
The idea of parents and kids bonding over video games seems like a no-brainer to us.
MSNBC examines the issue in conversation with parents as well as a Seattle-based pediatrician. Brian Albright, father of 12-year-old Caleb, told MSNBC:
It is a shame that parents don't see this as an opportunity for bonding, communication and supervision. Clearly, boundaries need to be set, but there are way more positives than negatives... Games where you’re an actual soldier in combat I have trouble with. I find that it’s more like a numbing effect to the harsh realities of war.
Commenting on Albright's approach, pediatrician Don Shifrin said:
What he’s doing is basically the essence of parenting, which is to say, find a way to have teachable moments. You could have the same sorts of discussions about music lyrics, and you could have the same sorts of discussions about Jamie-Lynn Spears, or drinking on ‘Friday Night Lights.’
These are electronic devices that we’re going to have to learn to live with, rather than avoid. It’s much the same way that we talk about guns in America... we’re going to have to learn to live in a society with guns, and with violence. It’s the same way with video games. It’s not something that parents can avoid, and if they do the youngsters will find them anyway.
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Anyway, as David Walsh said, "watch what your kids watch, play what your kids play".
i suspect the reasons their mentioned alongside guns and violence, is because many games these days contain guns and violence.
Maybe. Anyway, I prefer this speech than the "games cause violence" one, by far.
@ Monkeythumbs :
It's not that surprising, actually. Most newspapers and magazines in mainstream media now have a "games editor" or sort of, who is a gamer himself (herself) and has a unique opportunity to spread another message about video games. But that doesn't prevent the same magazines' editors from other sections to blame games from time to time.
I also don't understand the whole "games make you anti-social" arguments either. Growing up, gaming was a family affair. My brothers and sisters and I would always play games together. At school, gaming was a strong bonding interest between me and my friends.
I think that the problem that people have when it comes to "anti-social" behavior, is that they only see the kid in front of the screen. They don't see the vast network of people communicating around the game.
As for the discussion of guns and violence (from the article):
Games make a perfect sounding board to start discussions with your kids about these topics. So I think that is a welcome advancement.
I find it amusing that some people take the idea that they can/should play video games with their children as some sort of revelation, instead of viewing it as part of just, well, being a parent.
As far as his comment on the guns and violence issue, I believe that if his intent is to support the claims of the first quote, he would be correct in stating that as parents, parents must support good habits in gaming. This would be in attest to the fact that parents shouldn't be playing Teen and Mature games with young kids, but if you had an other gamer in the house it wouldn't hurt to not play a few rounds of Halo with him, but it might be good to get in some Wii Sports action as well.
Again, it is nice to see a balanced view from an individual and professional. Not something we see too often.
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I disagreeGames where you’re an actual soldier in combat I have trouble with. I find that it’s more like a numbing effect to the harsh realities of war.
with this part. The numbing seems to come from the idea that you are taking part in mass murdering enemy soldier. Well while playing Call of Duty 4 you live through the horror of war in a way no other media would have made me think about the horror of nuclear warfare and modern weapons...
In a movie you know that the hero will prevail and save the day. there is a very different feeling when you know that it is you that can make a difference, not some scripted actor, and that you can fail.
Researchers are focusing on the negative impact but my question would what is the impact of contextualized violent games. where the vilence has a sense and you are seeing it's consequences, not just kill X NPC.
You know what I found?
It made a very good opportunity to give my son a good History lesson that he enjoyed, and to further watch some documentaries on TV, particularly some of the old 'Victory at Air/Land/Sea' series that does a good job of showing the feel and climate back then. It was also a good time to explain how many people a real war can hurt and what all can happen...
Maybe the lack of educational opportunity wasn't due to the game, but due to the parent, eh?
