
Apparently sparked by the PlayStation 3 launch, conservative pundit Bill O'Reilly took off after video game culture and digital technology generally in yesterday's
Radio Factor.
The controversial talk show host, who advertises his program as a "no spin zone" offered the following spin on gamers and much of their favorite gear:
American society is changing for the worse because of the machines... In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol... now you don't have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine...
Basically what you have is a large portion of the population, mostly younger people under the age of 45, who don’t deal with reality - ever. So they don’t know what day it is; they don’t know temperature it is; they don’t know what their neighbor looks like. They don’t know anything… because they are constantly diverted by a machine. Now what this does is it takes a person away from reality because they’ve created their own reality...
Here comes the PS3 rant:
The newest thing is the PlayStation 3. Now this is a machine that allows you to play games in hi-def and all this other stuff... It's the newest state of the art system from Sony.... It has a video game console, plays DVDs, connects you to the Internet, tells you how handsome you are. It’s six-hundred bucks. Now people lined up for hours to get this thing. Hours!
Next, O'Reilly recounts some of the various, well-publicized incidents that took place on PS3 lines around the country, before launching into:
The problem with this stuff is that some people can deal with it constructively... but other people get addicted to it, just like opium, just like drugs and alcohol… So this is a big, big problem. It’s going to change every single thing in this country.
At about this point, O'Reilly has Blois Olson of the National Institute on Media & the Family on as a guest. Olson talked about some issues regarding video game addiction, but was quite reasonable. As for O'Reilly? He thinks your video gaming may well doom you to a life of poverty:
The have-nots are growing. Why are they growing? Because the skill set that is necessary to earn a decent living is being deemphasized in a fantasy world of football games and shooting zombies and all that…. Now you have the "knows" and the "know-nots", because if you spend all your youth being prisoners of machines..... you're not going to know anything…. You’re gonna fail.
And, even though O'Reilly's pay site offers a podcast, the pundit rather curiously disses the iPod and seems to equate video gaming with national collapse:
I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod... If this is your primary focus in life - the machines... it’s going to have a staggeringly negative effect, all of this, for America... did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them? ...I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They're not playing the video games. They're killing real people over there.
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We should spend more time waving our countrie's flag and singing the national anthem while dancing the national jig, talking to people that are too busy to pay attention to us, writing letters to them and shivvering with glee as they get glanced over and ignored for lack of mindless praise.
In fact, all of our free time should be spent worshipping both government and god.
Oh and let's not forget the military, simply supporting our soldiers and staff isn't good enough, we must gather our collective psychic power and beam love and joy over to them through means of magic arse crystals.
While we're at it, we should also spend more time yelling over far seas at cave-dwelling warlords. Showing them our displeasure, as they shread our suggestive letters, and ignore us.
I am really very tried of your attempts to attack the New Generation. You attacked hip hop and now you attack video games. You are a right wing shock-jock and this is why.
Everyone knows what a Left wing shock-jock is... i.e. Howard Stern. But Bill are the opposite. Hip Hop is Billion dollar industry with Millions of listener's worldwide. Video games are no different. With the Playstation 3 and Nintendo's Wii release for this Christmas it is sure to be the top of everyone's list, young and old. The hype of this is, the biggest Computer and Gaming industry has seen, and this being the tech age and the release of the new windows that's pretty big. And you Bill taking it, (spin-doctoring if you will) and use it to wide your listen audience. Bill you are full of it. By Shocking the nation again and spinning the hype for own good you are a hypocrite. No different than Dennis Rodman, Madonna or Stern.
You clam that Video Games are the down fall of the youth. You mis-informed, dumb or really smart ( See last par.) Video Games are not like Pac Man anymore. In Video Games you must earn money, to stay competitive. Muti-task, you must monitor your heath, radar, team members, ammo and enemies. In Sports you can have full control of your favorite team. Trade players even draft players from your NCAA game to your Pro game. With games like Grand Theft Auto (GTA) Do your homework, as sells of GTA went up, crime alone the same lines of in the game went down. The US Army said that soldiers who grew up playing video games are better . And Video Games trains you to be a soldier by use tactics to win ( things you should be happy about unless you are a Kerr supporter). And with Online ability in all of the Next Gen systems the world is your neighbor. You are able the talk to people around the world and play with or against them. All of these skill can help you in your adult life.
BILL, I challenge you to air this Full email without edit to your TV show and Radio show!!! Because you may have a lot good points on many issues ( I to side mostly with the right wing ) but attacks on hip hop and video games because it's big news or business. Bill, Stop attacking peoples fun, entertainment, and hobbies. You sound like the people that attack Elvis for dancing on a stage. And Bill what do you do for a hobby, read books, RPG's are interactive books. Play tennis, the Wii makes you run around the room and swinging the controller like a racket to play. So next time you want to hit the court and its raining theirs an idea. and Bill you say boy-cot the thing you do not like. You said "I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod…" I hope apple and the rest of the tech industry will thing about boy-cotting you. And Finally the underlining problem with the youths is this... The Parents! The Parents are the only true problem with our children. Like computers garbage in garbage out. Parents and You should not take games away from children but spent time on there interest (Video Games, Sports, and etc.) and show them love and not a $699 babysitter.
Signed
Shawn Talbott
Husband and Father
middle class citizen
and 28 y/o Gamer 4 life
When they have options for normality, they'll explore it in a heart-beat. But until their have that option, they'll continue with the paths presented to them. I just wish Billy boy here would stop with the rhetoric which is both damaging and useless.
He isn't helping. Only reinforcing incorrect sterotypes and applying more negative pressure to the kids who need help (Hey kids! You're doomed to be failures forever. :D And you can't do anything about it! :D), IF they even need help in the first place.
Interesting that Ben grimm isn't replying to this at all.
Check it there : http://youtube.com/watch?v=yGFRi_ueq-M
O' Reilly's comment=lies, ignorance, half-truths, and fear. Nothing else to it. He's the one who can't handle the real world.
Did he actually support drug and alcohol abuse? Come on even the biggest moron on the planet wouldn't dream of suggesting people abuse controlled substances to "flee" the real world. Does he really think if all the gamers started coming home and, rather than playing Warcraft or FInal Fantasy 12, got drunk and/or high they would suddenly know thier neighbors and the temperature, if they already didn't? I've never even heard of a gamer running around in 20 degree weather naked, or assaulting an officer, but you can be sure a drunk or a stoner has done so and ended up on the evening news. They probably will do so again, too.
