
That gurgling sound you hear could be Jack Thompson's legal career swirling down the 'loo.
The frequent video game critic, already facing professional misconduct charges from the Florida Bar which could see him stripped of his license to practice law, has outraged a U.S. District Court judge by including images of men having sex in a document filed with the court last week.
It's difficult to fathom what Thompson was thinking, but here's how it all, um, went down:
As
GamePolitics has previously reported, Thompson has a pair of lawsuits underway against the Florida Bar in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida. One of the cases, presided over by Judge Adalberto Jordan, has been the recipient of a flurry of motions by Thompson in recent weeks.
In a
document filed with the court on September 19th, Thompson criticized the Bar for allegedly collaborating with Norm Kent, a criminal defense attorney from Fort Lauderdale. Thompson and Kent have a contentious legal history dating back nearly two decades. From Thompson's motion:
The Bar’s demonstrable mindset is that the “enemy of my enemy is my friend,” as indicated by The Bar’s enthusiastic, recidivist collaboration with Mr. Kent, over a twenty year period, at Thompson’s expense. Lunacy proceedings have been sought and secured, Bar complaints have recently been maintained for nearly three years.
Kent, who publishes the
National Gay News website, was criticized by Thompson in last week's court filing for "distribution of hardcore porn to anyone of any age." Not content to make that alleged point in writing, Thompson attached several gay porn pictures to his motion with Judge Jordan. The pictures apparently do not come directly from the National Gay News site, but rather are contained on sites linked from NGN's adult links section.
In any case, His Honor was not amused.
In an
order issued on Monday, Judge Jordan directed Thompson to show cause as to why he should not face sanctions, including possible contempt charges. Judge Jordan wrote:
The attached exhibit, which includes several graphic images of oral and genital sex between adult males, was filed electronically in the docket in this case, without prior permission from the court...
To the extent that the other attorney’s alleged conduct is in any way relevant... there was no need for Mr. Thompson to file these graphic images in the public record. A simple reference to the website and its alleged links would have sufficed...
Through his actions, Mr. Thompson made available for unlimited public viewing, on the court’s docketing system, these graphic images.
For this reason, by October 5, 2007, Mr. Thompson shall show cause why this incident should not be referred to the court’s Ad Hoc Committee on Attorney Admissions, Peer Review, and Attorney Grievance for appropriate action.
In the wake of Judge Jordan's order, Thompson has filed (at last count) four responses.
In the first, he proclaims that he is ready to go to jail over the issue:
Thompson may have more to say in his own defense as to his alleged contemptuous behavior, but at this juncture, with all respect, he does not apologize for nor regret what he has done... if this court desires to throw Thompson into jail for trying to sound the alarm in this dramatic fashion... then Thompson is prepared to go there.
In
another response Thompson likens his actions to those of a rather more famous American:
To hold Thompson in contempt for alerting the federal court system to the criminal activity... is akin to arresting Paul Revere, in 1775, for “disturbing the peace” with his midnight ride...
Via e-mail, Thompson told
GamePolitics:
I'm not the one in trouble. The judge found a certain lawyer's material obscene. I absolutely love it. This is the best thing to happen to me in a long, long time. Check my [case] filings, sweetie.
We have, and this isn't the first time Thompson has been warned by a court not to include suggestive photos in those case filings. An April 12th entry in the
Florida Supreme Court docket covering the Florida Bar's case against Thompson includes this notation:
...the Court notes that [Thompson] has attached inappropriate and pornographic materials to his petitions that are irrelevant to his arguments. Respondent is warned that should he continue to submit such inappropriate filings, the Court will consider imposing sanctions which may include, but are not limited to, a limitation on Respondent's ability to submit further filings without the signature of an attorney other than himself.
GP: As we said earlier, it's really hard to imagine what Thompson thought he might have been accomplishing by including the offending images.
What he has apparently succeeded in doing, however, is seriously upsetting the judge who must decide the merits of Thompson's attempt to block the Florida Bar from taking action against his license to practice law.
UPDATE: We've received comment from Norm Kent:
On a legal note, I am thinking most heterosexual lawyers... could better advocate their cause and arguments in the United States District Court than by... seeking, searching out and subsequently then downloading homoerotic images, that may or may not be found within our advertisers website content, over which I have no authority or control.
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Either he's an evil genius, or he's just insane. Either way, he'd make a good comic book villain.
My stomach hurts! Can I sue Jackhole for causing me distress?
I can NOT stop laughing.
Yes, it is eye-opening and brings great attention to your point... but it's also illegal and downright stupid.
I imagine in the next 48 hours there will be a response from JT on this very article saying
a) this action is a win for him;
b) he will gladly be a martyr for his cause; and
c) everyone posting comments here is not a lawyer and should shut up.
Seeing as the end of his legal career is now within plain site, I think we know that all three of those points are incorrect.
@ JT (preemptively): Just stop, please. You're embarassing yourself and your entire profession. This does not prove nor solve anything and will, in the end, be a footnote in the history of video games. Not one person capable of performing a Google search cares what you have to say anymore.
GP reported on GamerDad being hospitalized for heart surgery not long ago. This technically was not news related to any games or any political actions - it was a report on a guy who went to the hospital. But since the guy in question is a somewhat important part of the gaming and political scene it was entirely appropriate in my opinion that the story appear. Same thing here - if JT suffers disciplinary action as a result of this then it'll certainly have a major effect, so it is appropriate that we be informed of the series of events leading to any potential disciplinary issues.
