Schwarzenegger Distances Himself from THQ's Conan Game

December 11, 2007

Although California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) helped build his acting career by starring in the 1982 film Conan the Barbarian (left), he is carefully distancing himself from THQ's recent Conan video game release.

As reported by the Contra Costa Times:

The new Conan is the sword-wielding, decapitating star of a new ultra-violent video game, "Conan," which is drawing criticism from [State Sen. Leland Yee] and warnings from [the National Institute on Media and the Family] to scratch the game off Christmas lists for children and teenagers.

 

Schwarzenegger has "no association with this game," said Aaron McLear, the governor's spokesman, who did not elaborate on how the governor feels about the character becoming a video game. Schwarzenegger is fighting for a law to restrict the sale of violent video games, and "Conan" would be among those regulated.


Schwarzenegger, who has himself appeared as a a character in several violent games, signed California's video game law into effect in 2005. 

Sen. Yee authored that legislation while a member of the California State Assembly. When a federal judge overturned the law on constitutional grounds earlier this year, Schwarzenegger vowed to appeal. The matter is currently under consideration by the U.S. Circuit Court.

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need to fix a quick typo on the lat paragraph, missed an S in arnies name

End of Days (1999) .... Jericho Cane
Eraser (1996) .... U.S. Marshal John 'The Eraser' Kruger
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)
Total Recall (1990)
Red Heat (1988)
The Running Man (1987)
Predator (1987)
Raw Deal (1986)
Commando (1985)
Red Sonja (1985)
The Terminator (1984)
Conan the Destroyer (1984)
Conan the Barbarian (1982)

Arnie a hypocrite? Really? Would never of thought that...
Can you sense my sarcasm on this one?

Seriously, with that list of violent movie credits to his name, he surely has no leg to stand on with the American press, does he? And of course, this forgets one movie that above all others was a violent assault on the senses that sent me into a rage of violence and anger as a direct result of a movie... Jingle All The Way.

I understand why he is distancing himself from the game. Just because you starred in a movie that was based on the same IP does not mean that you endorse it. He has to say it publicly though as people are stupid and will associate him with the game otherwise.

get your ass to Mahs!

I can imagine why.

@Paul Kerton
Don't forget "Twins". That was an act of grotesque violence if ever I saw one, I've STILL got the mental scars from that...

Whatever, we all know that Arnold is in control of the Conan NPC, whenever he is gonna spawn. They are just saying that he isn't connected with the game so that when people start camping him, they can't laugh at him in public about the major ownage he suffered at the hands of 10 year olds who's parents bought them the game without knowing what it was about, or even dared to look at the rating.

@Rdeegvainl
I think you have the wrong Conan game. I believe the Arnold is trying to unassociate himself with the solo action/adventure game that came out for the consoles earlier this year. Although when Conan, the mmo comes out im sure he'll do it again, just to make sure. Either way, it is kinda hypocritical, but if he doesnt ever, EVER make another movie with any violence he has an argument of changing his ways away from violent entertainment.

@ Paul Kerton

Just about every "family-friendly" movie he ever did had a lot of violence, even "Kindergarten Cop", making Arnold an even bigger hypocrite.

Not only that, but the Terminator movies spawned several games, and there were also games based on the movies True Lies(a movie you forgot to post on your list) and Total Recall.

"to scratch the game off Christmas lists for children and teenagers."

I'd like to see how many children had this on their christmas lists in the first place. A more helpful message would be to make sure parents check that they aren't buying just the first video game that they see on the shelf because they believe that all video games are for kids.

This is the type of shit that disgusts me. Arnold has no problems playing in one of the most violent and masculine roles of the 1980's, but this sick industry's focus on the childhood gaming demographic has caused much of the media to retain the old stereotype of games=kids.

When will they understand that about 50% of all video games are not for children, and that most gamers could give a damn less about the welfare of children when it comes to games? Seriously. I'm getting sick and fing tired of all of these appeals to the children.

I hope Conan redefines physical violence and sexual content in video games. I hope it is so fing gory, sexual, and tasteful that it completely destroys the disgusting stereotype that is policing and destroying this industry.

@ Bloodharp

It's rumored that he may make a cameo appearance in the new Terminator movie starring Christian Bale.

Wasn't Conan like... a series of books before it was a movie? So... I don't think yon Governator can say much of anything. I mean... all he did was play the guy in the movie, but Conan has been around much longer, since the 30s at least.

Pandralisk, you sound like those comic book geeks who will shoo away anyone who isn't into comics or are new to comics.

