Industry Groups, Watchdogs React to FCC T.V. Violence Report

April 27, 2007
A Federal Communications Commission report which suggests that Congress take action to reduce televised violence has prompted both support and criticism.

As reported by the Associated Press, the FCC believes that Congress could legislate violence on cable, satellite and over-the-air T.V. without violating the First Amendment.

FCC Chairman Kevin Martin wrote:
Congress could provide parents more tools to limit their children's exposure to violent programming in a constitutional way.

The Media Coalition, a trade association which includes the EMA (game retailers) and ESA (game publishers) was quick to criticize the FCC report. Executive Director David Horowitz said:
The FCC is broadcasting the wrong signal. The courts have consistently found restricting violent content is contrary to the First Amendment...  We acknowledge parents’ concerns about what their kids watch but it’s best to preserve the right of adults to choose what they want to see and leave the choice of what children are permitted to see up to parents, not the government.

Meanwhile, the National Institute on Media and Family got behind the FCC report. A NIMF statement said:
The FCC and members of Congress have come to the same conclusion that most families already have – primetime television is becoming more violent and graphic, and parents need simple tools to help them make better media choices for their families...

We share the FCC’s desire for a new ratings system. The current system is alphabet soup to many parents and does not provide them with accurate information regarding a show’s content. A new universal ratings system would vastly help parents make better media choices on movies, television and video games.  

Also supporting the FCC action are Common Sense Media and the Parents Television Council. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is opposed.
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"...and parents need simple tools to help them make better media choices for their families…"

Incorrect. Parents need to start acting like *gasp* parents: that means actually paying attention to what your kids are doing.

@Pyrohazard

Your citizen points have just dropped!

To recycle a classic joke I've used before: Once PTC is done with TV they'll want to edit the violence contained in mathmatics! You know, all that cannibalism what with seven eating nine. @_@

Eh, original wording was better.

At any rate, this would be very disturbing and could easily be used to censor the news, already they've banned images of flag draped coffins, next thing would be for the FCC to claim that body counts are too violent for the people to be informed of, or school shootings which don't help to further the agenda (IE: Kent state style).

It's all simple really: FCC is trying to become the next Bureau Of Morality. Drink the water, kids!

Not only do TVs have V-chips, but EVERY console out now has parental controls.

Ok, we have V-chips, parental locks with codes, a rating system thats been around for awhile. WTF more do you need. Turn the chip on read the rating and lock the program or channel. What do they want a govt. employee to sit down and do it for them? Seriously they even have commercials about parental blocks now. What more can you do.

Hand an idiot a thousand tools show him how to use them if he wont use em it's his fault noone elses.

More proposals to "protect" people from their own ignorance. Bravo.

I like how the Postal games have a warning before the game starts. Postal 2 has a 30 second or so warning before the game starts saying how the makers of the game say people should not reenact anything they see in the game. It says that they believe violence and violent actions belong in video games on not real life.

Even if the ratings were labeled not as individual letters but as "Intended For Ages #+," where '#' is the appropriate age for the end product and is a nice 1" x 1.5" mark on the front of the box, it would still not matter. Some parents still won't pay attention.
Some people just can not be pleased with any type of progress or safeguards made to address their concerns.

Sometimes, it seems like some people wants the government to control them.

Good god, how can people be so bloody stupid that the ESRB rating are somehow incomprehensible? Shouldn't such rank stupidity have evolved out of the gene pool by now?

Okay, maybe E for everybody, T for Teen, M for Mature are to difficult for lazy ass parents to remember so let's try smiley face stickers instead or color coding them.

laws aren't tools.

I'd like to add that the fact that the report itself is more than 2 years overdue and STILL contains so much vagueness, well I think that speaks volumes.

Aside from the power button/plug/circuit breaker, isn't every TV sold in the US in the past 8 years V-chip enabled? Is there not a rating on every TV program?

Parents *have* tools. Many are too lazy to *use* them. NIMF, once again, need to get off their high horse. They need to stop campaigning for more tools and invest their money in teaching parents how to use the tools already available to them.

Honestly. There is a function built into every TV now sold to block any program based on arbitrary, preset criteria that are a part of every TV broadcast. What more tools do you need?

By the way, I love the Dutch TV rating for sexual content: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dutch_rating_sex.jpg

The FCC seems to be coming more and more under the influence of Christian Enangelists lately (like much of the US government). Note the Christian leanings of the NIMF & PTC as well.

Oh, I'm shure their rating system will be sooo much better. Really, we've been with the same rating system for some time now, it would be plain stupid to go and change it now. What is the mind set behind this any way? Is the NIMF and the FCC so full of them selves that they think "Oh yes, we changed the ratings letters, but because we came up with them they MUST be VASTLY superior to the previous system!" and knowing the NIMF, if they changed the ratings, if the Video games dosn't have Elmo in it, INSTA-M or what ever letter they change the Mature rating to.

