Monte: trolls are just at their absolute worst when it comes to women and feminist. You could bet good money that if the developer were male the trolls would be silent and the conversation would actually focus on the journalism.10/18/2014 - 9:18pm
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Monte: Papa: Not the first time we've had a journalism scandals before, but the harassment never got close to this level; the difference with this scandal is that feminists are involved. Without the feminist angle, their would be A LOT less harrassment10/18/2014 - 9:15pm
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Papa Midnight: Monte: That's honestly rather short-sighted. As has been proven with other persons who have been targeted, if it wasn't Quinn, it would be someone else.10/18/2014 - 6:26pm
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Avalongod: I think that's part of what gives an esoteric news story like this real life...it taps into a larger narrative about misogyny in society outside of games.10/18/2014 - 3:29pm
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Avalongod: @Monte, well the trolls made death threats that came to police (and media attention). I think this is tapping into a larger issue outside of games about how women are treated in society (like all the "real rape" stuff during the last election)10/18/2014 - 3:28pm
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Wonderkarp: Zippy : Havent tried the PS4 controller. might later.10/18/2014 - 2:37pm
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Monte: Seirously, If Quinn was not involved and GG was instead about something like the Mordor Marketing contracts, the trolling would have never grown so vile and disgusting. There have been plenty of movements in the past that never sufferred from behavior..10/18/2014 - 1:57pm
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Monte: We have seen scandel's before but the trolling has never been as vile as what we see with GG. Trolls usually have such a tiny voice you can barely notice them, but its like moths to a flame whenever femistist are involved.10/18/2014 - 1:53pm
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ZippyDSMlee: Wonderkarp: You might be able to if you had a PS4 controller.10/18/2014 - 1:00pm
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MaskedPixelante: http://store.steampowered.com/app/327940/ Night Dive starts charging for freeware.10/18/2014 - 12:21pm
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Matthew Wilson: the sad thing is there are trolls on both sides of this. people need to stop acting like their side is so pure.10/18/2014 - 12:19pm
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MechaTama31: So, only speak out on a scandal that hasn't attracted trolls? I wouldn't hold my breath...10/18/2014 - 10:49am
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Monte: I feel like GG just needs to die. The movement is FAR to tainted by hatred and BS for it to be useful for any conversation. Let GG die, and then rally behind the NEXT gaming journalism scandal, and start the conversation fresh.10/18/2014 - 10:33am
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quiknkold: and we dont have a Dovakin to call a cease fire10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
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quiknkold: The whole thing is Futile. Both sides are so buried deep in their trenchs that there isnt a conversation. Its just Finger Pointing, Name Calling, Doxxing, Threats. there needs to be a serious conversation, and GG isnt it.10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
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quiknkold: I thought it was a good article. Jeff is right. I feel like GamerGate did destroy its message. I am for Ethics in game journalism, but man. so much hate. and its on both sides. I've seen some awful stuff spewed on twitter. Its a big reason why I exited..10/17/2014 - 7:34pm
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Matthew Wilson: while he focused on gg, he did call out both sides crap.10/17/2014 - 7:18pm
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Papa Midnight: That was a damn good read offered by Jeff Gertsmann.10/17/2014 - 7:17pm
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Matthew Wilson: http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/letter-from-the-editor-10-17-2014/1100-5049/ deferentially a nice write up.10/17/2014 - 6:44pm
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james_fudge: I think Evan killed it. He's a great guy and super smart.10/17/2014 - 6:38pm
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Comments
If this website is an empty forest, why do you insist on continuosly talking in it?
"Mitt Romney doesn’t care what some guy sitting on a toilet thinks about GTA IV."
a president who doesn't care about what another thinks is a tyrant. Nice potty mouth Jack, too bad the only toilet around is the one your career is in.
Since when does someone have to care for them to be called out?
You're right in the fact that these videos are basically insignificant, as they're not bound to change the opinion of even one of the candidates. That didn't happen with the last debate, and that probably won't happen here. But there's no need to go so far so far as to say that they won't serve any sort of purpose whatsoever.
These videos are trees falling in an empty forest, kind of like this web site.
"Illinois` videogame law was declared unconstitutional and costed to the citizens over 500,000$. Other laws followed a similar fate. Proven that science has not been able to find a causal link between videogames and real life violence, are you going to spend taxpayers money on laws which are against free speech? Thank you".
And of course, fix my poor English!
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*Expects the “If you think you can do better, make your own” comments that are going to eventually start showing up if I continue to critique these”.*
Here's the comment you've been waiting for! Actually, considering the amount of thought you are displaying as far as what goes in the background, foreground, relevant props, etc, it would actually be a great idea for you to make a video (if you have the tools to do so). With that much attention to detail, it has a higher likelihood of being recognized and responded to at the debate.
