V-Tech Rampage Creator Demands Payment to Remove Game

"I don’t give a flying f*** about him or his free speech. Two of MY friends were killed in Norris, and because their lives actually meant something to me, I don’t think this game is just “in poor taste,” I think it’s disgusting."

Not to defend the VT shooter, but he didn't give a "flying fuck" about the people that taunted him growing up, or picked on him..etc....Didn't care about their "free speech", or "freedom of choice"....and he thought they were disgusting people too.

Know what might have stopped all of this in the beginning? If he we all learned to just IGNORE shit that drives us mad.

I was TORTURED all growing up.....but I like to think I survived it, and I learned to ignore it and I'm leading a great life.

Those same feelings you're spewing that you don't care about someone else or their freedoms is EXACTLY what got us in this situation in the first place....

So for all of you up in arms...learn what "peace" is really all about.

I don't give a flying f*** about him or his free speech. Two of MY friends were killed in Norris, and because their lives actually meant something to me, I don't think this game is just "in poor taste," I think it's disgusting.

Oh and by the way,
I'm tired of people making a fool of themselves and putting themselves out of the line to think of retarded ways to get this man in jail? WHAT? Nonconsent of what being killed portrayed in a video... what?! You really can't get more ignorant than that. How about you funnel your anger into more productive causes than looking like a complete idiot. This man is not breaking any rules. And what, freedom of speech should be taken away?

WOW. You guys are almost as idiotic as this guy.

JJ: The Starvin' Marvin' episode wasn't a current event (it was, but it was just an event that wasn't really hugely significant and sensetive), and it didn't really mock them. However, this game is just a discrace towards those who were killed, injured, and those who knew anyone in the first two groups personally.

I am an instructor and a student at Virginia Tech. Without a doubt, the past few weeks has given me a life's worth of experience and emotions, and much to ponder.
In the days and weeks following the tragedy here at Virginia Tech, we experienced a wonderful outpouring of emotions from around the world. It's almost as if time stood still while everyone offered their open arms to those of us in need. It was a wonderfully comforting time. It's such a shame that it had to end.
I completely agree with many of the posts here that the freedom of expression, of thought, and of intellect must certainly be preserved. I only question the perverted minds creating such entertainment venues, and the totally sick people supporting this effort.
If you don't like the game, don't play it. If you don't like the movie, don't go to see it; and if you don't like the book, don't read it. If it's not played, it won't be sold. If people don't go to violent movies, they won't be made. It's that simple.
I guess I long for a day when the purpose of free speech is to express opinions, not taunt emotions. When reaching out to comfort those in need would last longer than a week.
There is suffering around the world. Couldn't we all focus a little more effort on ending this suffering, and and a little less time on these perverted thoughts.

VTstudent, no I think you spoke very well. I've had personal tragedies myself, and like you, I do find it difficult to watch those kinds of movies these days.

That said, I still support this guy, horror movies, and violent games, etc. We, by our nature, are a very violent species, and I believe that a valuable and cathartic outlet is poking fun at ourselves, no matter how horrible the subject matter. Doesn't mean that it feels nice when we're the ones who are the subject matter, but it doesn't mean that we should try to stop it either.

If we personally don't like it, we don't have to pay attention to it.

However, since we have one of you from VT on the site, I'm sorry you had to go through what you went through. It truly sucks.

Maybe too many people playing the game used up his monthly bandwidth? If so, that's a shame. I don't think people should even give this game the time of day, even out of curiosity.

Maybe his server provider has shut down his page? I don't know.

But I do hope its down for good.

Saying it was free speech is the lamest excuse for assholism that I've yet heard.

Good riddance to bad rubbish!

@ RandomHero

No one thought of creating a VT game? Wrong. I'm sure many did prior to this. I'd bet most who considered it opted not to.

And... you think it's funny to mock people for mourning lost loved ones?

Also, "most people" aren't saying the game should be taken off Newgrounds or wherever else it's hosted now. Most people are in support of free speech, despite how repulsive it is in this case.