I'm not proud of the reaction to the PS3 launch. Whether they were parents, gamers, or violent rabid beasts, it was a shame. People don't act in such a manner. The recent troubles weren't so much an issue of a new game coming out, but really proof that ignorant, selfish, disrepectful, and violent people come in all shapes, sizes, creeds, and colors (see Bill O' Reilly). As many others have pointed out, similar incidents have occured with movies, games, and even Tickle Me Elmo. It's not gamer culture but a sad fact of human nature. If there was a food-shortage and only enough for 10% of the populace to eat you can bet there would be mass riots. I'd bet money Bill would be among them if he didn't already have a stock of his own. That's not a perfect example, I'll admit that. Still my point is: it's humans that did that, not the PS3. Not one PS3, or XBox360, or Tickle Me Elmo, killed, mugged, or raped anyone.
Hey Bill, do me a favor. Protect your kids. Don't protect me. I don't want you to.
Seriously, he has at least one of those a day. It's either about how evil this newfangled technological advance (that he obviously dosen't understand, but he dosen't need to because understanding things is unnessasary for a manly man), or how lame that new "chick flick" (like, you know, anything that isn't about WWII soldiers led by John Wayne kicking nazi ass) is, andhow he'd never watch that because he's a manly blah. Hell, he even finds a way to insert it into his daily ego stroking: "Well, those girly men at random local newspaper said something about me again. You know, if I wasen't such a manly man I'd point out that *my* show is way more popular than them. So there, neener neener, suck it you lame nerds lols!"
And that's why I finally stopped listening, well, that and I'd broken two radios...
And just so we're clear, I am NOT saying Dennis or Andrew are media whores ;)
Ya those were the good old days when real men bought drugs to get away from society!
"Now what this does is it takes a person away from reality because they’ve created their own reality…"
HAHAHAHA! I love this, a FOX News employee, and Bill O' Reily no less, accusing OTHER people of creating their own reality.
"Now you have the “knows” and the “know-nots”, because if you spend all your youth being prisoners of machines….. you’re not going to know anything…. You’re gonna fail."
No, the knows and the know-nots come from an American education system that has failed its children due to funding cuts. Your conservatives at work!
I'm a tad sick of this anti-nerd bias in this country. To sum it up, it's like "I hate you and think you are undesirable and unsociable and you deserve to be bashed or ignored you stupid nerd! Now make my fucking cell phone, video game, computer, maintain my computer and net connection, etc." Why don't we "geeks" get appreciated? Why is it that we have so many people in the news and in sitcom writing that feel it is OK to just bash the nerds anyways? And why the hell don't we have our own civil rights organization or group to defend us when we are bashed? It's about time somebody steps up for us and tells these people to knock it off. Can't make fun of black people, Hispanics, women, etc. because that would be sexist or racist, but bashing geeks seems to be perfectly OK. Why?
He acts like as if our focus is on machines and not being smart and succesful. Tell that to Will Wright, Warren Spector, Mark Rein, Ed Boon, John Tobias, and the throngs of other men and women who have had success with game business, design, art, and competition you damned old fart! Saying that we are unsocial, unsmart, and future unsuccessful people is just writing us off without giving us a chance to be such. If he really doesn't like those of us that are, why doesn't he work to do something about it to begin with instead of just turning into a talking head that just bitches about it?
And by the way Mr. O'Reilly, the whole anti-game and anti-geek bias in this country that you are very much a part of will be decimated. And OMG! Did I learn the word "decimated" in school? No! I learned it from a game of Warcraft II.'
But then again, the PS3 riots don't exactly help the gamer image with people robbing stores at gunpoint and people getting wild because of shortages. Does anyone smell another opportunity opened up for He Whose Name Shall Not Be Spoken to get his face in the spotlight and say "See! I told you games turn people violent!"?
/rant
1982 here we come!
This anti-game shit is getting dumb. I'm starting to think that Gamers should ruthlessly google-bomb and hack every Censorcrat site there is, while the game industry goes rambo with lawsuits.
Then again, maybe it's just making games more popular.
Gotcha. I as well think that the few who do take it too far need help. There is such a difference between escapism and gutless denial and refusal to deal with reality.
It is a good thing that the problem is brought out and should be addressed, but not by O'Reilly and other generally un-game educated people because their opinion is almost always automatically slanted in one direction before going on and voicing themselves. I'd rather someone goes on and talks about such issues in the gaming community who first sit on the fence in a neutral position and then form their opinions based on stuff they find out rather than go in with a slanted viewpoint.
O'Reilly is not one of those types to be neutral. You know fully well that he is going to take a right-wing conservative take on an issue and it sure as hell isn't a neutral one, like it should be. Because he panders to a certain crowd he is going to make his opinion of games a certain way to please them.
Anyone know of a news organization or network that has those with a more neutral view or don't they exist? It would work better than Bill here.
Pundits like O'Reilly make me laugh. I'm glad there are people like Colbert to show how absurd these vainglorious demagogues really are.
"I’m a tad sick of this anti-nerd bias in this country. [...] Why is it that we have so many people in the news and in sitcom writing that feel it is OK to just bash the nerds anyways? And why the hell don’t we have our own civil rights organization or group to defend us when we are bashed?"
Because we've got better things to do.
On a related note, perhaps we can agree that no one should reply to O'Reilly on these issues? He is notorious for being a troll, inciting people into e-mailing flames to him, which he gets to mock on the air. O'Reilly is garbage and not worth your time or mine.
Good point. It is better to ignore these people and watch it because they aren't really worth it, but at one point I think it goes a little too far. I find it disappointing that kind of thing is what I'm seen as.
Anyways, why the hell is Bill O'Reilly so popular anyways? Is it because he likes to rile people up over his words for shock value to get attention from those that agree with him or what?
Next door, on the left is the Detective Sgt. trying to become a Lt., his bitchass wife, and their little slut of a daughter who goes to the Catholic High School for girls.
On the right is the single mother with a retarded son. They're good people.
Across the street on the left is the furniture salesman, his wife the obsessive compulsive who is so bad she vacumes the driveway every day, and their son, the delinquent.
On the right is the guy who bought the house as an investment, lives in one side, and rents the other. He paid alot of money to buy his place from the state, and now he's suing them because of the lunatic who used to piss in the corner and light fires in the living room.
So, I know my neighbors, Bill. All too well.
Of course he can't carry on a conversation with us - Because we're more intelligent than him.
But, I mean, we don't know anything, right? dee-de-dee.
Bill O'Reilly:
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Dear Mr. O-Dumbass,
The vast majority of gamers play games as a means of simple stress relief, or casually for fun. Most of us do know our neighbors. Most of us do interact with the real world very well. Most of us are very normal people. There is a minority of gamers who do need some help dealing with the real world, but it is my guess that these people would be doing something aside from gaming if they didn't have a "machine" to plug into (probably obsessive reading of fantasy material, or D&D/other role playing games).