More on topic, the video was good. It sounded like "unrated", but he very definitely meant "M-rated" because unrated games just don't exist anymore, and I don't think old unrated NES games could ever be rated (if they were to be rated) as anything but E.
THe thing is, that is the important to the political process. It give us gamers a voice that have been so far very silent in the main stream. We need to speak out. I have challenged the candidates to come to this site and speak to us. I can only assume that my e-mails were filed in the proper inbox (read: deleted and ignored). We need a vice out there, and this seems to be it in as far as voicing our position.
On comment on the video. Good shot against Romney. He is a band wagon jumper and an over all liar (opinion of every bar in Mass I have been to. And I have been to quite a few.). So calling him on his shit, this person does well.
As for the sound quality. Keep in mind that this is a youtube video so the sound is tough. Fortunately, if the previous debate was any indication, where there is question on sound, the host will set the record straight. So there is little to fear from miss interpritation. Also the view of the guy on the video is very clear, so there should be little question on what he is asking. I hope this makes it into the debate. This is a good arguement and it calls bullshit on Romney so I think he needs to answer this. Also since Ron Paul will be there I am sure that the debate will surely be interesting to say the least.
(I would like it noted that I am not one of the Ron Paul fans. But I do respect his position better than any of the other candidates. Especialy Guliani.)
how about we just see the finalists instead of every joe shmoes video.
I've explained my take on the Mormon issue on other Romney related articles, I figured I'd spare repeating myself.
It's not a bad thing considering the candidate (who has been backed by leaders in the Mormon church) is horribly unqualified to lead. Being a Mormon is pretty much a block that prevents an individual from being nominated by either party, effectively barring them from getting elected. See Jews and Atheists, and pending the Democratic nomination... Blacks and Women.
It's a hateful little country, but if the hate keeps people that I support out of office and in the same breath keeps people like Romney out of office; It's more or less even.
Why don't you explain why it isn't a bad thing that the country hates Mormons? I mean do you have anything to back that up or are you just spewing hate?
btw, it was M-rated.
Phoenix - It's a dark room, and Youtube for some reason made the video darker (It's a lot brighter on the version on my computer)
Cyborg: I didn't realize that. Maybe a reshoot is in order. Oh well, I'll figure something out
Not to mention, doing it in the dark made it kinda creepy, was there something to hide in the background or was it to hide some apparent acne? O_o
*Expects the "If you think you can do better, make your own" comments that are going to eventually start showing up if I continue to critique these".*
governments job is to keep America safe, not to regulate. So why does the government seek to regulate? Is the government truly powerful enough to be the end-all for which games are appropriate for which people? If the government determines that kids are healthier if they go to bed at 9PM, should they enforce a mandatory 9PM bedtime?
This video makes it seem as though retails should regulate. Retailers should not determine what is best for kids. Government should not determine what is best for kids. PARENTS should.
Heh, don't count on that. Keep in mind the subject of all these videos is the government suppression of technology when you get down to it. Why bother understanding something that we're just going burn seems to be the general attitude... hey just like Iraq! (Oy, I should stay on topic)
Not to mention that Hillary takes lobbyist money because they are also 'people'. She even dares to say that she is uninfluenced by them. The only way you can get lobbyist money is if you are the most radical supporter of said group among all of the presidential candidates. I'm just stuck wondering why nearly half of all democrats approve of her.
Back on the subject, I coudn't tell what he said there. Was is "M-rated" or "unrated". Either way, it was a pretty good video. I just hope that the genious tech team at CNN realizes by september that there is a FULL SCREEN BUTTON they can press so the candidates dont have to squint to watch the video. Seriously, do you know how annoying it is to watch YouTube... on YouTube? They had a 144 inch screen but a standard sized video surounded by political signs.
Hilary is a much bigger threat, someone with a Bush-league attitude toward upholding the constitution and a massive proverbial (literal?) hard-on against video gamers. Let's not forget she picked up her stance from Joe "psychobabble" Lieberman.
There's got to be better content out there to run on a Gamepolitics web site than some nobody sitting in a basement and calling out a politician. It seems half of your front page is taken up with this now when far more important things are going on.
I think it would be best to focus on unrated DVDs ,games you have to show ID for regardless of the game and books,yes books are not rated they must be rated and burned in pyres to protect the children!
I've never seen a "this game is not rated" sticker, so if he did say "unrated", that would mean the retail outlet had to come up with their own labels, put them on the front and back of every older game on their shelves, and has a voluntary "check ID on all unrated games" policy that is actually observed by their clerks. While entirely possible, this doesn't really seem all that likely.