Liberals, Conservatives Game Differently, Says New Zogby Poll

Liberals, Conservatives Game Differently, Says New Zogby Poll

November 13, 2007
Conservatives don't play very many video games but favor Madden and Mario when they do.

So says a new Zogby poll which surveyed the political and entertainment preferences of nearly 4,000 adult Americans. For reporting purposes, Zogby termed the conservatives (37%) "red," liberals (39%) "blue," and moderates (24%) "purple."

Regarding the reds, Zogby writes:
People with a “red” entertainment preference think a lot of programming is in bad taste and doesn’t reflect their values... They don’t play a lot of video games, but when they do, Madden NFL and Mario are their favorites.

Of the liberal blues:
People with a “blue” entertainment preference like many of different types of programming, even if it doesn’t reflect their taste or values... They play video games a lot more than other people – Mario and The Sims are favorites...

The difference between conservatives and liberals goes much deeper than politics, involving much deeper patterns of thinking and behavior. It’s almost like the Reds and the Blues are living in parallel universes...

And here's how the middle-of-the-road purples game:
People with “purple” entertainment preferences... Their favorite video games are Mario, Donkey Kong and Madden NFL...

 Moderates tend not to seek out entertainment with a political edge...

GP: Fascinating stuff which covers entertainment preferences far beyond gaming. But we're curious: Mario shows up in all three groups, Madden in two of the three. The only other games mentioned are The Sims and Donkey Kong. So, who's buying all those copies of Halo, Guitar Hero and GTA?

Comments

it makes sense Hannah, the liberals legalized gay marriage :)
this is silly
Does this mean that the Green Party plays Ecco the Dolphin over and over?

Also, I only play Q-Bert. What political affiliation am I now?

Seriously, this is more crap that fails to look beyond our failed two party republic. (Not knocking the article, I'm knocking the government)
Now there should be a poll with Left/Right put against Console vs. PC.
Conservative, Liberal and Moderate tend to be more inclusive than just refering to political parties. Not all Republicans are conservative (though I'm hesitant to say "Not all Democrats are liberal"). I'm not sure that this study actually proves or even reveals anything meaningfull. I'm older (yep, older than 50), consider myself to be a conservative, and agree with the statement that a lot of programming is in bad taste and doesn't reflect my values. However, I am unlikely to pick up and play either Madden or Mario (don't care for Football enough to play it on a video console and I don't own any Nintendo consoles). I don't have a lot of time to play games (at least one's other than the ones I'm working on) and carefully choose which ones I do play based on what I like and the amount of time I have (recent play includes Age of Empires 3: Asian Dynasties, Beautiful Katamari, the Orange Box, & Carcassonne).

If anything, the poll says to me that those who call themselves Liberals in this poll tend to be younger and actually have/make time in their lives to play a lot of games, not necessarily just the goods ones. :)
"But we’re curious: Mario shows up in all three groups, Madden in two of the three. The only other games mentioned are The Sims and Donkey Kong. So, who’s buying all those copies of Halo, Guitar Hero and GTA?"

Exactly. There's something fishy here.
Libertarians? Independents? Other third party voters?
And the answer is?

This poll exluded anyone under 50 I bet.

SO of course it's not gonna be heavy on the action heavy violent games.

I have a feeling that the results of this pool are heavily exclusionary and cannot be trusted.

But thats just me
Yeah, that just doesn't make sense. It was the first thing that popped out at me when I read it. SOMEONE has to be buying M rated games. Especially given the huge popularity of GTA and such.
The picture confuses me. Spongebob and the Liberal Party of Canada logo? Wtf? ;)
I think I'm in the purple category
I always thought of Halo as the conservative's choice of game. You play a soldier fighting in a just war for survival against evil religious zealots who want to wipe you out. Furthermore, you are so good (as in righteousness) that some of the zealots join you and renounce their badness. You eventually kill the madman behind the religion and then eliminate an even worse threat and there are hugs and smiles all around and no one questions the government about the war.

Did I veer off course? In retrospect, it looks like the Bush administration tried to steal the plot of Halo for their wars, but there are no defectors nor a worse enemy (North Korea still doesn't count), so it looks like they grabbed the wrong plot to follow. Or even a soldier to rally around. They forgot that too.
Liberal or Conservative, Mario's everyone's favourite choice.
This is so stupid. They may well have just asked random people what their favorite trigonometric identity is. If you don't ask gamers, you don't get a representative sample.

Adults who aren't "gamers" will, of course, say Mario. Hell, I'm surprised we didn't see Frogger or PC Solitaire on there.
Ahh internet polls... The most reliable source of knowledge known to man.

I took to time to read the rest of the article for a laugh. Apparently conservatives don't read or attend movies very often. I'm not sure what's up with today's Moderates because according to this poll they usually watch daytime and children's programming. Also, liberals can't get enough of PBS and MTV.

People watch PBS and MTV? That's news to me.
I'm a conservative and I absolutely hate goddamn Madden games.

There, I said it.

