Have some video game critics completely given up on the idea of verifying their claims before issuing them?
We ask because we're flabbergasted by what's been said about Xbox 360 role-playing hit Mass Effect in recent days.
GamePolitics reported last week on bizarre accusations by the conservative Cybercast News Service that Mass Effect featured "explicitly graphic sexual intercourse."
That those charges are just wrong didn't stop conservative blogger Kevin McCullough from picking up the CNS nonsense and running with it. McCullough, in fact, tries to turn the alleged porn in Mass Effect into a presidential campaign issue. In a (not so) cleverly-titled Townhall.com article, The "Sex-Box" Race for President, McCullough writes:
[Presidential candidates] all probably assume they have better, much more important, urgent, timely, things to campaign on, but I sure would like to get their individual takes on the new video game that one company is marketing to fifteen year old boys.
GP: Do we really need to point out that Mass Effect is rated "M" for players 17 and older? More from McCullough:
It's called "Mass Effect" and it allows its players... to engage in the most realistic sex acts ever conceived. One can custom design the shape, form, bodies, race, hair style, breast size of the images they wish to "engage" and then watch in crystal clear, LCD, 54 inch screen, HD clarity as the video game "persons" hump in every form, format, multiple, gender-oriented possibility they can think of...
GP: Has McCullough played - or even invested any time at all in researching - Mass Effect? Based on what he has written, we can't imagine that he has. His screed continues:
Here's a question [for the candidates]... "How much moral judgement should the President push into legislative issues that are likely to severely damage our children's innocence, function, and capability?..."
If a pre-teen, teen, young adult, or adult male plays such a game in which the women DO submit without choice, are made to appear as Barbie streetwalkers, and perform whatever act can be imagined, what's to stop that same male from assuming that the women in his "other world" shouldn't be forced to do the same.
...And because of the digital chip age in which we live - "Mass Effect" can be customized to sodomize whatever, whoever, however, the game player wishes.
With it's "over the net" capabilities virtual orgasmic rape is just the push of a button away.
McCullough wraps up with a call for legislation apparently designed to drive Mass Effect developer BioWare out of business:
How refreshing would it be for a President to... put his pen and signature to a bill that dealt with such simulated sex excess in a way that was punitive to its creators to such a degree that they would never recover from it?
GP: We've seen some ill-informed criticisms of video games over the years, but McCullough has definitely raised (or, perhaps, lowered) the bar in that regard.
Once again, for anyone who cares to actually, you know, research the well-known love scene in Mass Effect, here's the video:
Comments
Damn, Mass Effect sounds a LOT more entertaining now! ;)
Geeze, this guy practically sounds like he's salivating. He sounds like he just heard about the general idea (shots of curves, some writhing, sound effects, etc, IE no worse than a PG-13 movie), and then let his imagination run wild...
I haven't bought Mass Effect, and I wasn't going to. I don't like Bioware games. At this point, I'm considering it, simply to see personally just how far from the truth this lying pundit actually is.
I'm seriously at a loss for words. Not even Wacko Jacko is this ill-informed. Every single word out of his mouth is a load of crap. Someone needs to run him out of his blog.
I own Mass Effect and it's NOTHING like that. The only "forms" you can adjust is the shape of your character's head and nothing else. They don't allow you to change their body shape or breast size like this stupid asshole claims. Also they don't even show sex in the "sex scene", so how the hell is this the most "realistic sex acts ever conceived" when they don't even show actual sex. They just show the characters naked in PG-13 form might I add where nipples and genitalia is never shown and the closest thing to full on nudity is a quick flash of an ass.
These people don't even try to do research anymore, they just make up a whole crap load of outrageous lies.
They'll be calling to ban displays like that next because they allow you to view such filth.
"It’s called “Mass Effect” and it allows its players… to engage in the most realistic sex acts ever conceived."
Sure. Sue BioWare via Thompson's law firm. I'll fetch some popcorn.
OMGWTF?!?!?!?
It's things like this that make me wonder if there should be mandatory IQ testing for everyone, so that humanity can isolate the droves of morons that cover the earth.
Perhaps we could send them all to a remote island, dredged from the bottom of the ocean, shaped like a giant broken heart, or ruptured brain.
On this new moron paradise, no videogames, movies, tv, newspapers or any other irrationally lumped form of "voilent media" will be created or imported. The unlucky newborn children of the runoff of human intellect will inevitably rebel violently against their biological sources, leading these droves of blame-displacers to take torches to every palm tree that can be found, as surely these vulgar coconuts must be responsible for the upbringing of their idiot-spawn.
A man can dream, can't he? CAN'T HE?!?!?!
*Huge breath of air* HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHHAHAHhahahahahahah
If the game didn't exist, no adults or children or fools could have had the dream about it. Ergo, Bioware's fault for being an enabler.
Shame on you, Bioware! Boo! Hiss!
Yeah, fuck the economy, and health care, and our foreign policy, and the war, and our national debt, and the rise in gas prices...WE NEED TO FOCUS ON VIDYA GAMES!
But yeah, Christ almighty, what kind of crap is this guy spewing? Mass Effect offers nothing of what this guy is talking about. I shudder to think that out and out lie will take priority over honest to goodness RESEARCH.
I read your comment, well said.
I seriously hope they pick up your comment, but with all due respect, I doubt it'll happen.
A quick scan indicates the sort of political leanings the article author and the site's readership seem to take - Christian conservatives.
That doesn't change the fact that McCullough proved himself to be one grossly uninformed wannabe "journalist."
And from the looks of it, that article bashing Mass Effect isn't the vilest garbage they've got on display.
People who are so moronic, so utterly mindless that they will make up completely far-fetched lies and throw them at a soft target, caring nothing for the target, but only for themselves.
People who use religion as an excuse for repression.
People who use ANYTHING as an excuse for repression.
May they all be thrown out of influence, and only have the capability to yell from their porch.
With it’s “over the net” capabilities virtual orgasmic rape is just the push of a button away."
Methinks this schmuck got ripped off at the store - the clerk probably replaced his copy of Mass Effect for a copy of some raunchy Japanese Eroge, and he was none the wiser.
mabey noteveryone on earth should take an iq test, but before you brodcast, you defenatly need 1.
Seriously. Mass Effect is a game where you can create your own character, male or female, with some customisation options for their looks. And if you follow a certain path in the game, you will get the option to have sex with a female alien. The scene is mildly erotic. Both characters are naked, but it's too dark to really see anything. If I'd have to compare it to a movie, it's more like the love scene in an old movie like Ghost, and certainly not explicit like in Jerry Maguire. Oh and the game is M-rated. I wish people would get their facts straight.
Call it sourgraping. Most guys rant against stuff they can't get on a regular basis.
without sexuality none of us would be here, so why are all of these uber christain conservatives going apeshit
we are currently facing a ton of shit coming from a fuckload of stupid
@Zerodash
I am a conservative but find this to be (to be politially correct) bullshit. Please refrain from sweeping such statements. One fool does not (or should not) label all.
I'm surrounded in this world by idiots. I swear they will go after Smash Bros Brawl.
Incidentally this is the first I've heard of it being rated M in America. Sup with that?
And the worst part is that people in the comments section believe and agree with him. He's apparently arguing that the government should regulate the sale of widely available interactive rape simulators, while ignoring the fact that THERE ARE NO WIDELY AVAILABLE INTERACTIVE RAPE SIMULATORS. Mass Effect is nothing like what he's described.