I'm also curious - the crux of JT's argument against Kent is that Kent has adult content linked to his LAW website. If the links are off of NGN, and Kent does not advertise his legal business on NGN or otherwise use it to solicit business, then even if he owns the website it doesn't make him any different from any other operator of websites. And NGN, from what I gather from the story, doesn't have adult content on it but simply links to sites that do. So NGN isn't even specifically an adult-themed website.
I can see the argument if a lawyer was operating a pornographic website (even if done legally it does cast lawyers in a somewhat negative light. I'm not saying that it should definitely not be allowed, but it's an argument at least worth the arguing.) But Kent's website is apparently not pornographic. Even if its key theme is of a controversial topic, there's no wrongdoing that I can see.
You have done the unthinkable. You turned a cruddy morning into the best one ever. I owe you big time!
You're doing God's work, friend.
-P
So... he's pissing off the one person that can save his sorry ass form total annihilation?
Well, I guess we've got nothing to fear here.
Hmm...Suing a website because one of their links went to an adult site.
They definitely had some real misconceptions about how the internet works.
Lets see what he included....
A Goatse through time....
Actually he's more the equivalent of Miss South Carolina Teen Caitlin Upton, since it appears neither of them know their geography! :D
Actually, if he looks at the images with disgust rather than lust I think he'll be ok.
Case in point where he tried to get Gamepolitics shut down and the posters arrested as terrorists. Post sending the letter he was 100% assure of himself that we would all be rotting in a cell somewhere. And how did that work out for your Jackie?
actually in court documents they usually do (how ever everywhere else they dont)
And, oh, looky looky who has the first comment.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gaysouthflorida/2007/09/judge-spanks-so.h...
Aw, isn't that sweeeet? John Bruce figures if a story isn't in HIS favor, the journalist must be a bad journalist. Awwww....
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
Now we just have to sit back and enjoy the show.
Did that psych exam he took really clear him?
Uhhh, that doesn't seem right. I don't know much about history, but what I have heard was, he didn't do it. It was his partner, who was black, who warned everyone. While Paul Revere, himself, was drunk.
"Oh god, what do I do? They really have me backed into a corner here."
"..."
[Shoots self in foot]
"HAHAHA! MARVEL AT MY GENIUS! I HAVE WON, THREE CHEERS FOR THE RED WHITE AND BLUE! GOODBYE RAP MUSIC AND VIDJAGAMES!"
[passes out from blood loss]
And.
Maybe this was his way of coming out of the closet? XD
had to be said
How will he troll the web from jail?
So let me get this straight... Jack Thompson fights the good fight of keeping violent and sexual content out of the hands of minors by filing graphic pictures on a public website?
Of course he might say, "How many kids go to these sites and peruse legal matters?" To which there could be several replies; such as, "Most kids that read this hilarious story" "Children looking to research the legal system for school" "Many more kids that would go to the gay news website".
Oh, man, this is SO funny!! I swear if he had a knife he'd probably cut out his eyes to spite his mind.
@Soul Says: Obviously, he wasn't.
I really am at a loss for words, there's absolutely nothing I can say to top this.....
there are also "kids" that find this shit (legal info) more intresting then anything they have to pay for >_>
He loved the obscnene material? Hah.
Way to fail at the inter-tubes, Wacko Jack-o. Seriously, it's always been a pet peeve of mine when people don't know where one site ends and its links begin. Idiot. Or maybe he's just playing on other people's ignorances and he's just a liar. Neither one surprises me.
Maybe when he saw the pictures on external links (which I am sure, if you look on the website of this person he's taking to court - has a disclaimer about the content of external sites not being that site's responsibility) he got this feeling inside him, but could differentiate between anger and arousal?
I look forward to his antics during the coming Bar hearing :)
Sounds like he just made his homophobia public knowledge and just got another group of citizens on our side. Honestly, can you think of no nobler cause than stopping the linking of gay pr0n to potentially under-aged children? I cannot. War, starvation, and a collapsing economy have nothing ont he importance of this terror!
Anyone else think so?
Oh... oh man. This... I just... how.. why...
This man is insane. In-fucking-sane. At this rate, we won't have to wait for November.
2) He distributes gay porn to other men.
Conclusion: JT is a homosexual.
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
"O RLY?"
"YA RLY. You see, while I was watching 'The No Spin Zone' Bill discussed a video Bin Laden made and actually showed it on the air which means that he is a terrorist as is his employer."
judge: *FACEPALM*
Did he honestly think this would make his point more apparent? Why not be a normal human being and just explain the details of the pictures IN WORDS? Or does he think the judges can't read because they're 'in cahoots' with gamers, who he thinks can only read words like 'lol.'
This man is sickening. As if his previous acts didn't assure his downfall soon enough, this will definitely be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
I'm guessing the Florida Bar lion will bite his head completely off...
--Ray
"This is the best thing to happen to me in a long, long time. Check my [case] filings, sweetie."
"Sweetie?" He. Called. Dennis. Sweetie? JESUS, THIS MAN IS SCARING ME.
Jackie Boy, your career as a attorney is over.
Merry Christmas everyone!
Brilliant. Absolutly fucking brilliant day.
First Warren Jeffs is convicted, then Jack Thompson destroys his career in an instant.
