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Court TV's
Star Jones will examine video game violence and video game legislation at 3:00 P.M. Eastern Time today.
UPDATE: GP has learned that California State Senator Leland Yee will be on the program. Yee, of course, was the architect of his state's 2005 video game law which was recently declared unconstitutional by a federal court judge.
We understand that Katherine Fallow, an attorney who has helped defend the video game industry against legislation, will be on as well.
Not appearing: Jack Thompson, who writes in a
comment to this GP article:
I was scheduled last night and this morning to be on this Starr Jones segment. I am now not going to be on. Want to know why? ...the video game industry people are afraid to go on the air with me.
ECA president Hal Halpin told
GamePolitics he would have been pleased to provide counterpoint to Thompson's view, but is flying to PAX this weekend.
Thompson, coincidentally,
nixed an opportunity to debate Hal at PAX...
Comments
Is that how things work these days. You no longer want to work in entertainment so you move to law and politics?
She was a lawyer who became a legal analyst who was then hired for the View who then became a "celebrity train wreck" who then became a legal analyst again.
Ah. I get it now.
Participating in the symposium were Judith Krug, Office for Intellectual Freedom Director, and Katherine Fallow, a partner in Jenner & Block. The presentation, What IF: Gaming, Intellectual Freedom and the Law is available as an MP3 audio file.
http://blogs.ala.org/oif.php?title=what_if_gaming_intellectual_freedom_a...
Hopefully she'll have some intelligent input on the subject. I fear she may flock with other limelight-loving, ambulence chasing, clueless "legal experts" we all know and loathe.
I predict Yee's comments will be something along the lines of "I'm disappointed that the court didn't side with me, hopefully the Supreme Court will agree to overlook the unconstitutionality of my bill. It's for the children afterall."
I have very little respect for Senator Yee and his stubbourn refusal to accept that his way is not the best to ensure kids do not have access to inappropriate media, but I have even less respect for someone who would use a racist remark like that.
I can agree with people who would berate him for his policies, his actions and his statements in the past, but to insult him because of his ethnicity? If I were moderating this site I would ban you. In making a comment like that, you conform exactly to the stereotype that the anti-gaming brigade has created, an aggressive, hateful, immature person.
So, the great, self-righteous defenders of freedom of expression, of the marketplace of ideas, and who also say that I am a joke and having nothing to say are such sissy cowards that they won't go on a cable news program because they are frightened out of their sorry wits that they can't stand up to the facts of this issue.
If I were the "retard" that they say I am, they would die to be on the air with me to make a monkey of me.
I've been on the Today show eight times and 60 Minutes twice for a reason. I know what I'm talking about, and the industry is scared to death of me. They should be. Hooah!
How exactly is calling Leland Yee's mother a whore and father JT racist? Offensive, and this is definitely isn't the place for such insults, but I wouldn't call it racist.
I don't think it's that racist, I'm sure many other sites of mainly other ethnicites have made crack-comments like that for white people (or Americans). Plus, it's not like Zigs meant it..
Star Jones and Leland Yee sure are industry people all right.
I think the reason people from the game industry don't want to be on the show with you is the fact that if you were, they would never get a chance to speak. You would interupt them after the second word and go off on a ten minute speal of your "credentials" and you 60 Minutes interview.
They would rather be on the show with someone who will let them voice their side of the issue.
Remember when Thompson described Rockstar employees as "Scottish sociopaths"? What does their being scottish have to do with their work? I have said in the past that he is stupid for believing that video games make people into killers, and that he is ignorant for refusing to accept other's point of view. What if I said he was stupid and ignorant because he was an American? Or becuase he was white?
I probably am overreacting a little, but I still think it's idiotic to bring a person's ethnicity into a debate regarding a television appearance they will make and their previous actions against video games. It adds nothing to it.
@ Jack Thompson:
"So, the great, self-righteous defenders of freedom of expression, of the marketplace of ideas, and who also say that I am a joke and having nothing to say are such sissy cowards that they won’t go on a cable news program because they are frightened out of their sorry wits that they can’t stand up to the facts of this issue."
So when your psychologist said "He said that he realizes that he may have offended some with his ad hominem writings, and he will be more moderate in his writing style in the future.", this is the result? Seems like you kept quiet long enough for them to perceive you as reasonable, then when you had your positive report you went straight back to being the rude, deluded person we are so familiar with.