And @koku: I also thought that Bioware should consider suing for slander (or libel, as the case may be.) The question is how widespread the article ends up being. Bioware probably doesn't want to look like it polices the internet and threatens lawsuits against everyone with an internet connection and an unfavorable opinion. But if McCollough's article is read - and believed - by a lot of people then I think it'd be an entirely appropriate move on Bioware's part.
.........sorry for the chatspeak as a response, but... ROFLMFAO.
"With it’s “over the net” capabilities virtual orgasmic rape is just the push of a button away."
Excuse me sir, but... how exactly can one 'rape' over the internet? Unless it's, like, rigged on one end?
"[Presidential candidates] all probably assume they have better, much more important, urgent, timely, things to campaign on,"
Yes, they do. There's like, i dunno, THE WAR ON TERROR. Get out from under your rock, good sir.
"but I sure would like to get their individual takes on the new video game that one company is marketing to fifteen year old boys."
*cough readthedamnlabel cough*
"If a pre-teen, teen, young adult, or adult male plays such a game in which the women DO submit without choice, are made to appear as Barbie streetwalkers, and perform whatever act can be imagined, what’s to stop that same male from assuming that the women in his “other world” shouldn’t be forced to do the same."
Simple. Video games aren't the Matrix. They don't download things into people's heads. I assume next you're going to say cameras steal people's souls?
Looks like some guy going by the monicker David Austin has just pigeon-holed us alongside hardcore trekkies. Quoting his retort to the last few GP dudes who posted:
Pathetic Mass Effect lovers
"...gives us gamers the ability to connect and really sympathize."
Wow. You want to "connect" and "really sympathize"? Get out and talk to a real woman for a change. Interact with a human being in flesh and blood. You might not get the easy cyber-sex action you're looking for, but you might end up with something far more valuable:
REAL HUMAN intimacy.
Sheesh, why you don't crawl under a rock out of pure embarrassment is beyond me. You guys are like the convention-going trekkies who flip out because episode #27 violated a scientific principle. WHO CARES IF Mc Coulough GOT SOME DETAILS WRONG? What's wrong is that this is, among other things, a simulated sex game where losers get their jollies ...
... and you can guarantee that 100's of underage future Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold types will be doing the same thing. That's what this article is about, and it's spot on._
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Cripes. The site's readership us just as anal as the author.
...i'm not even going to read that article. It looks like something your average 13-year-old would put on youtube as a hate-video toward fans of something that's popular.
This whole story sounds like something straight from The Onion. My first reaction was to laugh, but that comment by "David Austin"... wow. I guess some people are just "happy" being angry and ignorant.
If anyone was planning to read through the comments, on that website, really don't bother. Save yourself the migraine.
Often, it's not worth it.
Now, let us all point and laugh.
*points* GAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA! *rolling on floor while laughing* AAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA! *begins smashing fists onto floor in fit of laughter*
"If anyone was planning to read through the comments, on that website, really don’t bother. Save yourself the migraine."
No. Austin asociated gamers with the likes of trekkies. This means war.
I'm a Gundam Otaku, damn it!
*No offense to the real Star Trek fans.
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If anyone was planning to read through the comments, on that website, really don’t bother. Save yourself the migraine.
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Oh! if only I had read your advice sooner! *cries*
Go ahead and try. Bioware is a Canadian company. Even if this does work, you'd probably see a huge international incident. Kiss large shipments of meat goodbye, kiss all that softwood lumber goodbye, kiss the American economy goodbye.
No effing idea. Austin probably thought it would be "clever" to associate us "antisocial" gamers to the likes of another poorly understood niche group.
It just reveals his bigotry.
With it’s “over the net” capabilities virtual orgasmic rape is just the push of a button away."
Damn I must not be putting the right points into my character. I have neither Customized Sodomy nor Virtual Orgasmic Rape as my options when interacting with a female NPC.
By Kevin McCullough
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/cc835097120af09d802573590...
I wonder... if they were so sexually repressed, would this whole game have slipped under the radar?
Idiocy has no borders my friend.
apparently 'thanks for pointing out. but politics discussion is not allowed'
gesz if companies dont stand up to this BS then things wont get better.
If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll always get what you've always gotten.
That's why you PM the or E-mail the story to them ;).
Hopefully his readers do a Google search on the game and become blinded by long, droning sci-fi plot.
I mean really since when are you able to create characters to have sex with, I must have missed it on my first play through.
What a crock of bullshit propaganda just to get server hits.
More like 40 seconds. After that, it's the uh... pillow talk. Sorta. (Ie- "Woo! That was fun! Moving on...")
At least, that's what I'm seeing in that video clip up there. Heh.
Anyways, yeah, someone mention that in that other comment board. (I would do it, but 1- I can't deal with such willful stupidity and 2- I'm not a conservative, so it would feel wrong pointing out the errors to them myself...)
I think JT is avoiding any sex related game issues since his gay porn fiasco. He'll stick to violence.
MMmmmm.... smells like... sanity. If only the rest of the world would join in.
And it will be wonderful and funny and sad.
....like pretty much everything Jacko gets involved with...
Note sure. You may want to read up on some of the Japanese H-games that are in circulation right now.
No. It's not a T2/R* game. He doesn't care about anything else in the industry. Save for a scant few like Halo, Doom, Mortal Kombat, and Counter-Strike, he doesn't mention ANY other sandbox games or other M Rated titles, like Saints Row, Dead Rising, Resident Evil, or anything of the sort.
He's obsessed with 'taking down/destroying' T2, like they're some sort of embodiment of the entire industry to him.
He doesn't seem to get the fact that the company is not selling sex, rather selling a video game.
As for customization, you can change your avatar's (player model) face, skin, hair, and eye color. Nothing else. Nada, zip, zilch. No body type configuration, no breast enhancement surgery, not even to adjust the player height. As a sign of good journalism, perhaps this fellow should actually purchase and test said game before he ever starts harping on it, but then again, what journalist does research? I mean heaven help us if they actually present real facts instead of good-speak.
As for game play, you play a Human marine Commander in the near future who's mission is to prevent a deluded and homicidal alien from using an army of androids from destroying all organic life as we know it. In order to do that the player must traverse alien worlds looking for clues as to this alien's plan and engaging enemy forces in order to save civilian lives from murder and mutilation from said androids. In a nut shell, classic space opera stuff, you know, like Star Wars or Dune, or Buck Rodger for you really old people out there.
As for this 'graphic sex scene' if is a five minute sub-plot in the game between the main character and either a human woman or an mono-gendered alien if your player is male, or with a human male or same mono-gendered alien if the player is female. It's not forced upon the player to do said sub-plot, and there is quite a bit of explanations before hand with the possible 'choices' saying that they wish to wait. As for the 'graphic' nature of it, frankly, the movies Ghost and Top Gun had more graphic love scenes in them, and they were from the 1980's. Of course, this is discounting the fact that the game is rated M due to violence related to fighting the before mentioned evil alien and his army of robots, but why confuse the issue with the facts, right? After all, it is required for retailers to verify that the individual purchasing said title is over 18 years old, and it's the responsibility of the parents to know what they are buying their child before they purchase it, correct? After all, both Democrats and Republicans have been harping on and on about parental rights and family values, then something as simple as parental responsibility would be a minor issue, wouldn't it?
It doesn't take a uber-geek or a basement dwelling social outcast to see this stuff, but it does take a deluded fool who doesn't even do even the most basic of subject research, which most journalism students would point out, I might add.
"My kingdom for an edit button!"
