Sunday Editorial Roundup: PS3 Launch Violence a "Painful Spectacle"

Sunday Editorial Roundup: PS3 Launch Violence a "Painful Spectacle"

November 26, 2006
The well-documented crowd and violence incidents which marred the recent PlayStation 3 launch caught the attention of The Facts, a newspaper in Clute, Texas:
We take some comfort that Brazoria County was spared the ridiculousness experienced outside retail stores... This was not a food line, where starving people shove to the front in an attempt to... feed their families...

The debut of the PlayStation 3 a week ago was a painful spectacle of what we deem important in our society...

We wonder what it says of us as Americans that so many set aside their lives for as much as a week to wait in line to buy a video game console...

There are so many better things we can do with our money and our time — and we don’t have to risk being shot or stabbed to do them.

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Although I do not like the idea of camping to get something new, this is hardly an US thing. They should look at Japan, where peeps are camping for almost all new gadgets that come out.
I'm so freaking tired of this argument.

A) People also stand in line for days for Tickle Me Elmos and Star Wars movie debuts.

B) The waiting in line for a console did not cause any violence, it was the fact that the large amount of money needed for the console that tempted many to go over the edge, whether it be robberty or any other crime committed. The lesson learned is the 'money = root of evil' phrase, not 'we must kill to get a game console'.
"those people must have no life" the words I heard while waiting in-line for[insert next-gen system here] and i wish they wouldn't make a big deal. people who want to wait in line for something. let them; good way to meet people but getting shot over a ps3 or a "Extreme" tickle me elmo is idiotic. im a gamer and to see the media making hoopla over this is degrading for gamers and anyone who watches the news in general. In the line i was in to get a system; i had a great time. met people, talked, played wi-fi games and cheering like tailgaiters at a football game over uno. but the media has to fill its broadcasting day with people getting shot. it makes us look like maniacs and people with nothing better to do.
Isn't it the American Way (tm) to do whatever it takes to do what you want? Don't let things stand in the way of your dream, etc.? In this case, those people's dreams were to own a PS3 or make a shedload of money by selling one. Not grand dreams, sure, but it's something they wanted. If that involves taking a few days off work and risking getting mugged, and they acknowledge those risks, then so be it. It's not anyone else's position to tell them how to spend their time.

"There are so many better things we can do with our money and our time — and we don’t have to risk being shot or stabbed to do them."

Damn right. But you don't have to do those other things if you'd rather queue for a PS3. The US is a place in which people can do things that seem ridiculous to others.
I wanna hear later that this writer's kid asked him for a PS3 and he had to spend 2000$ on ebay for one because he didn't wait in line.

Given the severity of what these people are waiting for (a 600$ top of the line piece of technology) I think waiting in line for a week is kind of extreme. But, the PS3 is in such high demand and yet there are so few of them. The Whole "supply and demand" principle backfired on the few folks who actually did get shot and mugged for one.

Someone needs to pull up the tickle me elmo riots. Video footage of soccer moms kicking, biting, scratching, and anything else, just to get their hands on a single toy. Not a 600$ toy, but yet these parents were trampling employees and anyone else in their way just to grab one and run off with it.

But, because that was Elmo, and not the satantic videogames that the media seems to quick to bash, we forget about it pretty quickly. This whole scapegoat thing is an abuse of media power.
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Don't these morons get it tis not the camping out witch is a age old right of passage for any US nerd, geek or Star wars fan,its the retailers fault for not being ready to sell 5 consoles to 100+ people.....
PS: waiting in line over the week end at max 2 days is not to over the top but anything over that kinda is,but then again without crowd control to deal with the insurgence of people on the day of sale what good is baning camping out?
Let me make sure I understand this argument.

If you are waiting in line for a PS3, you are a loser with no life and misplaced values.

If you are waiting in line for Black Friday shopping, you are being patriotic and supporting the economy.

Riiiiight.

As far as having nothing better to do, scalpers were at one point making a $2,000 return on their $600 investment. That's a lot more money than many people earn in a week. And all they had to do is stand in a line.
If you are waiting in line for Black Friday shopping, you are being patriotic and supporting the economy.

Wait, wait - where'd they say that part?
While you go do something else with your time, im gonna camp here and get my PS3. What? your still talking? go away!
Does anyone remember the cabbage patch doll craze back in the 80's? how 'bout tickle me elmo (which used the cabbage patch kids marketing stratecgy)?

