Jack Thompson Trial Update ...and Tivo Alert

Jack Thompson Trial Update ...and Tivo Alert

November 30, 2007
We've heard very little news from this week's Florida Bar disciplinary trial of anti-game activist Jack Thompson.

Here's what we know:

As expected, the case, which began on Monday, continued all week long. We spoke to a staffer in the court of Judge Dava Tunis this morning who told us the Thompson trial was reconvening at 11AM today, Miami time.

Earlier this week Thompson filed a motion with the U.S. District Court to vacate the Bar case. Judge Adalberto Jordan rejected Thompson's motion yesterday, thus allowing the case to continue.

Thompson himself has sent very little GP's way this week. Although he e-mailed this cryptic message on Wednesday morning, we received no follow-up, despite a couple of requests:
Florida Bar Disbarment Trial of Anti-Violent Video Game Activist Heats Up... Things took quite a turn against the video game industry at Miami attorney Jack Thompson’s lawyer “disciplinary” trial yesterday [Tuesday]. Wonderful details will be disclosed publicly shortly.

I'm still awaiting those "wonderful details." Although my gut tells me that if Thompson had something to brag about, he wouldn't keep it to himself, it's probably best not to indulge in too much speculation at this point.

Regarding the Tivo Alert, we've learned that Thompson will appear on Spike TV's GameHead program tonight at 1AM Eastern Time. Show host Geoff Keighley was at VGXPO a few weeks back and apparently caught up to Thompson there.

Keighley will also have an interview with Spencer Halpin about his Moral Kombat movie.

Comments

The thing about Thompson is that he makes the 'The Video Game Industry is finished Mwahahahaha!!!' comments, and then it turns out that this 'massive' victory is, at best, inconsequential, at worst, non-existent, so I tend to ignore them.
@Zerodash

At a guess Jack thinks that his disciplinary trial is him against the Florida Bar/Game industry. So anything marginally in his favor in the course of the trial is something that's "a turn against the video game industry". That or he managed to get some of their complaints thrown out from the stack that's against him.

Either way, I highly doubt it's anything major. IIRC he's used similar phrasing in the past for when he's fired off a letter to some official. Hell, it could be him firing off that motion the article mentions.
@pix

As I said, Jack probably thinks this is all their doing. Everything against him is one big conspiracy in his mind.
@ Scott

Yes. About six times. He further inflated his hypocrisy by circumventing the IP ban several times and posting under poorly-thought-out aliases.
I'll be sure to watch gamehead tonight. This will be interesting. I am getting pretty tired of the physco going nuts on everyone.
Check this link out: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/trueneutral/Blog/JTCtrlAltDel.jpg
Whenever I hear those statements of JT's, I recall a bit of flash fiction I read. I can't find the exact passage, so pardon me for paraphrasing:
"As I scaled the walls to his keep, I heard him say, 'all exactly as I planned.'
When I slew his guards, he cackled, 'exactly according to my plan.'
When I infiltrated his inner sanctum: 'just as I had planned.'
I disarmed him in combat and knocked him to the ground. ' all according to my plan.'
His last words as I ran him through were, 'just as I planned...'
Later I spoke as I stood over his grave: 'You never really got the hang of planning, did you?'"
@Erik

I doubt those eggs are even laid yet
@Saint13

Bravo, good sir - you win two cookies, with teh whipped cream.
@ GRU

"Don't confuse the issue with the facts." Yep, sounds like a JT mtethod of thinking. Goes along with the, "If you can't fight any evidence, create it." Methodology of Mark Furman.
Can any of us brits rely on our transatlantic chums to youtube their american television programme with mister thompson on it?

I do like a good bit of comedy.
@Saint13

Hi-larity. You get an intertubes.

As for my take, I think the reason he's been so tight-lipped about this since Wednesday is because shit's not going his way. He's usually shouting from the mountaintops when he thinks he's winning, and doing so incessantly, and seriously, do you think a gag order would really stop him completely from talking about it?

Anyways, I'm off, gonna go watch a half of the Raptors and munch on my pizza.
Jack's going to SPIKE? On a GAME-RELATED SHOW? At 1 in the morning?!

Man, he really IS senile if he thinks anyone is going to give a rats ass about this...
@fake-JT
YOU WILL NEVER GET AWAY WITH THIS!, JACK THOMPSON!!!!!!!!!!
J/k :P
@Chopperlink

According to Tim Buckley, he was molested by Grand Theft Pong as a child.
@GoodRobotUs
Then he should just stop what he is doing!!
lmao at youtube vid. Laughed my ass off.

Fuck Jack is such a piece of shit. Better keep an eye out for John Boy suicide bombing an EB Games after this week.
I bet some worthless piece of evidence got suppressed. What a blowhard. We'll all find out soon enough, anyway. I hope that, even if he doesn't get disbarred, some news outlets will think twice before taking his word due to all of the contant ethical stuff looming over his head.
Well hopefully Spike will bring this up when he's on the air tonight, I'll watch and see if they do.
I fail to see how JT's disbarrment trial has anything to do with destroying the videogame industry.
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA.

