LOL @ Slingshot wounds!

Jack, Jack, Jack. Just give it up man.

This isn't about being a Christian, it's about finding that next big area of Tort law. This just isn't it, 'ol buddy.

Hang it up.

Seems we were right. The idiot actually turned around and blasted the judge for his loss. The fool has absolutely no sense in the vacuum he calls a skull.

Note to Jack: Political suicide is NOT the way to win. Maybe you should walk away gracefully without turning around an launching your own 'childish' remarks just because you lost. Grow up, you wimp.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

BTW, the only instance of the word "violence" on the BBC's report is "School violence is part and parcel of the game". So very, very, Jack.

YAY! A great victory for gamers everywhere! Jack, I'm sorry, but you've done it to yourself. And this is coming from one who like most of us respects the legal profession and those in it. Jack's appearance on Destructoid (so far) has been really cool to read about; he seems like a fair, normal guy with somewhat skewed beliefs. I for one LOVE the concept of Bully and will be renting, if not buying, the game soon.

The Third District denied it.

Wow, denied by two courts in one day. That's gotta be a JT record. ;)

One wonders who exactly charged Mr. Thompson with fighting these battles? God?

What strikes me as most amusing here is the idea that Jack is accusing the judge of not doing his job, which is to uphold the law. This ignores the fact that Jack really has no such cause, since his job seems to be based on his own desire to take away the rights of parents to raise their own chidren.

If only he would put all of his effort into trying to educate parents on how they can stay informed and make their own decisions, maybe he might actually do some good.

Well, I saw this coming... yet I did nothing to stop it... why do I fear stopping Jack's absurd claims?

Don't blame you eh? Ok then we'll just blame the parents of the children how allowed them to play such a game. Sounds fair to me.

“When kids start showing up in ERs with slingshot wounds at the hands of Bully enthusiasts, don’t blame me.”

You are absoutley correct! We we wont. 'Cause it won't happen.

- Warren Lewis

That entire release is just more Laddy Jack silliness.

Take Two can choose who they do or do not give the game to. Jack doesn't have some mystical right to a copy. He needs either a court order (which he doesn't have), an invitation from Take Two (ditto) or $40 on Tuesday (if he doesn't have it, maybe his son can go buy it in a double-secret-reverse-anti-sting).

Also, the judge said , according to Jack that he wanted the game for "his full review of the game while it is being played, up to or more than 100 hours." Full review does not mean playing 100% of the game. It means seeing it until he believes he's seen enough. Apparently the judge felt, after a couple of hours, that he was satisfied.

Jack's "experts" can also not hope to provide relevant testimony. The effects of games in general are still debated and, with no first-hand knowledge, they can't possibly offer relevant testimony to Bully.

And when kids continue (since slingshots have been around for several thousand years) to show up at ERs with slingshot wounds, I will not blame Jack... unless he shot the kid with his giant slingshot.

This is great news. I'm just left wondering what it will take for this man to finally quit, or for the Florida bar to disbar him. He is wasting taxpayer dollars, wasting our time and encouraging parents to ignore their own responsibility and blame game developers for their parental shortcomings.

This whole thing is a joke. Jack Thompson is a joke. He is the entertainment world's equivalent of an ambulance chaser. He continues to lose lawsuits and make a fool of himself in the public forum.

What's wrong with you Jack? Don't you know when you have lost? Don't you realize that you are the butt of jokes, not only among gamers but even among lawyers?

Your tail is between your legs. Now it's time for you to go home.

What definition of "hearing" is JT referring to? He presented his evidence (his experts), Take Two presented theirs (a copy of the game for the judge to play with), and the judge rendered his verdict.

How is that a "non-hearing"?

"I am a Christian. I am not charged with winning these battles; I am charged with fighting them. I have done the right thing."

Redefine defeat as a victory doesn't change the fact that it was a defeat.

"The BBC itself says[...]"

Sorry, "itself"? What does the BBC have to do with it? And they actually said that violence was part and parcel of the game, which doesn't mean what you think it means.

"The judge never viewed the entire game, as he promised he would."

It cannot be done. You cannot view an entire game as you would a movie or read an entire book. Games react to the player. You have as much chance as hearing the entirety of a person's speech.

"The judge’s spiteful ‘production’ of the game after the game was released, on
‘Tuesday morning’ was childish."

He did what you asked^H^H^H^H^Hwhined about.

"He violated his own promise to watch the game to conclusion (he did not)."

Probably can't be done, and wouldn't want to be done either. How much worse could the game get? If you haven't killed anyone by the 20th hour of play, what makes you think it'd be a bloodbath by the 30th?

