December 19, 2007
As we reported last night in a GamePolitics exclusive, controversial attorney Jack Thompson's Grand Theft Auto lawsuit was dismissed yesteday by a judge in Albuquerque, New Mexico.Thompson and local attorney Steve Sanders filed the suit last year on behalf of the brother of a man killed by his 14-year-old son. The plaintiff alleges that Cody Posey was influenced by Grand Theft Auto Vice City to kill his father, stepmother and stepsister. Testimony and evidence presented at Cody Posey's 2006 juvenile court trial, however, showed that he had been physically and sexually abused by his father.
GamePolitics has received this excellent account of yesterday's proceedings from a source who attended part of the hearing before Judge Valerie Huling:
Steve Sanders and Jack Thompson appeared on behalf of the plaintiffs (I think that [plaintiff] Verlin Posey - Delbert's brother/Cody's Uncle -- was there with his wife). New Mexico attorney Charles "Kip" Purcell appeared on behalf of Sony and Take-Two, along with Robert Atkins, Douglas Pravda and Phil Kopsinski (sp?) of [T2/Sony's law firm Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison]...
Initially, the Court pointed out that, even though there were numerous motions to dismiss, they essentially broke down along two lines: personal jurisdiction and failure to state a claim. The Judge asked that the parties not simply re-hash their previous motions, responses and replies. Judge Valerie Huling was obviously very prepared and had read all of the briefs and cases cited therein.
The Court started by hearing the arguments regarding personal jurisdiction. Robert Atkins argued on behalf of the defendants. He pointed out that neither Sony nor Take-Two has any physical offices or brick-and-mortar stores in New Mexico, nor does either company have any registered agents here. That is, the plaintiffs could not bring Sony/T2 before the Court under "general jurisdiction."
Atkins addressed "specific jurisdiction," where the plaintiffs could theoretically sue Sony/T2 under the New Mexico Long-Arm Statute. Under that law, they could be sued if they "transacted business" within the state and had "sufficient minimum contacts" such that it would be fair to bring them before an NM court.
Apparently, in their response, the plaintiffs tried to allege that there was specific jurisdiction based on the number of PS2's & copies of GTA:VC sold within the state, and also based upon the existence & nature of the defendants' websites... Atkins basically showed that the plaintiffs couldn't prove facts sufficient to bring Sony/T2 within the jurisdiction of New Mexico courts...
In closing, Atkins made it a point to illustrate that, under New Mexico's long-arm statute, the lawsuit must "arise out of" the business that Sony/T2 do in this state - and that the Posey killings are too far removed from the purchase of a PS2 and video game to satisfy the statute.
The Court then addressed the motions to dismiss for Failure to State a Claim... Jack Thompson handled the argument on this one. Jack essentially repeated the talking points of his complaint, as well as his usual stable of arguments (I predicted Columbine; APA says there's a causal link; Harvard brain scan studies; the "game" label is benign; these are "murder simulators" and not speech; I have four experts ready to testify; the "M" label is an admission of liability, etc.).
The Court acknowledged all of the "social & medical science" but said that Jack was weak on the legal argument - Jack responded by citing very heavily to the Rice v. Palladin case (the case which, by the admission of its defendants, involved a book that was intended as a how-to manual on putting out a hit). Jack made the claim that Palladin was dispositive of this case (but Sanders v. Acclaim specifically says that it is not applicable to this kind of fact pattern).
Jack also tried to make the case that Sony/T2 would be responsible for the 3d party criminal actions of Posey because they introduced a product that they knew to be dangerous to minors (based upon "neurological difference" between teens and adults).
Jack hung a lot of his case on the words of Sandra Grisham, the Cody Posey prosecutor. He said that her phone call to him regarding the "public health issues" raised by the sale of these games, prompted his obscenity/nuisance claims against the defendants...
Also, he repeated his "civil conspiracy" claims by alleging that the ESRB was the "fox guarding the henhouse" with respect to game ratings, and that the ESA has been "misrepresenting" facts to the citizens of this country concerning the sale of M-rated games to minors. He claimed that the FTC findings (42% rate) "prove us right."