And JT, even Fred Phelps and Michael Crook have been on major shows like that. Who are they? Look them up...see where you rank.
I agree with Zachary here.
You see Jack, the reason why most people don't like you, is not because of your views...its because your an asshole. You supply some decent facts from time to time, but they are instantly forgotten because soon after you post them, you fling an insult.
Why on earth would the industry want to go on t.v. with someone like that? Its like debating with a child. Because once the debate gets good, you start pitching hissy fits and calling people names.
You just have a real unorthodox way of portraying your views.
I mean Janet Reno? Wtf? Or Penny-Arcade? Gabe and Tycho owned your ass with that check they wrote...and you know it. And you only have yourself to blame for that one.
I would prefer not to wield the ban stick, so please adjust accordingly.
Sen. Yee, by the way, is an American citizen - and I don't believe that I can ever recall any cooperation between Yee and Jack Thompson.
-GP
seriously its COURT tv that means they want REAL lawyers (the hosts aside)
He also reminds me that Jack was offered a chance to debate Hal at PAX this weekend but declined...
meh what the hell i'll check it out
just felt the need to clarify
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I’ve been on the Today show eight times and 60 Minutes twice
man it doesn get any better than this, certainly says alot bout these shows
OMFG! Court TV has surfed the internets!
It doesn't bother you that CourtTV cares more about the VG industry than about your presence during the show? No ranting about a conspiracy to keep you silent?
I'm disappointed.
GP: yes, I don't want phone numbers for 3rd parties posted here...
I was scheduled last night and this morning to be on this Starr Jones segment. I am now not going to be on. Want to know why? Dennis, you can call me, and I will play the producer’s voice mail for you. Better yet, call Beth at 212-973-xxxx, and she will tell you that the video game industry people are afraid to go on the air with me.
So, the great, self-righteous defenders of freedom of expression, of the marketplace of ideas, and who also say that I am a joke and having nothing to say are such sissy cowards that they won’t go on a cable news program because they are frightened out of their sorry wits that they can’t stand up to the facts of this issue.
If I were the “retard” that they say I am, they would die to be on the air with me to make a monkey of me.
I’ve been on the Today show eight times and 60 Minutes twice for a reason. I know what I’m talking about, and the industry is scared to death of me. They should be. Hooah!
1. I was scheduled last night and this morning to be on this Starr Jones segment. I am now not going to be on. Want to know why? Dennis, you can call me, and I will play the producer’s voice mail for you. Better yet, call Beth at 212-973-xxxx, and she will tell you that the video game industry people are afraid to go on the air with me.
Starr Jones segments are, of course, great ways to get reliable information. And by the way, what do you call your segment with Adam Sessler? The industrty kicking your ass up and down the interweb.
2.So, the great, self-righteous defenders of freedom of expression, of the marketplace of ideas, and who also say that I am a joke and having nothing to say are such sissy cowards that they won’t go on a cable news program because they are frightened out of their sorry wits that they can’t stand up to the facts of this issue.
Oh my, such Ad Hominem. To start off with, every time that you have been challenged, you ahve backed out for some bullshit reason or another.
3.If I were the “retard” that they say I am, they would die to be on the air with me to make a monkey of me.
I’ve been on the Today show eight times and 60 Minutes twice for a reason. I know what I’m talking about, and the industry is scared to death of me. They should be. Hooah!
They would die to be on the air to show the world what a joke you are; sadly, you weasel out of debates like a snake out of a cage. You've been on Today show eight times and 60 minutes twice, and each time you made up the same bullshit, none of which is backed up with any fact, only your supposition.
SO, MR JACK THOMPSON, I, AUSTIN LEWIS, CHALLENGE YOU TO A DEBATE ON ANY SHOW OF YOUR CHOOSING AT ANY DATE. LET'S GO.
Or are you so afraid of us you won't even debate a 20 year old college student?
Those "sissies" have kicked your ass in court time and time again. So I guess that makes you the sissy's bitch.
To you, Mr. Thompson, I would love to prove you wrong on the air, if only I could find a show.
umm yeah.... riiiiiight
I can barely stand watching this show, oy. its "E-News" for CourtTV
yuck
The news programs do believe you have nothing to say, Jack. They're just being nice in not telling you. Yee is just as thickheaded as you, but the reason why he's being allowed on and you're not is because unlike you he can keep a civil tongue in his head.