"He denied the TRO with absolutely no idea what a video game is and the expert testimony, which he did not want to hear, as to what the harm would be."

I've never read more than about three lines of the Bible. However, I know that it is a book and I know roughly what it is about, so I say I'm an expert on it. Dun work like that, boy. You do not know what a computer game is, Jack. You are not an expert on them.

"When kids start showing up in ERs with slingshot wounds at the hands of Bully enthusiasts, don’t blame me."

You seem to be doing a pretty good job of encouraging school violence, you know. You are the one flooding the media with talks of "Columbine simulators" how there are schoolyard violence training tools available for the PS2. Until you came along, people were simply vaguely aware that a game about fighting bullies was coming out. In this email you suggest that people should fire slingshots at each other.

Yes, you do. You talk about it and say it will happen. That's as much "encouragement" as the game Bully could do.

Above all though, you lost. You can't stop people from having fun - harmless fun, at that - but you just keep on trying. That's the funniest thing of all.

Lemmie get this straight...

Jack demands to have the game reviewed
Judge does so. 100 hours of the game must be played.
Jack makes request that there be a judgement after 4 hours.
Jack whines because it wasnt' tested enough.

Anyone else here's brain hurting right now....

Most fighting games are rated TEEN (Tekken, Naruto, DBZ, etc.) and feature brutal hand-to-hand and even weapon violence. Why have these games not resulted in children ending up in the ER because of hand-to-hand fighting wounds?

That slingshot comment is priceless- and another indicator of his mental illness.

just look at the link http://youfail.org/

Man, I go away for a few days' vacation, and I manage to miss all of the drama. This latest blow doesn't bode well for Jack's case here in Albuquerque (at least, in small part): a portion of his ginormous 69-page complaint rested on the premise that Rockstar's games violate public nuisance laws. So much for that argument.

I celebrated this minor but nonetheless great victory by joining the ECA and pre-ordering GameStop's special edition of Bully. Too bad I missed out on the Wii preorders this morning :(

I'm sorry, but has anyone noticed that these past few months he's been significantly more civil? He's all but quit using his normal hatred and venom and I'm just wondering why...

Just becuase this site cracks me up:

http://jackthompson.justgotowned.com/

So it's slingshot wounds now? Not bullet wounds?

*sigh* More and more this makes me happy I live in Canada. Can someone sue Jack for being a public nuisance, much like he tried to do to this game?

Some of you seem to be having trouble sorting through Hack Thompson's quotes. I have provided a summary translation below.

"Pollawunga chumble sprootz. Blahblah yabbadoobydoo eejeemera wonka pow! Jibble jor goonka whackamole."

I hope that clears up any confusion.

@ Scoops

Ah yes, "Gabe's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory"

About the ruling: Yep. Exactly what I predicted. I'm not at all surprised by his comments.

I absolutely agree about the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory (a classic). I'm just saying that even in these e-mails he hasn't been quite as vicious towards the Pixelantes and their Columbine Simulators and their Rock Music.

I'm just wondering if maybe I've been missing it or if I'm crazy or what.

Who the hell uses slingshots at schoolfights anymore?

Bitch, moan, bitch, moan, bitch moan. You can now add this to Jack's repetoire. Ever notice how upbeat Jack sounds when something goes his way, and how frustrated he sounds after a loss? Yeah, it's called reality.

I've only got six words for this... one more for the good guys.

@Dannah --

Please don't lump Jack in the the right wing. Speaking on behalf of The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy(tm), we don't want him.

Jack would be a great gamer. You could beat him time after time and he'd still like it, because it's about 'fighting the battles', not winning them ;p

“When kids start showing up in ERs with slingshot wounds at the hands of Bully enthusiasts, don’t blame me.”

Having personally survived a number of "slingshot wounds" with little more than an annoying welt, I would think this to be an unequivocal improvement over kids showing up in ERs with gunshot wounds. But then, maybe Jack just likes guns more than I do...

thompson loses and whines like a baby again. Can't say I'm surprised by it. You lost. Get over it. The only thing missing is the typical "The judge is in the pockets of Blank Rome and Takestar!! Wah Wah Wah!! Though if I'm reading between the lines right, I think he implied it.

"He is the entertainment world’s equivalent of an ambulance chaser."

That's what he does when he's not outlawing video games. I'm not kidding. You can't make that up.

All those complaints about the judge. Heh heh :: snort ::

Fact is, all those "complaints" would have been denied as existing if John Bruce had WON and the other side complained.