He essentially closed by saying that the 1st Amendment doesn't protect the sale of harmful products to children, and that these games harm both the player and the innocent 3rd party victims, and that "anybody who says that these games don't have some kind of impact" (or something to that effect) has to be "some kind of nut" (his words).
He anecdotally mentioned that the head of the ESA [Doug Lowenstein] threatened to sue CBS if 60 Minutes aired the Ed Bradley interview with Jack concerning the Alabama case. While he never came out & said "I represent another family in Alabama," Jack hinted that "we've got the same experts that we do in the Alabama case." He, naturally, made a big deal about the Alabama case avoiding dismissal [and proceeding to trial, scheduled for 2008]
Robert Atkins handily rebutted Jack's arguments, first by stating that this case was very much about free speech and creative expression. The Court asked him if that included marketing to kids, to which he essentially responded yes, because no law on the books prevents ads to kids. Atkins rightfully relied heavily on both the James v. Meow Media and Sanders v. Acclaim cases in making his arguments; he called those cases the "roadmap" that builds on decades' worth of similar cases regarding TV, rap music and magazines.
Atkins also opined that Rice v. Palladin actually makes the Defendants' case for them, as the words of that opinion specifically limit its effect to the facts of that case. The 4th Circuit in Rice specifically counseled against extending its ruling to the "free dissemination of ideas."
Atkins also showed how the boilerplate general rule is that one does not ordinarily have a duty to prevent the criminal actions of others. Jack had, apparently, clung to a narrow exception to that rule, which Atkins showed to be inapplicable. Atkins mentioned that Jack's own experts testified in the run-up to the Alabama case that there was, in fact, no scientific evidence establishing the causal link [between violent games and real-world violence]...
The overall tone was pretty respectful - I came into the courtroom a few minutes before the hearing; there was no chit-chat or banter between the parties. It was pretty silent until Jack asked aloud whether or not the Vikings beat the Bears last night... Jack didn't engage in much mud-slinging or attacks on Take Two or Sony during the argument. I wouldn't call him subdued or restrained, but he was definitely lower-key than we've seen him in prior cases.




Comments
E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
Random Tower: Game News and Commentary
I'll explain something to ya Jack, you likely won't listen, but I'll say it anyway.
In a court of law, the judge DOES NOT GIVE A DAMN if you were on TV or not,and if you intend to gain favor for it, you will more than likely get the opposite. You are NOT a celebrity and WILL NOT be given special treatment for being a talking head on some new program that will take anyone calling themselves an expert.
Face it, this case, is over, and you handed victory right to those you wanted to destroy
@Eville1
With how badly tarnished that, position is, I doubt anyone else would want it now.
Wonder if this decision can be used to dismiss the Alabama case?
Just enjoy the fact that for once this was not a circus and that Take Two's new laywers seem to be more than up for the task of getting these frivolous lawsuits dismissed post haste.
It's a wonder this man has gotten as far as he has in his career. Maybe Vanderbilt Universty really does hand out their law degrees from Crackerjack boxes considering how he acts. Again, what made him even think he stood any kind of a chance?
Please, if there is any justice in this world, the Florida Bar will revoke his law license and put him out of his misery. He simply is unfit to practice law. This clearly shows how much of a money-grubber, attention-seeker and pathetic excuse for a lawyer he truly is.
this vermin is a stain on our legal system
Way ta go!
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
To all those in the past that have accused Jack of sleeping through law class, please stop. I do it and I have perfect grades. So it's no wonder Jack managed to get his license.
He'll spin this in a way the news will be telling him to get his story straight.
You sleep through them and get perfect grades - not a difficult thing to do in many classes, law or otherwise. Law isn't terribly difficult to understand anyways. Consider this for a moment.
Now consider that Jack failed the BAR exam on the first attempt, and now, even after passing it, he still fails so hard as a lawyer.
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Papa Midnight
This is pure gold. I may not be a lawyer, but I still find the account of the court proceedings hilarious, to a certain degree.
I had to say it.
Why of course, don't you see? This dismissal is all part of Jack's plans, they're playing right into his hands with this action. He can't believe that they would do something that would provide such an incredible advantage to him. I mean, you don't get to be on 60 Minutes and Fox News if you weren't as brilliant as he is, and able to see how this is exactly what he needs to win this case.