"Is this a great country or what?" Oh yes. Yes, it is.
A prior post, apparently by John Bruce, had claimed that Mr. Kent was undergoing surgery. Despite the callous attitude John Bruce showed, and despite his penchance for outright lying and deceiving, I did go to Mr. Kent's law firm site and emailed him my wishes for a speedy recovery in case this was one of the rare times John Bruce was telling the truth.
I, too, have not heard back from him. And I can't recalling seeing Mr. Kent's posts lately, as I know he has posted here before.
Since the case is still active, I would ASSUME that Mr. Kent is alive and well enough to take part in legal proceedings? Or is that assumption incorrect? As you say, you haven't heard from him yet.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
When he is punished and Kent is not, he will cry favoritism and collusion or some other nonsense.
Except that, if it IS a tactic, anyone who's spent any time in law school would be able to tell that and use it AGAINST him.
This is the end my friends.... JT is heading down kicking and screaming the whole way.
I love how he tries to make himself a martyr out of it by saying he is willing to go to jail over it... over what JT finding porn in the adults only links? wow just wow.
Anyone gamers in Florida wanna have a party with me let me know lol.
I've no further info on his condition - it would be good to know that he is doing well.
Doesn't this make JT a distributor of porn to minors since anyone can view the dockets?
Way to JT, you became what you despised :lol:
Quite the memorable headline, isn't it?
"Through his actions, Mr. Thompson made available for unlimited public viewing, on the court’s docketing system, these graphic images."
Maybe I'm jumping the gun here but...is this court-documented proof of JT providing pornographic material on the internet without any form of age identification?
Like, not even a CREDIT CARD? =) (/wave JT's son)
There's so much comedy gold in this story, I don't know where to begin.
Someone should make a forum avatar of JT's head calling Dennis "Sweetie".
This is like waiting for the series finale of a comedy, but the network is putting it off for a couple of months, dropping 5 minute webisodes to keep us hooked. The end of the Yack Thompson Show should be well worth watching.
Also, pornography causes peadophilia!
"Recently an Assistant U.S. Attorney, licensed by The Florida Bar, traveled to
Michigan to have sex with what he thought was a five-year-old girl. He was able to make
that “hook-up” through the Internet, the same Internet through which obscene material is
made available to pedophiles. Any person with a brain, lawyer or not, knows that
obscene images made available through that same Internet are not only making such
encounters more frequent but also more desired. Anyone who can read the Attorney
General Edwin Meese’s Commission on Pornography Report knows the linkage between
pornography/obscenity and sexual crimes. Thompson has had the pleasure of sharing the
podium with Attorney General Meese at LSU Law School years ago on these issues at
the very moment that The Florida Bar was harassing Thompson the last time about this
successful activism against this sewage."
This is genius and wins my IRONY OF THE WEEK AWARD!!
To celebrate i'm off for a wank...
"Has it occured to anyone that this might be another tactic of his? If he pisses off the judge presiding over his case, he may have grounds to have the judge disqualified for bias against him, further delaying his disbarment."
Yeah I was thinking the same thing.
I can't believe Jack tried this. He even goes so far as to say that kids don't go to the Pacer site looking for porn. That is not the problem. The problem is that kids go to the Pacer site to look at court documents and now they may stumble across porn because of Thompson.
This is nuts and his disbarment can't come any sooner.
Par for the course.
Step 1: file a case
Step 2: piss of the judge
Step 3: whine when the judge throws the case out, claim bias
Step 4: profit?
The pictures apparently do not come directly from the National Gay News site, but rather are contained on sites linked from NGN’s adult links section.
So is the phone book company guilty of distributing porn to minors if an adult video store who's phone number is contained therein happens to sell to a minor? After all, they are providing you with the means to locate said porn store... /sarcasm
Jack, you're in so much shit right now..
I love the Ahminedejad reference in the first document. Technically, we can compare Jack to Ahminedejad, due to the fact that they blatantly resist the facts, even when they are staring at them right in the face. Comparing Jack to Paul Revere is like comparing a wolverine to a taco - there's nothing to compare.
Like I've always said, "The person that will ultimately lead to JT's downfall will be JT himself."
I even clicked on the links, and while I'm straight, it's obvious these links are for porn and the ads themselves do not show anything inapropriate or indecent, until you actually click on the links. But, ads for porn are everywhere on the web and considering these look like Google ads, I'm actually surprised Jack Thompson didn't try and bring Google into the mix as well.
I have a family member that is gay and I find Mr. Thompson's actions and comments obviously descriminitory and a blantant attempt to make a mockery of the judicial system.
You Mr Thompson will get what you deserve once Judge Jordan and the Florida Bar get done with you. I hope you enjoy a long time in jail for contempt. Oh, and remember, don't bend over for the soap!
LAWL
How he hasn't been banned from practicing law by now is beyond my comprehension. The day he is, though, will be the happiest day of my life.
What was he doing looking at homosexual material anyway?
...I...uh...well...I guess if you gotta go, go with style. Maybe the crater that Jack leaves behind will become a tourist attraction.
...That came out wrong. But, yeah, I'm not really sure how this would have ever seemed like a good idea to JT. Perhaps the intricacies of his plan are such that I cannot divine them; this is entirely possible. But it's also entirely possible that his plan is such that no one outside of JT's own twisted logic can fully divine it. That'd either mean that JT is the smartest person on the planet, or that he's insane. I'm guessing that he's not the smartest man on the planet.