And from the looks of it, Austin's decided to walk out. Nasty parting line, though:
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"As a lover of first-person shooters for 15 years (ever since doom) I used to think John Carmack was "like a god". I still like video games, but have increasingly become more and more disgusted with the direction the gaming industry has been going. I was sad to cancel my PCGamer subscription many years ago, but felt like I just couldn't support the kinds of things they promoted. Mass Effect may not be nearly what McCollough made it out to be, but it's heading that direction. Like I said ... just you wait.
I've spent far too much time defending myself against the trolls who seem unduly concerned with defending simulated sex on consoles because it's "tasteful" or "artistic". There's an endless supply of them ... I used to be a 1st person fanatic, defending them at every chance I got. Now I realize ... they're just ones and zeros. Mostly zeros."
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Amusing to point out that for the whole time he was there, all he did was try to stress the point that Mass Effect was trying to be some "sex simulator." And now he fesses up to being some former FPS geek.
And the sad fact was, it was based on a story that was complete and utter BS from start to finish.
http://kevinmccullough.townhall.com/blog/g/82597684-a9b5-419f-b2d8-251bc...
"Why Ron Paul Supporters do not wish to protect children...
It's a frightening world.
And one of the reasons I am growing to hate libertarians: they live in denial. Read the comments following. And for the record, I saw three kids last week, purchase "M" rated video games at a local Best Buy - with no ID check whatsoever...
But that's why libertarians are not conservatives. Conservatives acknowledge God's morality, libertarians shoot Him the middle finger..."
"Amusing to point out that for the whole time he was there, all he did was try to stress the point that Mass Effect was trying to be some “sex simulator.” And now he fesses up to being some former FPS geek. "
I would consider that an intellectual victory for our side.
Not that I tried to find a way for 20 minutes or anything...
http://kevinmccullough.townhall.com/blog/g/bb0b89fe-f2d8-40dc-9c2b-0f4ee...
"2pm:
It has an "M" rating for "Mature." It is violent, bloody, contains an "ark", religious prophecies and is considered a "thrill kill" video game...Halo 3 is also now being used by churches to reach young people... and I love it! "Halo Nights" have become the rage with local church youth groups, or "Halo Halls" for youth in after school hours. Some serve pizza, teach a bible lesson, and then turn on the video games. Churches that aren't doing it formally do have staff members that are in essence trying the same thing. 800.345.WMCA."
Plus, I found a Seattle Times article praising gamers who involve in charity such as the creators of Penny Arcade. Surprisingly, it's written by someone named Kevin McCullough... But is it the same McCullough who ranted about "Mass Effect" ?
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110035
"My tears cry for oppression of their creator's mind"
-Me
Maybe cause you probably weren't actively searching out like some people ;)
Yep, it's the one where Wrex does a Strip tease and pole dance for Garrus.
[/end sarcasm]
Eugh, that's the LAST thing I needed to imagine right before lunch.
Make me unsee it, please.
Hello and thank you for taking the time out to read my email, I would like to take you up on your recently written article: The "sex-Box" race for president, I am not one for nitpicking, yet nor for issuing blanket statements, therefore I would like to address you on the key factors where some glaring mistakes were made in your article.
I own the game Mass Effect, it is a highly interactive story in which you control a commander *insert whatever first name you want here* Shepard, he and his squad of 6 (interchangable members) are on a mission to stop a cycle that has repeated every 50,000 years, I don't want to go into details because if you ever play it I would hate to ruin the story for you
Anyway on to the first issue with your article:
One can custom design the shape, form, bodies, race, hair style, breast size of the images they wish to “engage”
No, I am afraid that that part of the article alone is rife with inaccuracy, for example: your customisation is limited to the following: Gender, colour (of the human spectrum), hair style and facial features (Facial hair, freckles, eye/nose shaping that sort of thing) and then you may also tweak the backstory, allowing for a deeper understanding of your characters history (including scars if your Commander Shepard has them). There is no possible way to alter the size of the breasts (on a female character), the shape/height of the body or the race of your Commander Shepard.
My Cmdr Ben Shepard for example was an Earthborn soldier who survived a thresher maw incident on the planet Akuze, he had brown hair, a small scar over his right eye and a goatee growing, as well as slight blemishing across his face.
next bit:
video game “persons” hump in every form, format, multiple, gender-oriented possibility they can think of…
A bit over the top don't you think? there are a grand total of 3 possible love interests for your character, The Asari (all Asari are physically female): Liara T'soni, the human female soldier: Ashley Williams and The Human male Sentinel: Kaidan Alenko. As a subplot (IE like a side quest) a male Cmdr Shepard may choose to romance Ashley Williams or Liara T'soni, and a female may romance Kaidan Alenko or Liara, (the Asari being a monogendered race, it is not considered homosexual).
The romance subplot is one that guides your character into a symbiotic bond with the NPC of their choosing, ensuring that they do not come to harm or feel upset by their actions, a romance can be broken by actions just as simple as killing a hostage crime lord out of spite, for the more sensitive characters like Liara at least.
There is, to my understanding, one proper "sex scene" in the game, and that involves the Commander and his love interest (Liara in my case) embracing and then ending up on the bed, there is a brief flash of Liara's bottom, that is it, the rest is too dark to see, but is comprised of kisses in a very dark environment.
There are no visible breasts, Genatalia or other such reproductive organs that even a Thompson follower could find offensive.
Nitpick number 3:
the women DO submit without choice, are made to appear as Barbie streetwalkers, and perform whatever act can be imagined
No No No, the love interest of your choosing will come to your character after he was faced with an impossible decision which [SPOILERS] involved the death of one of his close friends and crew members [/SPOILER] she comes to comfort him as your character is visibly depressed by the choice that he was forced to make, they eventually get on to the subject of their relationship with one another (provided you took the time out to actually build a relationship with a character), this leads to the darkened lovemaking scene in which there is only one sexual act, which you can not interact with nor modify, the only thing that will be different for players is the facial features and skin colour of their Commander Shepard, the rest is all scripted in to the scene, no position choices or anything of that sort.
Issue number 4/5 (this is a small one so I am going to put them together)
And because of the digital chip age in which we live - “Mass Effect” can be customized to sodomize whatever, whoever, however, the game player wishes.
With it’s “over the net” capabilities virtual orgasmic rape is just the push of a button away.
Right those paragraphs are absolutely VOID of facts, as I said before, there are 3 possible love interests in the game, and the lovemaking scene which has been so overblown is little more than a brief 50 second interaction with the love interest of your choosing.
and "over the net capabilities?" If you are refering to XBox live, then I would have to point out that this is a terrible misinterpretation of the facts, this game has no online play, the universe of mass effect spans the entire milky way, sees your character through a ton of star systems, nebulae, star clusters and individual planets, each one being wildly different from the rest, unlike an MMO (like Guild wars), when you play mass effect, your only companions are the virtual characters who you choose to be in your squad, apart from that you are alone.
There is the possibility to download content into the game, (with none released as of yet however) such as new weapons, vehicles, characters and planets, there is no possibility of downloading "virtual orgasmic rape" into the game at all, and you would have to be of a very unsound mind to even want to in the first place! All content that is downloadable over XBox live is content made by the producers of the game in question, Microsoft game studios themselves and approved third party software developers (however the final option is generally for software that you get onto the dashboard itself, not actual in game material), this "virtual orgasmic rape" which you claim is possible to attain can be found only within the head of the author of the article.