THIS IS GREAT.

Priceless.
Considering there hasn't been any details, there may be a gag order on the case.

Considering Jack took time to mail you during the case, he may be in violation of said gag order, putting yet another count among his dozens, if not hundreds, to be considered for his disbarment.
@ Zero

It only makes sense within the narrow confines of his own delusions.
Except.. This one doesn't make me laugh..
-Florida Bar Disbarment Trial of Anti-Violent Video Game Activist Heats Up… Things took quite a turn against the video game industry at Miami attorney Jack Thompson’s lawyer “disciplinary” trial yesterday [Tuesday]. Wonderful details will be disclosed publicly shortly.-

This means that Jack got the judge to admit there are violent video games out there. Jack has just turned the gaming word upside down with that revolation.
I really hope that the judge doesn't wait until the 21st to post the judgment. I really hope that it happens today or at the latest Monday.

Here's to hoping.

PS: John Bruce sure is desperate for attention if he is going on Spike TV.
Any upset would be good for jack. However and as stated (and widely known) if something did go jacks way he would be crowing about it.

No crowing=jack still in deep hot water.

Even if he found one issue he could turn to his favor (or at least not against him) there are many Real issues to deal with. It would be truely surprising if he could find some type of child like glee in getting off from under just one of them.
I've been waiting for the:

Dennypoo Sweetykins, can't you see that this is all part of my master plan? Soon Norm Kent will be in jail and video games will be illegal as a result of my disbarment case being overturned!
Well, I wouldn't trust anything John Bruce had to say regarding those "details". Mr. "Legalized Gay Marriage in Europe caused the birth rate to drop" couldn't tell the WHOLE Truth, and sometimes not even PARTIAL Truths, if the Truth were stapled to his vocal cords.

He probably introduced that biased psych test from Dr. Wunderman, the one filled with so much conflict of interest that you'd think John Bruce evaluated himself, and it was accepted.

Wouldn't be a surprise really. Wasn't it Dr. Wunderman who did John Bruce's evaluation the last time?

Really, John Bruce's so-called surprises aren't as big a surprise as he might think. I already view the overall legal system as dishonorable, unethical, corrupt, inconsistant, illogical, and ignorant. After all, HE'S a part of that legal system. The two go together like weiner and bun. And HE'S the weiner.

:P

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
@EZK

Indeed, the first time I visited the site there was some kind of header banner about 'Motion Capture Porn' or the like O_o
@ Icehawk

In other words it would be like if he was found not guilty for cutting the tag off a matress, but found guilty for several counts of 1st degree murder.

I agree with others, though, he's been dead silent, which means that he either has nothing to boast about, or the Judge has order him not to under threat of some form of drastic punishment.

Here's hoping you can't keep your yap shut, JT.
"Things took quite a turn against the video game industry at Miami attorney Jack Thompson’s lawyer “disciplinary” trial yesterday [Tuesday]. Wonderful details will be disclosed publicly shortly."

Bless. Somehow I doubt the judge said, "Case dismissed, and as a result of your exemplary attitude you've been appointed the position of chief justice of the supreme court. And we've all chipped in and got you a unicorn."

Isn't the absolute best result for Jack basically saying that he's OK to continue practicing law? This case can't result in anything happening to the game industry.
Maybe Jack thinks that him being allowed to practice law is a blow to the industry? Which is a fine example of how deluded he is, he isn't a problem, merely a pain, there's difference.
Jack still doesn't quite seem to understand that it's not the video game industry that's prosecuting him here. It's the Florida Bar based on complaints from numerous lawyers (some of whom represented the video game companies) and judges. Oooo...Jack might have really zinged the video game industry in one of his filings.

How many times did he come here and boast about how some random filing of his just brought him the greatest victory ever in his suit against the Florida Bar? And what happened again in that trial?

Denied
Denied
Denied
Denied
Denied with prejudice
Denied
Denied
Denied
Etc.
Forgot to add...I'm guessing his request to vacate the trial was the big "turn" he was talking about. That is, before Jordan rejected it.

HA!
I hope that Jack Thompson would not be able to mess with video games like he has before with all of his nonsense.
I didnt think the video game industry had anything to do with this trial

So how has it turned against them?
The way I read it, it's not an appearance by Jack on Spike TV; it's a recording of an interview from those "few weeks back" being shown now.

If he really IS on TV, live, at 1 in the morning... eh. Who cares. It'll just be the usual garbage. I'll just wait for it to be posted here or on YouTube.
JT's announcement reads like that "biggest video game news in the past five years" that turned out to be a story about a guy who was only peripherally involved in the industray and who decided to make kids' games.