BTW, there's something else on CNN tonight Dennis that you might also be interested in. It's part of a 3 part series hosted by Christiane Amanpour entitled "God's Warriors." Tonight's segment focuses on the Evangelical Christians with part of it dealing with the so-called "Culture War."
One segment deals with a movement called Battle Cry; an organization of teens who are opposed to popular entertainment and are being encourged by their leader Ron Luce to reject and protest against violence in popular entertainment including TV, movies, music...and video games.
They show footage of one of their rallies. It's like freakin' Nuremberg in Triumph of the Will. It freaked the hell out of me. This was exactly the kind of brainwashing and indoctrination I was referring to, only on a much grander scale. Ladies and gentlemen, here is the next generation of Jack Thompsons.
Here's a link to the website. Take a look at the video for "The Culture War" under Christianity.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2007/gods.warriors/
Also here's a link to the Wikipedia article for Battle Cry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Cry_Campaign
I think we ought to keep an eye on this Ron Luce guy. He seems more charismatic and influential than JT could ever hope to be.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/Viscter/dcp_3642.jpg
So I did the next best thing; I had him autograph a copy of his book and destroyed it for charity. It pissed him off quite a bit, so it was an extra bonus.
As it happens, my offer still stands; if you want to get on tv again so bad feel free to try and reshedule your appearance, I'll be happy to counter every claim you make point after point myself. If you think you know more than everyone in the industry, a regular ol' gamer should be no problem for you - unless you're the coward we all know you to be.
they always start out that way cause no ones really watching give him some time . . .
And, as a member of the Armed Forces, I find that your use of "Hooah" to be completely outrageous. Please stop disgracing the military with your comments, and, if you must, at least take up a new "war cry." Self-serving people such as yourself need not shout a phrase that so many others use as a symbol of camaraderie.
I know what you mean. It looks like it might only be a 5 minute segment just so that she can spend the entire show on Hollywood gossip. What do you think are the chances that Yee will get 4 of those 5 minutes and that the attorney will only be able to get in a 1 sentence blurb?
I will do as the guest is suggesting and think about what media I will expose myself to...
CLICK!
Jones, a little biased to the other side, but I think she was faily objective. Let the parents work things out and the likes. She concluded with a "middle-ground" sort of things.
All in all, I think it's unbalanced when presented to the mainstream viewer for the sheer fact that Columbine is still a fresh wound in many peoples minds. No casual viewer is going to walk away without a bias.
I'm sorry for any Californians out there who are having thier tax dollars used in such a negligent way for a cause that is so superfluous.
I really think a Judge needs to rule that the politicians themselves need to pay for this, out of their own pocket, and can't touch any tax money.
Lmao God i loved that debate right there...adam pwned his ass like there was nothing to it..i would love to see jacky boy get pwned by both morgan and adam though now that would be awesome
go away jack no one wants you here
No wonder Thompson declined, he wouldn't get 100% of the airtime like he would on say FOX news or CNN.
I'm not sure, but what I didn't like is when he described that, to me he made it sound like it was the first time Harris held a gun. There is video proof that they practiced with the guns they used in the mountains.
I'm really beginning to wonder, yes, I know violence in the public media is supposed to be his official agenda, but has anyone ever heard of him pursuing any other kind of media since he got cop-killer busted down in the 80's? The real irony is 2K did more actual fiscal damage to themselves adding SecuROM to Bioshock then he's done in years.
As for Yee, though I don't agree with many of his points, he was very respectful and let the host control the show. He kept the hyperbole to a minimum, and had a very respectful tone and didn't try to shout over Star or the industry lawyer. What I didn't like is his assertion that when you're playing a video game, the button presses are somehow "literally" the same as murdering someone or (Yee's words) "urinating on women." Also, he said that Judge Ron White said in his ruling that the state has an interest in regulating games, so he sees that as carte blanche to try again. I disagree with this myself as 8 other judges have not said such a thing. I will, however, give him credit for only mentioning being a child psychiatrist once, and very quickly towards the end and not shoving credentials/show appearances down our throat.