Since it seems that you are absent any firsthand knowledge of the game I will try and explain to you one more time "THERE IS NO RAPE, SEX SCENE CUSTOMISATION, GENATILIA, DOWNLOADABLE PORN OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT IN MASS EFFECT!"
To finalise this message I would also like to point out to you that the game is rated M 17+ in the states and BBFC 12 in the UK (where I live, however I plan on moving to LA as soon as I get out of college, there is a university in LA teaching nanotech which I am interested in)
The game is rated as such for:
Moderate graphic violence
1 Mild/ Moderate sexual scene
Use of Mild language
The rest of the stuff belongs only in your head I am afraid sir.
Thank you for taking the time to read my email, I hope for a reply (my address is included), as I would like to get to understand where your view of the game comes from, may I also suggest that you buy the game, there is in excess of 100 hours of fun and storytelling to be had from it and the story is told in the style of a JRR Tolkien novel, definitely worth a playthrough if you get the chance!
Thank you again, hope you get back to me!
Ben
HAHAHAHAHA..........
*whisper* I never played the game, was that a joke? *whisper*
Well, considering that Wrex is a humped back monitor lizard from hell with a shoot first, don't ask questions attitude, and Garrus is a hawk eyed, armored skin security officer for Citadel Security who is impatient about standard rules and proceedure for law enforcement; I'd have to say, yes, it's a joke.
If only it were true. I'd be grabbing a copy... lol.
Agreed, Thompson as at his own prostate, this guy is looking at his own tonsils.
I think i just threw up a little in my throat.
In all seriousness, this seems like a random attack on something he doesn't understand for reasons he heard from someone else who didn't understand what they were talking about. Well, at least we won't have to worry about missing Jack, because we seem to have another in training.
Be glad I didn't mention how many 'stones' Wrex has. Otherwise you may have had full projectile vomiting.
I've read or listened to a lot of overly-sensationalized crap, but this is inexcusable and not funny at all. This article just reeks of lies and defamation.
"You do realize, don't you that the intent of this game is to facilitate virtual killing and watching their character have sex with an alien? You do realize this?"
Oh, for the love of...
*grabs Austin and slaps him around*
The intent...
*slap*
of the game...
*slap*
is to tell...
*slap*
a freaking story!
Seriously, games have changed since the days of Doom, where the plotlines were little more than 'hey, these guys are trying to kill you. Kill them first!' Heck, Mass Effect's story wasn't the best I've played, but it was still better than most of the crap I've seen in movies or on television in recent years.
It's not about the guns, it's not about the boobs. It's about having a story you can really let yourself get wrapped up in.
*slap*
Now get it right!
I read his response. He didn't actually respond to a single thing I said other than that I was a Christian.
It's also very troubling to think there's someone out there who thinks the same way he does. You wonder how many more are out there.
apparently he in one post wants to educate parents because they dont understand ratings, so i pointed out that he should correct the article as it spreads misinformation,yet in the next he compares me leaving a gun for my kid to play with as the same as him playing with the game..
ok... yeah and ignores the parental control features issue i put forward.
oh and the point that the game has one pg-13 type sex scene isnt hardly the same as a loaded gun in terms of danger
"AMERICAN FAMILY ASSOCIATION ACTION ALERT - Roman orgy virtual game MASS EFFECT has children creating S&M characters for online seduction chat!"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
That just brightened up my day. Thank you.
And remember, kids, you can't spell 'McCollough' without 'UGH!'
(You almost can't spell it without 'LOL' as well, but I wasn't sure if referring to him as 'Kevin McC-LOL-ough' would catch on.)
Wait, you mean people played Mass Effect for reasons other than to facilitate virtual killing and having extremely realistic interspecies sex??
Next thing you're going to tell me that Assassin's Creed isn't actually an Islamic terrorist murder simulation! D: And that playing World of Warcraft doesn't mean I must forego socialization like some kind of monk! WHAT KIND OF LIE HAVE I BEEN LIVING? D:
It's rated Mature, after all.
What if people who buy the game like "customizable sodomy"?
A) Have played video games.
and
B) Know they're not magically evil.
because
C) THEY'RE NOT ALL FOR CHILDREN.
Until then... this is what you're gonna get.
Jack Thompson supports and enjoys taking part in the maiming and murdering of puppies and kittens
McCullough sexually assulted my grandma
McDonalds Chicken Nuggets are made out of unlucky 6 year old orphans
Liz Woolley runs a brothel
The british PM has an impressive collection of knives and "loves to test them out of random people"
India just flat out sucks
and Leeland Lee is an illiterate mentally handicapped senator with an IQ of 6
Well that meets my crazy baseless insulting quota for...today
and engage him in a lively debate about mass effects content and video games in general.
What? Did you think I was gonna say kill him?
-100% of the Catholic priests convicted of sexual abuse of minors [could] PLAY MASS EFFECT [if they had access to an] XBOX 360.
-Osama bin Laden is [possibly] playing Assassin's Creed RIGHT NOW and [might] use it to plan new terror attacks on the U.S.A.['s unprotected castles, souks, and Templar headquarters. Which we have so many of.]
This is absolutely ridiculous and shameful. I've never even heard of Kevin McCullough before. Where does some no-name blog-tard get the impetus to write an article filled with lies and distortions about a game with the equivalent of an R rating and its PG-13 sex scene?
And he has the nerve to call himself a conservative when he sounds like a nanny-stater of Hilary Clinton's caliber--or greater?
he ACTUALLY SAID well that its just like how some people say 'potato' and some spell it 'potatoe' its only a few minor errors and differences of opinion.
yeah... sure you hypocritical *** . i hope you get sued.
WHERE IS BIOWARE and WHY AREN"T THEY SUING THIS LYING BASTARD?
That is all .
Mr. McCullough:
I'm writing concerning your recent article "The 'Sex-Box'Race for President".
While I certainly understand the concern of any parent who isn't well-versed in video game knowledge on what games are and are not acceptable for their children, I have to take issue with many of the statements in your article.
First of all, the game does not allow any customization of species. The player's character is limited to a human male or female surnamed Sheppard, and while there is a large amount of customization in the facial details, hair color, and history, breast size is NOT one of the options.
Rather egregiously, you seem to imply that the game is a sex simulation, and nothing could be further from the truth. The game is a science fiction story in the vein of Star Wars that spans an entire galaxy and takes you to multiple planets in attempt to avert a great disaster. The game's main play mechanics involve fighting hostile aliens and customizing your weapons and abilities.
There is a sexual situation in the game. The video for this singular incident is available on youtube--and has been for a while now, leaving the magnitude of your inaccuracy quite mystifying. There is no possible male-male homosexual pairing, and the female-'female' pairing is only possible with an alien character from a spcies only one gender. The sequence, to my knowledge, is only possible with the alien character, and is not in any way customizable beyond the game's representation of your character. It is, in short, like a sex scene in any PG13 or R-Rated film.
And while this is certainly cause enough to keep the game out of the hands of children, your article makes the game wrongly sound as equal to hardcore pornography. This is by no means the case. You CANNOT create other characters aside from Sheppard.
It's clear from your article that you haven't played the game or even taken the time to research it--or, if not, outright lying--so I must ask, where on Earth did you get your facts?
You claim to be a Christian, and I would never accuse a well-meaning member of my faith of being a 'Bible-Thumper'--HOWEVER, your outright distortions of the facts reflect poorly on you and the cause of keeping adult material out of children's hands. Fifteen year olds can only play it if their parents give them permission, however.