Wow, it makes me glad that we don't have to deal with this stuff in Canada. Are politicians are fighting over legalizing weed, and whether or not to stick to Kyoto.

“Congress could provide parents more tools to limit their children’s exposure to violent programming”

"and parents need simple tools to help them make better media choices for their families…"

And amazingly a simple tool already exists and is present in almost every home, and it's fail over device does already exists in every home.
With this amazing tool it is very simple to operate, and most parents won't even need the instruction manual. (some may). This amazing tool has a 100% accuracy in preventing the viewing of material you find objectionable on TV, and can even prevent your children from playing video games you don't approve!!! This tool even lets you find programs which you do not find objectionable.
What's more is this amazing tool even has a fail over system installed in every home. While the fail over system does prevent objectionable material from being view it is limited in that it prevents any program viewing.
And in addition this amazing tool comes pretty much standard on every television set on the market. You can even buy special ones which work with other devices such as the Radio.

This amazing tool is called, the remote control, and with it's Circuit breaker fail over device ANY programming can be switched off.

"...parents need simple tools to help them make better media choices for their families…"

How about the parents go buy some ball gloves and a baseball and go play catch. It doesn't get that much more simple. Do we need to make laws that say how long parents need to interact with their children?

"... and parents need simple tools to help them make better media choices for their families…"

Ofcourse, NIMF fails to realize that regulation is not a "tool"... tools are things that you can choose to use or not, they give you the power of choice. However, gov't regulation gives you NO such choice. it FORCES a choice upon people by limiting what they can and can not see. The current systems in place, such as the rating systems and V-chips are tools... gov't regulation is no tool...

Funny... just the other night i saw commercials which advertise how to set parental controls on a TV and making use of the V-chip... now, when parents have the power to block certain shows and channels, why would they need anything else to "help them" keep their children from watching bad TV? Yeah, they don't need anything except to know the sytems are there...

ok ok it's way to early to be typing coherently... sigh

Well in a way this is good. FCC attacks TV. People like their violent TV but hate violent video games. Once they shit down the FCC on this the gaming community can simply cite these recent developments as a precedent. I realize it's apples and oranges, but the public opinion seems not to see the difference.

If I hadn't just woken up a little while ago, I would be bleeding rage.

I really, really, do hate the FCC.

There's a common sense media? Someone should send them to all the people who want to make video game legislation.

The FCC basically lied throughout their entire report.

Their proposal is a violation of the First Amendment, straight and simple.

Basically, they're LARPing 1984.

Ok, these commissions could make new rating systems till the cows come home but if THEY don’t take the time to give the parents information on the systems and the Parents don’t take time to learn it then what’s the bloody point.

There’s nothing wrong with the rating system as it is. If people don’t understand it then teach them about it. Don’t just ditch it and start over. That basically defines “counterproductive”.

Of course the Media Coalition has the right idea, as usual. They offer freedom of choice while those other organizations… well, “if we don’t think it’s appropriate then you’re not allowed to watch it.” Those dictating bastar…..

"Congress could provide parents more tools to limit their children’s exposure to violent programming"

They could make the off button a bit bigger?

Good thing they passed that law requiring TVs to have v-chips.

Too bad that hasn't been effective because nobody freakin' cares about (or uses) the damn things. JUST LIKE THE TV CONTENT RATINGS SYSTEM.

Why do the stupid censor lovers act like all this violent media is being handed out for free to kids? Parents are buying the video games. Parents are paying for the televisions and the cable channels. I seem to recall that when I was a kid it wasn't my choice if I got to watch a scary movie on HBO or stay up late for Fantasy Island ... it was my mom or dad's decision. Has parenting changed so much in the last decade or two that the government needs to step in?

Liberty used to mean something in America.

"The current system is alphabet soup to many parents and does not provide them with accurate information regarding a show’s content."

What's so hard about "VDSL", or "14+", or better yet, "VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED"?

The FCC is on the one hand treating each media type differently (mostly ignoring the MPAA/RIAA while bashing the ESRB), yet it would like to see a common ratings system. But how do you enforce a universal system, when you can't profess universal enforcement of the rules currently in place?

Your choices are:

Simple ratings, that give a brief warning. It's up to the parent to pay attention. Result: not much info, but not very confusing ratings.

Complex ratings: a 30 second warning in front of every TV show, detailing any and all possible content, just in case you are offended by any of it. Result: parents tune out, and let their kids watch anyway, because it's just too damn complicated to figure out.

That's what would happen if you tried to apply ESRB-style ratings to television.
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The problem is that we need to get the word to the parents who don't use the tools currently implemented. More than likely they don't come to a forum like this to try to understand.