Well, they are both hated figures in Britain. Thing is though, Paul Revere is popular in the US, JT is not.
"Comparing Jack to Paul Revere is like comparing a wolverine to a taco"
Best laugh I've had all week!
I want a wolverine taco now. Topped with Jackie boy's special legalese BS sauce.
Just becareful with that sauce. It has a bad after taste.
Good lord. The man is the single most self-deluded inconsequential comedian I've ever encountered.
Sometimes I wonder if Jack has some kind of Legal version of the Magic 8-Ball.
It's not even that. His filings can be basically resumed as "The Florida Bar likes Norm Kent better than me but look Norm Kent's internet site has links to gay porn sites so I'm right! Here's proof, images from the porn sites!"
Do we have to read everything about this lawyer, just because he's badmouthing videogames? I think not. It's off topic. Please let's focus on the game controversies and keep our eyes on the ball. That lawyer isn't the ball. Symbolically speaking - that lawyer is just one player on the field, and right now he's munching popcorn, sitting at the sidelines, playing Phoenix Wright on his DS.
Watch that ball. Watch the teams.
OH GOD
Jack Thompson, always ready to give gamers a hearty laugh.
You just answered your own question. "Watch that ball. Watch the teams."
Technically Thompson IS the other team so we have to watch him. Albeit, slightly out there and not a good spokesman against our "team" but still an opponent nonetheless.
And even if you don't consider him the entire team, he is still a player on that team and if you watch the team, it means watching the players that make up that team.
Even then, it is still hilarious.
Best quote is this one i think
"I’m not the one in trouble. The judge found a certain lawyer’s material obscene. I absolutely love it. This is the best thing to happen to me in a long, long time."
Remind anyone else of the old Iraqi information minister? (who was busy proclaiming victory even as the capital city centre was falling)
It's highly amusing that jack actually thinks he's winning when it's blatantly obvious to everyone else that he's failing miserably in the most stunning way possible.
I think what this boils down to in part is things we cannot see, Thompson is famous for harassing people, not just them, but their families, their employers etc, he's actually pretty much a stalker, he's already harassed Dennis' employer and left some really creepy messages on his home phone, and it's not the only case, I'm sure people remember the 'I know who you are, I know where you live' comment he made on Tycho's cell phone at PAX.
So I think it's partly about Jack involvement with Video Games and partly to do with the fact that he finally recieving the payback for all the hatred he has spewed at those who don't agree with him over the years, and I wouldn't be surprised if there IS a hint of satisfaction for Dennis to report this, Jack tried to destroy (and that's a direct quote) his opponents through various nefarious means on numerous occasions, and all he's succeeded in doing is destroy himself.
You're making him up aren't you?!!!
It's getting so ridiculous that I'm actually wondering whether i'm reading a comedy blog disguised as a gaming politics blog.
It's like watching the farce escalate in an old episode of fawlty towers or something
:D
Seriously, y'know what I think he should do. Before filing any motion, he could consult his wife or close friends. He should ask them 'does this sound alright?' or 'Would it be a good idea to do this?'. At the very least, he'd look less insane. Come on, John. Submitting gay porn with a court filing? How does that play into anything?
We understand you don't like gay people, and y'know what? That's fine. I don't care what you like or don't like, but before you do something like this, you could at the very least consult somebody regarding what you're doing.
You'll be less of a laughing stock that way.
Why do we even give this loser the time of day any more?
He finally realised his political career is going nowhere, so he's trying to break in to the comedian profession. (certainly makes me laugh)
It all makes sense now! ;)
Still.. whatever happened to the bar complaints? Wasn't there supposed to be a hearing on Jack's behavior earlier this month? I really wanted to get news of that today (or at least this month).
I'm not so hot on the gay porn in a professional resource, but I suppose there are some other objectionable images there albeit for more appropriate reasons. Regardless: *slow clap*
-Auto
You've just got to be astounded at the man's delusions of grandeur. To compare himself with Paul Revere? Giving an advance warning about an imminent attack by enemy forces and warning against people of an alternative lifestyle are two very different things, but I guess Jack's mind makes no such distinction. :P
I think Jack has more in common with Mahmoud Amhadinejad than he would care to admit. Both men are known to make bold, outrageous statements wich they have no intention of backing up or following through on. As was noted earlier, they refuse to face the facts in spite of overwhelming and obvious evidence. And finally, both are due to get a good thumping soon from all indications. I think JT might want to consider moving to Iran and applying for a position in his cabinet after he loses his license. They'd probably get along great!
One difference though: Amhadinejad was willing to visit a country that was largely hostile to him and where there was probable cause to fear for his life. Yet Jack wouldn't go to PAX because he feared for his safety from hostile gamers. Say what you will about Mahmoud, but I at least have to give him some credit for that.
"I'm not the one in trouble..."
Man, what denial!
This made my morning, thanks for the laugh Dennis.
1) He's already been warned.
2) He attached the obscene material WITHOUT getting prior permission from the court. He has also since the second warning, provided no solid REASON to include said images.
3) Jack's got to be even dumber than he thinks since the images weren't from Kent's site, but rather a site that Kent's site LINKS to, and it is noted as being listed under "Adult Links". Jack has absolutely no ground to stand on.
