Schwarzenegger Conan Controversy... Now with Video!

Schwarzenegger Conan Controversy... Now with Video!

December 12, 2007
Yesterday GamePolitics reported that California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is distancing himself from THQ's rather bloody, M-rated Conan game.

Schwarzenegger, of course, starred in the popular 1982 film Conan the Barbarian.

Sacramento's ABC-7 has a video report, including interviews with Schwarznegger's press secretary, California State Senator Leland Yee and a gamer who said he can't help but link the Guv to his iconic portrayal of the Conan character

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One gamer. Nice cross section there. *sic*
However, Conan is iconically his character, no matter how badly they destroyed the original story. It is hard to extrapolate him from the character.

Still doesn't make his idea of picking on games and ignoring movies any less unfair.
The pure, unadulterated ignorance of reports like this makes me glad I don't live in the States and don't watch TV.
That was an absolutely hideous 'news' report. There was no information presented whatsoever. There wasn't really a very good cross section of interviews. They could have at least interviewed someone from THQ, but no.

THe report really came across as a "dim ebil gamez' report disguised as something else.
talk about a slow news day.
Sorry to go a bit off topic but is that the news guy in the picnot the rapist guy in the pic in the link?

http://pure-essence.net/stuff/funny/rapistTv.jpg

Sorry but that was the first thoughts I had when I saw the article :D
I was thinking the same thing. He's even got the same expression on his face.
God, I hate it when the news keep describing games as "ultra violent".

Its great to see them not to even describe the Conan movie as violent but the game is ultra in its violence.

@Scottland89

That should be the should be the shortest rapist search ever.
@Scottland89

Yep, that was exactly my first thought as well *laughs*.
What exactly classes as ultra-violent as opposed to just common or garden violent?
It's one of those snappy-phrases the media like to throw around that doesn't mean anything.
@Colonel Finn
Yeah I was thinking the same thing, seriously it's getting to be as bad as my dad calling video games "videoes." Who the hell got everyone in politics and the media to agree to use that dumbass term?
@Colonel Finn

Ultra-violence as a term comes from A Clockwork Orange, meaning random and unjustified violence against someone. Muggers, attacking people for no reason, these would all be "ultraviolence".

So the use of the term, whilst accurate, is being used in sensationalist ways.
Thats actually the Los Angeles ABC affiliate. But getting back to the Governator not wanting to be apart of the Conan game, what about the Terminator games that he's been a part of?
@Paul Kerton

It may be accurate to call the GTA games "ultra-violent" by that definition but, as I understand it, Conan is about killing monsters that are trying to kill you, doesn't that mean the player's violence is then justified and hence just violent not ultra-violent?
The Conan in the new games looks and sounds nothing like the governor, and I was shocked to see this as a story on the news this morning. What a non-issue.

Then again, my local ABC affiliate also dedicates an unusual amount of time to reading high school sports scores out of the local paper, so I guess they do have trouble filling up all the time.

BTW: I beleive this is from Los Angeles' ABC 7. The ABC affiliate in Sacramento is channel 10.
That picture wins the award for "Presenter With Pole Up Arse".
There IS something vaguely 'South-Park' about the whole report for some reason....
@Scottland89

Just what i was thinking.
In a world where dodgeball is considered "violent", they needed a phrase to describe violence where somone might actually get hurt, or at least where a digital representation of a humanoid might be animated into something infering the concept of pain. So they coined the term "ultra violent". But, seeing as Halo can be considered "ultra violent", I think they need some more phrases to truly cover the spectrum of animated violence.

May I suggest:
Mega Violent
Super Mega Violent
Mega Ultra Violent
Super Ultra Violent

And this one is reserved for Fox News use already:
Xtreme Super Mega Ultra Violent to the MAX


My question is, what does Arnie have to do with this game? He was hired to play a part twenty five years ago. I doubt he had anything to do with writing the script, coreagraphing the moves, or anything at all to do with the game. All that linking him to the game will do is increase his stance against the game as he tries to differentiate himself from his character.
WoW. if that wasn't an attack upon videogames I don't knwo what is.
Can anybody say hypocrite? All I got from the video was that Arnold was a part of something violent, but games are bad and he's against violence.

