Sunday Editorial Roundup: Bully No Columbine Simulator, Says S.F. Chronicle

Sunday Editorial Roundup: Bully No Columbine Simulator, Says S.F. Chronicle

October 29, 2006
The video game columnist for a major daily newspaper has weighed in on Bully in a positive way.

In a piece that lies somewhere between a review and a thoughtful op-ed, Peter Hartlaub writes in the San Francisco Chronicle:
If you believe the hype, the new video game Bully is the most corrupting thing to happen to teenagers since Elvis Presley gyrated his hips on "The Ed Sullivan Show..." In reality, the well-designed PlayStation 2 title from Rockstar Games is closer to a video game version of the movie "My Bodyguard," with fewer killings (none) than the typical episode of "Murder, She Wrote."

...while the hand-to-hand combat and dark humor more than earn the game a Teen rating (the approximate equivalent of a PG-13 movie), there's an underlying morality that is pervasive throughout the game... there was less sex talk during the eight hours that I played than the typical 22-minute episode of "The Golden Girls."

The furor that surrounded Bully in recent months highlights the stupidity of trying to ban a game that no one has actually seen. Without ever having played Bully, activist lawyer Jack Thompson labeled it "the violent Columbine simulator video game..."

Even if you agree that video games are too violent, focusing energy on Bully is like trying to raid a crack house and accidentally smashing in the door of the doughnut franchise across the street...

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Very good article. I'm glad somebody in the mainstream press isn't someone from an older generation that dislikes everything they didn't grow up with. Good find, who ever found the article.

BTW, this sounds like a good game. Does anybody know if Rockstar has plans to port it to the PC or Xbox yet?
@ anyone who hasn't read The Outsiders

Read it.
Note that the other stories the columnist is comparing Bully to (specifically the Breakfast Club and The Outsiders) have been controversial. There was sentiment at one time that The Breakfast Club was a bad influence because of the depiction of high-schoolers as foul-mouthed, possibly sexually active, and disrespectful of authority, and The Outsiders made the ALA's Top 100 Banned Books list.
"Without ever having played Bully, activist lawyer Jack Thompson labeled it “the violent Columbine simulator video game…”

Everytime I see something like this it reminds me of a line from the Butt-Out episode of South Park...."Sometimes it's okay to lie. Like when you know what's better for people more than they do."
...Murder She Wrote... The Golden Girls....

So old women should love Bully ;)
And they say the older generations can't play new Games : D

Now if only more people had this guys acceptence to ideas. There would be a lot less Jack Thompsons.

(Oh God, The thought of Cloning Jack Thompson came into my mind)
::Reads last paragraph::
No wonder powdered-sugered donuts are so good.
I just laughed at this one, in a good way. It makes total sense as to what the message here is.
And remember that Golden Girls was controversial when it came out as well. People didn't think old women should talk about sex or you know act like they were still alive.
Heh...right in Leland Yee's backyard!
Besides, if it *was* a Columbine sim, wouldn't the main character be wielding an M-16? Unfortunately I haven't seen any M-16s in footage of the game, so either that's in later levels (not likely) or it's just not true.
O_o I read the Outsiders in uhh... Eighth grade I think, might have been ninth. It's been awhile, I remember having to watch the movie too. I liked the book better, though I don't remember the movie being too bad either.

Wasn't the Catcher in the Rye also one of those "banned" books? Never actually read it in school but I ended up buying my own copy, I don't think I ever finished reading it.
@DarkTetsuya:

You first have to stab a cop while said cop is arresting a hooker. Then you have sex with said hooker, stab her, get her money and steal the cop car. This activates your Super Uber Trick skill that allows you to launch your car off a ramp at impossible speeds. You then land on a special cloud with a short (yet powerful) kid with spikey hair who will be more than happy to take you to the Mystic Mountains, however, you first have to beat him in a cloud race. When you win the race and arrive at the Mystic Mountains you will fight a zombie dragon who drops a slingshot he was carrying. Eventually you'll be able to save up enough gil to have the school's blacksmith upgrade the level 1 Slingshot to a level 8 M-16 and then finally a level 16 Rocket Launcher.

At least, that's what I read at Game Faqs.
@ PHOENIXZERO

Yes "The Catcher in the Rye" Was banned. Twice i believe because of its content and the use of the word "fuck" Only used once at the end.

Its nice to see people y'know...using that thing between their ears.
Wow, this is one of the most balanced , professional, and complete refutations of Mr. Thompson's horrendously stupid arguments I've ever seen printed. Way to go SanFran Chronicle!
and what I love about the descriptive terms is that ay older person reading it ...will understand entirely. More of this sort of thing please journos!
@ Blitz Fitness:

But don't you need a GameShark to access that content anyway? :P
@ Blitz

I'd so play that game. =D!!!

I thought the article was witty and had a lot to retort to on Jacko's "campaign" against evil.
[...] Xboxic is reporting that Bully is once again stirring up controversy, this time in the United Kingdom. Though Jack Thompson’s attempt at calling it a “Columbine Simulator” failed, it was forced to be called Canis Canem Edit (Latin for “Dog eat dog”) in the UK. [...]
Incidentally, "Bully" is indeed coming to the Xbox. However, due to the whole Red Ring of Death thing, I doubt Xbox users will be able to enjoy it very much. You're welcome to join us PS3 users whenever you come to your senses!
Re: Sunday Editorial Roundup: Bully No Columbine Simulator,

I forgot all about this game i saw it used in some video on youtube about not bullying and how bullying is bad. Anyway pretty boring i think compared to GTA and other games. And comparing the latest versions to the first ones that came out they've come a long way with graphics. They even have london escorts in some that look as real as can be.

Re: Sunday Editorial Roundup: Bully No Columbine Simulator,
I do think they need to re-think the age bracket this game is aimed at. Some of the london escorts in have young kids that play it.

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