It also sounds like he thinks his trial will play out like an episode of Perry Mason or perhaps Phoenix Wright (if he acknowledged such a thing existed). He seems to believe not only will he walk away unscathed from all this, but that somehow video games will be made illegal.
@Gray17

and as you have pointed out he thinks its a conspiracy that means you are in on the conspiracy as you are trying to dismiss the conspiracy as not been a conspiracy which automatically means you are in the conspiracy

my head hurts...
Hmm... "Earlier this week Thompson filed a motion with the U.S. District Court to vacate the Bar case. Judge Adalberto Jordan rejected Thompson’s motion yesterday, thus allowing the case to continue."

followed by... "Thompson himself has sent very little GP’s way this week. Although he e-mailed this cryptic message on Wednesday morning, we received no follow-up, despite a couple of requests:"

I cannot help but think the two statements are linked. Jack was probably crowing at the fact he filed for the motion to vacate. The reason he hasn't followed up is because his motion was rejected. He is ever the optimist, you have to give him that much.
Well he is the JACK!! He can do not wrong, even his shit comes out sealed against odor. Sorry I am having trouble typing this without laughter messing with my already bad spelling.

You know maybe he acutally believes his own line that God with send an angel or empower Him to overcome all the evil and deliver him from under harm.

Its kind of sad in a way. He thinks himself equal to the gaming industry, superior to the Florida Bar, and the weight of all the people that stand against him (if only in his own mind) just gives credance to his "calling". The truth is a bit more bleak if he could only remove his self imposed blindess to and see it. The only people that much care about his fate are gamers, parental watch groups (as a talking head) and a few game companies... Yes there are alot of gamers but only a tiny percentage are rabid about his demise. At best he might make an ofter overlooked footnote in some rarely read history book.

History tends to roll over self-important, under-educated, bigoted twits like him without a hickup.

@GryphonOsiris

Good analogy bro :)
"Things took quite a turn against the video game industry at Miami attorney Jack Thompson’s lawyer “disciplinary” trial yesterday [Tuesday]. "

How is this related to an ethics trial focusing on an attorney's behavior? How could Jack's trial end up hurting the videogame industry?

OH!!! I get it!!!

If he is disbarred, Manhunt 2 and the like will lose their largest producer of free marketing.

Makes sense now... sorry to bother...
Has JT actually been banned from posting again? I think i might have missed when that hapened.
Scott,
Happened just after John Bruce added GP and the ECA to his suit along with the Florida Bar. The judge dismissed all the cases and John Bruce was back to being a social pariah... oh... wait... he's never STOPPED being that.

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
It happened a few JT threads back, Scott. Someone had posted something that JT took as a death threat while Dennis was AFK, and tried to use it as a reason to sue for a million bucks. Jack got the banhammer for that, but has come back three or more times to continue to harass Dennis, including calling the Secret Service on him when someone else posted something that if taken the wrong way could have been a death threat on Hillary Clinton.

In other words, more of the same idiocy as always.
Wasn't the agreement between JT and Take Two supposed to be the ONE THING that would enable him to destroy TT/R* forever?
You mean the agreement that he's violated about 100 times in the past two months alone?
Somehow I don't believe the official court documents have fingerquotes around the word “disciplinary”.
@ Zerodash

You fail that to understand that in 'Jack Thompson World, the third planet from the sun,' everyone is in cahoots to bring him down like some sort of giant monster than couldn't make it into a Godzilla film.

The Video Game Industry, Consumer Groups, all retailers, all the courts and all the law firms out there, the president, they're all 'in on it' to him.

In his mind, the Florida Bar practically IS the video game industry.
hahhahahahhahaha


dumbass
I love you Jack!!!! I NEED YOU! I NEED YOU TO EAT MAH BABIES!! I LOVEZ YOU! YOU PULL OUT LIES OUT OF YOUR ASS LIKE I EAT BABIES!!! WE ARE THE SAME!!1 KEI HITLER!!
JT- "DOOOOOM! Doom for all gamers!"

Gamer 1- "What? Doom 4 is out? Is that what he said?"

JT- "No, you brainless morons! *I* am your DOOM!"

Gamer 2- "Schweet! Jack Thompson is bringing us Doom 4! Maybe he's not such a bad guy after all!"

JT- "Idiots! I am the bringer of pain to your pathetic lives!"

Gamer 1- "We get lives in Doom 4? More than one?"

Gamer 2- "Does this mean the saves are going to be all messed up? They're not doing checkpoint saves, are they?"

JT- "Imbeciles! NOTHING can save you!"

Gamer 2- "NO SAVES?"

Gamer 1- "Doom 4 with no saves, are they MAD???"

JT- "Listen to what I am saying, you cretins! I am an attorney, and you are not! I will bring down the gaming industry and your cries, too, will be heard far and wide!"

Gamer 1- "Oh. Bummer. He's not bringing us Doom 4."

Gamer 2- "Didn't you hear him? It's not Doom 4, he's bringing us FarCry 2! Woot!"

JT- "NO! All gamers are drooling apes who commit violence and atrocities upon the innocent! I will defeat all of you this day and emerge victorious!"

Gamer 2- "Does he mean Day of Defeat?"

