Gamer Group Plans NYC Protest Rally

Gamer Group Plans NYC Protest Rally

April 19, 2007
As reported by Cnet, a video game website based in New York City plans to hold a "Fellowship of the Gamers" rally on May 5th in Manhattan's Bryant Park.

Empire Arcadia - frankly, GP is not familiar with the site -  says:
We will protest, mourn and show how real gamers play videogames peacefully and responsibly.

This demonstration is to show that gamers will not take the blame (for) this tragic (VA Tech) matter but we will do what we can to help put an end to terrible events like this.

We... urge that all leaders of gaming communities, organizations down to the last gamer to set aside 10 hours of this day to pay respect and come together not just as gamers but as HUMAN BEINGS for peace. Bring your Game Boy Advance, Nintendo DS and Playstation Portables. Bring your favorite games to link up and play with your friends. Tetris, Tekken DR, Mario Kart and more.

Comments

I'm kind of torn as to how I feel about this. I don't think doing the protest so soon after what happened at VT and using it as a way to mourn the tragedy is a good idea. However I do believe that doing the protest in response to Governor Spitzer's wish to pass video game legislation is a brilliant idea. I do wish the organizers luck with the protest though.
This strikes me a very BAD idea. Protesting and mourning by having the handheld equivalent of an outdoor LAN? Exactly what message are they trying to send?

"We are so saddened by the events at Virginia Tech and angered by gamer stereotyping that we're going to get together and... play games?"

Gamers are already seen as a group wholly unconcerned with the world at large because we're too preoccupied with staring vacantly at our monitors/TVs/etc... as I see it, this will only reinforce that stereotype.

You could make the argument that it's about gamers coming together peaceably to show that we're not violent sociopaths... but again, try to see it from the outside: they're going to be playing competitive games, partaking of *entertainment*, likely smiling, laughing, joking around, hurling friendly insults (a fair description of any social gaming event I've ever been to). Does that sound like *mourning* to anyone?

Here's a thought: show your outrage at stereotyping and support for the families of those lost in this tragedy by doing something *other than playing games*. Show the mainstream that you're *not* only interested in gaming.

And I have to say, I'm with Jonathan on the whole "creepy" thing. Looking through the pictures on that Myspace page... I was actually kinda frightened.
This seems a pretty foolish move to me. It's going to continue to focus the discussion on the impact that violent video games had on the VT shooter, when there's no evidence that games had ANY impact whatsoever. Not only is this confusing the real issues (for example, should faculty have more of a capacity to report and act on behalf of mentally troubled students), but it's going to give people the false impression that there is some sort of link between gaming and violence, despite the stated intent of the demonstration.

It also seems a bit like a cheap publicity stunt. Just a bad idea all around.
The organizer never shows his face, either

It's some weird cult like thing, with "foot soldiers" like Jonathan "Fata1ity" Wendell or whatever his name is and random hot models they refer to as Valkyries. (Tommy Tallarico is their bard...)

What is this shit? It's creepy and it's not going to help out gamers at all.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendI...
Jonathan Brown, it's no more "creepy" than your average fraternity or Elks Lodge. It's just a whole bunch of people organized around promoting something they enjoy. Harping on the arbitrarily assigned titles would be like calling the Girl Scouts a cult for having "Daisies" and "Brownies" who eventually earn the right to enter "STUDIO 2B."

Any organization can be made to look strange when misrepresented by people who don't understand it.

--Kyuzo
Can we take any grassroots effort seriously when its led by a man who legally changed his name to "Triforce"?
I can see where they're coming from, with the "we're not all like that" stance but this whole thing is asking for trouble.

Headline: "Gamers protest en masse."
Media agenda: "Instead of mourning, these people chose to play *more* games."
Possible trouble: "Violence broke out at a gathering of gamers out to defend their hobby after the VTech shootings."
Potential outcome: Hundreds of people invited to take expensive handheld consoles and gather in public. In New York. What are the chances that some of that technology will not be going home with its original owners?
@Shoehorn

I think it's too late to avoid the "whacky" label ... Empire Arcadia is led by a weirdo who wears a Nintendo Power Glove all the time. Although honestly he is pretty articulate and smart, he looks like a doofus with that thing. Even when MTV tried to be objective about the way they represented some of the EmpArc gamers, some of those guys came off as being pretty fringe.

Still, good on them for the grassroots effort to make a better name for the gaming community. Also, I applaud them for their work in organizing competitive gaming tournaments, which is no simple task.
If what the NIMF, JT, and friends say is true- then every time there is a Halo, Tekken, or any game tournament, a violent riot should break out...

Also, Empire Arcadia is that organisation with that strange Triforce guy who wears a power glove wherever he goes...
[...] This is the first such event I’ve seen to get any (online) press coverage, though I’m aware that the Entertainment Consumers Association aims to be involved in advocating for games somehow as well. There’s also the Video Game Voters Network, of course, which does attempt to mobilize grassroots support, but which is actively led by the Entertainment Software Association, an industry body. [...]
I believe the gathering is more in regards to Governor Spitzer's proposed video game legislation than it is in regards to the VT shooting.

--Kyuzo
Kyuzo,
I was thinking the same thing just a little bit back.

One advantage is that the protest will be in NY and can more easily be tied to the recent NY Mayor's desire for legislation.

Yet, the protestors should still be prepared for a backlash from the less intelligent anti-video game crowds who will misinform and even use and abuse the recent tragedy to slander and deceive the general public about the protest.

nightwng2000
NW2K Software
I wonder what Hal's 'Official ECA' line is on this issue? Personally, only idiots are implementing games in this shooting, so I am against this rally. Bad, bad timing for a show of solidarity, because it is NOT needed at this time.
I agree with most who say this is bad timing. BUT if they can manage to gather a few hundred if not thousand gamers then it would demonstrate something very important to the gaming community a whole. I've contemplated time and time again about protests here on the west side, namely Los Angeles. I myself, debate the point of protesting since its almost useless when comparing to the marches in the 60's.

