November 2, 2007
The following statement was read by ESRB president Patricia Vance (left) during a conference call which wrapped up moments ago:Earlier this week we learned about a hack into the code of the PSP and PS2 versions of the game that removes special effects filters that were put in place to obscure certain violent depictions. We have investigated the matter and concluded that unauthorized versions of the game have been released on the Internet along with instructions on how to modify the code to remove the special effects.
Once numerous changes to the game's code have been made and other unauthorized software programs have been downloaded to the hardware device which circumvent security controls that prevent unauthorized games from being played on that hardware, a player can view unobscured versions of certain violent acts in the game. Contrary to some reports, however, we do not believe these modifications fully restore the product to the version that originally received an AO rating, nor is this a matter of unlocking content.
Our investigation indicates that the game's publisher disclosed to the ESRB all pertinent content in the authorized Mature-rated version of Manhunt 2 now available in stores, and complied with our guidelines on full disclosure of content.
What parents, and indeed all consumers, need to be aware of is that computer software and hardware devices are susceptible to unauthorized modification. Parents should be cognizant of whether or not their children are engaging in unauthorized modification of their games, consoles or handhelds, as those modifications can change game content in ways that may be inconsistent with the assigned ESRB rating. That being said, the vast majority of consumers have not made the unauthorized modifications to their hardware necessary to view the content at issue.
A follow-up press release contains these quotes, attributed to Vance:
Manhunt 2's rating makes it unmistakable that the game is intended for an older audience. The unauthorized hacking into the code of this game doesn't change that basic fact.
Parents need to be vigilant about monitoring what their children are downloading on the Internet and ensure that they are not making unauthorized and oftentimes illegal modifications to software and hardware that remove the controls the industry has so diligently put in place for their own protection.
There is also an ESRB-authored Q&A attached to the press release:
Q. How is this situation different from the “Hot Coffee” incident?
A. The Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas “Hot Coffee” situation involved a scene that was a) fully rendered in an unmodified form on the disc (the Hot Coffee mod did not alter the content that was there, it merely unlocked it), b) not previously disclosed to the ESRB during the rating process, and c) easily accessible to all owners of the PC version of the game. Conversely, in the case of Manhunt 2, a) content that was programmed to be part of the game (i.e., visual blurring effects of certain violent depictions) is being modified, b) the content was previously disclosed to the ESRB, and c) unauthorized versions of software and/or hardware are required to play the modified content.
Q. How is this situation different from the one with “The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion?”
A. After the release of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, the ESRB discovered extensive amounts of fully rendered and previously undisclosed blood and gore in the game that warranted a Mature rating. In addition, there was a fully rendered anatomically detailed art file of a topless female character present on the disc that had not been previously disclosed to the ESRB during the rating process. The blood and gore was accessible to all owners of the PC and Xbox 360 versions of the game. The partial nudity was accessible to all owners of the PC version of the game if they downloaded a modification available on the Internet that replaced one version of character artwork for another, both of which existed in a fully rendered form on the disc. Conversely, with Manhunt 2, a) the content in question was previously disclosed to the ESRB, b) the content is being modified by removing the obscuring blur effect that was programmed as part of the game, and c) unauthorized versions of software and/or hardware are required to play the modified content.
Q. Why does this instance not fall under the ESRB’s disclosure rule clarification requiring that locked-out content contained in the code on a game disc be considered in the assignment of a rating?
A. Our rule clarification following Hot Coffee required that pertinent content that is programmed to be locked out but which exists in an unmodified, fully rendered form on game discs must either be removed or disclosed to ESRB during the rating process. In the case of Manhunt 2, the scenes in question were playable (not locked-out), programmed to include the blur effect, and fully disclosed to the ESRB.



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I noticed that too. As much as many of us would like to deny it, we are just as easily moved to support anything that supports us, no matter how contridictory it is to our current opinions.
E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
OK Game Devs
Random Tower
Let JBT search for his lost city of Truth and Proof. Would be an interesting jouney, all uphills. I wish him well on this search.. well as long as said search takes him far away from polite society.
Again, we need someone COMPETENT and ELOQUENT to be put on ABC news, or some other prime time program, and explain all the (illegal) crap that would be required to access the AO content.
