"Super Columbine Massacre RPG" Named to "10 Worst Games of All Time"

"Super Columbine Massacre RPG" Named to "10 Worst Games of All Time"

October 23, 2006
PC World magazine has named the controversial Super Columbine Massacre RPG to its list of The 10 Worst Games of All Time.

The non-commercial title was designed by Danny LeDonne, an aspiring filmmaker who attended high school in Colorado at the time of the Columbine shootings.

The furor over the game resurfaced in September when it was revealed that Kimveer Gill, a disturbed 25-year-old man who went on a shooting rampage at Montreal's Dawson College, had played Super Columbine Massacre.

Here's what the author of the piece, Emru Townsend, had to say:
"Do violent video games inspire horrific, violent acts in the real world? No one really knows for sure. Do horrific, violent acts in the real world inspire violent video games? Absolutely."

"Like the developers of JFK Reloaded, another re-creation of a historic murder, the creator of SCMRPG claimed lofty aims. On his Web site... Ledonne says the game "asks more of its audience than rudimentary button-pushing and map navigation; it implores introspection."

'...as a game, Super Columbine Massacre RPG is appalling.'

Other games named to the PC World list include:

  • E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial (Atari, 1982)

  • Custer's Revenge (Mystique, 1982)

  • Daikatana (Eidos Interactive, 2000)

  • Elf Bowling (NStorm, 2005)

Comments

Honestly, who would think you could go wrong with ELF bowling? I mean, there's elves, and there's bowling!
I have yet to play PoP:TWW, but I really don't see why that should be there. It's one thing to be an atrocious game, and a whole other thing to just have an atrocious /style/. It sounds to me like the game is still more or less great, just slathered in XTREME.

Ditto on Typing of the Dead by the way.
How could Typing of the Dead possibly be named, even if it were just a runner-up, in the Hall of Shame? It was a work of genius!
awww...i liked elf bowling
Ahhh, E.T....Such an awful, awful game. And I remember seen the clip of those cartridges being buried, too. Daikatana was also the butt of many many jokes, as well, as I recall.
"…or better yet, how about “The Ten Worst Reviews of All Time”? Sadly, that list cannot easily be compiled due to the thousands of idiotic reviews that are published each DAY. "

fix'd it for you
I love these 'Worst of X' lists, especially those in the games industry. I have an idea...how about covering the games that we should WANT to play instead of glorifying past failures.

...or better yet, how about "The Ten Worst Reviews of All Time"? Sadly, that list cannot easily be compiled due to the thousands of idiotic reviews that are published each year.
I love how a maginzine that deals mostly with PCs tries to judge console games. This is why I'm not a PC gamer.

And yes, dragging Warrior Within into this was a low blow. Is it really so evil to try to get a extremely niche game into the mainstream? Also, the article bitches on and on about the changes to the characters, but hardly even touches on how the gameplay stood up. Truth be told, I half-expected them to go into a rant against Halo 2 and Quake 4 as well.
Pathetic list. If I was the head honcho at a mag, I would instantly fire anyone who came up with that crap. Warrio Within on a worst 10 list? Daiktana, even? Pfft.
Look, asshat PC World guys - Super Columbine Massacre RPG dealt with a touchy subject. Granted. You don't have to like the idea of a video game that deals with it in the manner SCMRPG did. That's fine.

But to compare it to Daikatana, Etc. - games with poor gameplay, execution, programming, and the like - is just plain dumb.

In fact, SCRPG was actually fairly well put together, for a one-man operation. Look, I'm not going to defend the context, Danny LeDonne can defend his work all by himself.

But calling out a game you don't subjectively agree with from a contextual point of view in the same grouping as games that are technically and operationally -bad, shows you to be nothing more than an asshat. Look PC World can write all the "I hate Super Colombine Massacre RPG" columns it wants. Go for it! You don't like the subject matter? Awesome - you're an opinionatatd asshole! Welcome to the 300 Million Club!