The fact that the game is rated M for Mature--seventeen or older--should be evidence enough that a parent should not buy it for their child without considerable care and thought. The game is violent and contains some swearing, which is the primary reason for its rating. The sexual material itself, however, is most similar that of a PG-13 film.
None of these facts are reflected in your article. Are you so blinded by zeal that you failed to even make sure if you were typing accurate facts? Even if the sexual material were of a more explicit nature, Mass Effect is by no means a game for children--most children would likely find it boring anyway! But to call for legislation against it is irresponsible and such legislation would be unconstitutional. You seem to be wearing the banner of a conservative, yet you are now calling for policies that Hilary Clinton would be proud of. With all due respect, sir, the article is shameful and disgraceful.
And is the honest-to-God truth, as well as I know it.
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I'll post his reply if I receive one.
Maybe then some of these idiots will think before they act.
if bioware dont want to do anything then they are letting me down as a gamer.
Proof that these complete douchebags merely want to make themselves look better for others, as if they're some kind of Morally correct bitch who cleanses the world of filth.
I know I sound harsh right now but I seriously can't stand people like this. It makes me itch and I think it makes up the people on my personal list of the kinds of people who makes up the ass of the earth.
See? I can make shit up too. Lets see what I can do to another game.
You see! Left Behind is a game filled with smut and rape! Some people sodomize children and others whore themselves out on the street in graphic scenes featuring graphic homosexual intercourse!
I wonder who else I can make stuff up for!
You see! Rock Band is a game filled with...
I can do this all day.
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EPIC FAILBOAT FOR THE IDIOT WHO WROTE IT!
About 5 of them being related to the subject at hand and the rest bickering about political party views and a n00b going saying how his "pwnt"ing everyone and mocking them as well regardless of the person's party even if their on his side (seriously, "pwnt"? You can't "pwnt" anything, it's a true n00b at work!)
The sad part is, some of the people who posted on there were for this guy's opinion and wanting it banned. Some people just take things at face value and don't bother researching the topic for themselves, and it's sad when they bring others in the bunch as well, creating a nation of idiots.
How is two computer generated 'bodies' rubbing together slightly misconstrued as 'virtual orgasmic rape'? You know what, I don't want to know... I'd like to keep what little there is left of my common sense, rather than be brainwashed by complete twaddle.
@Altair
maybe we should Dead Rising for being offensive to the recently deceased, and Oblivion for being offensive to Daedra...
You can't even change your breast size in the game; that's funny. And other than choosing to be white, black, or Asian, you can't pick a race (meaning an alien race) for your character. And Ashley, Liara, and Kaiden all go down with you VERY willingly. There's no forcing of anyone. They're actually very well written, well formed little romances. The nudity is so brief, and doesn't reveal any major parts.
"jonwanker Says:
January 14th, 2008 at 9:57 am
I think… He’s gotten Mass Effect mixed up with some other.. Japanese titles…"
Haha! That's more likely.
the term is rocism, and i for one am also sick of the anti-robotic fiction in the media today portraying AIs as nothing more than mindless killers....
:p
i have
This is where we need to draw a line.
You have no idea how long I've been campaigning against these so-called "zombie" and "survival horror" games. Undead-Americans and Biologically Mutated Americans alike have been tragically stigmatized due to these "hate experiments." D: My friend, Duke Phillippe Lasrande of the Eternal Night, was turned away from a blood bank recently because they weren't going to cater to "the damned." Vampire-Americans, and indeed all Undead-Americans, deserve better than that!
Have you heard the phrase "Don't believe everything you read on the internet?"
You guys are being paranoid. So what if some Tom, Dick and Harry starts lying about the game to gain attention? You don't need to company to start suing him. As you've pointed out, people have already pointed out his bullshit. If everyone in the world DID take every blog face value, there would have been MASSIVE RIOTS by now, no questions asked.
Besides, if we encourage companies to start suing slander, one of these days they'll sue US for pointing out and criticising certain games for poor quality. Look at the Kane and Lynch incident.
I must say I found your column on “Mass Effect” to be grossly inaccurate and wonder where you got your information, or if you have even bothered to play the game before condemning it and making false claims.
“The objections to such filth should be simple to understand.
Starting with the disgusting idea that one can "create" their own versions of what people look like, removing warts, moles, and bald spots while enhancing - shall we say - the extended features of the game's characters tends to objectify women, sex, and human relationships. Right? We can all agree on this?”
The idea behind allowing the player to create his or her own character is to make the game more personal to each individual who plays. The player can tweak (to an extent) the aesthetic of the character to his or her personal preference. Should it be written into law that every movie/television/game character be covered in warts, moles and bald spots?
Well a player can choose to cultivate a relationship in the game, the optional subplot is handled with a great deal of restraint and maturity. The characters even deciding to wait to presue a physical relationship, only at the end of the game does anything happen and then it’s no worse then anything on television, in fact it’s a lot tamer then anything in a James Bond movie.
“Then there's the dishonesty behind the game' title. "Mass Effect" sounds like a war game with a deadly virus that is spreading unless the GI-Joes are able to defeat the evil and deadly substance and it's covert war plan. By it's design, kids could ask for it, or for their parents' Best Buy Card to go purchase it with nary a raised eye-brow. Generic, non-descriptive, and relatively harmless.”
Dishonesty? Mass Effect refers to an in game reaction that powers the starships and allows for interstellar travel, there is no attempt at dishonesty. The game case has in right on front an M rating. An M rating means the game is meant for ages 17+ a sizable portion of the market. On the back of the case is again the M rating with a brief description of the content of the game (in Mass Effects case Blood, Language, Partial Nudity, Sexual Themes, Violence). If a parent decides to allow there child to play the game that is there choice, not yours, not the governments. If a parent doesn’t bother to check the ESRB rating before purchasing that is their fault, not the developers.
“Now if I have trouble with my son taking his James Bond 007 games a little too emotionally, imagine the powerful effect that hormones add to the mix when the player's own character is copulating like jack rabbits with super-models, actresses, and anyone else they can spend the patience to create, name, and "put into play."
I hear the libertarian Ron Paul's answer already, "Government has no business censoring freedom of expression." Figures, he's a libertarian.”
Well James Bond is notorious for objectifying women in whatever medium, that is your choice. If you have a problem with Mass Effect fine, don’t let your kid play it, but that’s where it ends. Government has no business regulating something as tame as what’s found in Mass Effect.
“In the race for President there has been a lot of discussion about faith and it's impact on the lives of the individual candidate. Some pretty inane ones like Carl Cameron's less lucid moment this past week when he posed the inquiry about marital submission to Governor Mike Huckabee.
Yet here's a question that deserves to be asked, and in all likelihood will not be: "How much moral judgement should the President push into legislative issues that are likely to severely damage our children's innocence, function, and capability?"
I hear the nay-sayers claiming I'm being the wild and crazed Bible thumper I've always been - but its a worthwhile question isn't it?”
Would you have government regulate movies, television and literature? If so to what extent?
Speaking of the Bible, would you regulate or censor it? How many acts of violence against others have been inspired by the Bible? Most famously Leviticus 20:13 reads “If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman both of them must be put to death; their blood is on their own heads.”. How many acts of violence have been committed against homosexuals based on this verse or others like it? Should the government be allowed to censor and regulate Holy Books? If not why?
“If a pre-teen, teen, young adult, or adult male plays such a game in which the women DO submit without choice, are made to appear as Barbie streetwalkers, and perform whatever act can be imagined, what's to stop that same male from assuming that the women in his "other world" shouldn't be forced to do the same.