4) He said he's willing to go to jail if it means not backing down from his beliefs.
Guess we'll be seeing him in the slammer. I can't wait! :D
~Otaku-Man
Just a tiny bit.
My point is that during the McCarthy era, even being neutral to anti-communism was considered supporting communism. The smallest aspects of peoples lives were used to defame and ultimately to marginalize "unsavory" people. Jack Thompson is basically acting out the entire McCarthy era in his ongoing tirade on whatever he believes offends him.
Just like in the McCarthy era, if you arent part of the solution (IE You arent buying into Thompson's hysteria) you are part of the problem (basically everyone and everything else).
Then this. Oh man. "Jack Thompson, disbarred and facing criminal contempt charges for sending gay porn to a judge." That just sums it all up. Not only is his LEGAL career done for, his PUBLIC career is pretty much going down with the ship. Sic transit Jack Thompson.
One more pun for the pile, heh. I just got done reading The Snapper, so Irish slang is fresh in my mind.
Oh, an why don't you tell the kiddies what the Judge called this material, what legal term he used? You have purposely deleted the "o" word from the Judge's description. Shame on you, Denny Doo.
Jack Thompson
GP: yada, yada... Jack's point (if you can call it that) here is that Judge Jordan called the pix obscene. And in Jack's mind that means that Kent was illegally purveying obscene material.
Except that the pix were not on Kent's site. They were on a site linked to from Kent's site under a heading that was clearly labeled "adult."
Bt that logic, GP is pushing those same images, since we linked Kent's site in the article.
And just like McCarthy, JT is being undone by his own zealotry. His picking on Halo 3 is the equivalent of McCarthy's picking on Fred Fisher. All we need is a Joseph Welch equivalent to yell at him, "You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?" and we're done. :)
For some reason, Firefox refuses to display pdfs for. Saving and viewing them in Acrobat works for me.
BTW, Jack. Sidewinder would like to inform you that only people with mental disorders or minimal IQ would speak about themselves in third person. The shrink cleared you, so Sidewinder thinks that the latter option is more likely.
(Paul Revere, did he have something to do with the American revolution?)
"The British are coming! The British are coming!"
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2186/jackthompsonhardgaynm1.jpg
I would like to think that legislators and news producers wouldn't listen to a man that was disbarred. Being disbarred is like being given a dishonorable discharge from the military in my mind.
Jack maybe an incompetent lawyer, but without his own license he would find it difficult to file claims like his ridiculous effort to have Halo 3 declared a public nuisance. True, he could still do it, but do you really think a claim from a disbarred attorney (even if he had other representation) would hold much water in court? More importantly, he couldn't leech onto some unfortunate people who just lost a child in a violent crime and convince them that a video game pulled the trigger.
But hey, he's willing to go to jail over this, so I say we let him. Maybe then he'll learn what true criminals are and what truly motivated them.
Please die.
....
And if you try to sue me, I live outside that legal hell call USA.
So, do not waste my time.
Step 2: Show said pictures around to everyone in an inappropriate fashion???
Step 3: Profit?!
No, it's more like arresting Paul Revere, after he tries to warn the British are coming, by shooting fellow Americans...
He provided advanced warning of British troop movements for the opening battles of the American Revolution. The result was a nasty surprise for the British.
Its different for "Men of God"- they exist to push God's agenda. They call themselves "Culture Warriors", but I think their actions and fanatacism is more akin to "Culture Terrorist".
I have said it before, but JT is about as "Christian" as Jim Jones, David Koresh or Fred Phelps. He is an extremist, nothing more.
Sweet damn you are a delusional fuck. Yes the judge called the pictures obscene. The pictures that YOU put into a legal document were obscene. YOU provided pornographic material to the judge. YOU are in trouble. I know you've been railing your whole career against personal responsibility, but everything here does seem to point to YOU.
Jack Thompson provided these obscene photos, not Norm Kent. Well see how much fun you have with a contempt charge held against you.
It wouldn't stop him, but it would sure as hell kill his credibility. If he got disbarred for any of the reason they've listed, he'd pretty much be blacklisted. Nobody would want an attorney who was disbarred the way he would be as a "close advisor" or "expert witness".
Having fun? Looking at gay porn.
Man, I don't even NEED to come up with a punchline for that one.
-P
Old hat really.
But this, This is right up there with supenaing GWB in the department of ridiculous legal stunts.
Let's say for the hell of it that Kent did in fact have pornography on his website. How is this an issue relating to his personal legal troubles?.
That has got to be one of the creepiest things I've ever read.
He doesn't have an actual job. He's not a member of any law firm I'm aware of, and it's been decades since he did any legal work for money.
I'm sure the judge would not be pleased at Jack's self-confessed attempts to game the legal system at their expense if he read that.
Oh, an why don’t you tell the kiddies what the Judge called this material, what legal term he used? You have purposely deleted the “o” word from the Judge’s description.
Yeah, and way to go leaving out the "d" from "and". :P
Shame on you, Denny Doo. Jack Thompson
Again, this coming from someone who's supposed to be a professional. ::rolleyes::
Among his bloopers, this has got to be the deed that ends his career.
@Orange Soda
I agree 100%
Jack Thompson distributing gay porn through public records corrupts children.