But SCMRPG isn't one the "Worst Games" when looked at from a technical standpoint, like the others on the list. Not even close. And that's ignoring the painfully obvious commercial/homebrew disparity.
Was Super Columbine Massacre RPG one of the ten worst games of all time? No, but come on people, don't act like it was a good game. I'm sure somebody could make a powerful game about Columbine. I'm sure somebody could even make a funny game about Columbine. But that game was neither. It was alternately maudlin and glib, and myopic, and a poor execution of what could have been a clever idea. I can understand why it was on that list, however silly and inherently untrue such lists are. But it was a lousy game and a lousy work of art.
Rachel0: SCMRPG wasn't any worse than any other RPG Maker-made game. There are worse. I've seen KKK-glorifying Rm2k games, WW2-era Rm2k games which glorify the Nazi regime, porn-themed Rm2k games, and worse. I've also seen a lot of games which are worse on a purely technical level.

We're not saying it was a good game. We're saying that it has no place alongside a list of otherwise commercially-made games and that if non-commercial games were included there are a HELL of a lot worse that deserve to take the top spot here.
Everyone thinks it's so damn cool to call E.T. for atari one of the worst games ever. I think EGM started this crap a while back. I know they dumped a ton of copies into a landfill or something, but that's because the console was dying anyway. E.T. was no worse a game than countless other games on that system. In fact, I LIKED that game. It had the theme song from the movie and the sort of radar system for finding pieces of transponder or whatever was pretty innovative for the time. E.T. was NOT a bad game for its time. Anyone who claims it was the worst game of all time either didn't play it or read somewhere that it was awful or both. Anytime someone says that E.T. was bad they immediately lose credibility in my eyes. People are so quick to adopt a popular opinion as their own without any scrutiny whatsoever. Half the article is about how they made too many copies of E.T. They made too many copies. Even by today's standards 4 million copies of a game before its release is ludicrous. What does that have to do with the game? Nothing. I swear to god someone already wrote this article a couple years ago and they were the ones to start this E.T. bashing.
Obviously there are too many idiots in the world.

Even more obviously too many of them work at PC World.
I'm surprised they didn't list "Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing." Although I never played it, thank God, it was crucified by every reviewer out there. Gamespot even admitted that a review of 1.0 (abmysil), the lowest they have ever given, was way too generous.
Bleagh, I always hate these X Worst Games ever lists. So many of these people are focusing on the negative aspects and totally ignoring the context of the content they're lambasting.

1) ET: I won't comment on this one much. To be quite honest, ET wasn't all that bad when you compare it to some of the other dungheaps released on the Atari. It's only more famous because 4 million cartridges were produced and Atari bought the license for $25 million. I can see this one having a place on the Worst Marketing Decisions list, perhaps.

2) Super Columbine Massacre: In bad taste? Yeah. One of the worst games ever? That's pretty funny... As someone who's actually played more than his fair share of RPG Maker 2000 games, I can confidently state that there are games far more offensive AND far less well designed. Again, this is just noted because it's famous.

5) Pac-Man (Atari port): See the notes on ET. This one was pure marketing badness combined with a horrible rush job.

8) Marky Mark Make My Video: On the objective scale of badness, I'd rather see Criss Cross on this list than Mark Wahlburg. At least he helped bring us The Big Hit.

9) Warrior Within: This title has no place at all on this list. It might stand out as the worst of a trilogy but that's it. The game still features genre-defining platforming at it's peak and rich graphics. Yeah, the Prince has more 'tude than most people can stand but that was a marketing decision. Look at it this way... If we hadn't gotten this we might not have gotten a sequel at all... Sands of Time didn't sell all that well and the game might not have gotten any backing at all if the dev team didn't implement the changes the marketing team wanted.
PoP? That most certainly does not belong on that list o.O
In regards to Top 10 lists, they are always good for a laugh. I remember that Custer's Revenge game...heh. Priceless.
how can you put games like Warrior Within and Super Columbine and leave out Superman on the N64. I mean come on that game was so bad that playing it give you cancer of the eyeballs
PoP:WW and Typing of the Dead? WTF?
I've noticed there's been a growing trend of gaming websites coming up with Top 10 (or 20, or 50, 100, whatever) lists, and half of them are stupid as hell. I think they just run out of crap to write about after covering next-gen console shipping figures and blah blah.
Also, “Super Columbine Massacre RPG” wasn't even a commercial game! If you're gonna count non-commercial games, I'm sure there are a lot worse games out there, although I guess this one stood out in light of recent events.
This was a really dumb list. He says himself he tries to cram every possible definition of Worst Game Ever, including the Antiquated-Cultural-Practices view of violent games=bad!!!11!