I play a lot of FPS, games like Portal, TF2, and Half Life 2. I also play COD4, Guitar hero, and every good RPG released in the last few years.
Lets form the Mario Party seems like it would be pretty popular!
"People with a “blue” entertainment preference like many of different types of programming, even if it doesn’t reflect their taste or values… "

That's right, kids. Liberals are SO accepting of mediums they don't approve of.

*cough*Leland Yee, *cough* Rod Blagojevich, *cough* Joe Liberman.

Sorry, my bullshit allergies must be acting up. ;)
"So, who’s buying all those copies of Halo, Guitar Hero and GTA?"

Non-voters. Yeah, I'm exaggerating some, but you have to admit that the target demographic for those games intersects quite nicely with one of the least politically active groups in the country.
This REAKS of rigging the polls, or just pure ignorance. Mario is about as popular as my grandmother's dentures. Sure, everyone's heard of them, but how many people actually enjoy handling them on any regular basis. Also, what the hell Donkey Kong games are people still buying. And finally, The Sims was the best selling game ever, so it's no wonder it would be popular.

In short, this is the worst use of statistics ever, and that says a lot.
This poll doesn't really say anything. Apparently, everyone plays Mario and Madden. Guess I'm odd, because I haven't played Mario in years and haven't touched Madden, ever (I'm sorry, but John Madden is the most annoying and retarded sports commentator in history). So politically, I don’t exist. Who's playing the RPGs, stealth action games, and first person shooters?
@Terminator44

That’s right, kids. Liberals are SO accepting of mediums they don’t approve of.

I wouldn't call Democrats "liberal"... ;) I'd call them more social liberals ("it takes a village")...

But they fear the idea of being associated with socialism, so they dropped the first part.

And I laughed when I saw the Liberal Party of Canada logo. :)
I'm a cultural liberal, and, except for sports and racing (I'm not really into either, except for, somewhat amusingly, Mario and Mario Kart :P), I'll play pretty much anything. From RPG's, to FPS's, from puzzle to platform, and etc.

But what gets me is, what, exactly, games actually "reflect" political views that are in the market? That you could consider popular. I don't see Halo as anti-gay, or Resident Evil being against universal healthcare. Even in games where politics is involved, like some stealth or war game, it's not really focused on a political spectrum of views, more like, some kind of conspiracy or international threat, whatever. Not economic or social issues.
@Hannah: Not only is having the Canadian Liberal logo on Spongebob confusing, but this is also an American poll :)
and the rest of the gaming world
white christan and mormon conservatives play the bible and anchient manuscripts

and black level minded humans play every thing else like violent games, platformers, FPS, puzzle, ect.

some thing is fishy here
This whole thing is ridiculous. There's no true correlation between selection in videogames and political affiliation, just as there's no way you can tell what kind of a person someone is by their pizza toppings, or what kind of a lover someone is by their game-playing consoles. (I've seen news stories on both.)

I'm conservative. I've also played a wide, wide range of games that range from Legend of Zelda to Manhunt 2, and all sorts of titles in between, both mainstream and obscure. And you know something? I wouldn't play a Madden game if someone gave it to me for free. What does that tell you about these studies?
@ Dave

It tells me you are an anarchist or a communist ;)
Can I just conscientiously object?
Dennis, I cannot believe you failed to squeeze a Red Vs. Blue reference into this article. They lobbed that one down the middle of the plate!
"Who’s buying all those copies of Halo, Guitar Hero and GTA?"

Well, it probably doesn't help that they only have categories for conservative, liberal, and moderate. I for one don't like the social controls either side wishes to impose, nor am I fond of compromised, "moderate" controls from both. As such, I can't really define myself as any of the above. Add a category for extreme libertarian, and you can toss me in that column.

Though I don't see the point in Guitar Hero with a real one sitting right beside me, so, who knows..
Please my brain hurts.... is there a point here? Ok, Liberals and Conservatives do things differently, this is a given. But last I checked my brother and I (both conservatives) do things differently. Just in games, He plays his sports (I agree with Austin, Madden hiss) and strategy wars games while I play RPGs and some FPS. Just a matter of taste.

~~Sarcasm~~
Nnnoooo it cannot be political or I would be doomed to follow the path of JBT who is a self professed republican/conservative. Gods, someone shoot me before that happens.
Some of you are kinda taking these poll results a little too seriously....
about as helpful as a study looking at how gays and straights play games....
I'm conservative, and I hate the Madden games and play alot of The Sims, oh noez, I'm turning liberal!! J/k, but honestly, yeah, that poll is failure IMO.

Lol, that picture makes me laugh though, Spongebob's a liberal.
It seems like they believe the only two developers in the world are Nintendo and EA. And they both only made 2 games.
Phantom Says:

November 13th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Dennis, I cannot believe you failed to squeeze a Red Vs. Blue reference into this article. They lobbed that one down the middle of the plate!


^^
what he said :p
This is just another shaped poll that gave them the answers they were already looking for. My circle of friends and acquaintences ae almost all moderate-to-conservative and every one of us plas every kind of game out there, from XBLA silliness to hardcore "murder sims." (What a stupid phrase that is.)