We now know because of the lengthy track record of serial killer after another that addictive use of pornography was prevalent in case after case - long before the switch got flipped and what their masturbatory imaginations have given into became what they were forcing real live human beings to do.”
What’s to stop them? Common Sense, the realization that they are playing a game that is not intended to be a reflection of reality.
Well your serial killer reference is accurate, how many people view porn? How many of them go on to become serial killers? Is porn addiction the cause of there violence or a symptom of some deeper problem? Is the Bible the cause of abortion clinic bombings/shootings? Did the Bible cause Paul Jennings Hill to murder Dr. John Britton? Video Games are an easy target for those unwilling to look closer at the problems society faces. If one where to censure video games on the grounds that they can have a potential negative impact on a tiny fraction of the population then one must also allow for the censure of the Bible which itself has been the inspiration for indefensible acts of violence.
“And because of the digital chip age in which we live - "Mass Effect" can be customized to sodomize whatever, whoever, however, the game player wishes.
With it's "over the net" capabilities virtual orgasmic rape is just the push of a button away. “
Sodomy? Further proof that you have not played the game or viewed the material in question. No where in the game is sodomy depicted. What is present wouldn’t warrant anything higher then a PG-13 rating at the absolute most if where in a movie.
It’s a pity that you seem dead set against this game, one which it is safe to assume you have not bothered to play or even do any serious research about. Instead you see fit to make an issue of something unworthy of serious attention. That you feel this should be an issue of national importance is telling. If a country can censor one form of expression what is to stop it from censoring others? If one is willing to censor Video Games, then why not TV, Film, Literature? Why not the news? The Internet?
It is time for the world to wake up. Video Games are no longer solely the realm of children. It now includes, indeed is chiefly, made of teens and adults. As such the material produced will reflect the taste of its audience.
Sincerely
Jimbo
how can we possible ever end the stigma and educate parents if we allow misinformation to be spread like this?
the point is , if you look, before gameers posted, people had replied in support of the article. yeah, dont believe everything you read, but some people do. thats the problem. the uneduacated and naieve will lap it up and our problems continue.
heres another phrase. mud sticks.
Well, with the Rep and the bathroom 'incident' we could assume that.
The only time to REALLY worry is when this guy is as popular as Oprah because "she has the power to destroy entire industries with a mere utterence". As it stands, he's a nobody until he started saying bad things about the Vidya and Ron Paul. THat's it. Look at the blog. VERY few people agree with his views. Not even non gamers want anything to do with him. Heck, the comments article even had a concerened parent who was at first shoked at the blog becaus she couldn't believe what the game contents according to him, but after she had done research and getting info from her son, even she's questioning him.
Besides, Bioware suing this guy will only make things worse. It'll only make Bioware look like the bad guy, and it would look like they were trying to censor his views. And as we all know, everyone believes the victim more.
how would they look like the bad guy? He is blatantly lieing about the game, he's not just spouting some popular yet untrue belief (like GTA awards the killing of cops) but flat out BS! The libel and slander laws were made for just this reason. I don't see how the media can defend the other guys claims when they are so horrendously false (plus the media will know that if they lie as well they are just as likely (if not more so) to be sued for slander as well). Although this is assuming the media even picks up on this small potatoes bit of news.
This doofus made a fool of himself, so he should be thankful if it stays down.
'over the net orgasmic rape'
is making bioware look bad.
and yeah, but were do you draw the line, do you say to 100 small fry journalists, its ok if you spout this crap because you dont have many readers?
i mean if you add them all up its a LOT of misinformation thats being spread.
if we dont tackle it everywhere then we mayaswell not bother at all. Besides how can you justifiably attack ppl like oprah (say she was spouting it) and justify how you havent ever defended games to anyone else making the same points.
Oprah herself could have heard it from a journalist who heard it from a journalist who heard it from a site like this.
nip it in the bud, just my Opinion.
To paraphrase one of the skits on Family Guy:
"Oh, sorry Jack, but you need 100 IQ points to live."
@Trevor Mcgee:
Yeah, how dare you disagree with him!
@Zen:
Yeah it's called lying, sadly very effective.
@Demontestament:
You obviously don't have the 'orgasmic rape' mod installed on the game... Maybe he can hook you up with it?
@Blaine:
Got the day marked already on my 2028 calendar.
@Al:
I just wonder if Austin and Captain Fail-Hard got together and had a pow-wow or something?
Actually it was, "you needed 100 tickets to live" it was supposed to be like chucky cheese's (gone horrbily wrong)
According to Mr. M. we can't possibly expect a parent to keep an eye on what the kiddies watch/buy/do. We have to scour the world for TnA lest a young un see it and grow up to write rather lurid articles for far right conservative publications.
That was a great fucking rebuttal, no doubt.
You forget. Fox won a Lawsuit that they have a right to lie.
If you don't build a relationship with the other characters you don't even get the chance to have the little sex scene, if you even can call it that. It is so goddamn tame I wanted to puke reading this guys bullshit. The focus of the game is not trying to have sex, it is to save everyone and everything from total annihilation. I think we can all agree that is something good? Or do you wish for total annihilation?
Why are these people so afraid of video games? Mass Effect is nothing to worry about and yet these retards are going insane trying to have them regulated. There is no reason to regulate video games in any way. When and if XXX Games are made, then they should be treated the same as XXX pornography. Mass Effect is not XXX porn. It is more like PG-13. That said I think my 10 year old nephew could handle it. Look at the movies they let kids into!
This is just touching on the stupidity of this guy. Why has no-one made a fuss about God of War? It is full breasts shown, and sex on a bed with moaning and orgasm, not in view, but heard. You watch some pots shake and fall down, and they get tons of health from these two slave ho's. What am I missing? Why Mass Effect?
do you have a link?
The bottom line is that Bioware probably isn't really damaged by this. The number of people who would have bought Mass Effect if not for this article is probably pretty small; people who are on the fence about buying it probably wouldn't be swayed by a political blog. The exception is if this article is cited by a politician as a reason for investigating Bioware or threatening legislation because of Bioware's highly successful 'virtual orgasmic rape simulator.' Then this has become damaging to Bioware's trade.
I can see Bioware not caring too much about this as long as it's not picked up by anyone who actually matters - the government or investors. If either of those groups starts complaining because they heard that Bioware sells porn to children, according to Kevin McCollough, then Bioware can act.
In a world where rockstar sues over parody posters is it really that hard to believe that bioware may sue over this? (Granted they are different companies but the question here isn't whether they can sue them (morally or legally) it's whether they should sue them (from a business point of view).
And they are Canadian, so they are probably looking at us Yanks why sipping a Molson and thinking, "What a bunch of ****ing idiots, eh?"
Mr. McCullough,
You sir have lied rather egregiously about Mass Effect in your article. I'm not sure why you felt the need to do so but I've found that when people get into the "protect the children" mode they tend to stop using their heads.
As a journalist you have a responsibility to make sure what you wrote is accurate and this is anything but. You either simplly didn't do the research or you didn't care to. Either way that makes you a liar by definition.
Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
I thought I'd post that bit from the Constitution so that you'd remember that the government cannot regulate games in the means you seem to want them to. That would be patently unconstitutional and I think you know that.
We don't need nanny state laws like you seem to want when there are so many other problems that need attention, like energy and health care.
I'll say it again. You sir are a liar and I'm ashamed to call myself a conservative after reading your diatribe.