The industry lawyer could've been better, but she did a fair job of arguing the legal side of things. Star opened talking with her by mentioning the 8-0 winning streak that the industry had, and then when the industry lawyer corrected her by pointing out that it's now 9-0 with the California ruling, Star was receptive of the correction and even laughed about it a bit. The single best part about the industry lawyer's bit, and possibly the entire debate, was that although Star and Yee said that there aren't tools in the consoles themselves for parents to limit what games kids can play, the industry lawyer pointed out how all the new consoles have parental controls that allow parents to set passwords.
That was actually a very good debate despite opening with a Columbine survivor (for the heartstrings, I would assume) arguing for government regulation of violent media. I will at least commend him for not restricting it to video games despite that being what the debate was about, but other than that, no comment.
While this is the first time i'd ever heard about that, I wouldn't be so suprised if its true. Those two were already messed up and the kickback could have "knocked" some sense into him. Then again, had those parents "knocked" some sense into them to begin with, we'd probably never be having this discussion right now. Remember parents, beat your kids.
Although reading about how it went, I kind wish Jack was there. Because we all know how bad a job Jack does behaving and it would have been nice to see him getting reprimanded or even storming off from the debate.
Sounds like they coulda picked someone better to represent the industry tho.
There was point where Star could tell Yee was becoming agitated that she kept interrupting him when he was talking about regulation, and she clarified by saying that no one disagrees that there should be regulation, but that she's asking who should have the regulation power.
Also, I forgot the industry lawyer's name and also the name of the Columbine survivor. I have a much easier time remembering faces, not names.
Additionally, if no one's noticed, he never responds to users, he simply trolls and hopes to god that people read what he writes. I doubt that he would even take the time to read any of the legitimate comments written on this board, primarily due to the fact that he most likely is too busy bashing Dennis and calling game industry figure cowards.
What I don't understand, really, is the attack on individuals' character. There are plenty of people who are opposed to video game violence who go about it in a somewhat professional manner. Actually citing evidence, not jumping on TV at the first chance that one gets, not demeaning other peoples' character. Jack Thompson has taken the art of debate and argumentation back to pre-kindergarten levels. It's not the evidence, it's not the students who shoot up schools, it's not those dying. It's how much crap he can get his hands on to fling at other people.
Agreed. I've been trying to figure out what his gameplan is, but I'm beginning to suspect he doesn't have one at all. He's just trying to prop himself because the people around here react to him so violently. Probably helps his self-esteem. Court TV didn't keep him off the air because they were afraid of him, they kept him off the air because they wanted to have a serious discussion.
As for Leland Yee-he just is a supporter of the uber-liberal "nanny state" concept, and you have to consider that every time you read about him...he'll try again if the opportunity arises, that much is true.
Totally. It would simultaneously be sad and incredibly ironic if JT snapped and shot up a gamestop somewhere.
If his house had a basement he'd be living in it.
I understand the thinking there, but I see it as a mistake. The guy gets on TV with or without the industry acknowledging his existence. Better to engage, IMO...
You do your best to talk over people, interrupt, plug your fire tinder book, insult anyone who isn't on your side.... I think the question would be, who does want to interview with you? No one. Not out of fear, but because you're a pompous jerk.
This is a typical Thompson "debate" here.
Jack "The Sky is Green"
Posters: "Actually no its not. Here are photos from weather.com of the sky being blue and a link to wikipedia giving a scientific explanation to just why the sky is blue. Also here is mention of "wild blue yonder"
Jack: "I was on CNN, and I said the sky is green."
Posters: "What about all that shit we just mentioned that totally shoots down everything you say?"
Jack: "I wrote a letter to Hillary on the Greenness of the sky."
Posters: "Yeah, thats nice. But about everything that says your wrong."
Jack: "The meteorological society is afraid of me, because I know of the green."
Posters: "Fuck you."
seemz to eagr to prove that yu ar better than us?
Argue with gamers on a website? Hell yes!
Debate with Hal on TV? Ooooh...thats a little too much for me...
GP: Mark, I don't know all of the details, but he's filed a notice that he now intends to add 30+ people as defendants. Basically all of the FL Bar hierarchy and anyone was served as a governor since 2004. That plus the fact that he is now requesting mediation and that he's not crowing about it tells me it didn't go his way...
Because you are volatile, aggressive, and able to attract ratings because of the controversies surrounding you?
"I know what I’m talking about, and the industry is scared to death of me."
