
"Enough with the watchdog people."
So says Mike Antonucci, who covers games for the San Jose Mercury-News:
[The watchdogs] haven’t done much for their credibility in their super-extreme reaction to “Manhunt 2.”
...Common Sense Media, for instance, isn’t alerting or informing parents about a decision that parents have to make. Its press release says it “is warning parents and educators to keep all versions of Rockstar Games’ ‘Manhunt 2? out of the hands of children and teens.”
California Senator Leland Yee... did a little better when he “urged parents to avoid purchasing ‘Manhunt 2.’ ” Isn’t “urged” at least a shade less imperious than “warning”?
...If the watchdogs want to condemn a game as reprehensible, good for them... But lecturing parents about what they should do is, well, offensive... Parents, make your own choice.
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What really bugs me, though, is that he's offended by groups telling parents what to do. Welcome to reality. Any group with any position on something being right or wrong, or good or bad for society is going to try to tell people they shouldn't do it. Sometimes there are very good reasons (smoking, unsafe sex), and sometimes there aren't (gaming), but if he takes issue with groups advising people of what they believe to be the truth, perhaps he should push for newspapers to remove editorial sections.
I'd like to reiterate I'm not on the watchdog groups' side here--but they are what they are, and they do what every watchdog group does, almost by definition. If Mr. Antonucci doesn't like that, I'd posit that his problem is with watchdog groups fundamentally, not with them issuing warnings.
Either way, it is interesting to see someone with logic in that newspaper...
Well, after watching their guy demonstrate how it's done on the show, I really don't see the big deal. Every time he attacked something, the movements of the controller were more like playing a maraca than swinging a hammer or knife.
It seems to me like the real problem is not that our entertainment is getting more graphic, but rather that parents don't give their kids enough credit. Apparently they don't remember what it's like to be a teenager. To the parents of America (and the world over): YOUR KIDS ARE NOT ROBOTS. They are free-thinking, intelligent individuals. They may be naive, they may be ignorant, but they most certainly can tell the difference between standing in front of a tv and shaking a controller, and actually going into the real world to stalk and kill people.
STOP TREATING YOUR CHILDREN AS IF THEY ARE BRAINLESS IDIOTS!
And of course, there's also the matter of Manhunt 2 being obviously aimed at adults and not children. Even the box art makes it painfully obvious that this game is not appropriate for the young'uns.
As for the article itself, "good" is all I can say to that. When the mainstream press are getting sick of the over the top reaction to something you KNOW it has gone too far...
Alarmists such as this "author" of an article in The Repbulican:
http://www.masslive.com/metroeastplus/republican/index.ssf?/base/news-3/...
Or a couple of commenters to this story:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3798090&page=1
commenters who try to blur the line between real mental health issues and a game with a fictional storyline.
It's not just "watchdog groups" that are the problem.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
I totally agree. I just think parents get paranoid.
These watchdog groups are founded on very noble ideals (unfortunately too many are tainted by religious underpinnings though). However, like many organizations, the leadership can become more self-serving than anything else- even though many (most?) of the members are true believers in the cause. These people can become so caught up in their "struggle" (it feels good to fight the good fight) that they become downright intolerant or fanatical- not unlike a cult.
Once the videogame fears die down (after the older generation dies off), many of us here will take up similar struggles in our old age. It comes with the territory of getting old...
Best advice ever.
That was the Mercury News Editor in Chief. Mike is a lowly reporter.
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I am going by only what is quoted here as I can't access the whole article at work, but from what I read here it seems that he is complaining about the nature of the watchdog "advice". These groups do not give parents any more knowledge or powere than they already have. For the most part, they are preaching to the choir so to speak.
These groups would have better served parents by explaining to parents what the ratings mean, and how to set limits, and parental controls. Instead, they went off to condemn a single game.
"These groups would have better served parents by explaining to parents what the ratings mean, and how to set limits, and parental controls."
I would rather see more commercials from the ESRB explaining their own ratings than from these so called "watchdog" groups. Have them work with Nintendo, Sony and the other major gaming groups to put out messages on steps and techniques on how to control their gaming experiences for their kids.
Of course parents could always flip over the box to read the ESRB label or read the instruction book in a Wii, PS3, Xbox etc to see how to do it themselves, but if they need a reminder it should come from the company not these other yahoos.
I understand your position, and I agree with you about censorship, console manufacturers, etc.
But based on the quoted part of the article here, I don't agree with your interpretation. I really don't see how he's saying it's okay for young children to play the game (well, he is saying it's ok if the parents say so, but I guess there's an implicit understanding that no INFORMED parent is going to say "oh, sure, little Billy, have at it!"). He's more calling into question the way in which the watchdogs go about their work.
He's absolutely right, if they put more time and effort into treating parents like more than just mentally handi-capped sheep who need to be told what to do at every turn, and actually informing them about the tools that are available to them to help make those informed decisions, they'd be in a much better standing with everyone. Including us.
By "telling" all parents that they shouldn't buy this game, they are not helping parents at all. They are dictating, rather than informing.
Exactly.
Who has heard of Texas Chainsaw Massacre?
Censors should stop and ask themselves why the film is so well known. It wasn't particuarly good, and yet it's general content is known across the country, and that was because of censors. It was censored, boycotted and banned, people who had never heard of the film were stopped by people wanting to tell them all about how 'disgusting' the content was, therefore making them aware of the film. In the end the censors themselves ensured that the film made a fortune, and is still part is film-culture even today.
Shh! We're spreading Manhunt 2 around that way..