Gamer 1- "I'm so confused now. This guy makes no sense."
I wonder if this guy will ever figure out that the problem is not the game industry trying to 'get' him, it's the fact he acted like a complete unprofessional ass in front of 2 separate judges? He just seems to want his conspiracy theory to be true so badly that he's totally blind to his own actions in this.
I see once more Jack is counting his chickens before they hatch. The "turning against the video game industry" strikes as much fear into people as Jack's attempts to sue Dennis, Penny-Arcade, his "bullet-proof" laws which were ruled horribly unconstitutional.

Besides things can't turn against the video game industry as they are not on trial. Therefore Jack still hasn't come to grips that he is the one in trouble.
Are there any links to the court docs outlining the case against JT? Its my understanding this is about more than just Blank Rome & Bully- but a slew of things going back 20 years.
Niiice, Saint...
@Saint13

Excellent. You win Brownie.
I honestly don't care what the news on JT is at this point. IMHO his disbarment is only a matter of time. This news can't be that important.
To be realistic, Worst Case Scenario: Jack is not disbarred and continues slandering games and bigoting Gamers like us. It's not like he's going to get political office or anything(Though that would be the WORST case).

The Best Case Scenario some overly vindictive gamers want to have happen to JT would be: JT's disbarred and bankrupts himself trying to appeal the decision and get his license back. He ends up disowned from his Son, divorced from his wife, excommunicated from his church, scrapping by by borrowing money from his extended family and cleaning toilets at McDonalds.

But, that's completely unrealistic and exaggarated beyond all reason and besides, I don't like JT, but I don't wish bad things to happen to him. He's already doing that himself.

A more realistic Best Case Scenario: JT's disbarred, his appeals are rejected, the game industry has a new poster child for how not to protest Video Games and JT ends as something mostly harmless, like a Highschool Debate teacher or a public speaker.
Oh, it's getting so much better for us gamers!
@Saint13,

Please, stop, my upper lip is trying to heal from the burn I got and I can't stop laughing.
@ Saint13

ROFL

You have captured the essense of JBT. Quick, bottle it, seal it and launch it into the sun.
Saint. That was so awesome. I'm crying from laughter now. Well done.
If (when) Jacky gets disbarred, we might want to un-ban him from the site, or at least give him some thread where he can post. I would love to watch his lunatic ravings and laugh until my ribs shatter.
Yeah, that was better than Monty Python.
Problem is, he keeps threatening the ECA, the site, and Dennis with more litigation... keeping Jack banned helps keep the contact between JT and Dennis to a minimum, and puts more of a case against JT for cyberstalking each time he violates the ban.
@ya'll peeps

Just glad to put a smile on some faces. =)

(And I got brownies, cookies and whipped cream out of it! Yay!)
Something to keep in mind is that Jack really has a problem with confusing him writing a letter or filing a motion with something concretely bad happening for his opponents. Perhaps, even given his horrendous record of this, he is simply assuming that what he's doing is going to work completely in his favor and judging the consequences for his opponents on that basis.

The "things taking a turn against the industry" very well could have been referring to him filing a motion for Judge Jordan to recuse himself, and just assumed Judge Jordan would and that it'd be horrible for the industry.

In his mind, the only possible reason a judge could have found against him in the first place is because that judge was biased. And without biased judges, no one could *possibly* have a case against him, as what he's doing is automatically right and in line with God's will (remember that he already has planned that if he loses his Bar license here, he's going to sue the Bar for violating his Civil Rights by persecuting him for Christian Activism, and is fully sure he'd win that case.)
@ Erik

I would say he's counting his 'loaves' before they are pinched, however that's just nasty, so I won't say it. ;-)

You know, it must really burn his biscuits not to be able to post here anymore. And my answer to that is, "Good". Perhaps it may teach him some restraint before saying every impulsive, half-baked falacy that he thinks of.
@Boffo,

Thompson's accusations of bias always strike me as not too dissimilar to someone in criminal court complaining that the evidence will bias the jury....
Ack, Method of thinking, and can't find any evidence.

Need to slow down when I type.
Saint13:

Congratulations. You win the fudging INTERTUBES for making such extreme lulz! :D

Well, I wouldn’t trust anything John Bruce had to say regarding those “details”. Mr. “Legalized Gay Marriage in Europe caused the birth rate to drop” couldn’t tell the WHOLE Truth, and sometimes not even PARTIAL Truths, if the Truth were stapled to his vocal cords.


why staple 'em, we have a hard enough time getting the truth out from him without it being fastened to his innards...
I really wonder what those "wonderful details" were. Perhaps tere was truly something to tell but it was probably along the lines of the "Judgje Jordan called those pictures obscene!" kind of thing.
@NeoElasticMan

He actually said that?