I have yet to see you say or do anything that can even remotely validate this claim.
I'd love to know what happened there to mark. Hey Dennis, any word on that?
@Jack THompson
I'll refrain from saying what I wanted to say as I don't want to get dennis in any trouble, but I will say this.
Jack, anyone with half a brain knows better then to get anywhere near you in regards of tv, cause your a blow hard, self serving idiot who never actually gives facts or truths, but loves to spout lies and hate as if it was going out of style.
Just as an example, I recently, via Utube, went back and looks at a number of your interviews. IN all of them I noted your CLaim that the APA found a Causal link between games and violence. SOmething that, you might remember, was disproven on GP some time ago.
SO, all totalled, you lied, ON AIR, 10 times in the past few years when you made that statement, since it was, and has been proven to be, Untrue.
Thats why no one wants to be on the air with you. Thats why you were taken off the show.
Frankly, I couldn't care less how many shows he's been on. It doesn't impress me one little bit seeing as he goes on shows to use, abuse, misuse and exploit the tragedies of individuals, families, and communities just to push his own personal, religious, and/'or political beliefs just so he can gain support as a tin-pot-dictator-wannabe.
As to the "industry" not brave enough to face him:
I haven't had time to read everyone's posts, so one or more folks may have mentioned these:
Tom Buscaglia., the Game Attorney, vs. John Bruce "Jack" Thompson
Tom agreed, John Bruce backed out.
Jason Della Rocca vs. John Bruce "Jack" Thompson
Jason agreed, John Bruce backed out ('cuz he wouldn't have been paid).
Penny Arcade vs. John Bruce "Jack" Thompson
Penny Arcade tried to set it up, John Bruce backed out (by violating the reasonable rules set forth)
Hal Halpin vs. John Bruce "Jack" Thompson
As GP pointed out, Hal agreed, John Bruce cringes in fear.
Now, the only one I can think of that John Bruce, mind you I say JOHN BRUCE, not me, would say the "industry backed out", would be the recent PopZArt article. Quite frankly, my opinion is that the "debate", while not handled directly, still existed by way of GP's own 4-part article in which John Bruce could have participated, which, in a way, he did. So, technically, that isn't the "industry backing out" (and since GP is tied to the ECA, not the ESA, it really isn't even "industry" but "consumer" linked).
Maybe someone else can think of ones that JOHN BRUCE (not US, but JOHN BRUCE) would say the "industry backed out"). Or even ones he backed out on.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
I agree with you. In my opinion ignoring him only emboldens him. What we need is someone like Hal Halpin to debate him on national television. I don't think it will "legitimize" his argument. If anything, it could bring out the jt we all know and love here for the wide American audience.
There is no getting rid of him by arguing, so lets devote the thought out words to the people he preaches to, people who may actually listen. Jack thompson is a waste of everyones time.
And dennis, any update on that hearing would be great, its sounds like its going well.
What, opening his mouth isn't enough? Darn, guess it's not that easy.
@nightwng2000:
So that's 0-4 by default? (What does that make his losing streak again? I forget... how sad is that when I can't even keep track of his losses anymore?)
Dennis, I didn't nix a debate with Hal Halpin. PAX pulled the plug, I didn't. You smoking the weed tonight, Dennis?
What kind of funny cigarettes have you been smoking lately?
The industry would love to debate you, it's just that they don't want to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man(that's you).
I don't care if you were on Today, 60 Minutes, The Simple Life, or Hogan Knows Best. Anybody can get on TV. Your appearances on those two shows had zero to do with the true facts(video games had nothing to do with Padauch or Alabama), and more to do with the tabloid sensationalism mentality that permeates the news today, but that's another story.
Besides that, you're the scared one, since you pussed out of several debates with various pro-video game people, so as Ken Titus would say, Quit being a wussy.
Practice what you preach, jabroni: Grow up and get a life.
Dennis, I didn’t nix a debate with Hal Halpin. PAX pulled the plug, I didn’t. You smoking the weed tonight, Dennis?"
Jack on trial: Your honor, not only am I innocent of all charges, but the plaintiff is a pothead.
PAX claimed they pulled the plug because you pulled out, Jackie. Also, exactly who is this mysterious "they"? I got a real good feeling that "they" are something you made up so you have someone to point a finger at. But don't forget. You were on 60 Minutes. Wooooooo. How sad.
