Submitted by Kommisar (not verified) on Fri, 03/16/2007 - 18:58.
@LightWarrior:
I seriously doubt that this was a pre-meditated strategy by Take-Two. I think it's just a case of "Look, this has gone on long enough!"
If nothing else, T2 is simply protecting their own interests and rights (as is very well stated in the lawsuit text).
Thompson would most likely try and a) frighten off retailers and b) tie things up in court long enough that one or both titles would miss the Holiday shopping season, thus having a (potentially) major impact on T2's financial success with those titles.
Submitted by E. Zachary Knight (not verified) on Fri, 03/16/2007 - 14:47.
I just read the papers. They have a very strong case. they more than likely have all documenattion from previous suits and the threat letters from Thompson. So they will have an easy win.
Submitted by Johnny Q. Doe (not verified) on Fri, 03/16/2007 - 14:43.
I especially like how they mentioned that JT dropped his previous suit if sanctions against him were dropped.
Very interesting. My knowledge of law is limited to that of my media law class a few years ago, but this seems to be a very smart move on T2's part.
Business-wise, this appears to wholly be in the best interest for the company. By clearing away the legalities with the courts now, the retailers should be more inclined to sell and promote these upcoming games.
[...] Let’s hope Take Two bankrupts the “fine” attorney or that Jackie boy does something so stupendous the Florida Bar Association has no choice but to finally disbar him. Payback is a bitch, Thumper! The full text of the lawsuit has been archived by GamePolitics.com. [...]
Submitted by Joseph (not verified) on Wed, 04/11/2007 - 12:48.
Yeah, what the hell is thompsons problem anyways? hes so obsessed with the thought that hes everyones personal savior, either that or he doesnt really care about videogame violence, but hes just in it for the $ and attention.
Submitted by Archgabe (not verified) on Sun, 03/18/2007 - 00:25.
All in all this is looking to be the begining of the end for Jack Thompson's reign of terror. I predict one of three things:
1) TT starts a ball rolling where other game companies and people who have been attacked by Thompson seek legal means to stop the constant harassment beset upon them.
2) TT obliterates Thompson's legal career in one fell swoop when the Florida Ber realizes that Thompson is the equivilant to a small god with a megaphone. (Meaning that he is only as dangerous as kitten when you get past his threats.)
3) both situations happen.
Thompson was always a thorn in all of our sides but now with this event it is about time someone took him down and no one diserves it more than TT.
Submitted by Mnementh2230 (not verified) on Sat, 03/17/2007 - 18:53.
Looks like T2 and Blank Rome have a lot of legal precedent supporting their claim, although the precedent is not for the specific issue they are arguing. From a purely legal perspective it will be interesting to see how this turns out.
From a purely personal perspective, it will be interesting to see how hard Jack FAILS.
Submitted by Brainswarm (not verified) on Sat, 03/17/2007 - 00:19.
@Randalor
The term "Chilling Effect" is used a lot in cases involving the First Amendment. The argument is that if free speech is restricted in one way, in this case violent video games, it will then be restricted further when content creators or retailers censor themselves for fear of being seen to violate the restrictions.
For example, if GTAIV is banned under Florida's nuisance law, Gamestops in Florida will start being wary of stocking anything more violent than Barbie Horse Adventures, for fear that Jack Thompson will go after the next iteration of Ratchet and Clank. That's a bit of an extreme example, but you get the idea.
Submitted by GoodRobotUs (not verified) on Fri, 03/16/2007 - 22:16.
It is when his actions are deliberately designed to deter or misdirect shops into not stocking Take Two products.
The litigation against Bully, and JT's little campaign of mailing shops afterwards stating that 'in his opinion' Bully had homosexual sex scenes in it and was illegal are both pretty blatant examples of trying to instill a chill factor into Take Two games, making shops unwilling to stock such 'controversial' games.