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I think I got my point across nicely
The fact that the right wing-nuts have to make up their own controversy in order to get any attention for themselves just proves how pointless most of their ramblings really are. They rail and moan about the "liberal media", then turn around and create an entirely fabricated story as evidence of an issue that does not exist.
As an American citizen and registered voter, I know which candidates won't be getting my vote in this or any foreseeable election!
"There is no reason to regulate video games in any way. When and if XXX Games are made, then they should be treated the same as XXX pornography."
They do. They have, they do, and they will continue to do so. Clearly you've never seen a Japanese H-game. But I'm pretty sure America has had them too.
Benji:
I agree that Bioware will probably remain unaffected by this. Mass Effect has gotten great reviews, praise from all over, and the gaming community sure loves it. The people who it matters to already own it, have played it, or will own it at some point, regardless of this man's article. However, it's still lies, and while they may not go so far as to sue the man (or the company he works for), I wouldn't be surprised if they asked for the removal of the article, or a retraction, or something. Besides, this seems like the sort of thing Hillary would jump all over given the chance.
His website is muscleheadrevolution.com
but he is clearly a bone-head. That's bone, not muscle. You can tell by the lack of hair.
He looks a lot like Rob Courdrey from the daily show...
Yah, porn games exist in the US, but they are pretty rare, and they don't come out on consoles. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo don't like to be associated with them, at least in the US I guess. (I believe some H-games in Japan manage to come out on consoles.)
I believe most of them are only sold online for the PC, and they don't seem to be a big industry in the US.
Where can I get a copy of this ME with such varied options for virtual sodomy? :D
ldonyo, actually there were side boobs visible in all for variations of the game romances. Side boobs automatically make the game AO. >.>
The most realistic sex acts ever conceived......What a complete fucking retard. You don't even get to see any intercourse and on top of that the scene is quite tasteful. As well as being uninformed this moron seems to think sex is evil. Well lets just all stop having sex and end the human race, eh? Why is it sex is such a big deal in games? Games aren't exclusively for kids. Adult games naturally want games which deal with and depict adult subjects. Duh.
People like him shouldn't be allowed to use the Internet, period.
What.
I...I mean, I'm not even angry about this.
I'm just...
Hahahaha.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This is the most fucking funny thing I've ever read. Seriously, wow. This is like claiming a pencil is the most deadly weapon ever created.
Actually wasn't it only 10? But yeah, that's what I was referring to, lol. (Now watch it either air on FOX or Cartoon Network in the next 12 hours... :P)
:D
~Otaku-Man
But I guess I'll just have to stick to my machine gun simulator of a Wii.
Where was this guy complaining and calling for such "trash" being targeted to kids to be put in "adult" establishments when any game like Dead or Alive or Rumble Roses was being released?
So you have one little kissy scene in a RPG game and that makes it trash.....yet you have games where its mostly just "lets watch the eyecandy" and they don't get any flack? This guy just felt like complaing for the sake of complaining.
http://kevinmccullough.townhall.com/blog/g/ad4fece3-3a1e-42bd-8546-29559...
Oh look, he took the worst example he could find and used that to stereotype gamers as a whole. Who could possibly see that strategdy coming?
You know, I could have sworn Social Darwinism tried that out about a hundred years ago when they filled the skulls of white people with marbles and compared it to the skulls of mentally disabled black people so they could feel better about themselves for paying black people less.
History repeats itself. The hatred may change but politicians are crocs. They evolved early to the point of asshole perfection and haven't changed since.
You can't deal with those people at all. if they are blatantly lying, they won't listen to your outrage. They'll just go one doing what they do, or at least, find the WORSE negative criticism and use it against you to invalidate your opinions.
Just like Furries.
Funny thing is, I've got a boss named Kevin McCullough - no relation. My boss is pretty cool. This douche, on the other hand, needs to learn how to FACT CHECK.
Subject: You have forfeited your honor as a journalist.
Kevin McCullough,
You have publicly, and falsely, accused a party of promoting rape porn. In your words:
"And because of the digital chip age in which we live - 'Mass Effect' can be customized to sodomize whatever, whoever, however, the game player wishes.
With it's 'over the net' capabilities virtual orgasmic rape is just the push of a button away."
All of the above, as you've seen — but failed to admit — is false.
Judging by your latest blog entry, I don't think you quite understand what it means to make that kind of false accusation.
It isn't just that it's libel — which it quite clearly is.
You see, Kevin, journalists have a responsibility to speak the truth. It's what they're trusted to do. It's what honor — simple, human honor — binds them to do.
And when they fail in that responsibility, as you have, when they break that trust, as you have, then they do one of two things. They apologize, retract, and make amends, or they fail again — fail to admit when they're wrong — and become known as liars for the rest of their careers.
Ten falsehoods in one short article, Kevin? Ten? That's not just dishonesty; that's impressive. Impressive enough that Michael Moore would stand up and salute.
Now, maybe you didn't mean to lie. Maybe you just built the article on hearsay, and built on that with your own imagination — but how much better is that, really? For a journalist, I mean. Are we talking about dishonesty or incompetence here? Which is it?
And you know what's worse? When you had a chance to own up and admit it to it all, what did you do? You called names, and printed more falsehoods. "Guy on guy," Kevin? No. False. Again.
You've dishonored yourself. You've dishonored this site. You've dishonored the Republican party. And, if the Ninth Commandment has anything to say about it, you've gone against God as well.
I will give you this: You've gotten Republicans and Democrats to agree on something. And that, well, that's impressive too.
http://minx.cc/?post=252018
Jokes aside, i don't know what this guy was thinking. Or if he were thinking at all. I'm Christian (only on paper though, i'm not really a believer), and if i'm not misinformed, i think one of the seven deadly sins is lying? So yeah, he's going to hell.
You might be thinking of the Ninth Commandment: "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."
I think this scene is just a soft and elegant (and perhaps even poetic) way to "discuss" an issue lika omosexual love.
And that's a mature way of thinking if compared to the majority of videogames out there.
Sci-fi is about "ideas" and "great messages", so Mass Effect seems to fit perfectly.
Could you possibly get an interview with this guy and call him on his bullshit? This guy created an entirely different version of Mass Effect in his head and is attempting to use this false image of the game to attack video games as a whole. Please tell me you plan to contact him and get his response to being totally and completely full of shit. I really want to see what nonsense he'll try and make up to get out of the hole he dug himself into.
Its idiots like him that hate sex with such lust that has made humanity not mature on issues revolving around sex.
~Trevor McGee
Looked at realistically, you can make a handfull of fairly ugly main characters of either sex. You then have a choise between one human character of the opposite gender or a unisex alien. The "sex" is sutible for a prime time tv drama.
He is so wrong he just makes me want to ask him if his god promotes lying. I know that most peoples' gods looks down on lying, but it seems he must worship a god who really, really likes lying.
But nit-picking aside.
It's easy for us to blow this guy off. We've grown up seeing worse than this all over the TV. While religious purists usually don't even own TVs. (After seeing the up coming line up of reality TV shows, I'm starting to come around to their way of thinking. Farmer Needs a Bride anyone?) So for them, this IS pornographic. But this IS the land of the FREE. We can do whatever we want and these games are labeled with an age rating. If parents are buying it for their kids, that's a lack of parental responsibility and not the fault of the game publisher. Should we go after gun manufacturers because some drunk loser left his pistol out where his five year old could get to it? If we stopped everyone who made something people found offensive then society as we know it would grind to a halt. Frankly because I can point to anything, anywhere, at any time, and there will be someone out there offended by it.