I think he wants to know if Dennis is smoking weed because his ran out. You can tell by the lack of the "hooah!" but the painfully obvious repeat of what he said before, without any proof to back himself up.
JT honestly seems like someone who has seen too many lawyer movies and thinks himself the righteous underdog, maybe thats why he loses all his cases.......enjoy it while you can jack, you wont be a lawyer for long.
Go back to hell where you belong.
Jack, what were you smoking when you came up with THIS bullshit about how the VT Massacre was done by a guy that "trained on murder simulators", even though they found he wasn't a gamer.
I think David Gregory put it best when he said "Jack Thompson, an attorney who specializes, uh, terribly in these crimes."
(im sure you all can figure this one out yourselves)
None at all, right? That's exactly how much I give him as well.
The way it is phrased seems like a cheap shot at Jacko implying he was afraid to be part of the debate and that doesn't seem to be the case. There are a million reasons to take shots at Jacko so taking cheap shots just seems kind of petty.
true but he makes it so damn easy!!
If you haven't seen enough of Jack's "words of wisdom", take a look at this...some may even recognize stuff posted here. This should have been sent to the psych examination.
Ah, thank you Dennis--I didn't want to waste the $0.08 per page to read Jack's latest tripe. Fat chance that the Judge will go for it at this stage. Lil' tip--you don't simply get to file a "notice" saying that you're going to file a new or amended complaint; you have to get permission from the Court to do so. You'd think Jack would've learned that with his little Kotaku fiasco...
To be afraid of you, wouldn't you have to be a threat or something? But please feel free to try and back up your statement with facts. I'm curious to how you came to this conclusion.
And no, your paranoid "Everyone is out to get me! delusions don't count as fact.
Scott said something about how at one point, when Harris shot his gun, the slide ended up hitting him in the nose, causing it to bleed and "supposedly" bring him back to reality. It sounds kind of odd tho, as jdsmp911 said, there were videos of Klebold and Harris shooting guns in the mountains You'd expect someone who's fired before not to make a stupid mistake like that.
omg jack has turnjed into jonathon lee richards!!!!!!!
that means this is definitely gonna be at alot of legal sites and a great joke
(for those that dont get my joke jonathon sued 57 pages worth of people/objects {yes you read that right inanimate objects such as the book mein kampf the planet of pluto}) for the record though jon was not a lawyer he was a prisoner going pro se
reminds me of jacks 37 page doosie, implicating penny arcade and bloggers in the vast antijack conspiracy.
there is certainly a conspiracy (lead by the bar of course) its to get rid of embarrasments to the bar association
Anyone else find it kind of sad that a few tv appearances seem to be the highlight of Jack's life? I mean most of the rest of the "Save the children from the Video Games!" crowd has reasonably successful political careers, or large organizations they're responsible for to be proud of. Yet the only thing Jack's got is a few minutes of talking head time. He's never even had a successful legal career to look back on with pride.
he did it to himself
I believe his name is actually Jonathan Lee Riches.
(For those of you who don't know, Kyle Sandilands is a sorry excuse for a radio host in Australia, he's rude, beligerant and throws a tantrum everytime someone shoots him down. He breaks the rules and complains when he gets caught out. The guy couldn't even last 5 minutes in the Big Brother AU house because he wouldn't follow the rules and got punished for it)
I've been a lurker here for a long time and I will say this, Jack Thompson is no different then any other televangical out there who tries to make a quick buck with outragious claims. Once he's had his 5 minutes in the spotlight, everyone will move on again and he'll fade into a dim memory. We're already seeing this now and the only reason that he's causing such a commotion is he knows that his time is nearly up.
It's a political game. It's not exactly rare to tug at the heart strings or just charged issues of the masses to swing them in your favor. I'd really like to see someone on TV mention all the parents who have credited video games with teaching their disabeled children skils like reading. And I sincerely ask anyone who's seen different to let me know.
I have some amazing stories I wish I could share. If it weren't for HIPPA I could (we're not even technically allowed to describe a patient's symptoms or outcome, even with not other information). The quick rundown: I'm interning as a group therapy aid USING video games for treatment. We help kids with just about any disorder learn social skills and acceptable behavior (using behavior modification). I have yet to see one of these kids NOT be helped. Some are even like new people after their first session. But you don't hear about it in the news or cited as something positive with video games. You hear about all the killers these games have supposedly made.
