Florida Attorney General Looking into Wii Version of Manhunt 2

June 6, 2007 -
Is Manhunt 2 worse on the Wii? 

GamePolitics has confirmed via multiple sources that Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum (R) has expressed concern over the impending release of Rockstar's controversial game on Nintendo's next-gen console.

For McCollum, the issue seems to be the use of the Wii's motion-sensitive controller. It is widely anticipated that players will be required to simulate slashing, stabbing or clubbing motions in order to play Manhunt 2 on Nintendo's popular system.

McCollum apparently said as much in an on-camera interview Monday with Fox News reporter Orlando Salinas. The interview hasn't aired so far. It was originally slated to run this evening, but late yesterday Salinas told GamePolitics he thought it might run closer to Manhunt 2's July 9th release date.

Among those interviewed by Salinas for the report was anti-game attorney Jack Thompson, who has been beating the drum about Manhunt 2 - and especially the Wii version - for several weeks. A Thompson letter sent to both McCollum and Florida Governor Charlie Crist (R) on May 12th read in part:
Florida retailers are scheduled to sell a very violent video game called Manhunt 2 which will be available, remarkably, for “play” on the kids-friendly Nintendo Wii gaming platform.

The Wii device does not utilize traditional push button game controllers but instead utilizes hand-held motion capture devices... It is a training device. 

Despite several calls to his office, it remains unclear whether or not Gov. Crist will take a position on Manhunt 2. However, it would appear that Jack Thompson has gotten the Florida Attorney General's attention.

According to our sources, A.G. McCollum is not focusing at all on the PS2 or PSP versions of the game.  Instead, McCollum is looking into the Wii version due to its motion-controlled simulation of violence. "That's where they're kicking up their heels," one source said.

In February of this year GamePolitics asked Nintendo officials if they were concerned about potential backlash over Manhunt 2's appearance on the Wii. Beth Llewelyn, Sr. Director of Corporate Communications told GP at the time:
Manhunt 2 is not developed or published by Nintendo. It is one of many titles released by third party publishers for our system that appeal to people of all ages and interests. Just as with movies, television, and books, different video games appeal to - and are appropriate for - different audiences.

A knowledgable video game industry source has told GamePolitics that Nintendo actively pursued a Wii version of Manhunt 2.
[Nintendo exec] Reggie [Fils-Aime] spent a fair amount of time soliciting [former Take Two CEO] Paul Eibeler to get the game on the Wii… Reggie did it to introduce more M-rated content, as he was afraid too many people would pigeon-hole [the Wii] as a kid machine.

It is unknown what - if any - official action A.G. McCollum might take. Florida has no video game law on the books and Manhunt 2, violent though it may be, would appear to enjoy the same constitutional protections afforded to other games.

For his part, Thompson has urged Gov. Crist and Attorney General McCollum to have Manhunt 2 declared a public nuisance under Florida law. But the anti-game attorney tried - and failed - with that legal gambit in his 2006 bid to block distribution of another Rockstar game, Bully.

UPDATE: GP has received the following comment from A.G. McCollum's Press Secretary:
Attorney General Bill McCollum is concerned about any games which may instill violence in children, particularly games that encourage children to engage in violent behavior, even in simulation. He believes it is important to help protect children from influences which may introduce violence into their lives and stresses the importance of parental involvement in the efforts to keep these influences out of our homes and away from our families.

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I'm actually kinda bugged about Manhunt's Wii features too.

I mean, interactivity is one thing but.... come on.

*sigh* how many times must it be said...

VIDEO GAMES ARE NOT JUST FOR KIDS ANYMORE!

It will be interesting to see this develop. I have stated before that Manhunt 2 on the Wii will put a whole new meaning to the phrase "murder simulator"

I for one do not care as I will not buy any game by Rockstar and will not allow my kids to play any of the same. (granted my oldest kid is three and would not be able to grasp the consept of playing any of the games)

Nintendo is in the right. How do you get more intest in T and M titles being developed for the Wii? You get the most controversial M rated game to date on the console. A brilliant marketing move and if Manhunt 2 sells well there will be a lot more games geard to older teens and adults on the Wii.

It is strange to note that Nintendo has changed a lot since the NES. Then they would stop developers from putting a lot of risque content into games. Now they welcome it.