If he did, he's stupider than I thought.....
@ chris

it will most likely be on Gametrailers.com since gamehead is a partnership they have with spike or something. but all gamehead episodes are usually up on their site within 24 hours of the shows airing.
Judging by the dates I'd say this "wonderful news" was Judge Jordan accepting JT's motion to vacate. Only Jack is deluded enough to think the motion would actually pass. I'd love to see the motion itself. No doubt it's full of false (and irrelevant) conspiracies and Jack comparing himself to history's greatest figures.
One thing's for sure either way: Jack Thompson will be actively and aggressively litigating these issues of professional licensure with either or all of the Florida Bar, the Florida Supreme Court, the State of Florida, Judges Tunis, Jordan, Friedman, and Moore, the Alabama Bar, and Dennis McCauley for the next 5, maybe 10, years.
@ JDKJ

You missed out Norm Kent, Strauss Zelnick and Rockstar.
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Jack Thompson not informing us of how everything is going according to his ingenious plan?

I guess that means he is in trouble. *glee*
Wait, "wonderful" for him or for the gaming community?
So people actually think that Bruce is able to relieze when things are not going his way?
@Vladmire Triskavanski

Not really.
As long as he isn't permanently disbarred, he's going to find some obscure point in the trial, call it victory, file new suits against the ECA and the ESRB and the court, and be a total pain.

If he gets disbarred, it'll be the exact same, except he'll yell and scream about it, claim a conspiracy, file an appeal, and keep saying that gamers are about to get their comeuppance.

God forbid he gets off with a slap on the wrist or nothing at all.
Look out, kiddies. I filed 27 motions today for Judge Jordan to recuse himself. He ruled against me, which proves his bias. And once I get every other judge in the state to recuse themselves, the Florida Bar will be doomed. Hooah. After I eat the Florida Bar for breakfast, I will have Take-Two and Rockstar for lunch, and Dennis McCauley for dinner. And George Bush will be so impressed with me that he'll make me a Supreme Court justice. And I can finally make videogames unconstitutional once and for all.

(The preceding was not actually made by Jack Thompson (attorney) but were a parody of said person.)
@not-JT:

Are you sure? Cause it sure fooled me, LOL.

But I'm also eager to see how this turns out.
You know, in the past few years Jack's gone from "annoying and misinformed" to "lying and bombastic" to"crazy as fried bat-guano". I remember when he was a credible nemesis, now he's just like a mild itch on the industry's backside.
@Finite:
Well, at first he tried to use calm tactics and try to prove his theories on videogames, but it didn't (obviously) turn out well. So now he thinks by screaming his "christiain" beliefs and acting like a two year old in court will get him to where he wants to be.

Here are some good questions for anyone who knows: Why does Jack Thompson waste his time trying to ban all violent (Or just all) videogames? Has a violent videogame caused him some kind of misery? Has it destroyed something in his life? Has any videogame affected him in a negative way?
@ ChopperLink

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20050808.jpg

That'll explain it.
@ GRyphonosiris
I remember that!! It came from this:
http://img.engadget.com/common/images/1412964642907265.JPG?0.16008106279...
@Finite,

It was pretty much the same story as what happened with the Rap-Music incidents involving him. We don't really see all of Jack Thompsons activities here, but this certainly seems to be his modus operandi. I've been here for years, and the rhetoric waxes and wanes (remember how to kept calling us E-Tards during the whole embarassing Gay Porn incident). I think, in part, the more pressure Jack feels under, the more the mask slips.
@ chopperlink

JT doesn't actually have anything against games; he just sees them as an easy target. All he wants to do is get some form of media banned. This of course goes against first ammendment rights and would ensure Jack a place in the history books as "the man who fought the constitution and won". It was them same in the 80's; back then rap music was "the new kid" and seen as an easy target for the moral brigade. JT tried to capitalise on this and all he managed to do was ban one album in one state. After a few more years of failing he must of realised rap was here to stay and his eyes on a new target.

It will be the same with computer games; he'll fight for a few more years but eventually see that people aren't so easily fooled by the "veeedio games are teh evilzzz" propoganda he and other watchdog groups spout. He'll then try to ban the "new new kid". My money is he starts to target the Internet. The general masses are still relativily uneducated about it and JT will try and take advantage of this. He'll probably go on and on about how your kids are in danger and everyone is a pedophile. He's already tried to target gamepolitics and nationalgaynews.

In summary: Jack wants to go down as the greatest lawyer of all time but ultimately he'll be remebered as the biggest scmuck of all time (if he's remembered at all).
@Matriculated and others
Yeah, that sounds about right. It sounds like that watchdog group call the Parents Television Council whose goal is to make television "SUPER KIDDIE FRIENDLY!!". They want to be remembered as the watchdog group that got rid of violence, cussing, and sex on television (If it happens first, which it won't). I wish these people could just stop, but it won't happen.
I think it's also, in part, about being able to feel 'morally superior'. I don't think this has ever really been about the science for Thompson, that was a handy tool, but not his motivation, it's about forcing his own moralistic outlook onto those around him, that would 'prove' to him that he was 'superior' to them.