Wow, that was longer than I intended. Here's the stuff I REALLY wanted to point out:
1) Like most people have said here, no one wants to debate with someone who is unreasonable and falsifies information.
2) I want proof of the supposed fear. I'm talking I want to hear the voice mail or read documents about it with third-party references I can check for accuracy. And if I don't find a phrase akin to "they say they want a weaker opponent" or "they're afraid of you," then I want payment for wasting my time for trying to prove fabricated statements to me.
3) My guess is that aside from his growing reputation for inaccuracies and falsifications, they wanted guests who've been in the news more recently.
4) Has anyone else noticed about the TV appearances JBT DOESN'T ever mention? I never seem to see him flaunt his appearances that have ripped him apart. When's the last time you heard him say "I was on G4/Hardball" or anything like that? His supposed expertise must not have anything to do with those appearances. At least not the way he would like.
-Michael Schwinger
Funny thing was that the odds were stacked against the Industry Lawyer and she still pulled it to a tie (only because time ran out). She shot down the "I can't control my kids" arguement in one sentence! Good play for the industry.
Here is what was against the indistry speaker:
Columbine sob story
bias of the host
Yee pulling the heartstrings with the "for the children" comments
and she still came out tied.
I take this as proof that the indistry has the better arguement. She even got the host to admit that you can't go against the Constitution regardless of intent.
I think the segment was cut short. They did a segment on little Miss Lohan the newest trainwreak in the long line of hollywood trainwreaks that was twice as long.
@ JT
Jack, you need to stop with the asshole thing. It is not working for you and as everyone who has been anywhere near a schoolyard arguement, the first one to say "NO! Your stupid and shut up!" is the one who looses. As I recall you were the first one to throw a hissy fit, so you loose. Get the balls to debate someone on national TV without a single bit of slander against their character and use just the facts. Set up your own site where you can say whatever you want and stop harassing us and Dennis. Stop hijacking the comments. Stop being a jackass with no life and with no ambition to do anything other than harass little insignificant gamers on a website. It is pathetic and low.
I hate to break it to you, but no one here is worth your time. Not even Dennis. You have a bigger crusade against the industry. What are you doing here wasting your time with us? THe only reason you are here is for attention, and if we are the only source of attention for you then you really have sunk low. It means you are losing. You are just wasting your time with us. Nothing that we type here is going anywhere other than here. Being the offical Gamepolitics.com troll is not a good career move and it does not provide dental.
That wasn't one of his one-sided 'shooting fish in a barrel' "debates" that he "won", so of course he didn't include it.
@Archgabe:
Thread over, you win. (as well as any other threads JT plans on trolling in the future.)
Another factoid Jack conveniently forgets si that the point of a debate is not to "win", it's to come away with a better understanding of the opposite, but, since JT prefers ignorance being bliss, he'll take any victory he can get.
I will gladly debate with you.
John B. Thompson, Attorney at Law
1172 S. Dixie Hwy., Suite 111
Coral Gables, Florida 33146
305-666-4366
amendmentone@comcast.net
August 24, 2007
Hal Halpin, President
Entertainment Consumers Association
64 Danbury Road
Suite 700
Wilton, Connecticut Via Fax to 203-761-6184 feedback@theeca.com
Re: Debate
Dear Hal:
I was interested by the statement yesterday at GamePolitics.com that you would have been willing to debate me on Court TV regarding the sale of mature/adult video games to kids, but you were traveling to PAX 2007 where Dennis McCauley reports I nixed a chance to debate you. In fact, as you know the Penny Arcade folks cancelled my visit. I did not, so I have to wonder also about his reportage of your unavailability for a debate on tv as well. Dennis gets things a bit confused quite often.
But moving on, I hereby take you up on your statement that you would be delighted to debate me. Fine. I’ll do so anyplace, anytime. Your sister-in-law, whom I trust you know, can set it up.
Doug Lowenstein, the former head of ESA and the alleged great proponent of freedom of expression and the value of the marketplace of ideas, refused all of my offers, for years, to debate anyplace, anytime. Doug’s approach on my free speech was to threaten Ed Bradley and CBS if they put me on 60 Minutes. Maybe Doug was afraid I would use his own traveling make-up artist and wind up looking as dapper as he always does.