A side note and a little off topic: Is it just me or does anyone else see a much better potential fro FPS games on the Wii as the Wiimote and Nunchuck combo emulates the mouse and Keyboard combo better than the PS3 and 360 controller?

Well, you make slashing, clubbing, and poking motions in Twilight Princess. Is that too a training simulator?

People are just way to fucking uptight anymore. If you don't want your kids playing it, then don't let them play it, that simple. Retailers have cracked down rather heavily, compared to it's past efforts anyway, to keep inappropriate video games out of the hands of minors. Hell, even I, a 23 soon 24 year old male with almost a full beard was carded during purchase of a few Mature rated games. Also, if I'm not mistake, Nintendo Wii offers Parental Control to block video games that they deem too mature for their child gamers of the house.

If you don't like it, don't play it. If you don't approve, don't play it. If you don't want your kid playing it, don't let them play it. But don't try and stop or ban actual mature adults from playing the game because you have a problem with it.

They can all kiss my ass, especially "Hack" Thompson. Fuck 'em all.

So this is all speculation at this point, right? No one knows for sure what use they will make of the Wii motion sensitivity, if at all for that matter. Man, someone change the channel. I swear I've seen this episode before. And it wasn't that good the first time.

I find it interesting that Nintendo actually pursued the game. Still, I think it'll take more than Manhunt 2 and a few other M rated games to actually make the Wii seem like less of the kiddie console. Not that there aren't a few Wii games, that I'm interested in. That new Zelda game looks AWESOME!

@ Keaton2008

Then..... Don't play it. It's that simple. Don't play it. Don't buy it for your eight year old. Don't give Take Two/Rockstar any money. And they won't make any more games. That's how things work in a capitalist market-place.

Personally I don't have any intention of picking up Manhunt 2. Not because it's violent or obscene, but because it doesn't interest me. Sorry, but it doesn't. Then again, I'm this close to picking up Bully just to kind of stick it to JT and his cronies (despite a lack of interest in actually playing the game).

I for one am thrilled that Nintendo actively pursued getting this game on the Wii. I am definitely picking it up, as it is actually a good game, and I want to see the sales do well to encourage other developers to create mature games for the Wii. I think it's a great platform with perhaps more potential than anything else right now.

Ok, first off, yes, I do see Wii as being an FPS console, but they seriously need to work on the controls a little better, that's why I hope for good things from Metroid Prime 3.

Secondly... Jack wants this game declared a public nuisance... isn't he kinda... banned from doing that, due to the terms of his settlement?

My guess is he'll just express his disgust at the game, and move on. Especially since he's asking them to broadcast it closer to the release date. He tells parents to be wary, criticizes the company, and that's the end of it.

Plus it gives him time to look at the game, realize there's no pr0n, and see that there's nothing he can do short of informing parents.

Of course if he doesn't, I'll be very disappointed...
-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...

@ E. Zachary Knight

"It is strange to note that Nintendo has changed a lot since the NES. Then they would stop developers from putting a lot of risque content into games. Now they welcome it."

That's probably because they realize that more people playing video games are older. They also realize they have a reputation as a kids console. They want to attract more adult players.

Not sure having Manhunt 2 alone will work as there will also be a version on the PS3. This could easily back-fire and make publishers even more afraid to release M rated games on the Wii. Especially with the sudden interest in the game, before its release, in the legal community. I think it's time for Reggie to tread lightly. And carry a BIG stick.

@ Gameboy

Bully is actually a decent game, albeit a little on the short side. They, the media and Jack Thompson, really over did it with that game. There really is hardly anything controversial in it at all, I mean no more than your average Teen comedy movie nowadays. I mean before they game even came out they were calling it a "Columbine Simulator" and stupid shit like that. It was just complete bullshit, and the game is extremely tame, especially considering it's makers. It's a fun game, and at this point in time would be really worth picking up since it should be selling pretty cheaply now. I personally recommend it.

first off i want to say, with the nunchuk and wiimote is there a better Piano wire assassination simulater imaginable heh

but seriously i too am glad Nintendo actively persued the game, and i have no intention of buying the game, but should it do well it will help Nintendo get a broader range of games on their system

@ Zachery Knight, While Thompson himself can't petition a court to have the game be declared a public nuisence he is allowed to ask other people to do that for him (however thats signifigently harder to do then it sounds as most other lawyers see Jack as a hack and want nothing to do with him)

appearently Jack hasnt played Far Cry on the Wii yet

So, I assume that the deal with Take2 and Jack to stop harassing them about GTAIV was only applicable to GTA IV, or did this new attempt of Jack violated the said contractual deal?

