September 23, 2007
China's anti-terrorism program, apparently, is being run on the cheap.The People's Daily reports that more than 300 Chinese police officers took part in a recent competition using Counter-Strike, a popular but aging first-person shooter based on the Half-Life engine. Said organizer Zhang Bin:
The competition is organized to sharpen anti-terrorist skills of Tianjin's police force, as we find the nature of the game very similar to that of our daily practice.
Added Han Zhen, a police tactical instructor:
Given its close resemblance to real-life scenarios, the game greatly enhances the terrorism awareness of our officers. And it is very important as terrorism has become a global issue.
In particular, it trains our officers in the use of weapons and taking advantage of different terrains, and is also a test of mental strength in a duel with a terrorist.
Of course, [the officers] play, or should I say train, after work. [The game is only] a supplement to their traditional means of training.
GP: While playing CS will give the player an awareness of cover and target acquisition, it seems of dubious value for real-life training. Unless, of course, your beat is a closed loop full of bunny-hopping terrorists who like to tag their surroundings.
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Yeah, if by weapons you mean mouse. Anyone who has fired a gun at all knows the ridiculousness of the claim of training on a video game, its apples and plastic oranges.
China doesn't really have any enemies though. They don't really need to worry about Terrorism.
I'll say the Netherlands, if it makes you feel better.
Some of your comments remind me of him, and its not a good thing.
Thats a good one right there. I'm guessing that they train against each other rather than just pubbing. If not then it in NO WAY is close to real life. Well, i guess you can call it realistic if real life was filled with script kiddies/hackers, elitists, and 10y/o's who like to like to scream derogatory things over the voice chat, or a mix of the above. with some actual legit players sprinkled on top.
So, they're not using their not just playing CS and then thinking they can go out and put a cap in some bad guys.
just wait for someone to yell "boom headshot"
id say this was used to teach formation without a chance at the recruits (im guessing again) getting injured
how to figure out which direction opposing fire is coming from and other things, these kinds of things
Hehehe That, or they hope terrorists don't bother to train at all and generally become overconfident because they think the police are a joke. Or maybe they just want to make the terrorists laugh themselves to death..
Still, i'm assuming the PRC trains it's Police how to shoot. CS is probably safer than Wargames in the Ural Mountains too..
You know what...I'm not even going to go there. Just as GP said.....sounds cheap to me.
Good. That puts me at rest.
Same here. At least they do the traditional stuff, like taser students and beat us Americans down.
It's good fun. You should try it some time. Uh... I mean, those Communist Pigs.
Mr. Thompson have you:
A- Fired any real firearms at all in your life.
B- Played any of these claimed "murder" simulators
If your answer is no to either one then your knowledge of being able to compare the two is moot.
the 'weapons training' comment is going to be hilariously taken out of context though.
the only weapons training you can get from a game like this is an approximation on the capabilities of the weapons in real life: range, reload time and so on.
though all the politicians/crazed lawyers on the anti-games bandwagon are going to take the 'OMG IT TEACHES PEOPLE TO SHOOT GUNS!¬!¬!¬!' line of thought -_-
Tactical? Perhaps.
But the assumption by Jack and those who listen to his tripe that the majority gamers (the ones who aren't in the military mind you) could fire fight their way out of a damp paper bag is hilarious at best. And as Far as Harris and Klebold: What kind of training does it take to gun down unarmed, unexpectant people at point blank range?
If the CHinese really wanted to train with tactics why didn't they use a Rainbow 6 title?
Console sales are banned in China. No consoles= no games.
Rainbow Six games aren't console-only. They've always been primarily PC in the past, and until recently their console iterations have been a bit lacking.
Console sales banned? But I just bought my PS3 this summer at Zhongguancuan, in Beijing. I don't think it was illegal, cause' they were being fairly open about it.
He most likely means the R6 franchise before they gave into cheap console-style ports and games.
That means, the original, Rogue Spear and RavenShield for PC.
In other words, the GOOD ones.
There's still nothing about the game that compels people to go out and commit those in-game acts, in fact, it's real life compelling them to play the game.
Or maybe the ban starts in 2008.
As me and several other posters can tell you, no army uses CS to train it's troops.
Secondly, the Police force are not Soldiers. Sort of. Ish.
Thirdly, there isn't actually a third point to make.
or maybe you are talking out of your ass. ;P
Or not.
Methinks that they wouldn't go ahead and ban something that's so internationally accepted, right during the Olympics. That would be suicide. Then again...
Are you stoned? Or is it me? I really don't know..
I dunno. The Government kinda flipped when Video Games entered China.
You heard about the Online Addiction Clinic?
1. That's why I said 'or other tactical games' ;)
2. Well, anti-terrorist Police are, strictly speaking a mixture of Policeman and Soldier, this is talking about the combat, not espionage side of things, so I tend to refer to them as soldiers in this situation.
3. Yeah, I can't think of any other pionts either :)
Calm down mate. It's been a while since I read that article - I've probably mixed it up a bit somewhere.
Or gmod.
I think that online addiction clinics aren't unique just to China. I heard that there were programs and clinics being opened in South Korea, Amsterdam and Canada. Plus, y'know, people are dying because of online addiction. Measures need to be taken.
Thank you :P