As to my prior complaints about how the judge acted on Wednesday... I still have concerns. They don't disappear simply because we won. Maybe he was biased on Wednesday. Maybe he wasn't. But what was described to us still has me suspicious.

Can John Bruce's argument that the judge didn't play the game all the way through be vaild? Fact is, according to how I understand it, the game was supposed to be played for around 100 hours. But, of course, if John Bruce had WON, he wouldn't be complaining now, would he?

Still, I wonder if this is business as usual in the FL legal system. Sometimes, it feels that way all over in the US.

Am I glad for the win? Yes. Am I concerned about the legal system? Yes.

Am I dumping loads all over the carpet laughing so hard about John Bruce and his temper tantrum PLUS the denial for appeal?

ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY!

nightwng2000
NW2K Software

Hey everybody...

I mean, cmon. Sling shots hurt!

:)

What a load of self righteous garbage. Hoah.

Anyone see the rant he sent Kotaku?

Considering how long winded and in-the-know it is, I doubt it is a fake letter....

Wow...


He really is a poor sport.

[...] As most have by now heard, Bully has been cleared for public consumption - much to the chagrin of our dear Jack Thompson. Poor old Jack, he’s such an earnest man. He isn’t evil, he’s just lost in a world he doesn’t understand. It’ll come as little surprise to hear that Jack has slammed the ruling, blaming the judge for breaking his own order to give Jack a proper hearing. In a letter to Game Politics he wrote: “The judge never viewed the entire game, as he promised he would. He took unsworn testimony from 2 Take-Two employees, with no right by me to cross-examine.” [...]

And once again Jack Thompson takes his ball and goes home, in a huff. No suprise there. But... I do have to say one thing.

Slingshot wounds? Is that the BEST you can come up with, Jack? Let me guess, next you're going after waterguns because they make people wet? Thank you, I needed a good laugh.

When someone comes into the hospital with a slingshot wound, I'll blame the person who shot them with the slingshot. I subscribe to this revolutionary idea that *people* are responsible for their choices, not video games.

What a crybaby. That's all that needs to be said.

He's acting like the game's Jason Voorhees in disguise.

From the bit on Kotaku
"That is an utter fabrication, and you are on notice"


...Is that Jack Thompson or Stephen Colbert?

Jack, Jack, your such a crybaby, and you give Christians a bad name with your personal attacks, and liable, and slander.

“…I am a Christian. I am not charged with winning these battles; I am charged with fighting them. I have done the right thing.”

A Christian Jack? but I thought you were the Lord Himself?

http://www.grumpygamer.biz/index.php/2006/09/23/jack_thompson_thinks_he_...

Just wondering, could this be used against Thompson for a harassment suit?

//Your tail is between your legs. Now it’s time for you to go home.//

What tail? Jack doesn't have a tail, Jack doesn't have any balls either!

*sigh* the really sad thing is, Jack won't quit because apparently he still has a couple of moronic brain cells left (someone get him drunk as hell and kill those last bits of stupidity already!), and still believes that Mario is satan, Doom caused Columbine, and that Bully will be responisble for crap that's already happening. What's next? PONG and Pac-man cause obsedity and ping-pong ball-related deaths? (oh s**t, I shouldn't have said anything, he's bound to read them and get ideas!!!)

"I am a Christian. I am not charged with winning these battles; I am charged with fighting them. I have done the right thing.”

Reminds me of a line from the TV show FireFly...."Nothing worse than a monster that thinks he's right with God."

Jack has lost once again. what surprises me more is that he decided to go after a T rated game. I would begin to write letters to him telling him that his points are frutless and benign but as he stated "IT isnt worth it." quite frankly Jack is not a threat to The gaming industry. Money is power and the gaming idustry has way more power than tiny little jack thompson. Look at it logicly. Jack thompson has himself as lawyer and a few advisors. The Gaming industry that he chalenged has Walmart(one of the largest companies in america.), ESA, Take Take Two, ESRB, Sony, Microsoft, and many more. each with more than half a dozen lawyers and countless advisors and experts at their desposal. what makes Jack think that he would win when the court is not even on his side.
Zeph

Being a Christian myself I have to say Mr. Thompson that you're missing the point. I believe there's a verse in the Gospel of John that says "They shall know us by our love." Screaming at people at calling the judge and all others involved in this case names and making false testimony about people is not acting in the loving manor of Christ.

There are ways other than legislation and lawsuits to change things that you feel are wrong. Talk to people, pray for people, pray for the nation as a whole. Act in the manor of Christ or in the words of St. Francis "At all times preach the Gospel; and when necessary, use words."