Wii has parental controls. Point that out. Problem solved. Oh, wait, Thompson and others won't care. Seriously, how much more control can be given to parents? All the control in the world won't matter if parents won't exercise it.

DAMN I have to pre order myself 2 copies for the Wii ASAP. ^_^ I love controversial games.

Yeah, GamePolitics. Wasn't Jack Thompson barred for harrasing Take Two games ? Could you contact T2 about that (We know you will not get a civil answer from Jack)

Wow, Jack Thompson can't fight Rockstar anymore so he gets someone else to do it?

Hey as long they plug their ears and scream "LA LA LA LA" every time Jack tries to give them advice they might actually get something done, scary.

Either way it was smart of Nintendo to get Rockstar to produce games for the Wii, Sony and Microsoft were already pulling the kiddie card on the Wii even though it was kicking their ass and now even Microsoft is trying to rip off of Nintendo.

@ Tony

I never said that. but I do agree. He is not breaking the terms of the settlement as he is asking the Attorney General to make the statements while he sits back a claims support.

But maybe you are responding to my comments about the interesting developments in the works.

Man, only in Florida. :P

Doesn't surprise me, especially with Jack involved. In fact, it probably would not have shown up on McCollum's radar at all if Jack hadn't told him about it. However, if Bully was any indication, a move to delcare it a public nuisance is doomed to failure. Jack is really getting to be a real-life equivalent of Wile E. Coyote or Berg Katse (brownie points to all you old school anime fans if you know who I'm talking about): constantly trying the same tactics each and every time, failing miserably, yet somehow manages to escape or stay alive to come back to try more or less the same thing over and over again.

It's also splitting hairs with that legal agreement with Take Two, trying to shift the focus on Nintendo (presumably because of it's family-friendly perception). However, Take Two would be well within their rights to lay the smack-down on Jack for this. He ought to tread lightly.

i know thompson cant attempt to have the game blocked himself but it wouldnt surprise me if he convinces people to do it for him. while imo the game might not be in the best taste, it still deserves the same protection as any other game out there and shouldnt be alienated just because of the wii's control system.

All this worry over Manhunt 2, and yet Godfather: Blackhand Edition came without notice. In that, you already have motions to beat people with blunt objects, beating people with your fists, choking the life out of people, sneaking up behind them and snapping their neck or choking them and gun aiming with the pointer, so why was this game so completely ignored?

I have my thoughts.
A) The idea that the inclusion of a knife makes it worse, but that seems very arbitrary.
B) Being a sequel makes it more attention getting, and no one had any idea what to expect before Godfather's release.
C) Jack Thompson does not care about violence any more, it is only because Rockstar is involved that he is forcing it to be a big issue.
D) It is based off a Movie/Book license, therefore, being a game only comes secondary.
E) No one actually knows Godfather exists.

Also, so we see how effective the Thompson agreement is. A loophole that lets him carry on his legal agenda as long as he prods a person into it with his usual overstatements and ignorance, then sit back and nod while saying “Hey, -I- am not taking you to court.” Ah well. I doubt he really cares about the agreement anyways.

Didn't Jacky say the same thing about dualshock or something?

If the FL AG is investigating a Take Two game, you can bet your bottom dollar that Jack is in the loop somewhere ... and thus violating the spirit, if not the letter of his agreement with Take Two.

Regarding the Wii and it's controls. Close investigation reveals that the motions used to swing the controller like a tennis racket could be interpreted as swinging a weapon like a sword. The same motion necessary to swing a baseball bat translates to swinging a club-like weapon. Throwing a baseball? Baseballs are similar to grenades. Rolling a bowling ball ... grenades again. And pointing a finger in blame? Just like aiming a gun at their heart.

It's time to ban EVERYTHING that involves hand motions, 'cause most of them simulate somebody getting hurt.

And so it begins.

Personally, I hope Jack takes this to court against Nintendo. Nintendo's lawyers have a tendancy to absolutely crush anybody who bothers them. It will be amusing to watch JT run away with his tail between his legs.