Your post pretty much says "KIDS?! GET OUT OF MY GAMES AND STAY OUT!!" How many of us started gaming since we were kids? (protip, nearly all of us). Yes, gaming isn't solely for kids anymore, but that does NOT mean kids should stay off gaming and not even think of looking at them ever again. Gaming's a general activity, which means everyone can get into it, yes even kids.

i think we're getting to the point where the public are thinking "Games = for kids"
and the gamers who go around and discuss things are thinking "Games = for teens to adults".

imo :
Games can be for anyone.
no game should be censored absolutely.
Rating systems and retail controls need to be re-thought.

Arnie had better return all the royalties he was paid for his likeness to be used in violent films and games, otherwise he is a fucking hypocrite.

Well I didn't put True Lies on because, well, I couldn't remember it being that violent. In fact, the only things I remember from that film are the Harrier jump jet scene and Tom Arnold.

The man is a hypocrite, there is no denying it. Almost as hypocritical as being a Republican in the Kennedy family... oh wait...

All the "violent video games" Arnie was in were all movies. Although Jingle All the Way could be violent too. Everybody fighting over the super-rare Turboman figures ala. the Tickle Me Elmo craze of 96.

I'm worried about Arnie. He might have some power here. He'll probably try to crush his enemies, see them driven before him, and then he'll probably try to hear the lamentations of the women.

Sad, really.

Yeah, I think I'll give up playing Violent Video games. They are bad..

Not to mention, I just bought House of a Thousand Corpses, Devil's Rejects, SAW 1-3, and Hostel on DVD!!! Need time to watch those, of course!


lol

It sucks to say it but legal enforcement of the ratings (OFLC/ESRB or whatever version is relevant to the country you're in) is the only viable way to even try to stop kids getting stuff they shouldn't. I mean there's parents being involved in their children's lives as well but seriously, is that ever going to happen??

Voluntary ratings are an essential and enlightened step but give a shopkeeper the choice between selling GTA4 to a 12 year old or retaining an ethical code of conduct and they'll choose the cash every time. This goes at least double for a struggling independant competing against a Walmart/BigW/Kmart/EvilBigStoreInc megacorp. The same is probably true of the people working at the megacorps who probably depend on commission to supplement their minimum wage job.

Basically I've always thought that without some kind of threat, asking people to be nice will never work. You might as well leave a pile of money in the street with a sign saying "Please don't take any of this". Within 90 seconds the money will be gone and the sign will probably have been nicked too.

Things should never be banned, restricted is fine but banning is just not cool. Censorship is always a moment of outrage thing anyway. I mean in parts of Australia, the film "Silent Night, Deadly Night" was banned for violence and the frightning portrayal of a killer santa. You watch it now and it's just piss funny.

Oh yes; because only people below the age rating are going to be playing this. :/

Setting aside the basic hypocrisy of it, I'm not sure what I think. On one hand - I'm annoyed at the double standard, but what would I expect him to say? I suppose it could be worse if he somehow tried to have the conan game exempted. That would be REALLY hypocritical. Plus, Conan was 20 years ago. It's somewhat possible he regrets making those films. I wouldn't know why, the Conans' were classics, all I'm saying is I'm less likely to hold Conan against him, then say, End of Days. That one just sucked.

I just think that he doesn't want the confusion from idiots who see that he was in a movie called Conan (and is therefore responsible for absolutely everything that happpened in it even though I don't think he even talked in it did he?) and then see a game called Conan with a similar musclebound figure and assume there's a connection.

You have to protect yourself from stupidity since, after hydrogen, it's the most common element in the universe.

Or maybe there IS an ulterior motive, has anyone finished the game yet? Maybe it tracks Conan though his life and when he realises he's too old to be beating people up for a living, he takes up regional politics.

Hopefully, video game companies will never solicit Schwarzenegger again for things like voice acting, now that he's changed and not for the better.

From what I've heard, the game is a flop. I find it pretty reasonable to distance oneself from that. Interestingly enough, the reactions to authors like Robert Howard and H. P. Lovecraft mirror reactions to games today. Some moron in the present said games are "disgusting crap," some idiot back in the day said Lovecraft's works were "sick, and anyone who read them was sick."

Oh and once again, I played the demo. It was terrible, with far more gore than was needed really.. I'm 25 and I still thought it was overkill.

Its pretty obvious that some developers realise the flaws in their gameplay and think "pack it with gore"

So violence in his movies is OK but violence in video games isn't?

just shut the hell up schwarzenegger

@Geno

and if you ask Mitt Romney, torturing people is ok when we do it in real life, but not in video games.

I'd distance myself from the game too: it's *terrible*. It's like a cut-rate knockoff of God of War, and doesn't even manage to look as good as that last-gen title.