One word.

V-Chip.

The FCC has already stuck it's nose into non-over-the-air (ie non-government regulated) broadcasts, that are most certainly not forced upon the public. Public airwaves are broadcast to everyone, you don't have a choice in what you receive.

Cable on the other hand, is 100% a consumer product. If you don't like it, lock the channel, block the show, or stop buying that service. The technology is there, use it.
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Personally, I do think it's too bad that TV can't use the MPAA system. Actually, I'm one of the people who believe you can rate games, TV and movies with one system. Given that, I'd take the ESRB, but the MPAA has more mindshare with the general public.

Honestly, I don't see how you can argue for a new rating system. The current one is not that complicated. It would be a monumental task to make it less complicated. As it stands, some (many?) parents aren't bothering to learn the current system (which is the real problem). Is there any reasonable indication they'd learn a new one? Remember, the MPAA won't let you use theirs.

Okay, that didn't work. Let's try this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzyyCxvZHmY

~Otaku-Man

Trouble is that Violence has never been considered obscene, and unless it's deemed "Obscene", then it really doesn't fall under speech restrictions.

So far, there are only two things that are truly considered obscene: sex and snuff. Snuff in case you aren't aware is the video footage of someone killing someone else or killing themself. Either way it shows an actual death that is not simulated.

Considering that there was public video footage of Saddam Hussein's hanging, that kind of puts the snuff thing into question, not to mention war footage.

The trouble is that the FCC is basically saying to Congress. "If you wanna you know, censor violence in any shape or form, pfft, go ahead! We don't care! We think it's good to never show violence to adults or people!"

Granted, those weren't their exact words, but it eventually says to Congress that they can censor violence legally and not meet Constitutional challenges.

Likewise, this is bullcrap.

And then there are the organizations that openly support this statement from the FCC:

NIMF
CSM
and the PTC

By supporting the FCC, they are essentially saying that censorship of free speech is okay. What more tools could they possibly provide for parents who want to limit what their kids watch? And what effects will this have on the parents? What if this effects what THEY want to watch?

It also makes me wonder who's in charge of the FCC. Frankly, I think Family Guy nailed it the best.

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzyyCxvZHmY[/URL]

~Otaku-Man

Ya know. My wife and I, as parents, know what the ratings all mean. What do you mean parents can't understand the ratings we have now???? Not to mention we have sat tv. Ya know what, turn the freaking parental controls on! It's not that difficult. My kids can only view channels like Nick or Disney. If my oldest wants to watch something outside those channels. He has to tell me what channel it's on and once I check the rating or movie information, I'll enter the password and he can watch it in his room. Don't give me that crap that the Gov. needs to tell me how to take care of my kids. Why don't you get off your lazy ass yourself.

Ha Ha that was a good one right there COme on though a parent actully being a parent *gasp* execuse me but they have Jobs! the goverment should step in that way they can have their 5 minutes of peace Jeez! dont you care at all about the parents?

*end sarcasm*

[...] There are daunting dilemmas on all sides of this debate…not to mention the fiery blog commentary from adults (and kids themselves!) weighing in on this issue. Parents like myself are anti-censorship, but vehemently ticked that violence is seeping into kids’ psyches with reckless abandon. [...]

[...] I hopped over to GamePolitics and noticed this article about an FCC report recommending Congressional legislation over violence in the media.  My personal views go along these lines: American media has too much violence and not enough sex whereas European media has too much sex and not enough violence.  Actually, European media has just enough sex, but not enough violence.  It speaks to how we, as Americans, are afraid of our sexual natures while Europeans are afraid of their violent natures.  At any rate, we could use less violence in our media however, and this is the huge however, there is no possible way that the government should regulate it.  First they came for our decapitations and all that. [...]

How irresponsible and STUPID do you have to be to make congress take action so your kids don't see violent TV when it's as easy as opening the menu button and using a god damn V-Chip. How long has that been around now? Late 90's? Nope! Thanks to the small population of parents who are complete retards everyone in America has to lose their right to Free of the Press and Freedom of Speech. Thank you!

"Congress could provide parents more tools to limit their children’s exposure to violent programming in a constitutional way."

Coming soon: The Remote Control Parental Protection Bill

Remotes will be required to have the following buttons added onto them:

Off
More Off
Extremely Odd
Beyond Off
Never Going On Again
Blow Up TV
Eject Plug
Eject Manual Buttons
Taser


Honestly now. Is it really that hard to understand that it's the manufacturer's that should provide more options if the market actually wants them. I do mean the market, not the NIMF and friends who are the vocal minority.

Second question: Does the NIMF realize that their acronym sounds exactly like nymph?
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