Zen: I felt Brutal Legends was a funny & beautiful look at the world of rock from Double Fines point of view. The only parts I wasn't hot for were the RTS bits as it felt forced. Otherwise fantastic.02/12/2012 - 1:34pm
DorthLous: Passed 1.5M$. And I'd also say that Brutal Legend is far from being a bad game. I just think it was a few levels under what people expected from the people working on the project.02/11/2012 - 8:25am
Technogeek: Brutal Legend wasn't bad so much as "marketing had no idea how the game actually played", causing it to suffer accordingly.02/10/2012 - 10:38pm
RedMage: It looks the CIA's website has been DDOS'ed. Anon?02/10/2012 - 7:52pm
RedMage: Brutal Legend.02/10/2012 - 7:52pm
ddrfr33k: Has anything Tim Schafer ever made been of crap caliber? I'm struggling to think of one...02/10/2012 - 7:37pm
Guamish: I think it is in good hands. Tim did a game for the GDC award show and that was fun for how short it was.02/10/2012 - 12:22pm
Andrew Eisen: It'll be tragic if the game ultimately sucks.02/10/2012 - 12:17pm
Andrew Eisen: Damn. Double Fine's Kickstarter fund has already passed a million dollars.02/09/2012 - 8:16pm
Andrew Eisen: Audrey didn't quote the sassy parts. Here's IGN's article: http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1218359p1.html And here's my original post: http://tinyurl.com/7y68a3902/09/2012 - 7:50pm
james_fudge: I hope you some said something sassy! Where's the link?02/09/2012 - 7:46pm
Andrew Eisen: Hey, neat. IGN quoted a blog I had writen only two hours earlier. I certainly timed that one pretty well.02/09/2012 - 7:38pm
Andrew Eisen: Toki Tori has been added to the Humble Bundle for Android.02/09/2012 - 5:11pm
james_fudge: Thanks for the heads-up DorthLous02/09/2012 - 4:33pm
DorthLous: Will do, my apologies.02/09/2012 - 4:14pm
Andrew Eisen: I appreciate the heads up but please keep typo alerts to the specific article's comments or PMs.02/09/2012 - 3:33pm
DorthLous: The title says 30, but in the article, the developer says it's like a 20% net tax http://www.gamepolitics.com/2012/02/09/developers-call-facebook-currency-transaction-fee-thirty-percent-tax02/09/2012 - 2:43pm
Comments
I seriously doubt that this was a pre-meditated strategy by Take-Two. I think it's just a case of "Look, this has gone on long enough!"
If nothing else, T2 is simply protecting their own interests and rights (as is very well stated in the lawsuit text).
Thompson would most likely try and a) frighten off retailers and b) tie things up in court long enough that one or both titles would miss the Holiday shopping season, thus having a (potentially) major impact on T2's financial success with those titles.
Good on ya, Take-Two... go get 'em!
The whole thing!!!
This is so going to hurt JT bigtime.
Sorry, just had to get a little bit lowenstien there.
(Sorry for the multiple posts. I wish I had an edit feature. ....Or that I hadn't sent messages until I read it all)
All in all, I think they have a strong case and that Jack will make a fool of himself in court and say they're persecuting him.
Very interesting. My knowledge of law is limited to that of my media law class a few years ago, but this seems to be a very smart move on T2's part.
Business-wise, this appears to wholly be in the best interest for the company. By clearing away the legalities with the courts now, the retailers should be more inclined to sell and promote these upcoming games.
1) TT starts a ball rolling where other game companies and people who have been attacked by Thompson seek legal means to stop the constant harassment beset upon them.
2) TT obliterates Thompson's legal career in one fell swoop when the Florida Ber realizes that Thompson is the equivilant to a small god with a megaphone. (Meaning that he is only as dangerous as kitten when you get past his threats.)
3) both situations happen.
Thompson was always a thorn in all of our sides but now with this event it is about time someone took him down and no one diserves it more than TT.
From a purely personal perspective, it will be interesting to see how hard Jack FAILS.
The term "Chilling Effect" is used a lot in cases involving the First Amendment. The argument is that if free speech is restricted in one way, in this case violent video games, it will then be restricted further when content creators or retailers censor themselves for fear of being seen to violate the restrictions.
For example, if GTAIV is banned under Florida's nuisance law, Gamestops in Florida will start being wary of stocking anything more violent than Barbie Horse Adventures, for fear that Jack Thompson will go after the next iteration of Ratchet and Clank. That's a bit of an extreme example, but you get the idea.
The litigation against Bully, and JT's little campaign of mailing shops afterwards stating that 'in his opinion' Bully had homosexual sex scenes in it and was illegal are both pretty blatant examples of trying to instill a chill factor into Take Two games, making shops unwilling to stock such 'controversial' games.
1) Just how long T2 put up with Jack's bullpoop, or
2) The fact that I managed to read the entire document and understand it.
Though is "chilling" an acceptable word in this case? I noticed it alot throughout the document.
The enemy closing in
Where is your god now?
It's good to see the details of the documents like this. Very informative and instructive.
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