@ Gil

Yeah, if I recall correctly he claimed that it gave pleasure to the players and promoted them to perform these acts in real life due to the pleasure they received when doing it in the game. Or some sort of crazy nonsense like that that only makes sense in his psychotic head of his.

I don't see what the concern is. Just b/c you're picking up a non-blunt object and swinging it around it is suddenly a concern?

Everyday children will find branches and start swinging around, making "swish" sounds to emulate the idea that they are swinging a sword from these cartoons that display protagonists weilding blades.

What is the difference if it is in front of the screen? I find it _extremely_ idiotic that because it is on a video game that there is some concern. Kids imitate sword motions, but that doesn't mean they'll have the strength to realize that it is dangerous to weild one in actuality nor will they be aware of the damage it can cause.
How about someone actually teaches their child that you don't swing things around wildly first, instead of raising "concerns"?

I guess some people are very stupid to not realize that you teach a child about never swinging a kitchen knife around, before you raise a "concern" about it being used in a video game.

Even more surprising, is why worry about the game, when it is an M rated game. If you are a parent, then keep your child away from it if you rather not have them try to get their hands on it.

Anyway, it is a fact that children will pick up a knife, out of curiosity or because they want to imitate something they saw on TV. That's why you teach children about real things first, than just simply worrying about their video game habits exposing them to it. It is more likely they'll see it from TV first and/or your own use.

As some mentioned earlier, Zelda and other games already used stabbing motions and such.... -.-

Anyway, I think I may have typed too much.

Not sure having Manhunt 2 alone will work as there will also be a version on the PS3.
PS2 and PSP, but not PS3. The only next-gen system getting the game is Wii.

I can't wait until Hack gets his. Loopholes won't protect his foolish agenda forever.

i could've sworn Thompson was under agreement to NOT do this kind of thing. does this mean he'll be back in court again some more with R*?

It is a shame that Nintendo warned everyone that the game was not meant for kids. I think it was in March.

With that being said.. What problem could there be... That kids may play a game that Nintendo don't want them to play, with a rating that almost prohibit children from purchasing it?

Three things.

1. It is the parents job to police their kids interests. Not the country, state, city, or county is responsible for any of this.
2. If the parents have done their job properly, the Nintendo Wii has excellent parental controls that if set up correctly, when Johnny 8 year old pops Manhunt 2 in to the Wii, it should not play because it exceeds the rating set up by the parent.
3. Jack Thompson and Bill McCollum are not mine or your kids Dads. In fact they are both idiots. So this is not their responsibility to police my kids.

I am a 38 year old employed professional in the IT industry and a parent of 2 kids. I know what my job is. It is to be involved in my kids interests. So apparently you Floridians need help from your local govt. to raise your children?

Idiots.

@ CleverConveyence

Oh, my bad. Thanks for catching that. But my point remains valid. Maybe more so now as PS2 is probably more wide spread than the PS3. If Manhunt 2 was going to be a Wii exclusive game it would do a much better job promoting the Wii as an adult console.

Think of it like this. The PS2 and PSP versions sell 3 million copies each (this is more than likely understating the number that will be sold but this is an example). However the Wii version sells 1 million copies. Sounds like a decent haul, but from a developer stand point it is not. Take into account the cost of developing the motion sensitive controls and other general differences in programing for the Wii. If the Wii version doesn't preform, all Nintendo will have done is ensure they won't see any M rated games for a long time.

Considering how hot the video game topic is right now, maybe it doing poorly would be better. I'm not saying that the Wii shouldn't have M rated games, but that right now seems like a bad time for them to come out. With Virgina Tech still fresh in people's minds and the New York bills still on deck, waiting a year to release these games (at least on the Wii) might be more beneficial to our cause.

I don't agree with censorship and have no actual problem with the game coming out, but basic strategy dictates you don't give your enemy ammo.

Heh, Hack missed his chance at maoning about M rated games on the "kid friendly" wii - The Godfather anyone?

Probably the best version of it too, thanks to the controls.

From John Bruce's letter:

"The American Psychological Association in 2005 proved the causal nexus between adolescent/ teen play of violent games and increased aggression. Interactive media teach violent behaviors, and that was found to be true before Wii came along. "

No they haven't. He just lied to the Governor. But then, that's not a surprise.