None the less, if we prove to ourselves that gamers will come when they are called upon then thats a step forward for us.
I think nightwng2000 summed it up, it's a good idea to try to combat the vilification of gamers, but it is way too soon to hold this kind of event. Perhaps in the summer would be better. Make this meeting stand on its own rather than hold it as a response to VT.


Kyuzo Says:
People are focusing too much on the protest angle, here, and not enough on the gathering, itself. It’s the gathering which bears the most meaning, here.

And unfortunately, that's how it will be reported- as a protest.
This event is going to be like any other event that would of normally went on. Do we cancel those to? Do we stop movies with shootings?

The event isnt going to be a protest its going to be an event before the other 20 or so in the next 3 months to show the world that gamers can be outside in a park playing games among other gamers and show case how many of us are not mental. We have been working with big sponsors to support this and its for only one day.

I understand that some negative sh*t has been going down in the last couple weeks but this is to be positive so please find a way to show up and support the event. No one has the facts and they are blaming video games, no one has had an event like this so again no one has the facts and some of you call this a bad idea.

This is better in my opinion as to watching TV and seeing no names to Phil and JT say "well video games made him do this". I respect everyones opinion I just feel this is a start of a new trend to show the world gamers can unite.
I think it would be better if a few gamer charities donated game some money to the school but I hope this works too.
This could turn interesting. Unfortunately, yes, I can see it being turned either good or bad. Basically, it could turn into something uphill. They will have to be very clear on what they want, as said, there will be others who will try to twist it into what they want as propaganda.
I'm afraid the rally will be considered "bad taste." I understand it, but I think the timing is bad, also.
I've played against a number of Empire Arcadia gamers in Tekken tournaments over the last few years. Amongst the fighting game community, they've been one of the foremost organizations fighting for respect and recognition of the immense amount of skill and ability involved in gaming, as well as the overwhelming opportunities to socialize and build a community that this relatively new medium represents.

People are focusing too much on the protest angle, here, and not enough on the gathering, itself. It's the gathering which bears the most meaning, here. In the eyes of the general public, serious video gamers are a strange, solitary people who sit in dark rooms and fester in front of a monitor. Empire Arcadia is attempting to show that this is not the case. They're trying to show that gamers are NOT anti-social, as the media would have the public believe. Quite the contrary, we've built up vast communities of players who help and encourage each other-- not only in video gaming, itself, but in all aspects of life.

I know that, amongst the Tekken community, I've met and played against people from all across North America. Some of those people have become great friends of mine. Others have offered to spend their own time and money to help grow the community as a whole. Even when there are rivalries between players, they tend to be well-natured and jovial, and always with the intention of bettering the game as a whole.

That's what Empire Arcadia is doing, here. They are showing that we are NOT just millions of individuals slumped alone in front of a television. We are a COMMUNITY of people.

--Kyuzo
Hmmm...
Good reasons, bad timing.

Really, as an intelligent person might see it as such, it will more than likely be blasted by the media in the same way the NRA was blasted when they did their thing shortly after Columbine.

Rest assured, good intentions not withstanding, the media and "certain individuals" will do all they can to twist and misinform the public regarding the purpose of the protest.

nightwng2000
NW2K Software
No, this is a unprecedented dumb move. People are going to morn the victims of the VT shooting by standing outside and playing games?

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure that their intentions are good. But I have a feeling that if this "protest" takes place.; these gamers(and gamers in general) are going to be the laughing stock of every media outlet in the country.

All this "protest" will do, is give the public the perception that gamers care more about their games than they do about what happened at VT.

Bottom line, this is just bad PR all around.
Well, i would hope they would take us seriously. They already make fun of gamers in general with the typical stereotypes, but to disregard our concerns completely like that is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, how disrespectful do people think they can be to us?
I hope that this does not get reported as some kind of "whacky" video gaming movement. I would hope that there is someone there who will explain that this is being done just to show support and extrend sympathy to the Virginia Tech victims and families, but that it is a response to the vilification of video gaming as a hobby through the lies and rhetoric of special interest groups and vote-grabbing politicians.

There has to be someone who will summarise the situation and explain: Gamers are being portrayed as loners and anti-social, and video games are being blamed for all of these massacres. We are here to show that people who play video games are normal and that this stereotyping is incorrect.

With a bit of luck, that message will be picked up on by any news networks commenting on it and this will not be reported as "Hundreds of people came to a park today to play video games! Oh, those crazy gamers, what will they do next?! Over to Bob with the weather."
This is a very unprecedented move. Perhaps efforts to create a gamer grassroots movement are working after all.
[...] Part of the reason he’s explaining this, perhaps, is that Joystiq commenters can be critical of such an effort’s effectiveness. The negative attitude some gamers might have toward such campaigns may be why I haven’t seen much of a grassroots gamer movement to speak of yet. Comments on the previously-linked Game Politics article also indicate some sense of how gamers feel about such a movement: Terminator44 Says: “This is a very unprecedented move. Perhaps efforts to create a gamer grassroots movement are working after all.” [...]
I don't see the harm that this will produce, granted i see what people are trying to say COULD happen but it's a stretch. The whole gathering gamers to show that we aren't all like that is a great idea and should be followed through with....BUT....I don't see how them playing their handheld games is going to show that we're all normal. Not to many people would come up with the idea of a mass protest where they all play video games for 10 hours. Although i do like the idea of the gamers protest and if i had heard about it earlier i would have been there with a few hundred of my machinima clan members....we all support it and if you'd like to voice your opinion somewhere else do it here www.htwproductions.com

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