You are usually an intelligent person, so please do some research and THINK before talking about gamers in such a bigoted, knee-jerk way again. You are steriotyping a HUGE percentage of the population, and as a person in your position such an action is extremely irresponsable. Bringing in someone from NIMF without bringing in a gamer to dispute their claims was also quite short-sighted. Essentially, you formed your own opinions and brought in a "yes man" to confirm them. Congratulations, I hope you're happy with yourself.
I would like to attest, however, that the iPod is definitely beneficial to one's health...I'd never go to the gym without it. (24 Hour Fitness never changes their music and working in a nightclub, I've heard enough hip-hop to last me ten lifetimes.)
Well, technically, he's complaining about how video game addicition is at an all-time high.
He does make some good points (albeit he could've said them WAY better) about how the addicition is happening. True, not EVERY gamer does what he says, but there are a number who do. Sure, maybe not knowing the temperature off-hand isn't the most important thing in the world, but the point he's trying to get across is that sometimes you should just put the controller down, and go hang out in the sun and make sure you're actually living a life.
However, if I read right, that's what the other guy is saying, and this guy is just taking the whole issue to a new level.
You want to know a real problem with America: our over inflated egos which have stifled our progress as a nation. The ego masturbation that passes for informing television today is a big part of the problem.
I admit these pundits may have good points at times but I for one don’t feel like digging through a pound of feces (their egos) to find the one oz. of chocolate (their points) buried underneath.
What really gets me is the quote about the "computer geeks," I mean, there ARE the classic reclusive computer-type people out there, but by and large programmers, sys admins, game devs, etc etc etc that I've known and worked with throughout the years have been some of the smartest most informed, most interesting people I've ever met.
His rant actually made me feel like puking ;p
I've got three words for you, Billy O': Cabbage Patch Kids. What actually incites these behaviors is GREED. It isn't video game related at all.
Seriously. What a luddite.
Hell! Maybe we should give the terrorists some PS3s!
Seriously. I guess those people that camp out for Star Wars and James Bond are also addicted to movies like alcohol and drugs, and also created a reality for themselves? What do you say to that Bill?
First off, O'Reilly's claim to fame is his TV show - you know, the one on that 'machine' that everybody is diverted by, which they sit in front of to escape reality?
Speaking of escaping reality, isn't that what viewers and listeners of O'Reilly's shows do every day by watching and listening to him? I think that people who consider themselves 'informed' after listening to O'Reilly are a far greater threat than game consoles.
Amazing how so many people forget that just a few years ago, people referred to television as "that machine" that "degrades social skills." At least with video games, I'm not being yelled at by an ultra-right wing loudmouth every night.
And I love how in O'Reilly's world, everybody under the age of 45 has yet to experience reality. I'm guessing that makes most employees and execs at FOX and O'Reilly's radio show a bunch of dolts.
It's a good thing O'Reilly was able to come forward and speak the truth - I always had my suspicions that everybody under 45 was living in a delusional haze.
I agree with you completely. But just because the problem is on a small scales, does not mean that we should ignore it's existance. And that goes for anything that people delve into too much to escape reality. Whether it's gambling, sports, eating, exercising. All of these activities can pose problems for those who become dependent on them. Instead of getting automatically getting defensive, like a lot of the responses above, we need to say, "Hey, that's not all of us, but a small portion need help". We can't ignore it.
And escapism can be healthy, especailly if the alternate is unhealthy. But when people are ignorning their personal and professional obligations, no matter what the vice is, they need help. And that happens to be a big problem in video gaming.
Videogame addiction is no more shameful than gambling, eating, or a sports addiction. It's a problem that mah people have and should be taken seriously. Not ignored.
I see where your coming from. But although he did have some points, he still shows that there are more than enough people that will look at another group and ignore the vast majority of people who are OK in favor of those few that are not OK. This is just an example of saying we are all becoming a little too dependent on technology based on what some individuals are doing. These people who riot for a PS3 represent a portion of the game community, not all of it, but that doesn't seem to matter to Mr. O'Reilly. When a few from a certain group screw up, for some reason it represents everyone in that group for some stupid people. It is sad but unfortunately true.
However, it did really irritate me when he said that these games were like drugs and alcohol. These games are not at all like that. If they were, you couldn't play and then drive. They don't turn players into the living dead, like drugs do, and that's what I was complaining about a few posts ago. Some countries ban these innocent games as though they were drugs and alcohol. They don't have the damaging effects of drugs and alcohol, so the entire notion is ridiculous. That misconception is very dangerous to our games and I hope no one buys it. Then again, Bill O Reilly is no Jack Thompson, so I don't think we have to worry about him as much as about Jack Thompson. He doesn't write letters to judges and politicians trying to get games banned, but he represents the kind of thinking that is behind it and that's not good.
That is all.
He's done this before with other things and will do it again. That's how these people try to earn their living...
From his unusual views I would suggest that it is he who does not 'know what his neighbor looks like', when you consider how many hard-working American adults play video games today.
well, its good to know he knows what hes talking about.
"did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them?" What the hell are you talking about? You should leave the nerds alone O 'reilly, I've heard that one day they may get their revenge.
I guess he has a bad case of Technophobia.
So, when do we send a huge shipment of 360s to Iraq?
How about the 'computer geeks' who are running all the technology for his show. Maybe he should fire them all and run it himself...oh wait, he probably isn't smart enough to run it.
O RLY?
Because nobody uses drugs or alcohol anymore. Especially not teens/20-somethings. And drugs? They were CHEAP! Same with booze.
"So they don’t know what day it is; they don’t know temperature it is; they don’t know what their neighbor looks like."
It's Saturday, it's 38 degrees outside, the neighbor on my left is a middle aged, heavy black woman with 4 or 5 teenage kids and her husband. The neighbor on my right is a 30something thin, tallish black woman with lots of friends over all the time and 5 kids or so. The neighbor across the street is a 20 or 30 year old thin, short white woman who I've seen outside once... But maybe I'm just the statistical anomaly...
"It has a video game console, plays DVDs, connects you to the Internet, tells you how handsome you are. It’s six-hundred bucks. "
I bet Bill has something that costs at least 600 bucks, plays DVDs, connects you to the Internets, tells you how handsome you are and plays video games. (The PS3 tells you how handsome you are? Wha?)
"Now people lined up for hours to get this thing. Hours!"
People lined up to see Santa for hours. People lined up for hours to see (band). People lined up for hours to see Star Wars (and other movies)...
"because if you spend all your youth being prisoners of machines….. you’re not going to know anything…."
Oh THAT explains why nobody in my generation has a college degree or a job! It makes sense!
