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GP on Joystiq: Two Governors, Two Hypocrites
...the one in which GP explains what Mitt Romney and Arnold Schwarzenegger have in common when it comes to video games.Catch it only on Joystiq...
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MechaTama31: But that's the thing, it doesn't sound to me like he is advocating bullying, it sounds like he is accusing the SJWs of bullying the "nerds", who I can only assume refers to the GGers.10/19/2014 - 11:21pm
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Andrew Eisen: Interesting read. Unfortunately, too vague to form an opinion on but at least now I know what faefrost was talking about in James' editorial.10/19/2014 - 10:39pm
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Neo_DrKefka: Breaking GameJournoPros organized a blacklist of former Destructoid writer Allistar Pinsof for investigating fraud in IndieGoGo campaign http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2014/10/gamergate-destructoid-corruption-and-ruined-careers/10/19/2014 - 8:57pm
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Neo_DrKefka: Only good thing I seen come out of the Biddle incident was the fact a professional fighter offered to give 10k to an anti bullying charity for a round in the ring with Biddle.10/19/2014 - 7:49pm
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Neo_DrKefka: Even after all the interviews she is still on twitter making fun of people with disabilities (Autism) yet she is a part of the crowd that is on the so called right side of history...10/19/2014 - 7:48pm
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Neo_DrKefka: Which #GameGate supports are constantly being harassed and bullied. Brianna Wu who I told everyone she was trolling GamerGate weeks ago with her passive aggressive threats was looking for that crazy person in the crowd.10/19/2014 - 7:47pm
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Neo_DrKefka: I believe the problem #GamerGate has with Sam Biddle is he is apart of this blogging group that in a way hates or detests its readers. Also being apart of the crowd that claims its on the right side of history isn't helping when he is advocating bullying10/19/2014 - 7:45pm
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MechaTama31: Of course, I'm looking at these tweets in isolation, I don't know a thing about the guy.10/19/2014 - 7:06pm
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MechaTama31: If anything, the sarcastic implication seems to be that the SJW crowd is bringing back the bullying of nerds. But it's the GGers who are out for his blood? I'm lost...10/19/2014 - 7:01pm
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MechaTama31: I don't really get this Sam Biddle thing. The reaction to his tweets seems to be taking them at face value, but... they're tongue in cheek. Right?10/19/2014 - 7:00pm
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Andrew Eisen: I have it. The problem, so far as I can tell, is neither of them allow me to overlay my webcam feed or text links to my Extra-Life fundraising page.10/19/2014 - 4:08pm
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quiknkold: and yes, its free10/19/2014 - 4:05pm
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quiknkold: should grab Hauppauge capture. has mic support and can upload directly to youtube10/19/2014 - 4:05pm
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Andrew Eisen: The former.10/19/2014 - 4:00pm
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quiknkold: was it StreamEez, or the StreamEez feature in Hauppauge Capture? cause I know Capture has alot more support from the devs.10/19/2014 - 3:54pm
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Andrew Eisen: I actually tried StreamEez last week. Flat out didn't work.10/19/2014 - 3:53pm
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quiknkold: I use the Hauppauge Capture software's StreamEez. Arcsoft showbiz for recording. I just streamed a few hours of Persona 4 Golden with zero problem using the program. Xsplit is finniky when it comes to Hauppauge10/19/2014 - 3:40pm
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Andrew Eisen: Trying to capture console games and broadcast with Open Broadcaster System because I've had technical difficulties using XSplit 3 weeks in a row.10/19/2014 - 3:37pm
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quiknkold: and what are you trying to capture?10/19/2014 - 3:31pm
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quiknkold: same one I have. ok. what program are you using?10/19/2014 - 3:31pm
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Comments
Though there's not many good choices either way. Just based on past votes and general positions, I would rank the candidates in this order in regards to censorship:
#1- Ron Paul. He subscribes to the 'shrink the Federal government until it's small enough to drown in a bathtub' school of thought. But he also has no chance.
#2- Fred Thompson. Makes "moralistic" noises from time to time about porn, abortion, and such, but is a committed federalist so wouldn't want the feds involved either way. Bonus points: Has voted against bills in the Senate to censor/regulate violent TV.
#3- Giuliani. Generally speaking, he's an authoritarian nightmare waiting to happen. But he's a big fan of the free market, so wouldn't get involved there. Not much of a consolation prize, but, err, yea..
#4- McCain. He's also voted against censorship/regulation of violent TV. But he likes government power and changes positions somewhat randomly when politically expedient. Oh, and, the McCain-Feingold political speech censorship, umm, "campaign reform" act, so, no.
Everyone else sucks.
Gouliani and Arnold are both nazis, along with Bush. There is proof. Try a search. This would explain why they don't want freedom of expression for our games, and why they support torture.
Waterboarding is not torture. Its coercion. And it works.
As to the 42% failure rate documented by the FTC in the sale of mature games to kids: That\'s very high failure rate, and David Walsh\'s NIMF confirms that the failure rate has now risen to 50%. You think America would tolerate a 50% failure rate in selling booze at 7-11 to minors? Get a grip.