Look I'll admit to not liking what I've heard about this game. That being said I'll simply refrain from buying it. I've no desire to legislate or sue people because of things I happen to disagree with.

@ Bayushisan:

"Being a Christian myself I have to say Mr. Thompson that you’re missing the point. "

I have given thought to starting a project where I would list, in alphabetical order, verses or portions of the Bible that Jack has violated and example quotes showing him to be in violation.

Just to make the point of "Hey, WE'RE Christians... and that over there... that's not us."

Did I leave a comment on this? Thought I did. Well, maybe it was too out of line or something. Anyways. This is the whinyest I've ever heard Jack. I'm glad I never met him on XBL.

tackangel Says:
October 13th, 2006 at 6:05 pm
Who uses slingshots anymore?

I think Jack's concerned with who might start using slingshot, after getting the idea from Bully.

It's actually not an entirely invalid concern, if you think about it - they're pretty easy to make and can do a bit of damage if you fire the right thing. There is one important factor to consider, however - if someone goes to the lengths to build or procure a slingshot in order to injure someone at school, isn't it highly likely they'd just have found some other way to do it without getting their hands on a slingshot?

This is the thing I hate the most about people like Jack. I grew up in a small town. I used to make loads of slingshots using sticks and rubber gloves. Those things made chinks in rock walls and lodged stones deep into tree trunks. I've shot birds and inanimate objects with them, and in retrospect I'm aware that one of us could have been injured pretty easily.

Now, that was the eighties, Jack hadn't even heard about videogames, and the most violent thing you did in them was eat up ghosts.

Now he's claiming that any future injury caused by a slingshot by a game playing kid will be a result from having played Bully. Thank God he's lost pretty much all credibility he could have had by now, but those tactics are what makes stupid censorship laws prosper.

By the way? Who thinks this guy is actually a troll paid by the videogame lobby to make politicians who want sale restrictions look silly? Because I do.

@GoleM

I doubt he's being paid by the game industry to troll. I mean, you'd have to be paid pretty damned well to actually go through with what he does without believing in it.

After having recently seen Stephen Kings' 'It' I think I've found another case for JT.

For these who either have not seen the movie or seen it years ago here is the scene. The main characters are using cans as target practice with the intention of finally ridding themselves and the community of It the clown. Now sometime later in the movie (it is a 3 hour epic after all) we are shown, at various times, It the clown being struck in the head with streams of light pouring out.

Here are the ratings from imDB:

"Certification: Argentina:13 / Iceland:16 / Netherlands:12 (DVD rating) / Australia:M / Canada:PG / Finland:K-16 / Germany:16 / Singapore:PG / Spain:13 / Sweden:15 / UK:15 / USA:Unrated"

So that brings me to my point, why has Stephen King/The movie company/Lawrence D. Cohen(teleplay writer) or Tommy Lee Wallace, the director, not been brought to court for "..kids start showing up in ERs with slingshot wounds" at the hands of It fans? (Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bulger read section on 'Video violence')

Oh wow, using your religion as a back up excuse? That makes me sick. I, myself a Christian, and offended that his closed-minded ego allows him to bring his religion into this. He needs to go back to church.

From kotaku:
"In thirty years of practicing law, it is the oddest thing I have ever seen, and the most judicially arbitrary thing I have ever seen."

This is how the rest of us feel about you, Jack.

"Slingshot wounds" is classic. Really brilliant. Did he use the same argument to try to get Dennis The Menace: The Movie banned from theaters?

[...] Game Politics has some more information about Thompson’s hearing being denied. Technorati Tags: Bully, Jack Thompson, Rockstar, Violence and Video Games [...]

ARRRGH!!!

WHY DOES HE TRY TO KEEP SAYING THAT HIS VIEWS ARE THE VIEWS OF CHRISTIANS!!!! AHHHHHHH!!!!

So all I got to do to get free games on their release date is to sue them? Bring on Fallout 3, Half-Life 3, etc...

The Judge threw it out because Thompson fabricated yet another sensationalistic attempt to thwart *shock* legitimate expression. Kudos to this judge (whom like many) threw Thompson out on his ass for being an ass.

hahaha- u suck jack- looks like everyone is on ur side- gosh guys, we can be so cruel- nowonder we r bullies, cause we gotta deal with fags like you jack

@ Cyrax144

Your comment was awesome about that pig, Jack Thompson. He is a wuss, who can't accept defeat. Jack Thompson sucks and he's a bum and a worthless swine.