Oddly enough, there are other genres of media material which TEACH violent attitudes and behaviors. Why isn't he demanding kids be protected from that? Oh, wait, it's because it's his RELIGION that promotes bigotry and hate against whole groups of humans. And, hey, if that leads to violence against individuals in those groups, well, though, 'cuz it's his right to teach it. And, hey, if there are kids who commit suicide because they are verbally and mentally abused by other kids who've been taught that bigotry and hate? Tough. John Bruce's God says they should be dead anyway.

"The Federal Trade Commission has found that 42% of the time retailers will sell ‘Mature-rated” video games to kids under 17. Thus, if Manhunt 2 gets a “Mature” rating (it deserves a much more restrictive “Adults-Only” rating) then it will be sold to minors in our State."

Of course, he fails to mention that the FTC has performed similar studies for numerous years and each year, the failure rate drops. Hence, retailers are improving. Hence, he has misinformed the Governor by not telling the WHOLE Truth.

Also, there is a difference between "will" and "may". He has NO facts to back up his claim that it 'will" be sold to minors because it hasn't happened yet. Nor does he have a comparison as to how many copies were sold to non-minors versus minors. Therefore, his claims are, once again, misleading.

Also note, his opinion that the game SHOULD receive any rating, M or AO or anything else, is just that: HIS OPINION. While he attempted, and failed, to force his opinion as being the deciding factor as to whether to determine the game Bully as being appropriate or inappropriate for other people's children, it still comes down to the fact that it is merely HIS OPINION. Florida, let alone the US, is NOT a dictatorship run by the Dictator John Bruce "Jack" Thompson, as much as he wants it to be. Frankly, I believe his religious media should be rated AO for promoting bigotry, hate, and violent attitudes that lead to abuse of all types against others. But that is merely MY OPINION. He should no more have the power to dictate what others find appropriate or inappropriate for there children than anyone else should have the same power against him.

As to the studies once again touted by him. He continues to fail to state that those studies are incomplete and do not display comparison and contrast to the causes of aggressive feelings. There are a complex set of factors and merely saying "they played violent video games and, look, they felt aggressive". Even narrowing it down to specific exposures (various genres of video games, books, TV, movies, or physical sport challenges, mental sport challenges, verbal confrontations (such as debates or arguments), or even just witnessing events), you still have many other factors. Type A and Type B personalities, the actual emotion dredged up (anger, frustration, challenged, bored, etc) and other factors which all play a part in creating the apparent aggressive feeling.

Does a person who is "high strung" who feels they are being cheated in a video game show the exact same "aggressive" scans as someone who is in a heated debate that makes them feel angry over the issue but very capable and challenged and not frustrated? What about the football player who is deep "in the zone" playing, but controls their anger while playing versus some goomba in the stands who's yelling and screaming that their team isn't winning and suddenly starts a fight in the stands? What about the chess player who appears calm and collect on the outside but is hyped up because they know, just KNOW, that they've got the game in the bag and their opponent can't see it versus someone who is playing Tetris, at level 95, completely not angry or frustrated, but feeling the heat of the competition as things get outrageously fast and furious?

No where do you see these comparisons and contrasts. So all those studies that have been done are incomplete and, pretty much, worthless.

""Most people, when they stumble across the truth, dust themselves off and move on as if nothing had happened." Winston Churchill"

Too bad John Bruce can't claim to use another famous line, one very famous in his own line of work:
"...Tell The Truth, The Whole Truth, And Nothing But The Truth..."

nightwng2000
NW2K Software

From the update:

"[The Attorney General] stresses the importance of parental involvement in the efforts to keep these influences out of our homes and away from our families.]

That is the Key. Declaring a game a public nuisance does not accomplish this. Let the parents do their job. You can make a public statement about the inappropriateness of the game for kids but that is as far as you should go.

I think Jacky boy has something against R*. Oh well, fuck that whiney little baby.

Conejo Says:
i could’ve sworn Thompson was under agreement to NOT do this kind of thing. does this mean he’ll be back in court again some more with R*?

He himself can't bring a lawsuit against Manhunt 2, but he can encourage the Attorney General and Governor to take action. He's free to badmouth it as much as he wants (barring Chris Matthew's style ownage).