As mentioned before, it's certainly about getting attention, but I think there's a great deal of insecurity in there, I always get an aura of 'If only everyone did exactly what I told them without question, the world would be a happier place.'. I wonder how many atrocities have been committed in the name of making the world a better place?
The problem is that people like Jack Thompson don't know that America is about believing in what you want to believe in and what you like to do. Jack Thompson and other crazy "moral conservatives" want to make America into their own America. They think that America is about shaping the country and people to their idea fit.
Lately, when I hear about Jack Thompson now, all I really think about is how a guy could've turned a small concern with gaming into something LEGIBLE. Thoughtfully discuss the issue with down to earth gamers, the public, corporations, the media.....

Instead.... we ended up with a raving jackass. A guy that stereotypes gamers, brings false "facts" and misinformation to the media. A guy that when cornered with the truth, cries or hides behind legalese & religion.

Jack, I doubt you'll ever read this, but you are without a doubt a waste of taxpayer money, time, and reason. The only person you can really blame for what's happening, is YOU.
It just started, and I must say, Hal has better hair than Spencer.

Ah, the APA report. Geoff brought up studies that found no link, and Jack says something to the effect of, "Well, not finding evidence of something doesn't mean that something isn't true/didn't happen," which, and I'm sure I'm breaking some rule here, GP, but it needs to be said, is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard come out of the mouth of someone who claims to have enough knowledge of the legal system to be a lawyer. Top 5, easily.
Once again, Jack proves he can be civil if the publics watching. I wouldn't mind him so much if he acted like he did on the show all the time.
Also, did anyone else notice that Jack said he bought Manhunt 2?
@Zero Beat:

What? :P
He was acting kinder than usual on Gamehead. I seriously feel sorry for his son now. He said on Gamehead that he went to his son's school and rant on about game violence. His son is now the most hated kid in school. Jack didn't give any decent proof about his side of the debate. He claims that he "plays GTA and other games" during his free time, but now he doesn't have much time to. The guy on the other side of the debate says he likes Jack more now that he has met him. But Jack might just be pretending to be nice.
@DarkTetsuya

Yeah, that was pretty confusingly worded. Watching a close game of basketball at the same time does that to me sometimes.

Anyway, Jack brought up the APA report and said that there was an increase in agression in teens, etc. Geoff, the reporter for Spike TV, asked him what he thought about all the other studies that found no evidence of a link between agression and violent media, and Jack basically said that just because there's no evidence of a link doesn't mean that a link exists.
Er, that should read...

Anyway, Jack brought up the APA report and said that there was an increase in agression in teens, etc. Geoff, the reporter for Spike TV, asked him what he thought about all the other studies that found no evidence of a link between agression and violent media, and Jack basically said that just because there’s no evidence of a link doesn’t mean that there isn't a link.

Ugh, time for bed.
That could be true, but so far there are very, VERY few minors getting aggressive over violent videogames. But it is not the videogames themselves. It is usually because of parents not teaching their children how to deal with anger or parents that don't pay attention at their kids at all.
@Zero Beat:

Actually I was referencing this :P
I wonder if Jack's whole defense to the bar is that game's are obviously evil and should be banned instead of actually replying to the charges against him. That would be the most hilarious thing ever, as it could only result in a psychological exam mandated for him, from a reputable psychiatrist of the Bar's choosing.

Now, I'm not a lawyer, and I don't want to help with Jack's defense, but wouldn't his best method be to site precedence for his ethics violations from other courts/trials? The Bible would not be included in this, since it is not the direct basis for US law (despite what Jack wishes). Perhaps he can even give reasons why he did the things he did to violate ethics, court rulings, and the like, again without saying "God made me do it"?

Still, I find it hard to believe that there are any precedents for the kinds of stunts he has pulled lately. I don't doubt that the Bar will come down hard on him. The question will be whether it is hard enough.

PS - First post. Hi, all.
@neoelasticman

"Well, I wouldn’t trust anything John Bruce had to say regarding those “details”. Mr. “Legalized Gay Marriage in Europe caused the birth rate to drop” couldn’t tell the WHOLE Truth, and sometimes not even PARTIAL Truths, if the Truth were stapled to his vocal cords."


well to be perfectly fair, his claim is a half truth, but when flushed out is actually an argument in favor of gay marriage

you see it's a fact that many homosexual people enter into heterosexual marriages because it's what they feel they are supposed to do, when these marriages inevitably fail they often turn to bringing children into the world in an attempt to save the marriage