And Yee acting like everybody's parents? Does he even have kids?
Above:

I meant Arnold being in the Conan movie, not the present day game
Ultra Violent why is every game with some violence classified this.
@BamPot

When I played the demo, I did nothing but kill other humans. There were more than the fair share of blood effects, including copious amounts on the floor.
Obviously I haven't played the whole game as the demo was so abysmally poor, but the demo itself was pretty gratuitous.
Wow Yee didn't bash the ESRB
Age of Conan doesn't look in any way ultra-violent to me, you have some blood but at the end of the day it's an MMORPG and it really didn't have much more than some hack-and-slash, same motion over and over again attack animations, even if they threw in a decapitation, it's still an RPG and is lacking in the same visceral animation of an action game.

Which is a shame since a full-on action Conan game would be more enjoyable to me and have some capacity for some ridiculous deaths (God of War-esque).
Oh, this is an actual full-on action Conan game? Sweet. I'd only heard of Age of Conan: Hyborian adventures which is an MMORPG and didn't really appeal to me.

Anyway, Schwarzzenagger's association with the Conan movie is just one more thing in the long line of his starring in ultra-violent R-rated action movies and now being hypocritical in wanting M-rated video games federally controlled while not supporting federal control of R-rated movies.
As I've said about Schwarzenegger before, it's easy to get moralistic about something when you're already a millionaire in a governors position. I wonder how much if his fortune is made up from sales to under-age buyers?
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Apparently, to them, all video games have violent acts that serve no purpose and are un-justifiable, so to speak. So they're all ultra-violent. Including Guitar Hero III and skate.
@Paul Kerton
Ah right, I haven't the game so I just presumed that monsters where the main victim of ultra-violence.

I was wondering would RPGs like Final Fantasy count as ultra-violent because you walk about, get into a random battle and if you attack first then the violence was kinda unprovoked...
@TheBampot

RPGs are too difficult for newscasters to explain in snappy soundbites that non-gaming alarmists will understand.
This all reminds me of the tv special about gaming and violence shown in the UK around 8 or 9 years ago, where they claimed that Quake 3 allowed players to map real human faces to the ingame characters and 'Stalk' them.
This was genius, as stalking was the big fear in the UK at that time, as everyone from Madonna, to yer Auntie Mary seemed to have a stalker. By mis-contextualising the use of the word they managed to try and make it sound like a completely different type of game.
They also never mentioned that pasting a photo onto a Q3 Model made it looke like a deformed potato-head creature.
If the "journalists" did any actual investigating, they would have realized that not only is this game based on the books but also the COMIC BOOKS from Dark Horse Comics. The art and all of that remind of that Conan and not the one from the movies.
On of these "journalists" must have walked into an EB to get something for one of their kids and saw this game and said..."hmmm, it is a slow news day..."

As for the battle with the ratings system...how about we impose fines on the parents for NOT knowing what their kids are playing and using the game systems as babysitters.

Growing up, I had an hour a day (IF I had been a good boy and finished my chores and homework) to play and Mom and Dad always knew what I was playing and explained things to me.

Parents do not say NO to their kids enough, they do not take the time to learn what is going on their life, and they no longer punish them properly when they have done wrong.

Put all this blame of video games and movies and TV on the parents for not knowing what the kids are doing and doing anything about it.

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The Governator, instead of blazing a trail with his unique (for a politician) past career in violent movies, bends his back to the general mindset of Leland Yee and other conservative politicians. Why Arnold, why?

"So they’re all ultra-violent. Including Guitar Hero III and skate."

But think of all the skinned knees and elbows! Skate is supposed to be the ultra-realistic skating game, right? ;)
“So they’re all ultra-violent. Including Guitar Hero III and skate.”

Guitar Hero III is incredibly violent! It brainwashes the youth into attacking people with jumping scissor kicks!
What a godamn hypocrite. He made a living off of staring in violent movies and now is saying violent video games are bad. The devs said that the game is suposse to be based off the book not the movie.

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