Now, I'm not educated in law but I do have a few things about this that make me curious:
How can a website linked to another website through a 3rd party script be construed as a concious act of soliciting adult material? First: the linked website is not, by any other means than word association, run/operated/owned by Kent. Second: the script used to generate the adds is based on a search engine, which means that the links generated are based on "meta" tags and, without changing the script to the search engine, there is no way you can filter out all adult related material. Third: would this not then indicate that he [Thompson] could then bring not only Kent but; the company in charge of the advertisment script [Google], and each and every adult linked site through the advertisment script to court for makinging adult related material accessible to children?
Such a broad term for Thompson to make an allegation surely means that there is something behind these tactics. Either he is trying to pull off some "coup de grace" to his own carrer or he is going to try to pull off some stunt which, in light of these actions, will send him spiraling like a suicide bomber towards the Atlantic...
@GP: considering the wording that Thompson used in his comments to you, wouldn't it be appropriate to take actions to either stop or, using the same excessive force, bring Thompson up on sexual harrasment charges?
"sweetie"
Suure it is.
You planned on looking like a Douche, right?
Hey thompson, is that Dominos Pizza down the street still hiring Delivery Boys? Maybe you can work for them.
theres nothing to say hes fucking lost it
the marbles are rolling down the street as we speak
(and it sounds like hes ready to start dating dennis) we will cover you dennis head for the hills!!!
Either he is nuts or that porn has changed him.
"OOOOOH WAAH AHH AHH!"
-David Draiman.
GREAT MOVE JACK
No! Jack, don't! We need you to ridiculize the anti-video-game cause! Come back! Please!
Franckly this made my day. I'm going to have to hunt down some lesbian porn now, before JT's goatse'ing of the whole universe.
Considering that only 5 days ago Jack Thompson filed a motion for an injunction on the sale of Halo 3 until such time as it could be declared a "public nuisance" under Florida law, he's very much an important part of "Game Politics" today. His meltdown is equally important since he is someone that has helped draft numerous bills, crafted several lawsuits and attempted to bar the sale of many games because of their harm to minors.
Also, only 3 of the 20 stories on the front page involve JT...and this has been a busy week for him too, what with three legal actions (or threats of legal action) going on at once. I hardly think that qualifies as being "Jack Thompson Politics".
It's my understanding that paper filings (the sort of things that can be submitted to an automated system) are only supposed to be clear, factual TEXT statements of one side's position.
Pictures are not text; they're evidence. Evidence is not entered into the public record until the judge has reviewed it and determined whether it is: A.) relevant to the case, and B.) suitable for the public record.
If my understanding (as stated above) is correct, then Thompson attempted to do an end-run around a Judge's authority to enter these pictures into evidence and the court record - something that is a very serious breach of protocol and procedure.
That is what disbarments are made of...
hes gone . . . he cant come back
just wave goodbye and relax, we have won this battle without lifting a finger
So you're now proud of having submitted obscene material to a publicly viewed venue?
Shame on you, you pervert.
Way to shoot yourself in the foot.
Jack, they might not have taught you this in lawyer school, but I'll let you know: obscenity is a CRIMINAL charge. You are potentially facing CRIMINAL charges.
If you'd like, I can explain to you what CRIMINAL means.
Some extremist that blow themselves up are considered martyrs by other extremists.
I’m not the one in trouble. The judge found a certain lawyer’s material obscene. I absolutely love it. This is the best thing to happen to me in a long, long time. Check my [case] filings, sweetie."
...Thompson has obviously decided to come out of the closet. "sweetie"? Saying he "absolutely love[s] it" in reference to the submission of hardcore gay porn?
Congratulations, Jack. It's always a hard thing, when someone finally comes out. It's even harder when they're a public entity like yourself. How will your children take it, though?
True, but Jack doesn't have a religion or anything else backing him. No politician is going at this with the same mouth-frothing fervor that this moron is.
He'll be a martyr to no one.
I have a hard time understanding how what he does doesn't impact his wife's career. I know she's a SUCCESSFUL lawyer with a firm... but as I understand it, legal is a pretty tight. How can she go day-to-day with an albatross like him around her neck?
yes, defends the kids and public from violent and sexy videogames, yet sends gay porn to a judge?
Keeps getting better.
Just when I thought he couldn't dig his grave any deeper.
Just wow.
I already knew he was insane, but this is just a whole new level of crazy. There's no question he'll get disbarred now.
@jdecamp
I'm with you.
*popcorn* *soda*
"This man produces disgusting gay pornography and sells it to children. Hardcore porn such as this: (Shows it on a projector)
And this:
*Click*
and this:
*click*
and even this
*click*
Mr. Thompsan is this really necessary?
Yes
*click*
You feel good about making pornography free available to children?
You feel good about sending gay porn to another man?
You feel good about being unproffessional?
Man, I didn't think it would only be a few days!!! Jack can't even follow through with his own promises.
"The Thompson are coming! The Thompson are coming!"
"When you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy."
You weren't the only one trust this anon, really.
Come on Jack, you can do better than that.
Would be fun seeing him getting v&ed though.
Judge: Mr. Thompson, you do realize you are committing a felony by showing obscene material in a courtroom without prior permission, right?
JT: It's freedom of speech! I have a right! Don't oppress my religion you hack! I want your job! You were paid off by the industry! I'll bet you are in league with teh gays! Child molester!
Judge: *sigh* Bailiff, fetch me some Tylenol, this is going to be a long day...