"the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games."
I thought they were playing video games?
I am a videogame addict. I am a rabid GTA fan. I DO know what today is.
(Saturday November 18, 2006)
I DO know who my neighbours are.
I KNOW quite a bit.
(The newest thing is the PlayStation 3. Now this is a machine that allows you to play games in hi-def and all this other stuff… It’s the newest state of the art system from Sony…. It has a video game console, plays DVDs, connects you to the Internet, tells you how handsome you are. It’s six-hundred bucks. Now people lined up for hours to get this thing. Hours!)
It doesnt tell how hansome you are STUPID!
Actually It plays PS3, PS2, and PSX games, DVD, and BLu-Ray. It's a friggin computer that plays videogames on your TV. And a good computer that does all that can cost more than a thousand dollars. This is actually cheaper. And people will line up for anything. New videogame consoles, Harry Potter, Movies,etc.
(The problem with this stuff is that some people can deal with it constructively… but other people get addicted to it, just like opium, just like drugs and alcohol… So this is a big, big problem. It’s going to change every single thing in this country.)
What, becuase you don't understand it?
(The have-nots are growing. Why are they growing? Because the skill set that is necessary to earn a decent living is being deemphasized in a fantasy world of football games and shooting zombies and all that…. Now you have the “knows” and the “know-nots”, because if you spend all your youth being prisoners of machines….. you’re not going to know anything…. You’re gonna fail.)
And you know this becuase...
(I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod… If this is your primary focus in life - the machines… it’s going to have a staggeringly negative effect, all of this, for America…)
Like what?
(did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them? …)
Have you really tried? What about the computer geeks that run your stupid show?
(I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games. They’re killing real people over there.)
So we should be killing people over here too? Just what are you saying here?
Just another old, out of touch asshole who is trying to talk about something that he doesen't know anything about.
Hey O'Reilly, STFU!
- Warren Lewis
You know why ? Actually, I have no problem having things in common with someone I strongly disagree with (or even despise). And on the opposite, I have no problem having serious points of disagreement with someone I love or deeply respect, although I can regret it. This is why I'm happy about the French culture minister's policy supporting video games, although this is almost the only thing I approve of him.
But in the case of O'Reilly... I'm glad that his rant on videogames, gamers, etc... confirms exactly what I think of him. And I really prefer to disagree with him on that subject.
(Warning: About to generalize based on personal observation)
Nono, it's the left wingers who believe that people, such as jihadists, only do bad things when forced to do so by the influence of evil, such as guns or video games. Thus, ban guns video games and people will become paragons of virtue.
The right wingers prefer to think that people are responsible for their own actions. Therefore, if they attack games, it's because they think we should quit with the fake stuff and start living a "real" life, full of responsible activity.
A) Google the words "Tickle Me Elmo". Slap in the face, isn't it?
B) You're using a machine to get your message out. Those same machines had people just like you in the past deliver the same message. How many slaps can you take?
C) I live in an apartment. I know all my neighbors except one. Scratch that, we became friends when he saw me come home with an EB Games bag. This is close to a TKO.
D) As a personal trainer I have to help clients through such issues as obesity, family illness histories, anorexia, depression, and all the social ills from being out of shape to all the social ills of being in shape. I also just found out my ex-girlfriend (whom I wanted to marry) is now pregnant with a guy who is unemployed. Don't tell me I don't deal with reality.
Games ain’t the catalyst to the madness. It’s greed.
Andrew
You know it's going to happen.
I thought it was because Bush and co. was laying thier fiddles on the white house roof while the corperations ran off with the jobs....or are you saying you have to go to collage 3 time and have 3 or 5 degress and BAs in this and that jsut to be middle class....mmmmm
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"American society is changing for the worse because of the machines…"
All societies grow and change over time.......
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""I don’t own an iPod. I would never wear an iPod… If this is your primary focus in life - the machines… it’s going to have a staggeringly negative effect, all of this, for America… did you ever talk to these computer geeks? I mean, can you carry on a conversation with them? …I really fear for the United States because, believe me, the jihadists? They’re not playing the video games. They’re killing real people over there.""
So what your saying is you would be more happy if teens and kids were on drugs and killing each other daily??.....then of corse you would say
*I am sitting here,watching them....playing )these games((takeing drugs and killing each other)...and I cant do a thing to stop it*
sad sad little man O'rilye...sad ....you are now Rush Jr....
-- No no, what I meant was, I thought the jihadists were coming out with various video games (I don't remember the titles off the top of my head...) (and the 9-11-01 hijackers, I thought, trained a little on Flight Simulator)
....He has obviously never bothered. Maybe it's because 'Computer Geeks' have access to things he can't understand, like, possibly, the fact there's such a thing as the 'rest of the world'?
Is it the other persons fault for knowing more than you Bill?
There are people out there that specify with the field of their choice. Business men like to talk about business, while artists like to discuss things about art. It should be a no-brainer that Computer "geeks" enjoy talking about computers. The field is so wide-spread that it extends the arms to more than one field to know (Computer hardware, software, programing, etc) so it's no surprise that gamer's would discuss things on gaming. It's the whole human psyche of likes and dislikes that make unique beings co-exist with others that do the very same.
...some may call it friendship, or maybe even love.
Going off topic for a second I just want to say some republican conservatives are alright, the party has just been hijacked by the religious right. Most of them are focused on what conservatives were supposed to do, which is balance the budget and help the country economically. Now I'm an independant but I just wanted to get the word out that Bill O Reilly doesn't represent all of republican conservatives, but he does appeal to an awful lot of human messes.
All in all Bill O' Reilly= Irrelevant Douche
As a society we have become incredibly reliant upon machines for everything. I'm not saying that's good or bad but it does present certain problems that we've never had before.
Lets look at the recent mutli-day lines and some of the ensuing violence that broke out with the release of the PS3 for example. It IS a little nuts to wait outside a store for three or more days just so you can get a PS3 before someone else. Its even more nuts to shoot someone over it. These can be seen as an example of spme people thinking that a game system has more importance than a human life. I mean what employer is going to be ok with you taking off that many days of work just so you can buy a game system?
There's also the problem of addiction. There are people out there who become so enamored of a game, MMO, or similair product that they lose their sense of self. I don't know how common it is, but it can happen and we need to acknowledge it.
I'm a traditionalist myself, anyone here who knows me will know that about me. I can see where Mr. O'Riely is coming from, though I may not agree with all of it. Yelling and cursing him out solves nothing. The matter needs to be approached without condescention and a mind open to the debate. Otherwise we're just handing the anti-game crowd a victory before the fight's even won.
