October 30, 2007
With the Manhunt 2 launch now upon us, influential video game violence critics are weighing in.California State Sen. Leland Yee (D), architect of his state's contested video game law, has issued a press release urging parents to boycott Manhunt 2. Said Yee:
Not surprisingly, this game is being released on Halloween. Halloween already presents many safety concerns for parents. With the release of Manhunt 2, parents will now face a new challenge from the purveyors of violence.
It is imperative that parents avoid purchasing this game for their children and always review the video games their children are playing. Ultra-violent, interactive video games such as Manhunt 2 can have negative effects on our children.




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NO ONE IS MAKING YOU BUY THE GAME! IF YOUR KIDS ASK FOR IT, JUST SAY NO! IF THAT'S TOO HARD, THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE KIDS IN THE FIRST PLACE! THERE ARE PARENTAL CONTROLS ON 80% OF CONSOLES NOW, USE THEM!!!
Jesus H. Tap-dancing Christ. Just lock your kids up in the basement an be done with it.
I just want to slap fellow parents who freak out about Halloween... 99% of the crap they worry about is either a hoax, or hyped up. It's a fun night for kids of all ages, and if you're smart, you'll be fine.
Most importantly:
"It is imperative that parents avoid purchasing this game for their children and always review the video games their children are playing."
I can't agree more. If every parent was putting in the due diligence on their child's entertainment, there wouldn't be any need to restrict adults from purchasing entertainment aimed at adults.
I give him a chance and we will see. I rather have an enemy that CAN consider alternatives and common agreements than a stubborn-as-a-mule zealot who shall remain nameless.
Before you buy something in a box for your child, look at the box.
Love,
Common Sense
What challenge? Being responsible? Monitoring what their children watch/play/listen to? Wow, with all the stuff parents do, it's terrible to heap this NEW AND NEVER BEFORE SEEN concern on them... (*sarcasm detector explodes*)
"It is imperative that parents avoid purchasing this game for their children"
Captain Obvious swoops into action! No-one ever suggested buying this game for kids.
"and always review the video games their children are playing."
True. They should be doing this without being told to by a politician in the first place, just as they should review the books/films/albums etc. that their children consume.
"Ultra-violent, interactive video games such as Manhunt 2 can have negative effects on our children."
Unproven and alarmist. Perhaps combined with other much higher risk factors such as childhood abuse, bullying, mental problems, etc. But if this is the case, then the poor kid has much bigger problems than playing a video game with pictures of make believe characters killing each other. The worst that would happen from a normal well adjusted kid playing a violent video game is exactly what would happen with a violent film, finding out about topics before they should "Daddy, what does "F*%$" mean?"
Anyone remember the South Park movie? One of the key messages in the end was when Kyle told his mother, who had started a movement against Canada because of the profanity her son was using around the house, to punish him instead of the rest of the world whenever he did something wrong.
Now, if a couple of cardboard cutouts can make a timeless remark like that about our society, I think parents ought to start paying attention.
I'm not sure where the problem is-Yee, or the simple brained uber-liberal buffoons who voted for him who may not be able to think on their own all that well anyway.
And the fact that none of his voters have even READ A Clockwork Orange.
His using of the term "Ultra-Violent" disgusts me.
LOOK AT THE FREAKING BOX!! ARGH!
From waht I have observed of R* games, the "children" that play them are almost always teens. I have yet to meet anyone under the age of 12 that has played the first Manhunt. I doubt many of them would like it.
So when they define "children" maybe I will give more time to their arguments. Right now it seems they are claiming children to be 17 year olds.
E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
Random Tower: Game News and Commentary
Or every R or NC-17 movie on the market, for that matter.
we have a saying from the playground: No duh.
I'm with you on the whole Halloween scare. I had to explain to my wife that no one has ever been poisoned by tainted candy picked up trick or treeting.
I even read on Faux News about how Halloween is going to be dangerous because of pedophiles.
Boy people just love to have the living daylight scared out of them over even the minute possibility of danger.
I also read recently that Mass. will now require all candy machines (the quarter loose candy machines) be registered to prevent terrorist threats.
E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
Random Tower: Game News and Commentary
Thank you Captain Obvious!!! At least this sentence made sense.
For those parents who are active in what their kids do I say; Thank you, thank you very much.