I’m not sure if some of the people got this, but from the way I was reading it, he didn’t just e-mail the judge some gay porn, he put it up on the website for just about anyone to see.
He filed it in the docket along with a tirade against Kent and the Bar for "looking the other way", prosecuting Thompson for being a tool, while "letting" Kent "distribute" gay porn to children (through some weird and convoluted logic involving links that Thompson seems to have spent quite some time 'researching' on Kent's website)
Like u know the politicians doing everything in power to ban gays but later on are found out to be gay.
Hehe well now we know jack thompson surfs the internet for gay porn. I wonder what else he has on his laptop? Hot coffee?
bwahahahaha
(my guess is this why you havent gotten a response from kent, hes in shock lol)
Some have commented and said that he has become what he fights. I would say in some ways he is infinitely worse than any version of the enemy he could pull up. JT is a devious hypocrite, going against all that he is preaching is wrong. He is using explicit content to light a powder keg for what he believes is his benefit, a profiteer more massive than Rockstar could ever manage. Rockstar believes their content is desired and fit for a consumer base. JT is literally slapping the county, and by proxy the world with his smug arrogance to any principles whatsoever.
As others (including the judge) have said, this was for everyone to see. Giving the judge a baggie of smegma or feces would have served his purpose more than the photos. What if the website in question had been using youthful looking computer generated/edited images, young looking models instead of gay men, or a cooperative venture with Dateline NBC? He would have truly become someone worth castrating IMO. With good reason.
Tip in case you do end in prison at any point JT. Don't let your pants sag, that's code in prison meaning "I am available". Also, avoid allowing yourself to be labeled as a punk. If anything, declare you are a jocker. The soap thing is obvious. When the cell stops laughing, pick a fight and hope you win. You have to show you are crazy early on.
Of course he's in shock. Jack just admitted to willfully browsing gay sex websites.
*Jack kills someone*
Random Person (RP): "What have your done!? Are you insane?"
Jack: "Why thank you."
RP: "What? This isn't a good thing!"
Jack: "Yes. Isn't it wonderful?"
RP: "I'm gonna call the cops!"
Jack: "Oh? Let me help."
RP: "Get away from me!"
@ Father Time
I can totally see that happening. I see it clear as a bell like it's on TV right now.
It hurt itself in its confusion!
How does riding a horse in the middle of the night equate to distributing and making publicly available hardcore gay pr0n? AFAIK, even 'net nanny' programs or filtering content wouldn't catch this, because it is hosted on a public government website, so anyone can view it?
Congrats Jacko. Bravo.
I know you can't still be alive to be an hero, but Jacko really is doing his damnedest to be the exception to that rule.
He's either trying to discredit Norm by saying "LOOK! He's Teh Ghey!", which is a losing tactic as it just showcases Jack's bigotry, or he's trying to circumvent a Judge's authority to decide what is entered as evidence. It is in no way relevant to the case at hand.
If he's trying to say Norm Kent is pushing porn... he's only linking to it, under an "Adults" section. Its nothing somebody couldn't find by googling "gay porn".
If he's trying to circumvent the judge's authority... well, we can all see where that one will go.
The only thing I can see that's good for Thompson out of all this is that he'll maybe get some mental help. Like the child who breaks things in a plea for attention, this may be another cry for help from ol' JBT.
Jack Thompson
GP: "e-tards?" Such a class act...
Anyway, for the readers' benefit, Jack's big news is that he wrote a letter to the US Attorney down there demanding an investigation. Don't hold your breath waiting for that one.
Also, the NGN site has apparently removed its Adult Links, at least for now. Jack sees this as a big win.
Wow. I wish I had something to add, I couldn't even come up with a long list of @ replies...
@Jack:
Don't drop the soap! :D
Meanwhile, the 'evidence' submitted is also apparantly not relevant to the case. As the judge said; "To the extent that the other attorney’s alleged conduct is in any way relevant…", implying that the legal relevance of the submission is extremely debatable.
Jack (ass) Thompson lives in a completely different universe. How he thinks he is winning, or even accomplishing anything useful is totally beyond me.
Oh Dennis, September is almost over, so when is Jacks hearing ?
I'd hate to be the (court-appointed) shrink that has to sort through that mess.
@DoggySpew:
At least it's only proverbial, or he would've bled to death long ago.
You could also say he keeps putting his foot into his mouth. I think he's up to his thigh by now, though.
Jack, someone else's so-called "evil" behavior is not an excuse for your own asshattery.
Yeah, seeing the Party V& knocking on his door would be very lulzy. Or hearing a report how he became an hero.
Unfortunately we kinda need him. God forbid we get a crusader that's actually effective in his attempts to b& violent (if not all) video games.
His behavior makes perfect sense to a someone suffering from paranoid delusions and narcissism. Once you combine them like that you basically get somebody who not only believes everything against them is a conspiracy, but that these things are specifically a conspiracy AGAINST THEM.
From that point, the patient will occasionally veer into the deep end by doing things like burning down the house because "that will show them".
This page sounds like it's describing him, amusingly enough (but not surprising):
http://www.mentalhealth.com/book/p45-para.html#Head_2
This is my favorite quote: "They tend to confirm their expectations by latching on to any speck of evidence that supports their suspicions and ignore or misinterpret any evidence to the contrary."
