Greenpeace Dings Nintendo, Other Console Makers Over Environmental Concerns

@Scott --

Well, France has a pretty good history of losing wars, so it's really not much of a shock.

I'm certainly not against the causes that Greenpeace is for. I'm all for trying to keep the environment clean, save endangered species, etc.

However, Greenpeace's methods leave a lot to be desired. They're basically a step below ELF in the crazy department at this point. When you're viewed as a fringe group, when you do crazy stuff, you end up weakening not only your cause, but the cause of the more rational groups that are trying to do some good.

Perhaps the Greenpeacers just can't get hold of a wii this consumer-mass.

So I've been reading these headlines and thought, "Wow. Nintendo really isn't a green company? That's odd for the Japanese."

But now that I read more about it, I don't think that refusing to provide information is the same as doing poorly.

People should be more careful about the way they word headlines, because people who just glance by may get the wrong idea.

Greenpeace may be trying to help, but by misrepresenting facts (or by representing the absence of fact as a fact, in this case) they are really just being childish. They should just leave Nintendo off this list.

That's right. We, Greenpeace, will assume that you make your product with toxic waste and baby seal corpses if you don't disclose to us the specifics of your manufacturing materials and details.

What, you don't want to? Well then you get a score of NEGATIVE A BILLION! Keep it up and we'll give you a medal for causing global warming.

Greenpeace... Ugh...Why are you here? Read the studies! The air we breathe in the cleanest we've had in over 12 years! Pollution in NY and cali are down 26.3% since 1999! The Ozone layer is constantly repairing itself daily. The fact is...all this is happening without the help of you let things naturally happen.

If you truely want to be a great organization do something good. Like seeing that the apartments in the US make 64% more pollution than a small community of 2500...SO go out and get rid of those apartment buildings and build those waste of space eco friendly houses wher eyou have to burn 10 lbs to power your blow dryer to get ready for work in the morning.

Anyone else find it funny that a group that supposedly is for the environment uses ships that are some of the most polluting. I mean seriously sails are so much more environmentally friendly than diesel.

Okay.. so, by not getting any information they fail, meaning that any company that they've yet to bother is also failing by that standard. In other words, Greenpeace equates anyone who brushes them off to a pollutin' and plunderin' Captain Planet villain.

Greenpeace has always been a bullshit organization, but lately they're more bullshit then ever. I do like the work they do protecting whales, though, because I like whales. They're like giant, ocean bound dogs - actually whales sort of remind me of a high school buddy, in temperament, not scale. He sort of floated around, consuming stuff and not bothering anybody - but I digress.

Greenpeace is trying to blackmail Nintendo into releasing private information by assuming the worst and publishing it in a report that carries some weight and that's a despicable, misleading practice. A responsible reaction would be to note that Nintendo provided no information, not to score them as the worst possible sort of polluter. It just shows the sort of arrogance and absurd self-righteousness that permeates Greenpeace and so many of these "we're gonna help you, damn it!" organizations.

You know if they were not Eco Terrorists I would be inclined to believe them or give a damn on what they said. This is just the iPod story all over again.

From what I read elsewhere, Greenpeace never actually ASKED Nintendo anything, but only looked over the Environment-Protection-or-whatever FAQ page on Nintendo's website (as they apparently did for everyone else they commented on). Supposedly this little tidbit that goes a long way to put things in perspective was somewhere in the fine print of Greenpeace's announcement.

I'd check it myself, but I don't have the time right now.

Austin Lewis Says:

November 28th, 2007 at 9:56 am
Honestly, I wouldn’t provide Greenpeace any information either.

They’re a fucking non-government organization of retards, so who cares what they have to say?

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Yeah, those bastards don't like us doing our jobs. World Peace.. That's just bollocks. Stupid Fuckers..

"They must be EVIL like those guys from Captain Planet, they didn't respond to our whining. Damn polluting warmongers!"

WTF you talkin' about? Hippies RULE! Neocons are the enemy from my experiences. Just because Greenpeace criticizes Nintendo doesn't give you all a good enough reason to hate on them. Fox News; look for unbiased facts about them if you watch it. Look up actual stuff about Bush's elections and campaigns. I dare you to, oy.

With Greenpeace's logic, Super Smash Bros. Brawl scores a 0/10 with game reviewers because it hasn't been released to the public yet.

Well, to be honest, they did make it perfectly clear that they couldn't grade things because there was no information, they didn't imply anything from it other than a lack of information. There's an awful lot of assumptions being jumped to as to what Greenpeace is actually saying in that document.

It's bad enough when they made a scare campaign over nuclear power (http://www.greenpeace.org/norway/photosvideos/photos/action-at-the-nucle...). Now they have to make people feel like assholes for buying video game consoles. With Greenpeace you can't help but wonder: what will their next target be?

@GoodRobotUs

Out of 20+ posts, I haven't seen anyone here directly bash environmentalism. Yes, we all know that there are extremists in every group, and these people should be denounced. Not only are they indignant towards anyone who disagrees with them, but also damaging to their own cause. Greenpeace has likely done more damage to the environment than Nintendo ever could, as it has scared reasonable people away from environmentalism with its fear-mongering and misinformation (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/01/AR200606...).

*Not an environmentalist by any strech of the imagination, but I agree with GoodRobotUs in that the cause and Greenpeace don't have to be synomous.*

There's a difference between

0 and No Grade.

0 means you observed their activity and there is no redeeming value.
No Grade means you observed nothing.

Sure Nintendo could be dumping toxic waste into city resevoirs. Or they could be summoning Captain Planet every day. They didn't tell you though.

Greenpeace, stop lying with statistics. Next time, say "Nintendo didn't give us enough information, so we can't grade them" instead of "Nintendo didn't give us enough information, so THEY'RE EVIL!!!!!!"

Yah, fuck the environment and the motherfucking ecosystem and the wales and polar bears. Who needs 'em anyway? We can all live in underground bunkers on the moon and play video games all day long. Mass extinction is a small price to pay for a lifetime of mind-fogging entertainment. Keep burning that oil, people! If anyone tries to tell you that you have a responsibility to anything other than mindless self-indulgence, you should definitely kick them in the nuts right away then run over them with your truck. Effing pansies.

Only if the 360 RROD was GROD...thi product is earth friendly....but we have to make three times as many of them because of the high fail rates....

Green peace to bad the French did not get all of them. Maybe we should tell them living is bad for the environment. Then tell peta how many animals get killed in combines each year.

GLOBAL WARMING DOESN'T EXIST!!!

@JJmug

PETA is the dumbest idea ever.

I really like Greenpeace. They're annoying as hell, but so are most politicians, and they fight for a cause I really care about. But right here I think they f**cked up. You are polluting if you don't want to tell somebody how you work?

@Dog_Welder

"The best thing France ever did was sinking their boat."

And what can we say about a country who arguably lost a war with Greenpeace?

I'll agree, Greenpeace is nisrepresenting this, and yeah, they are in many cases a bunch of loud, narrowmided idealistic zealots. And things aren't as bad as they say...

I don't much like them, truth be told, but they do keep folks aware of some important issues. I just wish they were more ethical at times with thier methodology.