This is a good thing, you can not get arrested for drving after 6 hours of heavy video game playing (unless it causes you to be sleepy), a video game addiciton doesn't support drug dealers, video games don't need to be smuggled into this country. With games you can turn the game off and go back to the real world in a flash you cannot become sober or not high in an instant. Also a heavy addict would probably spend more money on drugs than a hardcore gamer.
Basically what you have is a large portion of the population, mostly younger people under the age of 45, who don’t deal with reality - ever. So they don’t know what day it is; they don’t know temperature it is; they don’t know what their neighbor looks like. They don’t know anything… because they are constantly diverted by a machine.
So basically anyone under the age of 45 is stupid and can't tell the difference between reality and fiction? Keep talking O'Reily you're doing a great job of making people think you're senile.
Now what this does is it takes a person away from reality because they’ve created their own reality…
The same thing could be said about every novel ever made well actually it can't because with novels you go into a reality someone has created for you, instead of having to create one as you said.
The newest thing is the PlayStation 3. Now this is a machine that allows you to play games in hi-def and all this other stuff… It’s the newest state of the art system from Sony…. It has a video game console, plays DVDs, connects you to the Internet, tells you how handsome you are. It’s six-hundred bucks. Now people lined up for hours to get this thing. Hours!
Days would be a lot more accurate, and I do believe people camped out for star wars movies.
The problem with this stuff is that some people can deal with it constructively… but other people get addicted to it, just like opium, just like drugs and alcohol… So this is a big, big problem. It’s going to change every single thing in this country.
People get addicted to a bunch of stuff,as stated before people can get addicted to golf. 'It's going to change everything in the country' is an exxageration at best.
The have-nots are growing. Why are they growing? Because the skill set that is necessary to earn a decent living is being deemphasized in a fantasy world of football games and shooting zombies and all that…. Now you have the “knows” and the “know-nots”, because if you spend all your youth being prisoners of machines….. you’re not going to know anything…. You’re gonna fail.
Please show me an example of a youth who spends every single second playing games. You can;t then be quiet. Oh and calling gamers know-nots shows just how senile you are (especially when you use the term know-nots).
Bill keeps talking about being prisoner of machines and not understandingh reality because of machines. I think he's been watching too many Terminator movies.
-Control freak
-The type of guy who would burn new technology and call it 'witchcraft'
-That guy from the TGI Friday's commercial (the one with the guy using that old 70's cell phone)
-Trying to be the new Jack.
-But is more like the new Joseph McCarthy.
"Trouble coming everyday."
You know, if Bill would have used the anonimity of the internet a few years back, maybe he wouldn't have had to pay off that one woman that he tried to force into dirty conversations.
O'RLY's a dick about 90% of the time, but there is an occasional moment where he says something that's either right or agreeable with. If I had a choice as to who to send to the moon without any oxygen or a space suit between him and Nancy Grace, it'd be a hard choice though I think I'd favor ol'Tweety.
I ask: O RLY?
And he responds: YA RLY!
I am shocked: NO WAI!
Ironic isn't it that O'Reilly makes his living by diverting people's attention with a machine that lets them escape from reality?
Using drugs and alcohol to escape reality is a better choice than video games? He didn't come right out and say it, but he certainly implied it.
Anyways, I'm kind of sick of this mindless fear of technological and cultural advancement.
I know some kids that put their livelihoods (jobs) and educations (college) at risk just to get in line for a Playstation. Skipping out on work or school for a videogame is ridiculous, no matter how you slice it. Let's stop ignoring the fact that we all know people like this. Sure, O'Reilly was a bit extreme with his rant, but he has a point to a certain extent.
We all know some of those kids that spend way too much time on games, MMOs, Live Action RPGs, or just pen and paper RPGs. Some of those kids can't have normal conversations outside of games, and we all know this to be true. We should acknowledge this fact and say, while they are some people like that, it's not the complete truth. I, for one, had a roommate who did nothing but play World of Warcraft. He played, all night, every night. When I was getting up to go to class, he was going to bed because he had just played 13 hours straight. Needless to say, it wasn't long before he flunked out. And I know several people who follow this pattern. We have to stop acting like this isn't true.
Also, on the IPOD. I met a guy who said he didn't feel like a real college student until he had one. Come on. That's ridiculous. People are getting too concerned with technology and letting it define who they are. It's a problem that we have to deal with. Get over it. Sure O'Reilly says a lot of nonsense, but he made some valid points in his argument.
Alas, may I direct you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_addiction.
I swear, Bill O'Reilly has to be one of the stupidest humans alive today. He thinks WE have social issues and aare unaware of our surroundings, he should take a look in the mirror. RRRGGH! It makes me so angry. I take this as a personal insult.
"Can you carry on a conversation with them?"
Yep, yep I can. I often-times do, since talking to people like Bill O'Reilly is like debating with a log...except that's probably insulting the logs of the world.
In reference to supposed game addiction related deaths: pics or it didn't happen.
And the irony? He's arguing about it. On the Internet. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure computers qualify under the definition of machines. Along with the fact everything we own is manufactured with the aid of machines.
Well, I'm willing to bet that you are a damn troll. If you can come up with some sufficient evidence, I think the GP community would be most grateful, as the link you gave LEADS TO NOTHING. It just leads to an article that doesn't exist on the WP page.
same for movies same for books same for date....anything can give you that rush ...so should we never leave our caves or think so we will never be flustered??
He says things to say things, and to get a rise out of people, which is what he's done.
Unless I've missed something and completely overestimated his intelligence.
...Taking Bill O'Reilly at face value leaves me with a cheapened feeling.
Wake up Bill! TV is color now, there are no real cowboys, and you're still just a blowhard sitting in your little media room in the world YOU created by surrounding yourself with Reublican yes-men.
Get off my ass about my hobbies and grow some 'nads.
There is a saying "don't dis' it until you have tried it" I seriously doubt that O'Reilly has played a single game in his life with an open mind. And people vote for bush..
Why are people like O'Reilly on TV?
Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_addiction
I suppose commenting gives a warm fuzzy feeling to those posting.
For me, it is a cheap thrill. In fact... so thrilling I think I just wet myself.
If I had a tail it would be wagging wildly.
Gotta' remember that O'Reilly is merely an entertainer. The lad has to attract and keep enough viewers so that advertising revenues will continue. O'Reilly is wealthier than the majority of Americans and ALL of us add to his substantial wealth, even if we do not watch his TV show or listen to his radio blabbering.
Advertising costs are passed along in the costs of goods and services. Doesn't that make you feel so warm and fuzzy!!!! All of us are assisting the already-wealthy to become richer vis those ad costs passed along.
For those performing the tasks that make the USA function on a daily basis your wages have been stagnating or falling for years while the already-wealthy have seen a HUGE increase in their wealth.