in a society which does not stigmatize homosexual relationships this becomes a less common occurrence, do to a more open conception of homosexual relationships, and as such the forthcoming child stemming from a broken marriage that could never work never gets born
I was VERY surprised that Jack Thompson ordered a copy of Manhunt 2. o_0
ok, the GameHead video is now up on GT, and I gotta say... the picture they used for the headline update bar... makes it look like Jack Thompson and that other guy are gonna start slugging it out, Mortal Kombat style.
@ Ryno
The Psyche-Exam card is something they're not going to play, since Jack is a good enough liar to pass off as "sane" when he's not in court, or not talking about religion or games.
Either way, there's really nothing that can get him off the hook for acting unethical, since he's already made it known to the BAR itself that he believes they're out to get him because his litigation is motivated by his Christian faith. The law is the law, no excuses, and it's one thing to break a law once out of reflex- it's another thing to do it after you've been told far too many times NOT to. He's already knee-deep in legal crap because he's raised the ire of far too many people (some of them not necessarily in the same state, even), he's well known for his circus acts and frivolous lawsuits, and they know he's yet to actually mount a credible censorship offense- more importantly, anybody working in the legal system can easily recognize that he's the kind of person who is trying to redefine/misinterpret the First Amendment for his own purposes, and we've already got a nice backlog of religious groups trying to do the same thing.

@ Deathnote
Yes and no on Jack being civil. He CAN appear civil, but once somebody strips down his argument and sees what it really is, he gets very defensive- once someone makes a comment on him having no clue on what he's talking about, and implying he's a scaremonger? Then you get that news report with him calling the dude a jackass on TV in front of those people.
@ZeroBeat

So the reports he mentions are 100% factual and accurate and anything else 'doesn't mean there isn't a link'....

Says it all really... Picking and Choosing sources is a famous technique for propaganda.
Tony,
The quote was originally from my post. Neoelasticman was quoting something I said. Didn't want him to catch any flak and me not take responsibility for having said it myself. :)

I doubt that, statistical proabilities taken into consideration, the "drop" would actually be of a significant, or even noticeable, value.

Indeed, John Bruce didn't point out another important Fact: with legalized gay marriage comes certain other legalizations which may or may not have been in place before. Notably, the legalization of gay couples fostering/adopting children. While I don't have such statistics handy, and not sure if they exist, I'll put a significant wager that legalized gay marriage would INCREASE the number of children being placed into good homes versus the number of conceptions DECREASING due to... how shall we say it... "forced" marriages that produced children as you suggest.

No, it's not an exact comparison, but the number of couples "having" children (through conception OR placement) is fairly decent of a match.

So, I'd call that one a 1 quarter Truth at BEST.

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
@ Zero Beat

Yeah, he sounded kind of like a conspiracy theorist there. What he said was a variation on that line, "The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence." I shouldn't have been so surprised considering that Jack, like any paranoid consipracy theorist, seems to see conspiracies where there are none and thinks that we, Dennis, Blank Rome, The Florida Bar, Norm Kent and the games industry are all in cahoots. :P

That interview also confirmed what we suspected about his son getting a hard time in school. Jack mentioned that when he visted his son's school, all the students razzed and booed him because his dad was "that guy."

He also mentioned that his son played violent games like Call of Duty, yet didn't have a problem with those. And that what games he himself plays are Rockstar's games, which suggesting by his tone sounded like he secretly enjoyed them. Just goes to show what a damn hypocrite hie is. :P
Well, that's what his son gets. If you're the kid of a lunatic like Jack Thompson, the gamers will whip your ass on a daily basis in order to send a message.
Er... A child shouldn't be punished for the wrongs of the parent.

i feel sorry for the kid really :/ .
Jeez, haven't you guys ever tortured someone for information/complience? The kids are a great soft spot. All the electrified sponges in the world would add up to a good pop in the mouth to an only child. Heck it's rule #1 in the world domination handbook. "If you have enemies, hit em where it hurts." High school is hard for everyone. Who hasn't been embarassed of their parents once through out high school. Jack Thompson is the alchoholic step dad that comes to pick you up then rear ends a bus in the parking lot and throws up on your principal's shoes.
Watching that video, Thompson almost sounds BORED with preaching his precious APA study for the umpteen millionth time.

He's really just saying the same damn things over and over and over again, so much so that even HE'S getting bored of it. He wasn't even looking at the guy talking to him, he was just saying lines that he's memorized word-for-word to try and create some sort of shock factor for what he's doing, while staring at the ground like a scared little turtle.
Regardless of my opinion of Jack, and I really don't have a good opinion of Jack, I don't hold any vehemence towards him or his family, I disagree strongly, and I find him offensive, but if I started hating him back, I'd have dropped to his level.
That was @lovely, btw
Agreed, GoodRobot.
@GoodRobot

i guess it depends on how you define hate.
i find Thompson so morally bankrupt and bereft of human qualities that it would not make me sad if he stopped existing. he contributes nothing but bile and thus is a waste of genetic material.

do i want him killed? no.
do i care if he dies? not in the slightest.

i can do all this with indifference and lack of compassion, but it doesn't involve active hatred of the man. annoyance, sure. hate, nah.
Hey Jack, and others check this out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiT2cbyRtAI
@ Monkeypeaches

That was awesome! :D
Did anyone actually see the Gamehead video? I was on the road from 8-midnight, PCT, so I missed it; the show's site doesn't seem to have any footage of it, either.
It seems like whenever Jack Thompson gets proven wrong on television he keeps on sticking up for himself and makes very pathetic excuses that make no sense.
@halofantasy1

About the only TV appearance he hasn't spoke of since is his G4 appearance.
it's on gametrailers.com, just go to the gamehead section.
I ment @Vansau
Either someones been playing or they've misdirected the link to that thing about motion capture porn..... O_o
Aha... it's after the thing on motion-capture porn.

