Proposed New York Law Would Block Sale of Violent Games to Minors

January 16, 2007 -
Yesterday GamePolitics reported on a New York State bill designed to block minors from purchasing games with racist or religious violence. Now comes word of a second video game proposal before the legislature in Albany. 

The measure, A02024, is sponsored by Rep. Aurelia Greene (D) and seeks to prevent underage players from buying violent games. The bill would also require that mature-themed games sold at retail be kept in an area beyond the access of minors.

Rep. Greene's bill has been referred to the Assembly's Committe on Consumer Affairs and Protection.

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Am glad to see Rep. Aurelia Greene (D) spending quality tax $ time on such an important issue that allready has been dealt with via violence rateing , please include anything else ie: magazine covers etc that are part of todays life .
I'll bet a yes vote was your choice for no talk & drive , mandatory seat belt & helmet laws or anything else to protec us from ourselves & strip freedom from americans .
Spending time on cutting taxes or bringing business back NY would be my suggestion , oh but theres no insurance co. lobby $ there .

"The bill would also require that mature-themed games sold at retail be kept in an area beyond the access of minors."

I thought we all ready had a place for games like that, its called "that dude behind the register". Obviously you can't leave the store with out buying the game, and I'm fairly shure that if a 6yo tryed buying a Mature game, he wouldn't sell it to them. It's not like the cover of the game is like the cover of a nude mag or video or something, so i dont see why we should develope a whole seprate room just for them.

[...] It’s about time. We’re just sick and tired of all those whipper snappers, running amok in our deatmatches and stealing all our kills. Rep. Aurelia Greene (D) and Rep. Keith Wright (D), patron saints of mature gamers, have both proposed laws which ban the sale of violent video games to minors in the state of New York, and hide them away in an adults only section of the store. Rep. Wright’s law concentrates on more scandalous forms of violence and racism, while Rep. Greene seems generally down on the whole general of video game violence. Keith Wright’s law would require an ID check for anyone appearing under the age of 30 attempting to buy a violent video game, which seems to work so well at keeping alcohol and cigarettes out of the hands of minors. [...]

[...] It’s about time. We’re just sick and tired of all those whipper snappers, running amok in our deatmatches and stealing all our kills. Rep. Aurelia Greene (D) and Rep. Keith Wright (D), patron saints of mature gamers, have both proposed laws which ban the sale of violent video games to minors in the state of New York, and hide them away in an adults only section of the store. Rep. Wright’s law concentrates on more scandalous forms of violence and racism, while Rep. Greene seems generally down on the whole general of video game violence. Keith Wright’s law would require an ID check for anyone appearing under the age of 30 attempting to buy a violent video game, which seems to work so well at keeping alcohol and cigarettes out of the hands of minors. [...]

[...] It’s about time. We’re just sick and tired of all those whipper snappers, running amok in our deatmatches and stealing all our kills. Rep. Aurelia Greene (D) and Rep. Keith Wright (D), patron saints of mature gamers, have both proposed laws which ban the sale of violent video games to minors in the state of New York, and hide them away in an adults only section of the store. Rep. Wright’s law concentrates on more scandalous forms of violence and racism, while Rep. Greene seems generally down on the whole general of video game violence. Keith Wright’s law would require an ID check for anyone appearing under the age of 30 attempting to buy a violent video game, which seems to work so well at keeping alcohol and cigarettes out of the hands of minors. [...]

@Jeff

The law you're referring to has been toast for a while now. The federal judge ruling on it declared it unconstitutional last March. The state has yet to try again.

Also, somebody please do something about these goddamned spammers.

Never trust anyone over 30.

[...] It’s about time. We’re just sick and tired of all those whipper snappers, running amok in our deatmatches and stealing all our kills. Rep. Aurelia Greene (D) and Rep. Keith Wright (D), patron saints of mature gamers, have both proposed laws which ban the sale of violent video games to minors in the state of New York, and hide them away in an adults only section of the store. Rep. Wright’s law concentrates on more scandalous forms of violence and racism, while Rep. Greene seems generally down on the whole general of video game violence. Keith Wright’s law would require an ID check for anyone appearing under the age of 30 attempting to buy a violent video game, which seems to work so well at keeping alcohol and cigarettes out of the hands of minors. [...]