Postal (runner-up list)? Prince of Persia? His criticisms to these and Super Colombine are entirely about content rather than gameplay. And while the content of games can affect the quality (Grim Fandango, Jet Set Radio), it (usually) doesn't define them. I don't think of the motivation or narrative concerning Tetris blocks, but the game isn't any less enjoyable.

SCMRPG was the title story of this and his write-up of it is exemplary: he talks about it's its content (God forbid art address touchy real-life issues!) and only in his last phrase says anything remotely related to gameplay with "As a game, [it] is appalling." Now the reader begs to know... why?

With aforementioned garbage like Big Rigs and Superman 64, small indy pet projects that promote thinking don't belong on the worst-games list of any publication. PC World lost any credibility here.
In Bad taste != Worst -Designed-. Its inclusion on a list of professional, commercially-produced video games is a ridiculous cheap shot, and if you're going to make "objectionable content" part of the decision then why aren't the various racist and pro-genocide games floating around on the internet anywhere on that list?
Hey! Grim Fandango was a classic! I still don't know why so much was dumped on that game. The humor was a little more dry than most LucasArts games, but it was still an enjoyable adventure.
Towing the Publishers' line = continued existence.
I'm guessiong Super Columbine Massacre RPG was the "flavor of the month" entry? also, I have to agree I don't know what PoP is doing there. Espically when the rest of the list is made up of obvious "given" titles like E.T and Daikatana.

In fact, let's ask the bigger question: Why'd they bother with this list in the first place? It's not a gaming mag, there's no information of note in it for those who'd care (We already knew ET and Atari Pacman sucked!) and the writer seems to have a confused point on top of it all. So why did they do this? Maybe they needed a quick filler article?
The list maker just can't decide whether worst means "buggiest", "most controversial", "most misogynistic", "most unfaithful to the series", "most over-hyped", "most pointless", "worst production values", "most obscure", "most likely to make over-sensitive political correctness freaks feel guilty/offended about things they didn't do/people they've never met"

That, in a nutshell, is why the list sucks.
If making games about columbine is politicaly intollerable,then making games about WW2 should be even worse.
Yea...I had E.T. and that horrible Pac Man port. My dad bought it when I was 4.
I kinda wish i still had it just to say I have 2 of the worst games ever.
My girlfriend has the Smurfs game still...

Th elist though isn't streamline, are they the worst games? Annoying? Buggy? They need a topic and need to stick with it.
God I love the elitists worst/best game lists Daikatana is a prefect example of a overhyped game that was just mediocre but still more fun and interesting than something like Quake 4 that was not over hyped and is not even mediocre.......
Let go threw the list since its obvious the reviewers didn't

ET: at a time when hafl the games were shoty to bad to worse...get over yourself..
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SCM RPG:why is a non retail game in this lsit? are they working for jacko trying to have all games baned by looking at the more questionable things that crawl up from the home brew community?
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Custer's Revenge:at least you had the balls to put a bad game on the list...
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Daikatana:you either bought the hype or never played the game...or both..
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Pac-Man :they went cheap on porting a cheap game for a cheap system...SHOCK....
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Smurf Rescue :haven't bother to try and play the wash of current sat morning cartoon to games or any of the 90's have we? they they run longer and deeper and the scars will last for a life time...
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Shaq Fu:mmm this or weapon lords at least shaq fu was playable...
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Make My Video :limited yes but not the worst FMV game if you liked Marky Mark, Kriss Kross, and C+C Music Factory,at that time *L* I do recall acouple more games in this vein they didn't make many more after that the whole pre fab vid editing thing is pretty bad as a grene.
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Prince of Persia: Warrior Within :a mere annoyance makes this one of the worst games of all time? WTF LOC:BLood Omen is 10X worst than this and yet no mention of it?? and their are games even worse that it....for christ sake put down your pen and walk away from the desk!
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Elf Bowling well what do you know out all the worest puzzle games you pick a bad one I am almost shocked