...
...where is the "wonderful news"?
^ Like always, it doesn't exist.
Does this mean if Jack loses, he's going to have to go out and get a real job?

Oh, I can see it now...

Jack: Welcome to Wal-Mart, how can I help you?
Attack Gypsy: Yes, I want that copy of GTA: 4.
J: That is an evil game, you shouldn't buy it.
A: I want to speak with your manager.
M: Jack, you're fired.

MUWHAAAAAAAA!!!!
^ Ongoing:
Jack: you can't fire me, I was sent here by God!!!!
Manager: Really?! God told me to fire you this morning!!
LOL :P
@Attack Gypsy

Copies of GTA mysteriously vanishing woudl get him fired before that >.>
I am assuming the trial part is over and now the decision waits on that December 21st "deadline".

It seems curious "sweetie" isn't spamming out victory pronouncements. I bet he's pissed because the current big topic in the games community isn't about him...unless he wants to claim Jeff Gerstman is a fellow whistleblower on the industry. :)
@Zerodash:

Kinda hard to when he's banned... (But that hasn't stopped him from trying, right?)
Yeah, Zero, i kinda mentioned already that he was banned multiple times. However, seeing as this week he actually has to WORK (something he hasn't done in quite some time) he probably has little time to post here.

Not to mention that he probably heard about that hostage situation at a Hillary campaign HQ in New Hampshire on friday, and he'd probably baselessly link it to that 'threat' posted on this site several weeks ago that he got up in arms about.

Did you guys hear about that? Hillary wasn't even in the state at the time, btw, it was just a place where the campaign HQ was.
I'm aware of the ban (which he is skilled at evading), but we haven't seen any of his famous press release email spams. Its not like he ever cared about gag orders anyway. I agree about the Hillary incident- it seemed a given he would try to tie games in with that...and still nothing.
yeah but if he violates the gag order dennis can just forward what he says to the courts directly =]
@cullarn:

Well here's hoping. ;)
Yay, I just learned that NZ has its very on JT (no shit: his name is John Terris). He even has a few similar tricks, like linking the VT shootings with video games.

Heres there site:
http://www.viewers.org.nz/index.html

Usual stuff (our precious kiddies brains are being eaten by evil tv etc.), the bit about the VT shootings was in a newspaper not the site.
Huh. Jack was banned from GP? First time I've heard of this. Ah, well I guess we shall all miss calling him a douche and crying over his lack of common logic.
That.
Video.
PWNS!!
@That_1_Guy

Dude... he's been banned a few times.

Really, about 60+ times if you include the times back during the Live Journal days.

Recently, it's been *about* 4 - they started after Jack tried to sue Dennis. Jack came through on a proxy, was banned again, and repeated a few times.

GamePolitics ShoutBox

Posted 11/08/09 at 09:02am
DarkSaber: http://tinyurl.com/yez7jyo
Posted 11/08/09 at 09:01am
DarkSaber: Oh for gods sake, the Gearbox pres is gobbing off about Valve again
Posted 11/08/09 at 08:53am
JDKJ: But cheer up, Austin. If the unemployment rate continues to double-digit as predicted for the next few years, your half-dozen stands a better than likely chance of returning to power.
Posted 11/08/09 at 08:46am
JDKJ: @DS: If he had added the line about "or hiring illegals aliens under the table to work as nannies," it would have been a completely perfect descripition. And, yes, it's about the same difference between a six and a half-dozen.
Posted 11/08/09 at 08:31am
DarkSaber: My god, that description makes them sound almost Republican. Still what did you expect, Obama is only marginally more left than republicans.
Posted 11/08/09 at 01:07am
Austin_Lewis: Health insurance, brought to you by the same kind of bureacrats who couldn't, in timely fashion, investigate the comments of any of the men Obama appointed Czars. Or their past. Or their history of not paying taxes.
Posted 11/08/09 at 01:06am
Austin_Lewis: Yes, and what a piece of crap it was. Arresting and fining people just because they don't make a personal choice to buy healh insurance, creating over a hundred new bureacracies, and worse.
Posted 11/08/09 at 12:24am
ZippyDSMlee: JDKJ:the only trouble is a bunch of witless hacks wrote it....its going to be a train wreck....
Posted 11/07/09 at 11:33pm
JDKJ: BREAKING: In a photo-finish at the wire, House passes health care reform bill. Relatedly, in a fit of pique, Austin Lewis kicks innocent dog.
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:27pm
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:26pm
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:23pm
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:18pm
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
Posted 11/07/09 at 03:34pm
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:58am
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:56am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:51am
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:48am
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:11am
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:07am
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
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