[...] It’s about time. We’re just sick and tired of all those whipper snappers, running amok in our deatmatches and stealing all our kills. Rep. Aurelia Greene (D) and Rep. Keith Wright (D), patron saints of mature gamers, have both proposed laws which ban the sale of violent video games to minors in the state of New York, and hide them away in an adults only section of the store. Rep. Wright’s law concentrates on more scandalous forms of violence and racism, while Rep. Greene seems generally down on the whole general of video game violence. Keith Wright’s law would require an ID check for anyone appearing under the age of 30 attempting to buy a violent video game, which seems to work so well at keeping alcohol and cigarettes out of the hands of minors. [...]

[...] It’s about time. We’re just sick and tired of all those whipper snappers, running amok in our deatmatches and stealing all our kills. Rep. Aurelia Greene (D) and Rep. Keith Wright (D), patron saints of mature gamers, have both proposed laws which ban the sale of violent video games to minors in the state of New York, and hide them away in an adults only section of the store. Rep. Wright’s law concentrates on more scandalous forms of violence and racism, while Rep. Greene seems generally down on the whole general of video game violence. Keith Wright’s law would require an ID check for anyone appearing under the age of 30 attempting to buy a violent video game, which seems to work so well at keeping alcohol and cigarettes out of the hands of minors. [...]

[...] It’s about time. We’re just sick and tired of all those whipper snappers, running amok in our deatmatches and stealing all our kills. Rep. Aurelia Greene (D) and Rep. Keith Wright (D), patron saints of mature gamers, have both proposed laws which ban the sale of violent video games to minors in the state of New York, and hide them away in an adults only section of the store. Rep. Wright’s law concentrates on more scandalous forms of violence and racism, while Rep. Greene seems generally down on the whole general of video game violence. Keith Wright’s law would require an ID check for anyone appearing under the age of 30 attempting to buy a violent video game, which seems to work so well at keeping alcohol and cigarettes out of the hands of minors. [...]

[...] Now, I’m sure that everyone that’s got the gaming industry tabbed for their own political purposes - like Senator Lieberman, Senator Clinton, and most recently, NY State Assemblywoman Aurelia Greene of the Bronx - will be up in arms. Why, that Playstation! Teaching kids how to drive! Why, next thing you know, viddogames will be responsible for teaching kids how to give wedgies! And how to become sex pushing pimps! Why, that’s only a short stroke away from them abusing our wildlife! [...]

I wonder how many of these bills would be passed if the legislators had to pay for the legal fees out-of-pocket when they lost?

forget the last message. Apparently some news sites are reporting the bill as recommending age 30 and under. Text of the actual bill says 18 unless it has been redacted from a earlier version.

Uhh am I the only one that finds it ironic that they want the age to be 30 an younger. These are the same people that want 18 year olds to sign up for the draft just in case all the 19 - 30 year olds get killed off trying to kill other people with 50 cal machine guns, cruise missiles, jet fighters, tanks etc. I am sure a good majority of those warriors are under 30 when the reflexes are still at their peak.

I guess when it is real blood it is OK but when it is simulated blood it is some how bad. looks like a typical case of Cranial Rectumitus. I understand it is very contagious among politicians. shrug

This is the email I just sent to the big guys...basically the same post from earlier....just changed a few words here and there.
Thanks Tyetheczar
Why do you politicians always say that you are thinking about the poor helpless children being exposed to “murder simulators” (a Jackass Thompson quote) when you try over and over to ban rocknroll…er I mean video games.
Oh, those poor helpless kids with roofs over there heads, food on the table, clothes on their backs.

Meanwhile right at this very moment a child is being beaten, another raped, and another has abusive parents or other abusive adults. Thousands upon thousand of other children are hungry, dirty, lack proper education, do not have access to regular health care, are homeless, countless others have no parents.
Why aren't these issues more important to you than violent video games?

I know, because a poor helpless abused child can't vote. If they could (like the soccer moms that you love) then you would care. You and all gamebashing/protect the kids politicians are dispicable liars and scum. You make me sick.

In my opinion, not 1 more dollar should be spent on the “war on drugs” or banning violent video games while there are child smuggling sex rings, homeless/abandoned/ or unloved children.

To me these issues are infinitely more important. It sickens me that there are so many abuses of children in this country that no one seems to care about. Especially the (you)politicians.

I do not get it. I am a parent. I will and have taught my children that video games are make believe. I tell them that in the real world you cannot go and bash someone over the head with a baseball bat….but in the video game you can. I do not need you or someone else "protecting" my kids by wasting taxpayers money on proposed laws that (if you had half a brain) know would never pass.

Video games are no different than fantasy books were in the 1700’s. They are no different than rocknroll was in the 50’s. Conservatives FEAR change…always have, always will. I sometimes wonder what will be the next medium that the religious intolerant conservative nuttchuggers go after next. Maybe it has not been invented yet.