1 game dose not belong
5 games are not the worst of there grene to date
4 games so far are bad

its like you are afraid to get sued to call some of the more current games bad when they are in fact BAD Q4 being a prefect example its had poor sells was poorly thought out its sad when games like Q1-2,DUke3d and Blood still have the most comprehensive level design since they couldn't get lost in physics or graphics they have to focus on well laid out level design....
Ha ha, lists. These 'lists' are just mae to remind people of the truly big thing at the top and throw in some random things for the other places.

Like we needed a reminder that E.T. was a terrible game. We've all heard the stories; "made in a rush, temporally killed the industry, buried copies in desert." OF COURSE its going to be number one.

As stated before: Super Columbine Massacre shouldn't be on there. It wasn't commercial; it was made by some kid with RPG Maker. My British IM-freind who has the same program could make it.

PoP:WW shouldn't either. Okay. Sands of Time was a good game that was well recieved by critics and hardcore gamers; but it failed to make certain sale marks. So what do they do for the sequel? Obviously: makie it gorier, more violent, and replace those 'jiggling' sand creatures from SoT with skanly clad women! Play to the audience, my Mom always says. But putting it on there just because of a sudden jump from violent to ultra violent? No.

And on another note: why is PC World doing a list of bad games that are mostly consoles?

[Thank you obvious man. Back to your box now.]
Keaton2008
when reviewers base their ratings on the sales mark and "current" standards of what video games are they fail and become corporate propaganda machines.
The list is awkward, with no rhyme or reasoon why an item appears on the list (or the runner ups). It's also anti-climatic, since it shows the worst game first. While I won't comment on the games listed (as they'll already be ripped to shreds), the article could be much better through an attempt to make the list unique. For example, the game "J-Space for Windows" appeared in a "tip-book" that stated "The only tip for this pathetic game is don't buy it - at 4%, it got PC Format's lowest ever rating".

Also, I haven't played SRPG, but if it is "bad" in the sense that it is controversial, then it shouldn't be on the list since your scope will be too broad to be worthwhile. Likewise, games that are designed to be bad (e.g. Desert Bus) shouldn't be on the list - most likely, they are satirizing bad games and doing a very good job at it if they make it on such lists.
Big Rigs, worst game of all time. E.T. and elf bowling are pretty crappy too. I hate elf bowling. It reminds me of hell, which I no longer fear.
Isn't this exactly what the shooters wanted? They were video gaming, social outcasts. A legacy of killing innocent others, then some retard made a game out of it. Man Americans are stupid! They give fame to anyone who wants it, no matter the reason. What kind of message does this send to others? I hope Danny Ledonne, the maker of this game loses a point from heaven. He can then jam on crappy video games with all the other rejects in Hell.
Forgot to add to above

Elf bowling has brought joy and variety to christmas time. I still play tho mostly elf bowling 2.
Am I the only one who thinks it lame that he put PoP on there because it wasn't like the other games in the series? So in that respect super mario sunshine must be horrible. It isn't like the other Mario games is it? I demand it added to the list!!

BTW, sunshine was awesome...
Why does anybody really care? The game was some underground GBA-Graphics game. Hell. If you tried hard enough it could probably find a Flash-Player version of it. It isn't on any major systems or anything like that. So why do people complain about it? I get the subject matter is touchy because it's based on the deaths of several people. But does it really deserve this much coverage? On this sight, yes it does. But you see it on the news (Fox...Dateline and other places...) If the news hadn't shown it, I think it is pretty safe to say no one would have discovered it as much as it did.


Also, I agree it was a piece of crap. Gameplay wise.

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