E. Zachary Knight
because there was no ESRB then and they had to tow the family line hard now with a rating board in place they can focus on other things and let game content evolve, some might not like M and T games but that and molding a ratings board to help guide parents and "protect" kids from undue content is the evolution of the process as a whole.

games are the new comic's the dreaded blight on youths I hope the next "dreaded blight on youths " comes faster because I have a feeling things are goign to get worse before they get any better.

I didn't see the Update til after I had finished my previous post, but interestingly enough, my previous post works as a response to the AG office's comment as well.

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software

(From the article) « Attorney General Bill McCollum is concerned about any games which may instill violence in children, particularly games that encourage children to engage in violent behavior, even in simulation. »

The thing is the game is not designed or marketed for children. Politicians seem to have problems to dissociate "Game" and "Kids"...

Oddly enough, Amnesty International issued a statement on the growing face of Censorship in technology, it was mostly about the Internet, but it does make a good example that weak governments are terrified of people forming their own opinions, and often hide behind 'protecting the public' as an excuse to do so.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6724531.stm

If Manhunt 2 is a "training simulator" with its supposed motion controls then according to Tiger Woods '07 I must be ready to take the PGA by storm. Or Wii Sports has me set up to win Wimbeldon.

Really, the motion controls and how into the game you become are based on the individual. I can play tennis standing with full arm swings or while lying on my couch. Zelda is almost completely played sitting down, even in the most intense boss battles, yet I make stabbing, slashing, and slicing motions in that game.

Perhaps Manhunt 2 will only become realistic to those people who wish to make it realistic. Maybe it will be those with a greater tendancy to anger that will act out and envision every single murderous motion in a precise manner. Yes, it is motion capturing controls, but anyone who has played any Wii game can tell you that the motions only slightly resemble the real-life motions and are far from teaching you how to perform those actions.

But I guess expecting JT to actually sit down and play a game to give it a proper and HONEST critique is being a bit hopeful. He makes it sound as if the kids are wearing Hollywood style motion capture suits instead of waving around a rectangular piece of plastic.

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@E. Zachary Knight:

"That is the Key. Declaring a game a public nuisance does not accomplish this. Let the parents do their job. You can make a public statement about the inappropriateness of the game for kids but that is as far as you should go."

I know a certain someone who should be declared a public nuisance (wasting our media bandwidth with his drivel). You would think with the increase in sales after his statements JT would learn a lesson. Did he not learn anything from the sales of Ozzy records, numerous rap records and Marilyn Manson albums after comments from the peanut gallery for nigh of 20 years now? Hell, go back further and you'll find plenty of examples. His comments may actually be pushing some kids to want the games because they are so notorious. Those braindead parents who are actually giving in to shut them up anyways without any explanation of the content therein are the biggest problem. We all see them at GameStop, Wal-Mart, Fry's, Best Buy and so forth. I agree.

JT is actually making Rockstar more money since he's a walking, talking advertisement though. Such an amusing spectacle. The mental image I always have when I read these newest outcries is a cartooney JT with a mallet trying to whack games as they pop up out of holes. It makes me chuckle when he misses. :D

For those who were/are not up on the Wii, there was a LOT of hoopla about the nature of game to come out during its life cycle. Websites, blogs, and online channels (EFNet, Undernet, DALnet, take your pick) were a buzz with the kiddie nature of what was being leaked of the system details and announced games. Longtime fans of Nintendo machines and those-to-be converted who lost the ability to invest in Sega hardware anymore (or wanted whatever box had new games on it), were not very happy. The idea of a kiddie machine with cartoon games drove some of us MAD. Yes, we'd buy the standards like Zelda and Mario, but then what? Adult gamers felt let down by Nintendo and Nintendo was ACTUALLY paying attention. The system comes out and manages to snag not only gamers and collectors, but also casual gamers and kids. Nintendo hit pay dirt but needs adult games to keep some gamers happy. Just like it needs kid games, titles for the whole family, and cheap bargain titles.

As many others have said in a multitude of ways, this is not some huge crime against society's moral fabric. This is Nintendo, 1st party, and 3rd party developers giving the gaming public what they want. Youth sales are only one market of the Wii. This is not the Sega Pico for instance. If I had ever seen a shooter on the Pico, then yes there was a problem to address. If I see a "Dora the Dungeon Pain Basement Explorer" game on LeapFrog's LeapPad I will be the first to call the media. When we start pulling apart criminals in the public square with a 6 pack of beer and some wings, or decapitating our political opponents in front of a baseball crowd during the seventh inning stretch, then I think we have violence issues we need to address as a society. For now, improve ratings as needed and continually educate the consumer. That's it.