Unfortunately nothing anyone says would matter to a person like this. There are far too many people in the world that jump to a conclusion and take it as a personal insult if someone disagrees. In a massive complex world made up of billions of miles and billions of people, it's utterly illogical to be closed off by new ideas and opinions. Keep your minds open and don't let ego stop you from coming to terms with new ideas and concepts otherwise we fall into the same pit as political and religious extremists... and Jack Thomson.
The game got a 12+ age rating (as in 'suitable for most children) from the BBFC. The same organization that is trying to leverage the UK high court to super-doubleplus-ban Manhunt 2, so they're not exactly an ultra-liberal establishment.
Mass Effect is less raunchy than Star Trek. There, I said it. There was an episode of Enterprise that involved a vulcan hot oil massage. THAT showed more skin than the 10-second scene (out of a 20+ hour game) in Mass Effect.
Bioware must be laughing their arses off here, because, honestly, they could never have predicted the amazing, world-shattering controversy this incredibly mild (again, 10 second!) scene would generate. And of course, they've got nothing to defend, as they've done nothing to offend. Most of the controversy is the chinese whispers effect, each conservative news-source somehow blowing the story up further and further from the truth.
Spectacular, insane, hilarious.
http://kevinmccullough.townhall.com/blog
not "we is right" sorry.
(from his blog, linked to by Bill"
Wow.
I'm no expert on the matter, but isn't it bad form in an argument to resort to name-calling and invoking the almighty just to further one's personal agenda?
then again, what else can we expect of the Neo-Cons. They seem to think intelligent discord is balsphemous.
If anything, Kevin's blog - let's just call it what it is, QQ'ing - reflects more on how little he knows about gamer subculture.
His book spouts the same rhetoric. He's pretty much preaching to the choir in bot the site and his publications - he probably didn't expect to piss off so many people off this time around, though.
Faith is an admirable thing, to be sure, but not when it's used as a reason to ignore everything you don't agree with. The point being, the more you guys email him to point out his many obvious mistakes, the more it will reinforce his own notions that he is right but has to be persecuted for his beliefs.
i bet that e-mail he posted was just the first one he recieved from a gamer with fast typing skills and he just didn't read anything else.
I know that people are like assholes, everyone has one, but does this guy really have to show it off so prominately?
What makes you think they didn't raspberry his book already? The only guys who gave it 4's and 5's appear to be in the same bandwagon as him.
The other commenters generally blasted him for showing himself to be a rightwing nutcase - they thought of the book as nothing more than NeoCon rant.
Sorry for the double-post.
Anyway, one commenter called his published work an "Anne Coulter Light"
I think the description fits his gamer griefing article perfectly.
Sounds to me like it's not the gamers who have an unhealthy obsession with sex, after all, they aren't thinking up stuff to 'add' to the video, Mr McCullough is.
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It is satire, right?
Somebody? ...anybody???
Err, no.
Feel free to *head-desk* with the rest of us.
Something to the effect of
"While this author feels free to write reviews about games he has not played I feel free to review his books without reading them. Based on his game reviews I feel confident that this book makes the Kama Sutra seem tame enough to be a children's book, as well as this book containing step by step instructions on how to sacrifice aforementioned children to his dark lord SAao'uiahs'dfWEA-MaBorgen. This book also contains a complete lexicon to help prevent the mispronunciation of the previously mentioned dark lords name, since he really dislikes it when people get it wrong.
This review may or may not be completely false and only expresses the opinions of someone who has not read this book in a satirical way, however based on his other writings I have read I can recommend in good faith that you never read any of this mans work unless you are a right-wing fanatic who needs other, more fanatical right-wingers to do your thinking for you.
I do not stand by the statements made in the first paragraph and it's your own fault if you believe them and find out that they're wrong."
Or if someone has a throw away account with Amazon already made they can feel free to copy/paste that as a review if they want to.
Also, I do believe someone must've sent him some Japanese titles relabeled as Mass Effect if he actually believes the crap he's spewing and claims to have played Mass Effect. There is just no other logical explanation for his behavior otherwise, and I'd like to believe that JT's the only person on this level of insanity, though I fully admit that this guy may crush my belief and be proof that more than one person in the world can exist at the same time at this level of insanity.
"An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind." - Mohanda Gandhi
We've done a pretty good job exposing Kevin for being the neo-conservative, slanderous, faux-reporter that he is already.
No need for us to end up proving his point by slandering one of his works...as tempting as it is...
He is doing a radio show soon and this is his main topic. It says 2-4 p.m. I am guessing eastern time (I'm atlantic so it would be an hour from now)
We need some people to make him realize the mistake he's made on the air.
He quite literally looks like a dick
I want to know how the show goes and I hope dennis or a correspondent of GP has their eye on this.
To the guys thinking of calling him, be very careful.
From the way Kev addresses us, he's doing all he can to ensure that the gamers who call are truly pissed off. He's going to try to represent us with the worst we can offer with intentional provocation.
He plans to use us for his propaganda. The thing is - will we let that happen?
Don't fall into the trap.
Yeah, but what about the humor of the post. It's so over the top and mentions lack of facts multiple times that it's not going at an eye for an eye, more like a laughing in his face for an eye.
Enough people laughing may cause his eyes to pop out though so I guess we should restrain ourselves for his sake anyways.
PLEASE .. gp please link it.
The internet allowed him to make his case then everyone else to make their case uninterrupted. anyone can read through the comments and see a real opposing view. After seeing Adam Sessler make a fool out of himself against Jack Thompson I have no inclination to play on a feild as uneven as Talk Radio.
Law of Poe?
Perhaps. But then again it isn't always that way.*remembers Hal Turner fondly, despite the fact he never got his paycheck*
He is sadly in the terminal stages of chronic idiocy.
Let's stop prodding the puss-filled sores lest we get some on us and catch the same disease.
Kevin,
I was your second caller today who mentioned the study about game sales to minors. Here is a link the the Federal Trade Commission report on game sales showing a drop from 85% of M rated games getting into kids hands in 2000 to 42% in 2005. Showing 15% weren't able to in 2000 and 60% weren't able to in 2005, that's a drop of 400%. The report goes on to spank the industry on some other issues, but this was the main focus of the investigation.
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2006/03/videogameshop.shtm
the pertinent section from the study...
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The undercover shop saw a decrease in the number of M-Rated (for “Mature”) video games sold to unaccompanied children. Video games rated “M” by the ESRB contain content appropriate for those 17 and older. Forty-two percent of the secret shoppers – children between the ages of 13 and 16 – who attempted to buy an M-rated video game without a parent were able to purchase one. In the 2003 shop, 69 percent of the shoppers were able to buy one. National sellers were much more likely to restrict sales of M-rated games. Only 35 percent of the secret shoppers were able to purchase such games there. Regional or local sellers sold M-rated games to the shoppers more frequently – 63 percent of the time. The shop also marked other improvements by retailers, compared with results from the previous undercover shops by the FTC.
Nationwide Undercover Survey Results:
Was the shopper able to buy the M-rated video game? (Percent "Yes")
2000 - 85%
2001 - 78%
2003 - 69%
2005 - 42%
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Now let's see if he posts it or not.
He tries to say that his column wasn't about mass effect but about the future. Which says to me that he is a piss poor writer.
If we followed his logic, then wouldn't that mean he doesn't have any solid grounding for calling Mss Effect's love scene obscene, given that it's also "up to interpretation?"
Sounds like he's just waching his hands of his statements.
I imagine Kevin did not expect to piss off so many people this time around.