Some of these kids REALLY love video games, so why not nurture their interest in them instead of shunning it? Shunning a kids interest (provided its a harmless interest like video games) only creates unnecessary conflict within a family. This really isn't something that should be a constant source of argument. When you sign up for parenthood you do not sign up to make your kid a little version of what you wanted to be when you were a kid, you have to take their interests and support them in whatever they do, and if they are different then what you ideally imagined your kids would be like then you have to just let them be themselves. Don't try to make your kids something they are not just because "it was that way when I was a kid" or because you feel it should be that way just because.
Those comments are made in the sense that guns and violence are a part of society. It is counter intuitive to try to shield your child from all things that might bring that topic up.
Yes, parents should game with kids. Too many parents see any time they spend with their kids as wasted time. I know my parents wouldn't spend more then 20 seconds looking at anything on the screen with me, and that was just to make sure that I wasn't playing or watching anything violent (like Transformers, which was too violent for me at 15 years old because it had guns in it).
Then you have the parents that think it is a lazy activity where you don't get a lot of fresh air. And when you compare it to playing sports at a park, it is. But you can't constantly complain that video gamers are turning your kids into vegetables if you don't try to make the best of the situation. Kids only look unsociable because there is no one around for them to play with. Play some Mario Kart with your kids...it's today's version of tossing the ol' pigskin.
The answer is obvious, it's yes :).
That's what I'll do if have kids one day ;).
It occurs to me it's probably the same situation for many families today.
Oh, and I'll put them in Japanese school so they can play those Japan-only imports and actually understand the story and stuff.
I understand what you're saying, but...
My husband and I work around 80 hours a week - EACH. Before I remarried, I was a single parent for many, many years. I didn't then, and don't now, have a lot of time for a lot of things, but I have always made time for my kids and their interests. To be perfectly honest, video games have given me an "easy out" for time with them when time has been hard to come by. It's a pastime that they are passionate about that we can enjoy together, even if I only watch them play, and do it at home at our leisure.
As for the person who claimed that parents widen the technology gap by saying "I'm too old for that" because the games intimidate them, well, there are lots of games my kids - especially my sons - play that I wouldn't think of trying. BUT that doesn't mean that I don't sit and watch them play and take it as an opportunity to talk to them and have fun with them. I watched my oldest play Silent Hill 2 quite intently, even though I never actually played myself. When a show on G4 did their "Scariest Games Ever" program, I sat there and was able to say "Silent Hill 2 is going to get #1." And it did. I was rather proud of predicting that.
Then again, she also takes over my 360 frequently, if only to play Pac-Man or Uno or something on Xbox Live Arcade.
My father stills play a bit, but he only tries to beat his score at Spider Solitaire and Mahjong. My mother used to like to play Age of Empires 2 mostly thanks to the historical content. And she just said that she found Kingdom Hearts interesting.
My uncle (who's a father) is an avid Myst fan and he loves Metal Gear Solid. We often spend one night playing games (on our free time of course).
I do think parents should play games with their children, and I think they should teach their children how to handle a gun, but, I don't think they should teach their children violence- despite living in a society with some violence in it.
No, no it really isn't. No actually, just as there is a huge difference between guns and video game consoles themselves, there should be a huge difference in how talk you about them. Maybe guns and video games are disscussed in the same way across the pond, but I think thats nutty. Just my opinion.
'Grats, you're super. But what you can manage to accomplish with one set of circumstances may be prohibitively difficult for another parent under what's seemingly less arduous circumstances. Everyone has different limits and capabilities.
Im 26 and i play video games with my 6 year old daughter , when its raining out we may sit and play Super Mario Galaxy with her... Im hardly gonna be playing Halo am i ? God i cant take anymore of this game bashing
Good work. Keep it up....
- Good Point "JustChris". I've managed to get my Mom to play SOME games with me. She played Gex 3 when the PSOne was out. When we got a gamecube she'd sit there and play Mario Kart. When we got a PS2 we played Scarface: The World Is Yours. She tried so hard to beat the first level but couldn't. She even played GRAND THEFT AUTO 3!
Most of the time she is very busy. Too busy to play. But she knows why I enjoy games and sees no harm in "M for Mature" games. To quote her "It's just a game."