Someday this madness will stop and video games will be no different than movies, music, books, etc. And the religious right/neocons will move on to something else to fear, hate, and will want to ban/eradicate.

And the suffering of the poor helpless children will go on, and on, and on.

Please act like you care about people less fortunate than us, or better yet, go to a homeless shelter and explain to those starving/unwanted/abused children that they can't eat because you had to waste more money on ridiculous video game laws.

I mean… does anyone, ANYONE, care about the precedent set by the OTHER failed video game legislations

Judges and lawyers do. That's why you see these laws getting shot down quicker, and Attorney Generals being unhappy with the idea. The judges don't enjoy their time being wasted, and the AGs don't like being stuck with the job of defending something that can't really be defended.

Most games are kept beyond access to all the customers at most gaming specialty stores. But then, what if a minor gets an M rated game in their hands at the store? What can they do with it? Well, if they open it, they can be charged for shoplifting for one. And if they take it to the counter the store can simply refuse to sell it to them.

@ Eldritch:

We seem to agree that video games with mature content should be restricted to adults; however, forcing retailers to comply with these regulations with the penalty of significant fines is not the solution. Substances such as alcohol and cigarettes have been proven to have a detrimental effect on young people, whereas this has not been established with video games. You compare the restriction of movies with adult content to that of video games with adult content, but there is no law or penalty for selling R rated movie tickets to youngsters, the ratings and the subsequent restrictions for that medium are voluntary. If you impose heavy fines on companies for selling mature video game content to teenagers, you risk the possibility that many stores (such as Wal-Mart) may opt out of carrying those games entirely. This has an economic impact on the companies which produce said games, and also has the potential to affect the content development process of these games as well. Some companies may change or censor the content of their games – content that some adults may want, and might not be able to find otherwise.

I just emailed the big guys over there,(an earfull) oy. Speed over to here and back me up, oy. We should all do this to everybody, oy. Party on, dudes, oy!

@Grimm22:

"...its completely ok to say anything you want about white people."

That's because everybody knows you white folks are the devil incarnate. =) The double standard makes me sick as well.

Politicians don't know when to stop. Putting violent video games in the same category as pornography makes me furious. Pornography is harmful and violent video games aren't. They shouldn't be restricted and I believe that violent video games are the greatest invention ever made.

UGGHY WHO COMES UP WITH THIS RETARTED BILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Politicans love wasting taxpayers money on stupid legislation that they have to know by now will fail, don't they.
Well i guess so long as it gets them votes from the SUV driving soccer moms and doesn't cost then anything, they don't give a damn.

"That’s because everybody knows you white folks are the devil incarnate. =) The double standard makes me sick as well."

But if we complain about it, OMG RACIST!

When video games are outlawed, only outlaws will have video games.

:P

Another law that says it's fixing something while doing nothing. Sure, it would block sales, but it won't stop kids from getting the games.

Yes, because everyone knows that Microsoft programs in how to crash a plane into the World Trade Center. :)

HAHAHAH... Chalk one up for another stupid bill that will be be past.. I hate idiots that are paid to work in our government.. This has to be the best dumbest thing I have ever seen in a long time..
I wonder if the drug test before hiring into the government...

@Snakestream

Note: Ignore Last Post, stupid no editing screwed me up before I figured out what was going on

@Snakestream

Exactly, racists aren't born because of a media format. Evil cannot be given to someone, it has to be created by one's own sins

@Snakestream

I think they already did the 9-11 thing. I coulda sworn people were complaining that Microsofts' pilot simulators were so realistic that it was the method of choice for training for that exact scenario.

Am I the only person scared by how many idiots are in our political system?

30?!? That's got to be a typo.

ha! What a joke....

This is depressing; I hope my state never even dreams of passing crap like this and wasting the taxpayer's money on worthless unconstitutional bills. Next thing you know, the politicians are gonna say that the terrorists did 9/11 because of video games and then they're gonna whip up the public into another frenzy so they can pass something as illegal, unconstitutional, and big brotherish as the Patriot Act.

Does anyone find this kind of ironic?

First the anti game crowd says that games are bad because of violence in general

Now they are saying they are bad because of violence against people of a with a certain skin color?!?

So now according to the anti-game community, violence in wrong only when its against a certain ethnicity?!?

Can't say I find it very suprising considering that its politcally incorrect to make racial jokes against anyone who isn't white, but its completely ok to say anything you want about white people *rolls eyes*

I agree with killjebus. Fact of the matter is sexually abused children can't vote and are therefore completely worthless in the eyes of politicians. Except for when they are able to lure them on AIM into having sex with them.