I'm Laughing at this story, because a smartass has done something no one thought of yet create a game disgracing the mouring of people and to make it worse he wants money. but i agree with most it should be taking down because of the problems it is causing still he is a smartass for wanting money and getting fame for that

I totally and utterly concur with what Monkeychow says. Do I think this guy's an asshole, a little bit. Do I think what he did was wrong? No. We live in a society that contradicts itself constantly, we deem this bad, and then go ahead and watch extremely-violent movies and games like scarface and GTA. Whats the difference? If it hits so close to home, don't pay attention to it. You people make a big deal out of everything and it sickens me. People starve everyday in poor countries, and people get shot in ghetto everyday, but no one seems to care or feel sorry for them...this is just all a load of crap~

[...] « Who dares to say that blogs do not have an impact on political campaigning? V-Tech Tragedy as a Flash Game May 16th, 2007 Sooner or later it was going to happen. Unfortunately it happened sooner. A flashgame about the V-Tech rampage was uploaded on Newgrounds. As GamePolitics points out, the game is rendered in a documentary style, similar to that of the highly controversial Super Columbine Massacre RPG. There’s one difference though: As controversial Super Columbine Massacre RPG might have been, its creator at least tried to make a thoughtful attempt and had the decency to wait six years with the release – and he didn’t give in to the increasing industrialization of all art but tried to convey his viewpoint. It was dangerous in a thought provoking way. I can comprehend where the (often ill-informed) critics are coming from: Games inherent the trivialisation of human life since the survival of one’s avatar depends on the player’s ability (that’s why there never was – and hopefully never will be – a game about Anne Frank) and due to their save function they won’t let the player feel all the consequences of their action. That said: A mature medium should be allowed to make comments on serious issues (it should not only be allowed to but see this as a pressing duty). But not only is the game industry notoriously insecure about itself, perpetuating the same juvenile concepts again and again, but there is also the sensationalist mainstream media, which can’t tell independently developed games and industry-produced software apart (yet to speak of politicians who use them as an excuse for strikter legislation) – with often unfavorable consequences for the industry. Still: Should this stop people from trying to critically comment serious events through the medium of a digital game? It would be giving up before trying and giving in to the political economy of the contemporary mainstream mediasphere. The V-Tech game though is just plain, idiotic provocation. It’s evacuated of any thought, any reflection, any common sense. A fact that is underlined by the fact that its creator started to hold the public hostage and offered to take it offline if people pay him $1000 US – an apology can be expected for $3000 US. As Kotaku put it: “Free speech and free expression are great. Just make sure you’ve got something to say.” [...]

I can not believe what I am seeing & hearing. We cant even start healing-and now this? When is it going to end!? All this support for this $%^*@ who made this $&*^%! Free speach or not! I ask only this-take all of your exra time and energy & support us-not disgrace us! Even donate to a charity or volunteer somewhere!

[...] Virginia Tech Simulation Sparks Controversy [...]

i can't get over some off these reponses.. saying that u want to "kill" him and stuff like that.. sounds like a typical american response.. "do as i say or i'll kill you" what a joke..

Idiots. This guy couldn't give a shit about free speech, his only intention is to piss people off, and offend people who were just involved in a school massacre. Like I said, if some Nazi skinhead had made a game where you have to kill as many Jews as you can, you'd all be talking about how he's an "anti-semitic asshole".

As sad as it is to see something like this coming out of gaming, I have to admit he had the right to make it. In the future I hope aspiring game designers will take a step back and choose to be a little more respectful to the families and people involved in incidences which they wish to recreate or documentize within a game. This particular game is obviously done in poor taste, while games like Water for Darfur and SCMRPG are made with more of a message.

So many valid points here. Freedom of speech. As offensive as that may be, here in Aus we don't have it. Cherish that right America. Me, there is some Muslim extremist s*** I would gladly see burnt, but I have not grown up with a protected freedom of speech.

I also remember seeing on stickdeath the prisoners at Guantanemo Bay and them getting shot etc. I know the VTech slaughter is a grave trgedy, but here in Aus we don't have the right to bear arms either. Seems like you have to take the good with the bad.

This type of pressure will hopefully see my fellow Sydneysider reflect a bit, and maybe donate any monies to an appropriate charity, although I doubt he will get anything.

Most Aussies hold yankers to be wankers.
Looks like they are right.
Let the morons self-destruct!!

yikes...with all the wanna be B/s here you think they know sarcasm when they see it.....the donation thing is cute...prehaps it takes a real arse to understand another...

Actually the fund raiser thing is not a bad idea and to get ride of the game critics you donate the money to the family of the victims. Although can say that the game is a little taste less. But some less offense would do. But the idea for fund raising is still a good one.

lol no one wants to get rid of flash games.....jebus

oh and I forgot to add, this leaves a foul taste, and is pathetic, if he really cared about his game he wouldn't offer this bounty, his game is not worth $1000 anyway.

i have nothing against him. why well i think its because i could care less about his game i know its about the tragidy but if people want to pay him because they are offended i will sit on the fence and laugh at them. sure the v tec shooting is not funny but people willing to shell out cash to remove something they sought out and got offended by that is laughable. let him collect there cash, and watch as he go's laughing to the bank after removing it, then watch as he pumps out a new ver or something close to that rinse and repeat.

These comments are spamtastic. I sent a email to the creator to do a interview and he called me a leech. What irony!