I'm a "conservatarian" if we're making up labels, and I hate Madden with a passion. Give me Gears or GRAW any day of the week over Madden and the like.
Not that this particular poll means anything, but don't trust any poll Zogby publishes. He's an unabashed liberal who skews his polls in the many ways that skilled statisticians can.

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics."
I agree with JimK. They were most likely just given a list of Mario, Madden, Sims, and Donkey Kong and asked which one they prefer. Most polls like this will give you choices and won't let you fill in the blank on games. Still, you would think that they would try to put a FPS in the choices.
[...] Hmmm…methinks that the adult population pretty much all has the same (semi-uninformed and general) taste in games. I’d love to run our own poll, but I’d hate to see a fistfight break out in the comments. And by “hate” I mean take bets and instigate with open trash talk. Zogby/Lear Center Poll [via gamepolitics] [image] [...]
Austin Lewis Says:
November 13th, 2007 at 10:09 am

I’m a conservative and I absolutely hate goddamn Madden games.

There, I said it.

I play a lot of FPS, games like Portal, TF2, and Half Life 2. I also play COD4, Guitar hero, and every good RPG released in the last few years.

_________

I KNEW it! Goddamned Conservatives..
[...] Link: GamePolitcs [...]
The lack of other games being mentioned isn't the problem - it's putting the political spectrum into only two groups. GTA is probably more favoured by libertarians, who get no mention at all.
I wouldn't be entirely shocked to see this end up being true, as liberals tend to value the arts more (just look at funding policy). I'm not saying conservatives aren't gamers, the more libertarian brand of conservatives are likely gaming as much as anyone, but I can't see the social conservatives running out to buy PS3s.
@Verbinator

Regarding "not all democrats are liberal," I've actually spoken to quite a few American's who consider themselves conservative but are members of the Democratic party. They tends to be the ones who value free-market economics over religion and balanced budgets over wars.
Hmmm. Jack Thompson's a conservative... I wonder if he'd like to try a game of Madden? How bout Mario?
@ TheTrueMrJack Says

doubt it he hates all games
I know, you silly man, but it'd still be interesting to see him try it out. ESPECIALLY if he ends up liking it.
"but I can’t see the social conservatives running out to buy PS3s."

Actually, It's the fiscal conservatives I can't see buying one... ;) (j/k)

Actually, as a conservative (both fiscal and social), these are a few of my gaming choices:

Final Fantasy (actually, up to 9 with the exception of 8) and spinoffs like FFT and Kingdom Hearts.
Castlevania series (especially SoTN)
Fable
Civilization series
X-Men Legends (Both were good)
The occasional FPS

Also, while I've touched Madden, It's been limited to less than 10 minutes throughout the franchise's history.

Several comments about the poll itself though:

1. About half of the Conservatives are over 50. How many serious gamers are over 50? I mean, I can name some rare examples. but seriously.

2. There's no indication of what games people were given on a list to say that they played or not.

3. Looking at the raw data, It seems that the moderates were, by and large, uninformed idiots. They don't read, and prefer "Daytime and Children's programming"

So, in short, let me echo the classic statement:

“Lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
Speaking of politicians playing games, did you hear President Bush played Brain Age and it whupped his ass. Ha ha ha ha ha!
So if I play lots of RTS and TBS games that then then me I'm a warmongering totalitarian? I mean I suppose some of your views will be reflected in your entertaiment choices but this just seems to be going a bit too far.
Darn smilies. That parenthetical is supposed to read "actually, up to 9 with the exception of 8".
As a Canadian, I don't know whether to laugh or headdesk regarding that image. Maybe headdesk, since that poll is ridiculously vague and untrustable.
I guess comparing politics to spongebob fits... Liberals are square and stupid and conservatives are round and stupid.
I'm a conservative (kinda...I'm a slightly more old fashoined one that actually tries to follow the constitution..) and I freaking love FPS's, Guitar Hero, GTA and Mario, what does that make me?

I wouldn't touch Madden for anything less than a dollar. The last football game I've played was Blitz 2000
What a stupid study. STUDY CONCLUDES THAT PEOPLE PLAY TOP SELLING GAMES.
@Playstation

Then where's Halo 3?
If you play Bomberman, the terrorists win.
[...] [Via Game Politics] [...]
I'm a conservative as well in many respects. But I'm also a gaming freak. MMOs, shooters, RPGs. If it runs on windows, I'm on it.

This study is bogus. Gaming cannot be politicized, especially amoung those who ACTUALLY PLAY GAMES!!

I'm also 21 years old for a kicker.
I'm a hardcore liberal, fiercely anti-conservative [especially on social and religious issues], and play most of the shit listed. Terrible poll, imo.

Most conservatives [noneconomic] are ancient in age anyhow (clinging to such outdated, backwards, and superstitious beliefs is difficult under contemporary thought). Of course, ole Granny and Gramps do not game as much.
Once again Pandralies with his black and white view of the world. Most real people are a little more complex than liberal and conservative. Pandralies views it as the liberals(all atheists) versus the conservatives(all Christian and therefore all evil). So when a Christian Liberal, as myself comes about he has to ignore my existence to keep his little world from crumbling around him.

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