[...] Filed under: Culture, Nintendo Wii, Action [...]

Speaking of Jack Thompson check out my BANNED ENTRY for the nintendo short cuts contest starring an insane murdering JACK THOMPSON!Im trying to get his attention with this.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kLkNNDfFMzo

This is such nonsense.

It's a game to be played by MATURE players - NOT impressionable minors with irresponsible parents.

The same people playing this are legally allowed to buy guns & ammo and nobody seems that bothered. Virginia Tech taught this country nothing. Seung-Hui Cho would not have killed anyone with a Wiimote...go figure.

Streisland (probably spelling error) effect. This will only increase it's popularity.

"Attorney General Bill McCollum is concerned about any games which may instill violence in children, particularly games that encourage children to engage in violent behavior, even in simulation. He believes it is important to help protect children from influences which may introduce violence into their lives and stresses the importance of parental involvement in the efforts to keep these influences out of our homes and away from our families"


Then if thats so he needs to go after the psp version and the ps2 version or he should just keep his mouth shut plain and simple

I hope this increases the game popularity and it sells extremely well!!! that way more developers will start bringing more mature contents to the wii...

I sure hope somewhere someone is developing an Adult (AO) X-rated game... the wiimote could be used for so many fun things! lol

@Dragon Bomber

or decapitating our political opponents in front of a baseball crowd during the seventh inning stretch....

Actually, this might not be a bad policy to use in Florida ... They have too many politicians as it is, including in there the inability to count, and the notorious boredom of baseball games--I'm thinking this idea has very few downsides ...

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MaskedPixelantehttp://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/09/20/isis-uses-gta-5-in-new-teen-recruitment-video/09/21/2014 - 4:25pm
quiknkoldSyringes can break. And in a transcontinental delivery, the glass could've broken when crushed. I work in a mail center. Shit like this is super serious09/21/2014 - 3:25pm
E. Zachary KnightIt doesn't matter what is inside the needle. As long as it requires him to take the step of purposefully injecting himself, the threat of the substance is as close to zero as you can get.09/21/2014 - 1:27pm
quiknkoldEzach: I'm not talking about the needle. I'm talking about what's inside. Geeze. Depending on what it is, the sender could be guilty of bioterrorism.09/21/2014 - 12:51pm
E. Zachary Knightquiknkold, No. That syringe is not worse than white powder or a bomb. The syringe requires the recipient to actually inject themselves. Not true for other mail threats.09/21/2014 - 12:49pm
Andrew EisenThe closest to a threat I ever received was a handwritten note slipped under my door that read "I KNOW it was you." Still no idea what that was about. I think the author must have got the wrong apartment.09/21/2014 - 12:28pm
InfophileThat's what they call it? I always called it hydroxic acid...09/21/2014 - 11:57am
MaskedPixelanteProbably dihydrogen monoxide, the most dangerous substance in the universe.09/21/2014 - 10:14am
james_fudgewell I hope he called the police so they can let us all know.09/21/2014 - 9:07am
quiknkoldIt's pretty gnarly. Depending on what it is, it could be worse than white powder or a fake bomb.09/21/2014 - 9:06am
james_fudgeI just looked it up on UPS.com09/21/2014 - 8:56am
james_fudgeand expensive for an American to ship to London.09/21/2014 - 8:55am
E. Zachary KnightThat is pretty scary. Would have been worse if it were a fake bomb or white powder.09/21/2014 - 8:49am
quiknkoldThere's some more tweets regarding it with more pictures09/21/2014 - 8:09am
quiknkoldMilo Yiannopoulos was mailed a syringe filled with clear liquid. He claims it's anti gamergate harassment. Mentioned on his twitter twitter.com/Nero/status/51366668391625523209/21/2014 - 8:07am
Andrew EisenNow, having said that, what sites are you reading that are claiming that if "you self-identify as a Gamer, you're immediately the problem" or that gamers are "obligated to stop harassment"? Or was that hyperbole too?09/21/2014 - 1:03am
 

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