Also, Yee, Thompson, the PTC, and everyone else claiming how the illegal mod of the illegal copy of the game, giving access to AO content in an otherwise M game, has ANY impact on the game becoming accessible to children, should all be charged with slander, being a public nuisance, and/or whatever the appropriate "inciting ____" charge would be (not a lawyer, can't for the life of me think of the proper phrase).
Sorry Jack, on this issue you lose. Next topic.
Well now, I have my answer.
So Jack, YOU are the liar. Not Rockstar. I won my bet. Pay up, sucker.
I'm glad the ESRB is emphasizing that they knew about the material, and knew how it was disabled, and how that was enough to satisfy them, since you'd have to be a pretty knowledgeable teen to hack the game to disable this stuff.
Jack will mostly be unhappy with the out come. He will some how raise hell.
Oh...that makes me laugh...so hard. Looks like he's got nothing!
Er, got nothing *still*.
@Jabrwock
"So Jack, YOU are the liar. Not Rockstar. I won my bet. Pay up, sucker."
Pssh, you know he's going to say that the ESRB is funded by the video game industry and that everything Patricia Vance said is a lie/coverup. He'll never admit defeat.
Jack Thompson is officially on suicide watch….
Nah, he'll just turn this around and claim victory, as it now proves that the ESRB is in cahoots with Take Two and Rockstar, who are also in cahoots with the stores, and clearly also the parents of said kids who end up with the games.
See, it's all just one big conspiracy.
The critics, of course, will completely ignore all of that.
Thank you. Can someone get this out to the national media please?
Anyway, this was a big "DUH" though they missed the cheat device codes for PS2... Not like it matters since just like they said, this wasn't the same as the Hot Coffee fiasco. This was the Punisher game level issue that of course groups and a certain "lawyer" pissed and moaned blew up over.
Of course this won't stop the call that there's a conspiracy afoot.
@ all those doubting the ESRB
See nothing to worry about.
E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
OK Game Devs
Random Tower
# jack thompson, attorney Says:
November 1st, 2007 at 1:28 pm
Ok, let’s get over the hatred of me. This is a huge news item, whether you agree with me or not. The ESRB made it REALLY clear that if a developer left code in a game that could be unlocked, then that would be a huge violation of ESRB rules.
If the ESRB allowed any code to be left in which could be unlocked, then the ESRB is a goner. That is not an exaggeration. Dennis, you know how serious this is.
I wonder why.
As I guessed, full disclosure from Rockstar and that lil DMCA thing protecting them...
Who in God's name cares? He's lost. *Again*. You don't need to hear the ramblings of a sore loser. Just stand back and he'll rub the loss into his own face.
"NEEEEEEEEEEYYYYAAAAUUUUUUUGH, CONSPIRACY!"
BTW- the game is crap.
# jack thompson, attorney Says:
November 1st, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Dear Moron Jabrwock:
Since you think I’m dense, try this out, Ace:
I said if they didn’t tell the ESRB then that’s bad. Why should we believe T2 on any of this, as to whom they told, etc. The ESRB has yet to talk.
As I earlier noted, if the ESRB did know about the leaving in of this stuff, then that’s even worse for the industry, because they’re the clowns that are supposed to make sure this can’t happen!
Don’t you get it? The watchdog may be complicit in this! The bottom line is that these games are going to have to be recalled. Just watch."
Now, counting down to when Jack's spin on it is posted. I'd put up money that he says he'll be going after the ESRB for lying... but I'm not a betting man.
That would be like betting with someone that the sky is blue.
But how sad is it, that Jack can't say he was wrong.
On the flip side, who will he go after now?
I'm still looking for all those revenue generating ads Dennis benefits from.
The ESRB. To him, this means they're in cahoots with Rockstar to corrupt our youths!
Too bad there isn't any proof. *cue the wah-wah-wah sound effect*
Takes one to know one, I guess... (But then again he was wrong on calling Jabrwock as such in addition to the T2/R* thing, so I dunno what to say to that.)
Now...with that out of the way, can we move on to other, more lighthearted discussions? For example, can we now start making jokes about how the Danny character looks like the lead singer of Linkin Park?
This explains, I think, about 95% of the stink about TT, R*, GTA, Manhunt, etc. Most everyone with a voice is not qualified to give it.