Finally, \"Ron Paul has a great chance?\" At what, privatizing the interstate highway system? This guy is an anarchist, who is perfect to run the ESA and the ECA.
I don't know whether your JT, a Larouchie, or some troll, but 1/10.
Yet America tolerates a 70+% failure rate in selling unrated or R-rated movies to kids. So it doesn't surprises me if America tolerates a 42% failure rate of selling M-rated games to kids.
What? It has to have a 0% failure rate to be acceptable?
Many MANY more children get a hold of R rated movies and no one seems to care
@ King James
[i]I’ve been on that board. Good grief. The heat on that board is terrible. Proof of John Gabriel’s Greater Internet D*ckwad Theory for sure:
Normal Person + Anonymity + Audience = Total D*ckwad.[/i]
WHAT?!? This Anonymous always thought the Legion was proof enough of this theory (which I've never heard of before, will have to investigate)! Besides, this equation doesn't always equal 'Total D*ckwad' as you say, but that's another story entirely?
Have you undergone waterboarding? The former assistant attorney general did, and in his opinion it was torture.
As your myopic claims that NIMF's statistics are more accurate than those of the FTC I call shenanigans. We only have the word of a group with an agenda that their stats are accurate. As opposed to the FTC whose sole concern is the upholding of the law and determining these kinds of things. Long story short, its the job of the FTC to learn these numbers accurately. Any other group that tries to change the numbers must be questioned on their motives.
Now I, honestly, have no doubt that NIMF actually does care about the issue of M rated material getting into the hands of minors. I find that fact a little comforting actually. It doesn't change the fact that I disagree with their solutions, but knowing that they actually care means they can be talked to intelligently.
All we, as the gaming community, are asking for is consistency on the part of these watch dog groups. So far I have yet to see that consistency.
Did you fail reading comprehension as a child?
A 42% failure rate is still way lower than a 71% failure rate that the movie industry has in the last FTC report.
Are you that mentally deficient that you can't seem to understand that?
Yeah, I figure you're the same person. Same slashes before apostraphies. Unless we've got 2 idiots with the same problem... which wouldn't suprise me too much.
As to the waterboarding - if it's not torture, would *YOU* undergo it willingly? It's coersion in the same sense that breathing is a "suggestion". It may not be torture physically, but mentally? Don't you think the sensation of drowning like that, over and over, would scar someone mentally? If that's not in the US's definition of torture, our current regiem has lost touch with reality.
That's a problem for the RETAILERS, not the system itself. The system is fine. It's really quite easy, you know. The comparison to alcohol is rediculous, however - alcohol is a poison that, when consumed in small quantities, has euphoric side effects and some health benifits (blood thinner). Alcohol is a DRUG. Video games are a completly different medium, and therefore your analogy would be better if you compared them to a similar medium... say, the MPAA rating system. Guess what? When you're looking at two VOLUNTARY rating systems, and their enforcement, you get about the same result. Considering the MPAA has been around a LOT longer than the ESRB, they're doing very well, and the ESRB has politicians backing it, AND an education campaign. The next time you want to commit a logical fallacy, try to at least give us a challenge. The "moron from Miami" tried that one a long time ago, and we shot it down then, too.
check out this article.
Still not torture?
One final note... you say Ron Paul doesn't have a chance? Check out his live donation website. Keep in mind he only started using it about a day ago, but he's got a LOT of donations coming in.
LINK
I'd say he's got a chance, if his donation rate can sustain itself. As for him being an anarchist, that's not true and you know it, quit lying. Care to try again?
"Hypocrites? Hardly. Waterboarding, used only a few times, demonstrably saved lives. See this report at http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/11/agent.tapes/index.html."
It saving lives is not a qualifier for whether or not it is torture. You could hack off someone's legs with an ax and get the same info to save the same amount of lives.
Using torture for a military advantage, thus saving lives, is nothing new.
"Not sure what lives a kid playing GTA has saved."
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/12/14/soldier-gamer-dies-in-iraq/
"As to Arnold, the movie industry understands that no one under 17 was supposed to get into any of his R-rated movies. As David Walsh of NIMF recently proved the video game industry sells M-rated games to kids under 17 about half the time."
Oh really? The movie industry understands that? Then just why are minors able to buy violent R-rated movies, such as Arnolds 80% of the time?
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/07/mvreport.shtm
Oops, your argument just broke.
"Waterboarding is not torture. Its coercion. And it works."
Torture has been used for coercion for a long time. You have yet to prove how its NOT torture.
"As to the 42% failure rate documented by the FTC in the sale of mature games to kids: That\’s very high failure rate, and David Walsh\’s NIMF confirms that the failure rate has now risen to 50%. You think America would tolerate a 50% failure rate in selling booze at 7-11 to minors? Get a grip."
If 42% for the video game industry is high just how do you find the movie industry's 80% acceptable? I would accept a 50% failure rate to selling booze at a 7-11 to a minor over an 80% failure rate.
These Governors are hypocrites, and so are you Jack.
Schwarzenegger is also a fucking hypocrite. I wonder how many millions of dollars he made by starring in bloody violent movies like Total Recall or The Terminator?