Report: Singapore Bans Mass Effect Over Lesbian Love Scene

November 14, 2007 -
BioWare's Mass Effect has been banned in Singapore, according to GameAxis Online, a site operated on the island nation.

Apparently, the game's widely-publicized love scene between two women - one of whom is a blue-hued alien - didn't go down well with government censors. From the GameAxis Online report:
If you were expecting a raunchy Lust Caution movie-inspired sex scene, then you're going to come away disappointed. Of course, when a video like the one shown in Kotaku makes its round do you really expect our censorship board to let the game pass through its net? Of course they don't!

So here's the sad news coming from official sources. Mass Effect, the wonderfully crafted RPG from Bioware is now officially BANNED! The irony though, is that the ban probably only serve to intensify the game's demand here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Am0vf6GeXI

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There is no way that JT would go after this for two reasons: One) Mass Effect is not made by Rockstar. And Two) It's not gay porn, and apparently JT likes that kind of stuff (hey, who am I to judge? to each his own, I say).

Hey! Maybe he could put mass effect in one of his court docs!

*reads article*
Because Singapore is such a huge and complex country to maintain, right?

(I'm aware of their other silly laws)

*Sigh* Like it matters. Singapore has so far off the world's radar that I seriously doubt anyone's really gonna care. While this scene will probably offend a select few, it's tame. Nothing is shown. I don't think there'll be problems in the States.

Hey Pandralisk. Look at this, a country where the Christian populace ranks in at only 15% of the total population and yet still a game was banned. Gee, kinda deflates your theory.

I think what they're say is, "Why watch lesbian sex in a game when you could go to our Orchard Tower and get the realy thing."

That's It!!!!!
geez I was expecting something that would give a preacher an anurism geez thats pretty harsh cencorshipfor them to ban thisohwellI hopepeoplein singapore can watchthis online and realize the sheer stupidity of the ban

@ MaskedPixelante

Who cares? Having gay/lez/bi characters can make RPing much more interesting.

I have to say, that's the "Gayest" love scene ever.

I mean seriously, based on the content, the alien may have had a stroke and flopped on her back because of all the hair product the player was using.

It can't be an objectionable sex scene if there is no sex in the scene

@Erik

No one ever said christianity was the exclusive motivation for media bannings- islam and others are just as bad.

Singapore, however, just has a stick up their ass. Its kind of common knowledge that they are heavy-handed on lots of things. I fail to see why anyone would be suprised.

Dang, that was the weakest lesbian love scene I've ever seen.

The worst thing about this is that bioware is one of the few game companies that cares enough to tell a good story. I'm sure there was quite a buildup to the scene (although I do question why they would choose to show such a scene in isolation). Singapore only harms its domestic and international perception with this action.

Okay that did not even look like sex. Oh and another thing Biowares other game Jade Empire let you be gay and nobody banned it.

Comparing Australia to Singapore is like comparing the United States to Nazi Germany in WW2, seriously I know people aren't that stupid......Or am I wrong?

That's nothing compared to Hot Coffee.

"No one ever said christianity was the exclusive motivation for media bannings"


Uh, yeah actually Pandralisk has, repeatedly.

Wait wait wait wait wait!!!

Is it REALLY banned in Singapore???

The only links I can find point back to the GameAxis website, and they haven't even sourced the information.

There's nothing I can find on the MDA (http://www.mda.gov.sg) website about it...

@Erik

But that's because he suffered from rectal-cranial inversion.

@ EZK

Actually, is asexual really the right term? I thought asexual meant that a species reproduces without any sexual contact, and I didn't think that the species in Mass Effect was like that. Even though they only possess a single gender, I thought they still reproduced through some sort of sexual contact within that gender. Oh well, regardless of the correct term, your point pretty much still stands.

But I have to wonder, is that REALLY the scene? I was under the impression that the scene showed some actual nudity. The version at Kotaku won't work for me so I can't compare and see if it's any different.

"[Mass Effect's] single sex scene is brief and undetailed, although there is breast nudity in one version of the scene," read the board's summary. "The sex scene is triggered by the player making a series of choices about becoming more than friends with a colleague. If playing as a male character the scene can take place between him and a human woman or a humanoid female alien. If playing as a female character the scene can take place between her and a male human or a female humanoid alien." (Emphasis added.)

Taken from a GS news article.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6179029.html?tag=result;title;6

I didn't see any breast nudity in that scene. Maybe the nudity occurs in the female/male or male/female scenes.

No, this isn't the romance scene. Thie youtube vid is a separate scene as a result of completing a quest. Search on Youtube for the real deal, since it's been pulled off GameVideos by Microsoft.

Hmm... there are 4 different versions of the "sex scene" in Mass Effect.

Female/male-human
Female/"female"-alien
Male/"female"-alien
Male/female-human

All 4 contain at least one person who looks female, and according to the BBFC, one of them has breast nudity. Before this video, if I had been forced to guess which one, I would have said it would be the "lesbian" scene, given that it has twice the number of breasts to potentially show. But it doesn't appear to be in that video. Is that really the full scene?

Oops, nm, so that isn't the full scene, I see.

Wait a minute. They banned the game because of this! There is no sex in this scene. All you see are two heads, some kissing and a hand in the last scene. This is just completely idiotic. They rather ban a game over two people in a love scene than aliens and humans killing each other. If that is the case, that is really idiotic.

Homophobic censorcrats...gotta hate them.

I am totally surprised by this piece of news.
This really comes from the little island nation where prostitution is legal, but also cover by insurance and receive health care?!

They don't call Singapore a "fine" country for nothing.

I hear more gay action than that on will and grace when i'm listening to it on my dual band TV radio reciever...

lol, Steamy? Love Scene? Its neither. I was prepping for the "awwww yeah" moment where they were all over each other, but it never came.

Banning for this is just silly. I think E (Entertainment TV) should be banned for showing Ellen and Porsche together (sarcasm)

Tastefully done...but then again I didn't expect anything else from bioware.

makes me glad my country (america) does not have government censors, just crazy lawyers and poorly thought out legislation

You neglected to indicate that your posted video is the "tame" cut. There have been racier videos from the game posted on other sites.

Hey, apparently they changed their mind. Found this on Kotaku:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/game-on/singapore-lifts-mass-effect-lesbian-ban...

i think singapore is ritw they should ban this gay game =)

whats the big freaking deal with the ban the video show's nothing more then a pg 13 movie.
 
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