Heh, I seen Hercules in New York, now there's a movie I'd want to forget about if I were Arnie....

I guess the term "ultra-violent", as ridiculous as it sounds, as made it's way into the media when referring to certain videogames today. I don't remember the game Smash T.V. being ultra-violent.

come on...look at what he's really doing: separating himself from a bad game. the violence part? meh, i'm sure that's not biggie, but it's not like he's saying, "yeah, that halo 3 game, take my name off of it" (assuming he was the main guy in a halo movie back in the '80s, but you know what i mean)

Tis is a sad thing, seeing a fair to good actor turned into a political talking head.

Tell me does he still make royalities off his (violent) movies? If so then to be true to his stance against violent games he should refuse or cut off those funds and divert them to help his state (they need it). If he is okay with accepting that money then he is a hypocrite and is worthy of, and subject to disgust and disdain.

Even if i was half my age right now (i'm 20 now) i probably wouldn't have even known that this game existed, let alone would it be at the top of my christmas list. Hell, even realistically, i didn't know it existed, and i have a few other, more important games on my list... like, oh, i dunno... Mario Galaxy and Guitar Hero 3...

@ HandofCrom

I applaud you for your logic, and for bringing up Lovecraft :D

Some moron in the present said games are “disgusting crap,” some idiot back in the day said Lovecraft’s works were “sick, and anyone who read them was sick.”

Yeah, Elvis' dancing is sinful as well - please take it off TV.

[...] Arnold Schwarzenegger has problems with the video game Conan The Barbarian because of its violence. Arnold played Conan in the violent film version back in 1982.Read More at Game PoliticsYour thoughts?  Published Dec 11 2007, 12:24 PM by lhester Filed under: california, videogames, manhunt2, violence, govenor, conan, esrb, lelandyee, arnoldschwarzenegger [...]

[...] Over at GamePolitics they’re reporting that Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is distancing himself from the Conan game put out by THQ. [...]

But he's not going to distance himself off the violent movies from which the game was based? And he can't see through this tracing paper think hypocrisy?

The game has nothing to do with the movie from the 80s, and is actually a fairly accurate representation of Robert E. Howard's Conan stories. I'm loving it because it is so damned accurate to the original stories.

But of course, there wasn't any violent media in the 40s that this could have been adapted from. Kids just now started experiencing violent media, starting with Pong.

People are idiots.

Who cares?!

Most Conan fans are familiar (at least, if not completely saturated with...) Robert E. Howard's original short stories written between 1932 and 1936 and consider the movies to be horrific bastardizations of the character and the property. To be honest, I'm just as GLAD that the Governator is distancing himself.

"The new Conan is the sword-wielding, decapitating star of a new ultra-violent video game, “Conan,” which is drawing criticism from [State Sen. Leland Yee] and warnings from [the National Institute on Media and the Family] to scratch the game off Christmas lists for children and teenagers."

It should be scratched off all lists, The game sucks.

Ignore the idiot. Arnie doesn't even warrant the attention he gets.

I still find it funny that Arnold Schwarzenegger, a man known to support, and even having worked in the violent movie industry, should just happen to be against the one form of media that drains the most money from Movie Coffers....

It detect a deliberate conflict of interests, Schwarzenegger is playing both sides against the middle, trying to keep his old connections at the movie industry happy whilst towing the party line.

...which is drawing criticism from [State Sen. Leland Yee] and warnings from [the National Institute on Media and the Family] to scratch the game off Christmas lists for children and teenagers.

Always with the "games are for kids" message.

I detect a hint a hypocrisy and a dash a plain stupidity

Sorry, wanted to add, it's sort of like a Porn Star sitting in a mansion, paid for by their porn career, sipping on champagne, paid for by their porn career and running for governor based on publicity from their porn career, and then trying to pass anti-porn laws once they are elected, it's kind of like saying...

'I got rich and famous from working in this genre, so I'm going to make sure that I alone benefit from it.'

Ok, everyones downing Arnold because he basically said he doesnt think kids should play this M rated game. So what. Its the same as saying he doesnt think kids should see terminator. This release wasnt an attack on video games, even violent ones. He was stating the obvious kids shouldnt play M rated games. As a parent and 20 years of avid gaming I agree.

Secondly, this was only released in response to a direct question abour how he feels about a game that is a recreation of a movie he was in. Its not hypocritical to respond to a direct question in an honest manner.

As another has mentioned there should be incentives to retailers to enforce the ESRB rating system (by fine if need be) so kids arent playing inappropriate games. I will also say if parents took some GD responsibility we wouldnt need govt enforced rules.
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