We might take for example of this his soon to appear denial of this fact. Honored gentlemen and survivors of the pits of humanity's deepest cespool (currently closed due to a contamination by the "n00b" virus), we have here a man so arogant that he will keep on denying arguments in his very own defense.
Pity this being, and let him meet the natural end of all things.
May you one day rest in peace, Mister Thompson, the video game industry salutes you as one of its biggest helpers ever. Both developpers and gamers will weep your v&'ing, and rest assured that this anon will always keep your best bouts of insanity and inanity in his heart, to contemplate on the folly of mankind.
And allow me once again to ask for this man to pass this trial without receiving any punishment. He has already been punished enough by himself.
This anon will try his best to follow the unfolding of this tragedy were an industry he loves and respects will find its dearest undercover agent fall.
I have to agree. I mean, taking joy in one's own destruction? Masochism's not normally seen as a noble and proud trait to possess. It's certainly not something one would want to go flaunting at a time like this, as Jack seems eager to do.
We /need/ that edit button really, when I'm better, I'll check out all the mistakes I did in my little BS'ing right above...
this is a real person some of his exploits are also covered at www.overlawyered.com (but usually they try and stick cases not the lawyers)
"Alright class, now today we will be learning about Democracy in action. Now, I want you all to log into your computers and access the public goverment filing website.
Hey, what's Billy looking at?"
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umm he does understand that this will no doubt guarantee his disbarment
lmao
And that is one of the biggest problems I have with Jack. It's not just that he's unprofessional, deluded and insufferably self-righteous - although those are also big factors - it's that the companies he targets allow themsleves to be intimidated by him when they should know better by now. At this point, everybody knows he's all bark and no bite and a great many of his accusations can be countered with a minimum of effort. They should do like we do when he's threatened us and respectfully (or not so respectfully) say, "fuck off!" But no. Companies, because they're scared to death of being sued in the first place, don't want to take any chances. So they cover their asses and bow to the pressure, however slightly. It happened before when he threatened Wikipedia over his entry two years ago, and it's happening again with NGN.
Unfortunately, Jack knows this and takes advantage of it. When they play into his hands like this, he eagerly laps up and savors every little perceived "victory" he can. It's that very behavior that makes him so reprehensible as a lawyer. As has been said before, he's a poster child for tort reform, representing the worst aspects of our legal system.
To paraphrase Douglas Adams, I'd like to think he'll be among the first against the wall when the revolution comes. ;)
He tried to take him and another out with a spike grenade. The only problem?
He missed.
Uhhh Jackie boy, when someone gets murdered you don't attach their severed head to the case file.
I think you might want to get someone to second chair your case, that way someone could inform you that a judge demanding you show cause or face contempt charges definitely qualifies as trouble.
Also good call with the Paul Revere metaphor, you can really draw a lot of parallels between homophobia and a foreign invasion.
I wonder if Jack Thompson believes this filing to be some kind of legal loophole.
I.E. How can he (Jack Thompson) have any charges brought against him for allowing gay pornographic material to be "made available for unlimited public viewing" without having charges also brought against National Gay News for allegedly performing the same act.
ummm most lawyers stay far away from anyone facing disbarrment
he would have a better chance jumping out a window and flying then getting a lawyer to second chair
i think even the janitor would stay away from jacky
Jack Thompson
Well Jack, let me explain something to you. Nobody on this planet actually takes you seriously. So you can call for every investigation you want, but let's face it, you're gonna be ignored.
You haven't had a 'success' in 10 years, so let's face it, your record's pretty shitty.
You are a snake and a liar,
Austin Lewis.
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Jack Thompson
GP: “e-tards?” Such a class act…
Anyway, for the readers’ benefit, Jack’s big news is that he wrote a letter to the US Attorney down there demanding an investigation. Don’t hold your breath waiting for that one."
So "the worm turning in his favor" is yet another letter. Man this motherfucker really loves to take inventory of poultry prehatching doesn't he? Jack, you sending a letter isn't a big development, its par for the course.
Yet again you feel it necessary to travel down the same sorry rode as you have many many times before. That rode being claiming victory before victory is assured.
Come back when you have something relevant Jack.
The relevance of this advice will become clear in the end.
You sir win the internet.
It's possible NGN removed the links because they were being clicked over-often and were either warned by the Sponsors, or decided it was better to remove them before they got blacklisted.
It might not be the case, but I've certainly seen sites Blacklisted by Google Ads for exactly that.
I mean, I'm not saying anything, but Jesus said that if your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out rather than go to hell, but here we are, and Johnny boy's got both peepers in spite of all the gay porn he's consuming.
"I'm not wearing any pants. Is that a crime?" -- Phil Ken Sebben
"Um, yes... yes it is." -- Mentok
resemble the ramblings of a sociopath. He should be
disbarred so that he stops harassing people, manipulating
the legal system in bad faith, and tying up valuable resources.
Do you find it comical that you don't have to scour the internets for teh stories because Jack brings them right to your 'doorstep'?
Kudos, GP. As that guy from those beer commercials says, "BRILLIANT!"
His career has gone under since he first started his drug-induced anti games crusade. Now that it's finally over and there's light at the end of the tunnel, Jack's trying to go out with a bang.
Calling us 'kiddies' doesn't help your claim that you're not a pedophile. And this stunt with gay porn just sealed the deal: The "bisexual pedophile" bit turns out to be true.
??…Ace beats Jack?