December 4, 2007
2007
Parental Involvement: C
Ratings Education: B-
Retailers’ Policies: C-
National Retailers: D
Game Specialty Stores: B
Game Rental Shops: F
Video Game Industry: C
ESRB Ratings: C+
2006:
Parental Involvement: INCOMPLETE
Ratings Education: B
Retailers’ Policies: B
Retailers’ Enforcement:
Big Box stores: A
Game Specialty Stores: F
2005:
Ratings Education: C+
Retailers’ Policies: B
Retailers’ Enforcement: D-
Ratings Accuracy: F
Arcade Survey: B-
Industry’s 10-year cumulative grade: D+
Comments
While we're at it, what in the world is this supposed to mean--seriously? I mean, it's cute and all, the report card format, and related to schoolchildren, I get that, but the thing is--grading scales vary. A C in my high school meant something entirely different from a C in my college (pretty crappy v. pretty decent).
One might note that the ESRB's ratings are defined, consistent, and--given basic knowledge of the English language--self-explanatory. If the ESRB, whose job is to rate games as they are presented to them, gets a C+, then what's NIMF's grade?
*Unless your Thompson, then we're all rocketeering to get you disbarred. :]
Fellow reader of Penny-Arcade. Gotta love it.
NIMF involvement beyond being an absolute douchebag of an group: F
I'll definitely agree with the F to rental stores; I've never seen anyone get IDed at a Blockbuster when they try to rent GTA. Even before I was in high school I could rent Mortal Kombat 2 without the guy behind the counter batting an eyelid, and apparently that hasn't changed.
Overall, though, it looks like the video game industry and I have something in common: average test scores.
The problem is the stigma of AO games built up by the media and supported by retailers and console manufacturers.
i dont get it either, they make it out like learning to interpret ESRB's rating system correctly like fucking rocket science in terms of difficulty. if they feel its that hard to understand and the majority of people are not informed about it, perhaps they should start offering courses on it at schools and colleges and make learning it a requirement for U.S citizenship or something.
So how can you tell if there's any improvement?
@ Jabrwock:
Exactly. If you show a parent the 2007 report card, they'll be somewhat confused. Show them the other two and they'll be horribly confused.
@ Baine:
Why won't the politicians use the government data? Oh right, it doesn't say "ESRB is bad"
"Get your head out of you know where and go do some real work, theres thousands of people a day dying due to your obscene government, maybe if you spend your moments dealing with that instead of effing video games America might be a bit less hated globally"
Loophole? The game didn't get through on it's first submission. It was then changed so as to appease the ESRB and receive a lower rating. That doesn't seem like a loophole that they slipped through to me...
Poor old NIMF, so vocal, but so out of touch. This would be like me going and shouting at people that quantum physics is bad for children. I don't understand the subject, but damned if I'm going to try and get as many people to listen to my opinion as I can!
I think the parental category should get an "F", but that would never happen because the parents are their constituents. No political figure would put the blame on the parents. It's suicide. Better to blame the retailers. If parents actually go out and make informed decisions about what their kids play, all of this mess would go away.
Between that and the Dallas Morning news running the article about the Gerstmann firing, it kind of makes me think Dallas is okay for games.
take the 'Game Specialty Stores' for example:
(D-)* to F to B over 3 years
I can honestly put my hand on my heart and say i've seen no difference at all on enforcement in the real world in the past 5+ years. I still get carded occasionally, and i'm 27!
*(this one is all retailers though)
Per koichan, the "marks" flip too wildly to be consistent.
Let's not stoop to a Jack Thompson low.
I'm going to go on the opposite side of the fence this time and back the NIMF. There's no reason to insult them, nor is there a reason to oppose their little "report card".
We've all got opinions and the NIMF does, too.
So they can keep their grades, I'll keep my peace of mind, and we'll all be super-duper happy. Besides, it's not like...
Anyone...
Well...
Unless I've been living under a rock for the past few years...
I've never even heard of the NIMF up until now...
So...
It's not like anyone will really listen to these peeps.
Unless they really are (hope HTML works?) big and powerful...
I should get out more, I guess. O.o
Please do not mention that name around here. We're just starting to get used to not having him around.
As for NIMF, it's one thing to have an opinion, it's another thing to tote that opinion around as if it were the ultimate authority (as seen by that report card). This is the same group that demanded the GTA series be turned into a family friendly game.
"It’s not like anyone will really listen to these peeps.
Unless they really are (hope HTML works?) big and powerful…"
They were smart enough to cut off connections to our former resident douchebag, so to some people they have credibility.
Scaremongering: B- (would have been A+ but due to lack of originality in the rant on MH, NIMF was graded down)
Consitency: F
Education: D
and finally:
Relevance/Media exposure: F
NIMF has trouble paying attention to whats happening and is more often chatting with other disruptives. NIMF needs to try harder...etc.
The whole things looks pretty arbitrary to me. Not only do the headers change, but the actually grades bounce around for no apparent reason. Are the grades based purely on knee jerks or something?
And nevermind the fact that the f***ing game is called Manhunt 2... Like Grand Theft Auto, they shouldn't have to house the games in DVD cases wrapped in human skin dripping with blood, ala the Necronomicon, to get the 'NOT FOR KIDS' message across.
@HandofCrom:
Your post = A+
I agree with that. I think a C+ is a little generous. They only concern themselves with parents. They do not care about consumers without children. If their rating system was less biased then perhaps they could get a better grade.
The ESRB is FOR parents. The ratings system doesn't apply to anyone over 18 (AO limit), so the target group for the ESRB is parents buying their children games. In that regard, I see no problems. They have the rating on almost every game out there; it's clear, consistent, and accurately rated (it's not the ESRB's job to slog through a game's source code looking for potential hacks).
The only problem is that some games that probably should get AO get pushed into M, as AO is a death-knell for a game.
B rating here for me on the ESRB.
I realize this. This is the very root of the problem I have with the ESRB. Not only do I not agree with their rating system but the fact that it is only for parents is really the key element of my frustration.
heres my take on their scoring
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Parental Involvement: D
Face it parents are the main problem they are the ones giving kids the money/games and not parenting them on how to use it.
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Ratings Education: B
Other than pouring more add dollars and sublimail messaging theres not much more one can do.
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Retailers’ Policies: B
Most have reasonable policies,instead of firing them they should be hit with a 100$ fine per game pay it keep working problem solved and done that would grab more attention than simply being fired.
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National Retailers: C
This can be confusing but they merely added big box stores and everyone else that sells games but then again the Dollar store is not even going to blink at you when you buy anything,they will be happy you bought it, I also don't see drug stores stopping people from buying games movies...
Also pawnshops don't really card either...
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Game Specialty Stores: B
Improving and gettign with the times..or being pushed out of bushiness...either way....
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Game Rental Shops: D-
Blockbuster can card for movies but as the quality of the rental industry drops the whole thing gets sloppy.
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Video Game Industry: C+
They are acaulty trying to improve ratings enforcement much like the MAA did 10-20 years ago before they stopped giving a damn.
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ESRB Ratings: C-
Face it with Games being treated as a unmature non adult medium it will never grow above a C, let games have their 18+ then polices can be shaped around that,hell adding a 15M level would even be more helpful!
I also think the Video Game Industry grade should have been higher (A-B range). A lot happened this year in terms of releases, and it seems like economically and socially the gaming world has grown.
ESRB should have been an A too. They have a reliable system in place for rating games and I think that's where their responsibilities should remain.