What's the word... Deja vu?

Politicians always say that they are thinking about the poor helpless children being exposed to "murder simulators" (a Jackass Thompson quote) when they try over and over to ban rocknroll...er I mean video games.
Oh, those poor helpless kids with roofs over there heads, food on the table, clothes on their backs.

Meanwhile right at this very moment a child is being beaten, another raped, and another has abusive parents or other abusive adults. Thousands upon thousand of other children are hungry, dirty, lack proper education, do not have access to regular health care, are homeless, countless others have no parents.
Why are these issues more important than video games?

In my opinion, not 1 more dollar should be spent on the "war on drugs" or banning violent video games while there are child smuggling sex rings, homeless/abandoned/ or unloved children.

To me these issues are infinitely more important. It sickens me that there are so many abuses of children in this country that no one seems to care about. Especially the politicians.

I do not get it. I am a parent. I will and have taught my children that video games are make believe. I tell them that in the real world you cannot go and bash someone over the head with a baseball bat....but in the video game you can. Video games are no different than fantasy books were in the 1700's. They are no different than rocknroll was in the 50's. Conservatives FEAR change...always have, always will. I sometimes wonder what will be the next medium that the religious intolerant conservative nuttchuggers go after next. Maybe it has not been invented yet.

Someday this madness will stop and video games will be no different than movies, music, books, etc. And the religious right/neocons will move on to something else to fear, hate, and will want to ban/eradicate.

And the suffering of the poor helpless children will go on, and on, and on.

Frack Jackass Thompson, Hillarythefacistpig Clinton, Joe Lieberman and Bill O'nazi Riley.

Hey, how about wasting our tax money on something useful, like... oh, say, *education!* What a novel idea!

Sorry New Yorkers, but no laws will ever stop anyone from playing the video games that they want. If people cannot buy some video games until they are 30 than they will just download them illegally.

Proposed New York Law Would Block Sale of Violent Games to Minors...

Yesterday GamePolitics reported on a New York State bill designed to block minors from purchasing games with racist or religious violence. Now comes word of a second video game proposal before the legislature in Albany.

The measure, A02024, is sponso...

Ok, so they say video games are the scourge of our people now (I mean the last 2 generations), and they say it "makes" people kill each other, yet I find that distubingly ignorant. This is the DnD crusade from the 80's come to haunt us all!
I was raised on video games, I believe I am a good person though. I dont like violence, I believe in non-violent conflict. These reports of killers killing because of video games make the whole industry look bad.
To draw some easy conclusion from this comment, just take a look at Pat Pulling's son who died allagedly because of DnD. He suffered from social disorders, depression, and a case of schizophrenia, yet she blamed it on DnD!! This violence comes from people with prior mental illness! Not some kid who just played a good game of Grand Theft Auto!

Surely this woman intends to ensure that the youngsters that are unable to purchase violent video games won't be fighting in Iraq...

mmk. Lets say for some stupid whacked out reason this bill does get passed, God forbid. Piracy = skyrocket, Gaming Sales = plummit. The ratio of teen gamers to 30 y/o gamers is quite high methinks. I know if I was 18 and living in NY and they passed that bill i'd be just downloading a cracked copy.... like i usually do =x. But seriously they'll kill the gaming industry. It's whacked. + Do you think banning violent games, but allowing jackass and violent movies on TV kind of defeats the purpose?

90% of the time it’s Democrats

Reps may be big on "judging morality", but they temper it with a reluctance to interfere in industry. If it was punishing unruly teens alone, I think Reps would have no problem proposing it, because the little buggers are clearly guiltly. Dems on the other hand have no problem telling industry what to do, because they know best...
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Does anyone notice it is still manily the Censorcrats, uhh i mean Democrats propsing these kinds of bills. Yes, Republicans have done it to but 90% of the time it’s Democrats.

That's because it allows them to look like they're moving to the right without doing anything of substance.

Does anyone notice it is still manily the Censorcrats, uhh i mean Democrats propsing these kinds of bills. Yes, Republicans have done it to but 90% of the time it's Democrats. God, i wish the Libertarian party was in power. The two main U.S. political parties suck.

Lol, Censorcrats are not democrats. Any politician who tries to ban stuff because it doesn't suit his worldview is a censorcrat.

As for the dems though, i would assume that their too cowardly to face the evil republican opressors, so they try to solve other crap instead.

@MaskedPixelante

If at first you don't succeed, pretend you're protecting a different demographic and try again.

Eventually some kind of scare tactic will make it past a sympathetic judge, right? ;)
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