But, things are as they should be!!!! The elite class is doing fine and continue to spit in the faces of the masses!!!!
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If anyone wants to read my two cents.
Very amusing. Its good to see that free speech is alive and well.
"The factual accuracy of this article or section is disputed.
Please see the relevant discussion on the talk page."
This suggests to me that the information isn't neccesarly of the unbiased sort which wikipedia strives for. That combined with the warning about neutrality of the article suggests that the article is less then credible.
Oh, and thanks for not calling me a troll. :)
Magic? Crystals? Sounds like you've been playing that Finally Fantasies game thing. That's just the sort of game the terrorists want us playing. While they're there shooting bombs and dropping bullets on us, you're going to be there trying to summon Ifrit, and then we'll all be dead because he's not real.
You people make me sick.
I just use mine to listen to beautiful music, from pop to classics, plus some family pix and the odd video.
The man is really very odd.
Tell one of your underpaid handlers to look up the definition of "hypocrite" when you get a moment, Bill, and have them explain it in simple words for you.
Senator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska)
I can't wait until these old, ultra-conservative types are gone for good. Let them shrivel up, and be miserable without spreading their misery to everyone else.
I really dislike Conservative Republicans. *They* are what is wrong with this country. Selfish bastards!
A rat sound like miserable O'Reillys rebrith.
OK, it's my fault. I thought you were just trolling as you stated something with a link that was off making me think it was an opinion. I was just too busy at the time to notice that it had a period in it. I was doing something else at that moment and I was kind of thrown off. Sorry for that. :)
I fully well know that gaming can be an addiction, but as Ashla said the article may be slanted and non-neutral which is common to some Wikipedia pages making them either biased or advertising (take it from an on and off amateur editor there), so I'm not so sure of the accuracy of info there.
"I am an avid gamer, and I do believe that gaming is an addiction. Activities like video gaming can put you on a dopamine high, and once you pop, you can’t stop. And neither does the fun. Well done, Bill."
In a matter of semantics, you said you "believe that gaming IS an addiction" when considering the sentence afterwards say it "CAN put you on a dopamine high", the first should be "gaming CAN BE an addiction" but not necessarily IS. Sorry for the nitpicking there. ;)
But yes, I do agree that it can be an addiction as I have read stories of other people doing things after playing games like MMOs or over a game system such as the PS3 riots prove.
Also, the fact that a dopamine high can cause people to come back for more and not be able to stop is true (although I'm not a science expert so I wouldn't know so I'll just use the WP info here), but then again the effects of anything with the brain ranges from person to person as you probably already know.
A person could walk away from a game addiction feeling withdrawal symptoms and anger, while other addicts might not feel or do anything different from what they normally do if they didn't have the addiction. It greatly depends on other factors like the environment and way they grew up and were raised that would factor in as well. So the term "game addiction" and it's definition and effects is up for question depending on who you ask. Science can't explain everything
But, I think that these people who can't talk to anyone normally or riot over a PS3 are game addicts that took it way too far in a direction of depending on a machine, whichever they chose, to be their source of satisfaction, social life, and the thing they wanted, choosing either anti-social behaivor or violence which isn't healthy. People prone to stuff like this over A DAMN MACHINE need help badly either medically, physically and/or psychologically.
Just my two cents and sorry for the long rant. These are just my two cents and I may be wrong considering those people who may not feel effects from game addiction may not have a game addiction but game obsession.
"You aren't fixing anything Bill. You are not doing anyone but yourself a service."
"Be a doer not a nagger."
in bill's words - "They don’t know anything… because they are constantly diverted by a machine". i may be a hardcore gamer but I do know that the machine im typing this post on gives me to access any news source from anywhere in the world in an instant, giving me access to 100000 times more independent information than any TV channel would ever provide and, more importantly, without a slanted,distorted or bias to it.
i stopped watching tv months ago and rarely read a newspaper and you know something? the world is a whole lot different when you find your own news. people dont need a bill o'RLY or a bill fu&king anyone to tell them the news while chucking in their (or their network's) two cents in on top.
It's time for a good, ol'fashioned Podcast burning. Light'em up!
http://warriorvisions.blogspot.com/2006/11/burn-podcast-to-show-bill-you...
If I met him socially, I would bawl him out in a VERY loud voice for being such a jug-headed, wonky-eared, bullshit-sprewin' BULLY!
He's my generation's stereotypical "cranky old fart". Feel free to disregard any claims he makes to be in a no-spin zone. The man is constantly spinning, which is what makes him so god-damned dizzy.
In reality, Bill's propaganda/ideaolgy has completed removed him from 'the real world'. He sees the world through these crazy filters that distorts everything toward the 'demento' spectrum. He is not capable of making a rational decision and lives in his own 'bubble' world where video gamers will be crushed by the amassing Jihadist army...he probably feels quite at peace as no doubt Jesus will fly down on a cloud and pick him up before things get too uncomfortable.
i mean, it sounds like a plug for the damn thing!?
OH SHIT GUYS, I'M A GAMER WITH FRIENDS AND SKILLS HANDY FOR AN OCCUPATION! HOW COULD THIS BE?
It really is as simple as that.
*goes to take drugs and drink booze*
But now a lot of people can read his rants, because of these machines!
Nobody would hear him if these machines was not here!
So Billy boy, you should send a big 'thank you' to the machines and the tubes on the internet! :)
I'm much more tempted to get a PS3 now that I know it will tell me I am handsome!! Thanks Bill!
I vote this bill guy gets the first bio implant which makes the carrier have uncontrollable hic-coughs for the rest of their dreary ignorant lives.
*hic kill me *hic kill me *hic kill me *hic kill me *hic kill me *hic kill me
*8P
has no one noticed the obvious .... what's Bill O’Reilly doing with a paysite that contains podcasts if he's totally against ipods and technology?
or does he use this tool to reach out to the "know nots" ? lol
its actually scary the amount of people in real power in both the USA and UK who are so out of touch like this.
i am from the UK. when i was younger i was in a car wreck with a friend. i had to give evidence in court to help my friend (as he was being charged with careless driving).
at one point giving evidence, the Judge asked me to estimate the distance that the other car was behind us when we stopped.
I answered with "about 200 metres".
"In feet!" demanded the judge!
"i'm sorry, i was only taught the metric system at school, i wouldnt be able to estimate accurately in inches" i replied
The judge then repeated his question and demand for it in inches, to which i replied something like ...
"You are a JUDGE, YOU should know yourself what the measurement is in both metres and inches, i dont HAVE to know"
(which was followed by a few chuckles from around the court).