Yeah. This isn't the first time people have gone insane over a new toy and I'll be dammed it it's the last time it's ever going to happen.
I'll agree that this sort of stuff has happened before, and is actually expected of most popular items. What makes me hold such disdain for people is that they allow a popular hype to convince them to stand through an endurance trial when waiting a little while longer would produce the same results. That this would end up with alot of bloodshed indicates that NOBODY was paying attention to one simple fact- only a few people would be walking away with a PS3 in their arms, and the rest of them would have to walk away without one. That the reasoning behind it would be that they wished to be the first to have one is yet another delusion- no one is truly going to be "first" in the U.S., and that doesn't mean that it's going to have good games.
Has anyone even heard of any incidents for the Wii? The most I saw in my town was about ten people lined up outside of the local Toys R Us.
There were no Wii incidents, since Nintendo actually made enough to go around. I waited in line at Target where they had 33 systems. Buy the time they opened the doors, there were 33 people in line, and everyone went home happy.
The reason there were shootings and assaults where people tried to steal someone's PS3?

Simple.

http://cgi.ebay.com/PS3-SONY-PLAYSTATION-3-PREMIUM-60GB-SYSTEM-CONSOLE_W...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Playstation-3-60GB-Console-PS3-NO-RESERVE_W0QQi...

Two different auctions on Ebay, by two different sellers. Both brought in the exact same amount - $14,100. As someone above said, the main cause of the violence was money.
@ Mysticgamer

I haven't heard of any incidents for the Wii I stood in line for one of those, but it wasn't as extreme as the PS3 launch. This is why I detest the media reporting this way because it didn't happen with the Wii.

-Auto
The reason why there was no violence for the Wii was because there wasn't enough time for a lot of people to line up. Some people waited for 5 days for the PS3, but to be first in line for the Wii, you had to line up on Friday or Saturday.
What the violence regarding the PS3 launch says about Americans as well as other citizens of the world that there're people out there that will do anything for a few bucks.

These people will maim and kill anyone in their way to make a buck. They will stay on line for a week to earn the equivalent of $15 / hour after all is said and done.

Greed is Good (tm)

Incidentally I didn't see the same editors writing any editorials about the contrast between the PS3 launch and the Wii launch. The former was riddled with scalping scum doing their scummy little things, the latter was were the video gamers were. The difference between the two events, only days apart, says volumes about video gamers, and scalping scum alike.
This and all other editorials with similar messages seem to take the attitude that video games aren't worth our time because there are more "important things". Before any newspaper says that, why don't they quit their jobs, throw out all their CDs, movies, music, books, art etc. and go work in a homeless shelter or fight in Iraq? If you're going to call video games a waste of time, then you must take the same position on all media, in which case you're anti-culture. It is human nature to seek out and create art/entertainment even if it isn't saving any lives in process. If we didn't have any of that, I highly doubt people would spend their lives helping the suffering. In fact, we would probably just end up killing eachother. I'd like to know what the author of that article does in his spare time that's so much more worthwile...
Greed is a terrible thing. Anyone remember Cabbage Patch Kids? Grown women fighting tooth and nail to get a stuffed toy for their child, and they were about $30-$40 each at most iirc.

Raise the stakes, add the fact that Sony produced so few that the things became both Status Symbols and Hi-Resale items and there will be those that will use violence to obtain them.

In a way, I hold Sony partly responsible, the US is a Capitalistic culture, and I don't mean that offensively, the UK is as well to a degree. To release so few units after hard-selling the item for so long was an unfortunate act on their part. I certainly hope this was simply because they could not produce enough units, and not because they are witholding to keep demand high.
Kinda on topic, but Chan Lowe, the cartoonist for the Sun-Sentinel, has a response to all of this...
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/media/cartoon/2006-11/26577165.jpg
I'm wondering, though, if he got the facts right, because I don't remember any violence during the Wii launch...
This newspaper is somewhat right. Video games are very good and very important, but is a game console really worth all that trouble? I wouldn't go through that much trouble for anything and most new video game consoles don't even work. What's the point of being on of the first people to buy a gaming console if there's a good chance that it won't even work? I think the PS3 is going to be a great console over all, but I don't think it's worth all that trouble and danger. It's definitely better to wait for a while until things calm down and there's a better chance that it will work!
"Wait, wait - where’d they say that part?"

It's not necessarily in this story. But it's something several media outlets claimed, both locally and nationally, on Black Friday.
@GoodRobotUs

Oh! I remember that cabbage patch thing. I was 6 or 7 and saw a lady get knocked the F--k out at a Toys R Us by another lady. Well thats not all that lady like now is it?

Whats sad is that when people put video games into the picture of an argument, anything on the video game side is wrong.
Pfft I say sony was just trying to push up demand for this product to get news coverage like this. Free ads for the "most wanted" system that in my circle of friends no one wants to bother trying to get. On the other hand my Wii should be here some time tomorrow. Personally I don't see what all the hype about the ps3 is about...sure I'll probably get it sooner or later since thats where FF series gets published, but all the trouble with this launch? Screw it you can get the 360 and the Wii for the same price as 1 ps3 and they are more readily available.
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I think that camping out to get something new is nuts. Simply wait a few days and you won't have to sleep in a parking lot.

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