NY Pols Reach Agreement on Game Bill; Passage Delayed Until July

June 22, 2007 -

Details are few at this point as New York State legislators worked late last night to wrap up the current session.

As expected, the Senate and Assembly reached agreement on video game legislation. However, time ran out before the measure could be passed in both houses. Legislators expect to formally pass the bill when they return in July. At that point the video game bill will go to Gov. Eliot Spitzer (D), who is expected to sign it into law.

WXXA-DT/TV (Albany) reports:
 

Republican Senator Andrew Lanza (left) who represents Staten Island describes the type of video games his legislation is trying to label for parents:  "Games that, for instance, reward you for shooting and murdering New York City police officers."

[Senate Minority Leader James] Tedisco says, "Nobody walks up to me on the streets and says, 'Because there's violent video games, I'm leaving the state of New York.'  They say, 'I'm leaving the state of New York because I can't afford to live here.'"


Meanwhile, Lower Hudson Online has this:
 

Two agreements were announced yesterday.

One would place limits on who can see violent video games. It would make it a felony to sell violent and obscene video games to minors. In addition, manufacturers would have to equip game consoles with parental-control devices, retailers would have to label games that are violent and obscene, and the state would establish a committee to study the problem.

"We were all always on the same page in protecting children. We just had to come up with ways to compromise," said Assemblyman Joseph Lentol, D-Brooklyn, co-chairman of the joint conference committee.


GP: Based on an inaccurate news account, we originally listed this bill as passed. In checking with Sen. Lanza's office, we learned that it has been agreed upon but not yet officially passed.


Comments

"Censorship is the child of fear and the father of ignorance."
-Laurie Halse Anderson

So they're all for saving the children...unless it means missing their vacation time or a three day weekend.

As adults always said to me. "stop wasting your time on video games!" So right back at ya you! Jesus shouldn't you worring about gas prices and war and other MORE important shit? Jesus I am glad I stoped voten. I am really sick of these Mother f'ers tellen us what we should be watchen, eatten, doen, sayen. Well here is my free speech talken. FU!

I think due to the severity of the punishment it could qualify as cruel and unusual punishment.

Has anyone thought about how good this can be? think about this. Putting ESRB ratings on these games (That I myself play) actually have a good purpose. These new rules would place more and more responsibility on the game creators and sellers. This almost eliminates the "Blame it on the video game" syndrome. This could actually be good news for gamers. in the courts and media, it places the blame on everyone else but the gamers and the game. If your under age, and your parents wont buy you that latest open ended game like GTA III and up, then by it when you come of age. untill then. this is good news all around

I would like bill against repetitive, unconstitutional, and/or pointless legislature I would like these bills classified as felony's class E or above depending on how much is changed from the last bill. Anyone invloved in such legislature are punished by the bill.
It would make bandwagon jumping a look before you leap process, and more or less kill off the "think of the childeren" throw away legislature for votes.
after all many (im guessing round 70-90%) politicans dont want to do something that could get them thrown in jail or give there opponents come voting time some good dirt.

I usually complain online, then i started writing to those who represent me about the issues i care for. Until recently i had no inclination to believe that any sort of system got my message. Then i recieved an e-mail, from one of my state reps. except it was just a mass produced letter talking about some victory of republicans over democrats. They said absolutely nothing about any of the many issues I wrote to them about. They just assumed i supported them or something and put me on there mailing list. Not a single word about being a Caring citizen, or a thank you for your time and concern. Has anyone actually been able to successfully communicate with an elected official. The only one i know that have, either completely support the current policies that are set up, or have a crap load of money spewing out of their mouths. And i can't even vote them out of power because there isn't anyone running against them in my district. If I wasn't currently in the military and stationed elsewhere, I would run against them, just so people had an option. but alas that won't happen for a few years yet. Until then all i can do is gripe and continue to write to some machine somewhere about my complaints.

What ever happened to a free country. Yeh right. there are so many laws and camera's all over the place. You don't know what the laws are till you break them or go to jail for breaking them. You cant even walk out your door with out stressing.

Im my opinion, this is just the government picking for straws. Both the Republicans and Democrats have no idea how to fix the real problems out there so instead they make up problems such as violent games warping children's minds and causing them to be more violent, ect.
We live in a culture of fear where everyone is just scared shitless and most of this is due to the mass media which is constantly bombaring us with death, destruction, violence on the news and then rather then placing the blame of the individuals commiting the violence, they blame it on a third party.
12 year old Johnny didn't kill his friend because he was fucked up in the head and had mental problems, or the fact his parents were negligent crack addicts who didn't bother to raise or even care for their child. NO, it's because he played GTA: SA, watched Scarface and listened to 50 Cent (actually 50 Cent would probably drive me to kill, not becuase of the contents of his lyrics, but because he just fuckin' sucks so much).
A 550 pound obese man isn't at fault for being fat, even though he eats fast food three times a day and biggie sizes it, it's McDonald's fault for having so much fat and calories in their food.
Today's society just fuckin' sickens me to know end. Now one is responsible for their own actions anymore and the nanny-state has to come in and protect us from ourselves. We are being babied and infantised by the government (esspecially young people and teenagers), and more and more laws and restrictions are being put on us every year that goes by. The worst part is people just sit by let it happen. Of course i'm just sitting here complaining on the internet, but i'm not a citizen of NY state. If i was i'd definelty write letter of disapproval to my state reps about this kind of stuff but in the end i feel in the end it would make no difference. The only way to make a difference IMHO is to vote against both the Democrats and Republicans. No more of this lesser of the two evils crap. The fact is both parties are equal when it comes to incompatance and placing more and more government restrictions and regulations on our lives. Whether it be for morality or protecting us from ourselves.

This frankly shows the stupidity of the NY legislature. I honestly didn't know that selling a kid GTA was as bad as statuatory rape or manslaughter. Frankly the victims of the above crimes and thier families should be insulted by this legislation. This not only unjustly demonizes a harmless entertainment product but also trivializes tragedy. Obviously they wouldn't know how truely traumatizing things like those could be if they think those are as bad as selling a kid a violent game.

Requiring manufacturers to include parental controls? Yeah, that'll happen. If they don't already have them, I seriously doubt Nintendo, MS, or Sony will add them just to please one state.

If this actually holds up in court (which it won't), I'm imagining something like the fireworks situation, where people just go across the state boarder to get their stuff. All in all, what a useless law.

There is already laws like this in New Zealand, under 18s can't buy, play or watch R18 games (GTA and F.E.A.R for exapmle), this in no way effects the sales of the games, and in my opinion is better for the industry, it means if a derranged child shoots someone after playing GTA, the blame can fall on the parents for breaking the law and allowing the child to play this game, not the developers for making the game.

What a mature adult plays is up to them, what a minor plays should be controled, as there is no evidence to show that a 8 year old needs to know all the details about pimps and drug dealing.

An 18 year old should be able to play Manhunt 2 for exapmle, but not an 8 or even 16 year old, becuase although the difference of maturity between two 16 year olds can be vast, a standard that can gauruntee that the majority will be mature enough to understand the game, so therefore a ratgin system useing 3 key ages, as in New Zealand works.

These are the ratings we use down in NZ; R13 (Canis Canem Edit, not very common) R16(SOCOM, God of War) or R18(GTA)

[...] Though two pieces of video game legislation passed in New York — one in the Senate and one in the Assembly — a compromise was not reached in time for a vote before the current session ended yesterday, reports Game Politics. The compromise was reached, however, and a unified bill is expected to pass when the legislature reconvenes in July. [...]

Bill...

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