It's people like this that need booted OUT of the system to make room for new and forward thinkers. The world has changed so much in the time that they have had their positions that i think it just scares them and they lash out like that.
He needs to look deeper at why people are checking out to drugs, alcohol, tv, and games in the first place - the society and economic social order itself.
People socialize less or socialize around virtual environments with many people they will most likely never meet.
Although he misses the positives: Isolated people who have trouble socializing without machines get some form of socialization at least esp if they live in communities far away from urban centers..
First Rupert Murdoch's disgusting deal with O.J. Simpson (Hey President Bush! What about a presidential pardon for anyone who whacks OJ? BAM BAM BAM ;-)
Second, this!
First Rupert Murdoch's disgusting deal with O.J. Simpson (Hey President Bush! What about a presidential pardon for anyone who whacks OJ? ;-)
Second, this!
You tell 'em.
People 45 and over are likely having a mid-life crisis and running out to buy a new car to escape from the reality of aging.
So much for O'Reilly's war on escapism there..
As for blaming technology for all of scieities problems.. Well, now he's just sounding like a coot. "Dern kids playin' their Vid'ja games and spending time doing things!.. GET OFF MY LAWN!" That's about the impression that I get from him.
Can't he just go back to blaming Christmas for all the world's problems? That was much more entertaining.
What's next -- moving pictures beamed into our houses?
Land o' Goshen!
Think more people probably escaped into a good book!! and personally think better to go into a game rather then put myself and others at risk via the use of drugs or alchohol.
The other great fantasy escape has been the use of religion and often this has and continues in some places to be compusory. At least with IPods you are not subject to being a public burning, stoning etc (whatever is the specific religions chosen method of explaining reality) if you do not agree with that faith. Would require a whole extension of corporate law ;-)
Who gives two shits about what he says???
Why am I even typing this???
Fuck him and his opinion.
As for throwing the iPod into this mix, that just goes to show how out-of-touch Bill is with the rest of the world. Yes, many more people are listening to music while doing pretty much everything, but that not only keeps people upbeat and motivated, it is also a great conversation starter for people who otherwise would never speak to another stranger.
And as for Bill's comment about people under the age of 45 who "don’t deal with reality - ever," he can go fuck himself. Not that we dont know this already, but he is a god-damn hipocrite!
Why dont you take a good look in the mirror and at all your right-wing conservative nuts out there who refuse to acknowledge gay rights, a woman's right to choose, or the scientifically proven fact of evolution! You all share a single brain and are completely unable to come up with a single independent thought or decision.
Fuck You Bill O'Reilly!
The internet should be turned off forever.
I'm busy working toward this right now.
Pooter
P.S. I think it’s absurd to compare video game addiction to drug addiction? I don’t think the prisons are over run with Video Game addicts?
Besides, O'Reilly is one of the biggest pieces of shit Americans can call their own. Besides Gee-dubya anyway!
Maybe his rant is all about the fact he is losing the competition with other forms of news and entertainment. Gotta be tough on him and his advertisers.
Nevertheless, there are some parallels between video games and milder drugs like alcohol and marijuana (it's going a little overboard to bring opium into the mix). These are potentially addictive drugs, and video games may also be addictive to certain personality types, and can cause problems not unlike those seen in drug addiction.
I've seen some of these symptoms in some children (irrational craving, inability to focus on other tasks), and it is a pretty scary situation.
Remember, even an idiot like Bill can stumble over the truth once in a while.
Ummm...so playing video games in the desolation of your house is somehow worse than drugs, which generally leads to robberies to support the expensive habit?
Even if his gross generalizations were correct, I'd say not knowing your neighbors is far better than robbing them to support a drug habit. What is O'Reilly smoking?
this guy couldnt be any more wrong, i know what my neighbors look like, i have an EE degree, so i'm not a "know-not" and i've been "addicted" to video games since i could remember (atari 2600, the good ol' days)
and he fails to mention WoW, obviously ignorant ranting, now WoW's something to worry about... yeah, you know who you are!
So i should put down my joystick, keyboard, mouse, controller, WOW addiction and grab me a gun and go kill real people.
Shit i know who my neighbors are and i stay inside playing video games cause i dont like em. I should shoot them good thing i have my video games or i might go crazy lol..
I'd write more but I need to go cash my unemployment check to buy a new controller for my PS3. If I could have found my Cloak of Great Rewards earlier, I wouldn't be here now, but rather adventuring through the Mighty Woods of Highway 101 to the Magnificent Bank in Lost Dreams City.
If haters had a king, this is him, and that Anne Coulter bitch would be his queen.
I am by no means a right winger or left winger but I am smart enough to see the problem is on both sides. The problem is not the party a politician is affiliated with but the industries they are affiliated with.
While I think Bill O has a right to his opinion I too have a right to mine. And my opinion is that Bill O is an idiot.
Funny. I guess he's never heard of Special Force
this guy is a fucking retard (look at his eye). He obviously doesn't play videogames because (according to him) he's succesful. And he probably has NEVER seen a list of most gamers REPORT CARDS.
*pokes his eye with a stick*
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this guy is a fucking retard (look at his eye). He obviously doesn't play videogames because (according to him) he's succesful. And he probably has NEVER seen a list of most gamers REPORT CARDS.
*pokes his eye with a stick*
I'll bet O'Reilly gets paid shitloads to mention products in his rants. These guys are one step ahead of you! Cunning as a shithouse rats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_for_comment_affair
I think before making his statement, this cartoon character forgot to take his pills!!!!
Thus, settle down, Bill, take another pill!!!
Oh, and don't let gamers pay you a visit in your house... mad house.. sick mental case!!!!
Anyway.... I spent my youth playing computer games on my PC. Now I earn $800 a day looking after them for people like O'Reilly... all on a high school education. Most geeks I know earn a decent living doing geeky things... non-geeks are the ones finding it hard to make it in today's "real" world.
The problem with this stuff is that some people can deal with it constructively… but other people get addicted to it, just like opium, just like drugs and alcohol… So this is a big, big problem. It’s going to change every single thing in this country."
You know what? Bill is 100% right. Now please excuse me while I sell my Xbox, then go get addicted to opium.
In Vancouver we have binners using these IPODS so when they slam garbage bin tops in the middle of night, the sound only bothers residents, not them. Great.
We also have pedestians walking around like zombies into traffic without even bothering to look just expecting everyone to stop for them. They are as Bill says disconnected. People are wired with cell phones, IPODS, and palm pilots. You're in the middle of a conversation and they keep interrupting. The last meeting I had with someone after the third interruption by gagets I told him either turn them off and converse or not.
He'd prefer the masses to be diverted by Bill O'Reilly instead of other inhuman machines.