Instead, all he did was notify parents that they should not allow their children to play/purchase this game and that they should always be reviewing the games their children are playing. He's one of the few that I think genuinely wants to ensure a good system for keeping children away from games they shouldn't be playing. Yes, he tried to pass some bad legislation, but I think he's learning that parents are a big part of the problem too.
Around the same time Christmas became a commercial feading frenzy of consumerism.
you are right. Yee seems to be the most level headed opponent the game industry has. He also seems to be on the industry's side at times, but I guess that is when you really must watch him closely.
Although his stetements here are fine and dandy, he still holds views of the industry that are not true and I don't doubt that he will try to pass further legislation as well.
E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
Random Tower: Game News and Commentary
"Instead, all he did was notify parents that they should not allow their children to play/purchase this game and that they should always be reviewing the games their children are playing."
I agree, it's good that he alerted the parents that they should be doing this, but then he has to tag on the obligatory "games are harmful" spiel at the end, singling out games as worse than movies/music/books, etc.
I commend him for trying to get the message to parents that the game is not for kids. I do not commend however, this scaremongering that follows. I would not want kids to play the game, not because I believe it will turn them into killers, but because the content is inappropriate.
its alreaddy all been said a hundred times over, so i'm just going to go ahead and ensure that when i have kids, i raise em properly, and keep them away from
a. things that will damage their development (like some M rated games, films, etc...)
b. people who dont know what M rated means.
-Jack Thompson
-Gordon Brown
-Susan Linn
-Leland Yee
I don't think i'm ready to say no more people will have a go..
Right, and with all the bullshit that people are scared of, real issues get pushed aside. Like the neccessity of good vision in your kids costume, and either bright colors or lights, etc. Or at the least, the parent should be in bright colors. My uncle (lowercase 'u' indicates no blood relation, just college buddy of my Dad's) hit and killed a kid in his car on Halloween many years ago - kid was un-escorted, dark colored costume, in a full-face mask with tiny eye slits (if any 1 of those thing was different, that kid would be roughly as old as me today).
I only bring this up to remind that, yes, there ARE dangers for kids, but notice one thing: Parents can prevent most, if not all, of the 'dangers' with almost NO effort. Especially the real dangers. Not just the perceived ones, like video games.
You have nailed the real dangers of Halloween. The percieved dangers that listed are the ones that get people's panties in a twist unfortunately.
E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
Random Tower: Game News and Commentary
it is one of those new Dream date clones. You know where girls get all dressed up and go to the mall to meat their dream man. /sarcasm
E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
Random Tower: Game News and Commentary
It appears so. :)
E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
Random Tower: Game News and Commentary
E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
Random Tower: Game News and Commentary
What a douche.
You're still a jackass.
To parents out there, just say no. They may throw a tantrum, but saying no after that is called parenting. It's a fact of life. No is a GOOD word.
Though I will say this, and I hope JT sees it. Notice that Yee isn't personally here to throw temper tantrums on the boards. to quote Dana Gould, maybe he's . . . AT WORK!
It's hard to tell if he ever IS at work or not. His posting patterns are incredibly erratic here. I remember seeing posts from him from all hours of the day and night, from 9 in the morning to 7 at night to 4 in the morning...
also, if i remember correctly, he has a work-in home office. Don't quote me on that, though.
Life is strange sometimes.
Did you see the spin on that ball?
While I agree with you that Yee *does* have some misconceptions about the industry, and that he probably will still try to legislate it, you have to pick your battles.
I would just hate to see his inbox getting spammed by hundreds of profanity-laced e-mails from angry gamers when he's really not that bad. I just think it's better to deal with the guys that are way out in left-field first, such as "He who will not be named" and those that keep asking him to be on TV. Once you deal with the big threats and clean up the industry's enforcement issues a relative moderate (in this debate anyway) like Yee will be much easier to tackle.
I've noticed, for example, that ever since he was on the Starr Jones show he's dropped the "We need parental controls" line. I'm guessing that after the smack was laid down by the ESA lawyer he went and checked and saw that yes, they were there. That's why I would like to see people lay off a bit...he's someone who actually seems to *listen* to the gaming crowd. Profanity-laced tirades and insults will likely make him stop though...
Every time he talks I die a little more on the inside.