Be that as it may, please don’t go the Lowenstein route and say one thing and then do another. I think we should debate this rather large issue. I scared everyone else in your industry off Court TV yesterday. I trust you are made of sterner stuff.
Call or e-mail me. Let’s do this as soon as we can, on a college campus, preferably.
Oh, and if I’m as crazy and inept as gamers say I am, you should be itching for the chance to make a monkey of me.
Regards, Jack
Penny Arcade pulled the plug specifically because of your actions, they wanted a level of security so they did not disclose the fact that a high profile individual such as yourself was going to appear, it is their event and they had a right to do just that, then you like the asshole you are decided to just ignore that simple clause. There are consequences for people's actions, Jack, when people are being nice and say "hey, yeah you want a forum to debate, how about our event that regularly attracts thousands?" they get to put reasonable conditions like "just don't tell anyone till the day of" and if you don't follow those conditions then there are consequences for that, so stop being such a dick and playing the victim with everything, you knew what was going to happen so essentially Dennis was right you did shirk out of that debate.
Sorry for the double post but I just watched another youtube video of you saying that kids "trained, literally" on Super Columbine Massacre RPG. Stop saying that, you know that's not true, you know what a turn based rpg, anyone who's been involved in the video game industry as long as you have, even if not directly, would have to know what an RPG is vs. an FPS, you know that as a turn based RPG there's nothing in the game that gives any form of applicable "training" for real life be it marksmanship, gun use or otherwise. You only say that because you also know that your audiance probably is unaware of the content of SCMRPG and therefore your able to just say whatever you want even though it has no factual basis.
they get to put reasonable conditions like “just don’t tell anyone till the day of”
come on you expect jack to understand basic contract law?
are you feeling ok ?
Fortunately the gamer audience isnt as gullible as the general public.
yes i know but i had to take a shot at him (so to speak)
I mean watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT30Iwp2wNM
It honestly seems like jack is just someone whose seen too many lawyer movies (I'd say played too much phoenix wright if it werent ole jack), always thinking himself the undedog against the world, with his crucial piece of evidence (which is ultimately insignificant against his own misconduct) to show the villains for what they are. He has no grasp of the proceedures that make up the legal system, hence why he is forever losing his cases.
lets hope his disbarment goes well.
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/06/05/thompson-blames-penny-arcade-for-canc...
Huh uh... You didn't agree to the terms set by the event organisers (Penny Arcade) and you accuse Dennis of smoking weed. Way to go, Jack! Keep it up. The more slander that spews out of your mouth, the deeper your hole (I still haven't deleted the email where you called me an idiot and threaten to slander my name. Yay...)
Was it not YOU who shot down an opportunity to sit face-to-face with Hal Halpin?
Not every one is afraid of you, I saw you debating Adam Sessler a few months ago he obviously wasn't afraid (although I have to say I'm not a big Sessler fan and frankly you came out of that looking like the more calm and prepared of the two, of course it was on G4 so everyone's mind was already made up.) That being said Halpin's a much better orator than Sessler and as a lobbyist is far more used to speaking with people whom he disagrees with and will probably tear you a new one.
I noticed you never mentioned the "Hidden nudity" in Oblivion, why is this? Is it because Todd Howard double speeks better then you or what?
"Nope. Nice try. They refused to show up with me on the show because they’re afraid of me. How sad."
You have any evidence of this, or is this another manifestation of your N.P. complex?
"Dennis, I didn’t nix a debate with Hal Halpin. PAX pulled the plug, I didn’t. You smoking the weed tonight, Dennis?"
PAX pulled the plug because YOU nixed the confidentiality they wanted. You may not have nixed it yourself, but announcing their plans when they TOLD you they wanted them secret had the same effect. Oh, nice comment about the smoking weed, dumbass. You're lucky he lets you post here at all, and you go and insult him instead of merely correcting him (even though you're STILL wrong)
Also, how much money are you going to ask for?
If you do it for free (minus maybe air-fare) I think you'd impress a lot of people, and show that maybe you have intentions other than getting on television.
Incorrect. They set the rules for the debate, you declined. So it wasn't them that canceled, it was you. Just because there wouldn't be a camera in your withered mug to stroke your inflated ego you decided it not worth your time.
You "bearing false witness" is truly revolting.
Good work. Keep it up....