Waiting in lines for hours for a new console may seem weird to Bill, but that's just his opinion. If I wanted something bad enough I would wait in line for hours, too. The PS3 just isn't one of those things, especially at the price it is now. I'm willing to wait for the prices and the bugs to die down before I make a step towards the cash register.
He holds no real power, unless you grant it to him. He won't stop you from gaming, buying a PS3, saying "Happy Holidays", or anything else, for that matter. I can't think of a single law, regulation, or rule put in place as a result of his ranting. Again, ignore him. He's a troll with a TV show. And not a very good troll, at that.
Practice what you preach, sir. You're like the people who thought Elvis was the devil and that comics destroyed the brains of children, and all along, you're doing reprehensible things yourself.
Why not focus on the true problems within our country, like rampant poverty and the second highest infant mortality rate of industrialized nations, behind only Latvia.
I know why; you're a bigot, a fool and a hypocrite.
Geeks being anti-social? My Space.
Let's just revel in the irony of this moron's rant generating communication between his "anti social geeks" accross the world, and point out that Skills in these destracting machines are getting to be required if you want to do anything besides flip burgers or make an a$$ of yourself nationally by rebuking them, and further more, most of our nations hero's going over-sea's to combat terrorists, choose to unwind after after a long day of protecting his right to idiotic speach by playing video games
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NEXTEL i60c -- 50UDS
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02 X3 ......... $120
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HEY BILL ITS CALLED FREE SPEECH YOU FUCKING IDIOT. YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT JUST LIKE I'M DOING NOW. IF I WANTED TO CALL IN AND SAY YOU ARE A FUCKING DIPSHIT I WOULD HAVE THAT RIGHT. HAVE A NICE AND SHAMEFUL LIFE AND I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL.
Signed,
A loyal fan.
And also Bill dude you might want to take care of that rash looks preety bad!!!!!!!!!
2-6 hours on a game then 2-6 hours doing drugs, killing people, or anything illegal. That would be how i feel about my children if i had any.
The person who made this article talking about Bill O'Riely adding his own spin on this subject fails to notice that they themselves have put a spin on the facts. And i notice that atleast most of these comments are very biast.
Clearly, your not trying to listen to his views. Your not even trying. O Riely is a pretty smart guy. In case you haven't noticed, there ARE a lot of people who are obsessed with videogames. I know this cause i have a little problem with it myself. But the fact is that there are people who have lost touch with reality cause there too busy with there DnD and there MTG and whatever to go get a friggen girlfriend. He was simply addressing this issue. People have to take reponsibility for there actions.
But i guess a bunch of secular progressivists wouldn't understand that. (Not to say that your all Secular. I'm sure there are some down to earth people here too, but there are definatly some seculars around here. )
If any of you would actually like to defend your points instead of trolling on a news article that's a couple months old, then come to the forums.
We Trust" on it to my knowledge this is the first US coin in my life time that has left it off. I am 71 years old. Please comment on this on the air.
Larry Kibbey Houston, TX
{ANNA NICOLE} AND HER BABY GIRL DANNIELYNN AND FOR HER FAMILY. HER FAMILY IS A VERY WONDERFUL FAMILY THEY ARE CAREING AND LOVEING. AND I THINK HOWARD K STERN IS A COLD HEARTED PERSON NOT TO LET HER REAL GRANDMOTHER BE A PART OF HER LIFE. VIRGIE IS HER HER REAL BLOOD. HOWARD IS NOTHING TO DANNIELYNN. IT WILL ALL COME OUT IN THE END AND LARRY BURKHEAD IS THE FATHER.
I FEEL VERY SORRY FOR BABY DANNIELYNN BECAUSE SHE ISN'T WITH HER BLOOD RELATIVES. BOY WHAT AN AWAKEING SHE WILL HAVE LATER ON IN LIFE. THIS IS VERY VERY SAD. I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO LOOK AT HOWARD STERN VERY GODD HE ISN'T BEING FAITHFUL ABOUT HIS LIES AND DOING. GODBLESS ANNA NICOLE,DANNIELYNN,VIRGIE AND THE REAL FAMILY OF ANNA NICOLE {AKA} VICKI LYNN HOGAN. MY PRAYS ARE WITH YOU ALL. MARION FROM TEXAS
MARION {TEXAS}
Join the club.
I hope the rude postings regarding him and just the tone of the emails, does not reflect the thoughts of the majority of people.
How vulgar these postings are.
Where's Dennis when you need him?
So, when do we send a huge shipment of 360s to Iraq?"
Dude, you are MORE ignorant than O'Reily who makes plenty of valid points. Up until the iPod statement, I actually agreed with most of his statements, albeit he is a little extreme.
He's not saying all video gamers are useless. He is saying that execcessive video game usage is a bad thing (it's call an ADDICTION.) He compares video game addiction to drug addiction, and rightly so, they both have similar effects on people's social life.
If a kid is a video game addict through his teenage years. He WON'T grow up to be a succesful contributer to our economy, unless he turns his life around. It's as simple as that.
I'm sorry that you people are too much off a hater of O'Reily to even recognize the validity in a lot of his points (not to say that he doesn't go too far, sometimes.)
I am e-mailing you, because we the georgia military veterans' needs your help with a matter. I am a 100% VA disable service connected veteran unemployable. I served 27 years of military service in U.S. Army as a (SGM E-9) two tours in vietnam, wounded three times and awarded three Purple Hearts.
I had a Georgia Superior Court Judge in Columbus, Georgia told me that HE DID NOT HAVE TO ABIDE BY ANY FEDERAL OR GOVERNMENT REGULATION, AND DOES WHAT EVER HE WANT TO IN HIS COURT ROOM and he forced me to surrender part of my VA disability benefit to my former spouse and that is a violation of the Constitutional law. I have appeared to Georgia Appear Court, but it was dismissed. Please read the following constitutional laws:
1. Section 1408, title 10, U.S. Code Uniform Service Former Spouse Protection Act (USFSPA)
2. Section 5301(a), title 38, Federal Regulation Code
3. Mansell v. Mansell 1989 case. The U.S. Supreme Court ruling stated that NO states courts/judges can take a veteran disability pay and replace it with Uniform Service Former Spouse Protection Act pay.
Will you please call me at 770-914-9366 home or 770-855-8004 cell
e-mail: paulbmw@bellsouth.net
205 Acadian Way
Stockbridge, GA 30281
Please we the veterans' of the United States of America are in needs of your help.
I will be looking forward to hearing from you soon by e-mail, telephone or letter.
Thanks
Paul M. Cousins
SGM (Retired USA)
Military Order of the Purple Heart
Is he saying that drugs are better than machines?