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Damn, I can't figure out how to fit a good book plug in to this one to complete the rant in True Thompson Style(tm). That, and it needs some reference to "stupid kids" and "pixelanties", maybe a drivers license with Batman in place over his own photo like he used to do. Oh yeah, and gay porn.
Obviously this is just another blow at Jack from the conspiracy against him, attempting to continue their “collaborated assault”.
Ok, so we've got Judge Huck from the Kotaku case, Gawker Media, Blank Rome, R*, the opposing council and the judge from the Alabama case, the FLA BAR, GamePolitics.com readers, Dennis himself, and now Judge Valerie Huling in this conspiracy. Did I miss anyone?
Don't forget to encourage suicide, just wouldn't be Thompson Style if you didn't.
As for jack being subdued: PFFFFT. Jack just knows when his antics would get him in real trouble. Considering the bar trial, I'd be willing to bet that his self-censoring "Don't F*** up" ability is on overdrive. The last thing he needs is another bar complaint.
Right. Oh, and I need to call everyone here a coward for not posting all their personal information and for using an alias. I think we've hit just about all the major stylistic points of a typical Thompson post.
Yup. He should have taken the left turn.
What can't he understand? Parent's don't want to give up their rights to decide what's good/bad for their children? That games are protected under the first amendment? That as years pass more and more gamers grow older and yet crimes gone down, and now those same gamers can vote on issues like this?
Each day that passes another gamer gets to voting/jury duty age. He's fighting an uphill battle with little to no proof to back his views. Yet there are 9.5 million people alone who play World of Warcraft that participate in society on a regular basis with out killing anyone or manifesting violence in other ways. Let alone the millions of others who play violent games and never commit violent acts.
x1 Agree
It seems that he realy is learning his lesson, but then again, maybe he thinks if he tones the attacks down a bit, he can avoid disbarment in Florida (not likely).
Ooh, burn! Bravo good sir, bravo.
a) Accept social responsibility for the fact that he's in control of what his children are exposed to, while simultaneously assisting other parents in understanding the new medium for what it is, and how they should take measures in watching their kids around it.
b) Declare the new medium as the second coming of Hitler, and prance around as a bible-thumping, grandstanding narcissist who pretends to be on moral high-ground while trying to sneak his hands into the pockets of the newest and largest entertainment industry today.
Which one do you think he chose?
Still, this disbarring could be a new start for Jack. Now that he doesn't have the legal push to attempt such attacks on the industry (save for when he does so as a concerned citizen, in which case he has to find himself a lawyer as crazy as him), his only option is A (or the undeclared C, which is B without the dipping into pockets part) which means he is just a concerned parent. This whole mess, ironically happening at this time of year, is almost like a personal version of "A Christmas Carol" for him. We are soon to lose one of the most annoying thorns in the side of free speech in the form of interactive media, and he'll be learning that sometimes it's better to inform the ignorant than to attack the innocent.
God bless us, every one! (except for me and Pandralisk)
While fining massacre-chasing "litigious bastards" like Johnny Bruce Thompson would be a nice idea, he represents the idea that the USA has become a lawsuit-happy society. There are tons of other examples of filing frivolous lawsuits that get tossed, so unfortunately, I don't think things will change anytime soon if ever. To add fuel to the fire, being a successful litigator of course pays very, very well.
Johnny Bruce Thompson is unique, and not unique when you look at the bigger picture.
Well, it may be that was a "previous argument" the judge asked the parties not to bring back up. I suspect it's more likely that it just doesn't help the case nearly as much as pointing out that "Actually, your lawsuit has no legal basis."
It's vaguely like when a murderer or rapist is brought to court, and the whole time is spent proving what an awful person the victim was and how they deserved it anyway. Court is weird and stupid like that.
and yes the vikings beat the bears. please dont tell me he's a vikes or bears fan. i would think he'd be more into this seasons fins as he could relate to em more :P
I was wondering about that.
Now I have an urge to put the viking kittens flash on loop.
He was banned again.