Finally someone from EA does something right.

@kurisu7885:

lmao. You're right. XD Okay I concede. Go EA! Finally you do some more right in the hope we'll forget all the stuff you F*** up.

Better?

Thankyou so much EA. Its about time someone hit back.

I honestly hope that Fox News is hit HARD by this.

If EA wanted to, they easily have the defamation of character suit given the obvious libel and slander. Though thats only a civil suit rather than criminal... Id like to see Fox make a forced broadcast apology where they say WHY they got it wrong. Lack of research. But, will probably never happen. Live in hope though

fox news is a joke of a news group, they will never be taken seriously by people who can actually think for themselves. its disgusting how much they get away with though.

Can you say "pwned?"

You know, i say that EA should still sue fox and take it to the supreme court. Lets see what they think about fox lying and distorting the truth to the public.

On a side note, apparently fox doesn't wanna talk about the issue. http://kotaku.com/348692/ea-fighting-mad-about-fox-news-but-still-no-cor...

Speaking of Faux, anyone hear about John Gibson's comments on his radio "program" shortly after it came out that Heath Ledger was dead?

Yes.

Finally, someone with enough clout that the media actually has to respond to steps up to the plate and calls them on their B.S.

I can't wait for the response from Fox. Should be fun!!

There's no way that they won't respond in some way...

What I AM curious about is whether or not Martha Whatserface will actually respond to some of the emails that she got from gamers, myself included.

I'm surprised no one is wondering "why". Everyone knows that spots on Fox News are for sale to the highest bidder. So, who bought the hit job on Mass Effect?

This is FOX, they're not going to care.

nightwng2000:

That would only confirm in their eyes that you are a part of the EVIL VIDEO GAME ESTABLISHMENT! Like, the establishment will knock you do.own if you go against them, man! It's a conspiracy. JT WUS RITE OH MAH GAAAAAWWD.

The rest of us would be laughing our asses off. :P

The response if any will likely be that EA threatened legal action over a fair story.

"Do you watch the Fox Network? Do you watch Family Guy? Have you ever seen The OC? Do you think the sexual situations in Mass Effect are any more graphic than scenes routinely aired on those shows? Do you honestly believe that young people have more exposure to Mass Effect than to those prime time shows?"

This argument is valid. When I was younger, before I had my own television, I could be in the living room playing Mario, and my dad would come home from work, kick me off the TV, and turn on a World War 2 movie. Fox shows those, and guess what they hav,e and hint, it's not the Barny happy fun time hour.

@JB

movie sales go down whenever a big title game comes out, so yeah video games are taking people away from the movie and TV industry.

Great to see EA stick up for BioWare, and great to see FN get called out on their BS. TTYL and XD

I'm glad to see the gaming industry finally sticking up for itself. Same goes for the gaming community.

Fox News is PWNED!

Yeah, It is about time. Well past time someone got up and socked it to them, as well as the fact their own shows show off more then the game does. I, myself cannot believe I forgot about Family Guy. It's animated too.

OMG! Its mass marketed to children and teenagers! IT'S A CARTOON!

Just kidding. But you get the point, no? Not EVERYTHING is for children.

- Warren Lewis

Oh, and Welcome back GamerDad! Hope you get better!

- Warren Lewis

@AgnostoTheo

Hey now, EA does a lot right, they just do a hell of a lot more wrong.

Funny. I sent an e-mail yesterday to the Cooper woman saying most of the things EA said. Hopefully, more and more people will be made aware of these terrible generalizations being made by the press.

yea, go EA! im glad fox gets a well witten retaliation for their actions.

For all those that want EA to sue: First of all, a lawsuit will be fought to the bitter end and may look to some on the outside that the big, bad game industry is trying to peddle porn to minors and silencing its critics. Getting a public apology from Fox more or less accomplishes what EA wants, but without the prolonged legal battle and bad PR.
Also, demonstrating that the statements were made maliciously, that they are unreasonable beliefs, and that they do actual harm to EA are all difficult points to prove. It'd be a tough battle, and in the US close calls regarding the legality of statements always are decided in favor of those making the statement. The case exists, but it's not easy.
(Of course, should Fox refuse to apologize when offered refuting evidence, the case might become easier. Who knows...)

A line from this which wasn't quoted was that it's not a legal threat. I rather wish it were, simply because Fox makes a habit of yellow journalism. This goes beyond Mass Effect, and I really want Fox to become afraid of the consequences of reporting falsehoods as fact.

I agree with Benji. Truth is that a good PR strategy looks better to the public then corporate lawsuits.

About time someone authoritative stood up against this stupidity. Good on you EA!

I don't know if American TV has ethical standards (my country does), but if it does, there's an obligation from Fox News to correct the story, even if it just a 10 second prepared statement.

@ 300baud

Exactly what I was thinking. Who owns Fox? What sister companies have links to video games?

wow everyone just ignores gamerdad? no cool. HI GAMERDAD! how are you feeling?

Back to business, Even though I work for a competing game company I'm glad EA took a step in the right direction and if they don't get the response they want i hope they press further.

@ GamerDad

Hi Andrew! Gosh, we really need you over in the UK right now.

In case anybody missed Nightwing's comment about Faux News winning the right to lie, here's the story in full:

http://www.projectcensored.org/Publications/2005/11.html

"Back to business, Even though I work for a competing game company I’m glad EA took a step in the right direction and if they don’t get the response they want i hope they press further"

Agreed. While I work for an EA competator as well, it brought me and my office great joy to see them stand up to slander like this. It is about time that someone decided not to lay back and take it as the "new medium" and fight back for our rights not only as gamers, but as game developers, reviewers, and the industry in general. I know that if I had met one of these Fox people on the street, and they called me a "pornography peddler" that would be grounds for a solid punch in the mouth.

Fox Noise isn't fair and balanced like they say. Here a few videos proving my point:
Employees expose Fox News Distortions
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9E-5KivgwO4
Fox News Admits Bias:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mZFZ_w_oXXc
Rupert Murdoch of Fox News Admits Manipulating the News for Agenda:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0K2pLo8JV5Y
This is why I stick to either network news, CNN, or MSNBC. Fox News is garbage, plain and simple.

As much as I dislike EA for it's practices, I applaud it for standing up to the spinsters in the news rooms.

it's about time someone corrected the mainstream media when they mess up in a way that will reach more people.

I think EA just made up for about a decade of bad moves.

I have to say, EA has earned a good bit of respect from me now. More studios need to take the media to task when they outright lie.

I am simply stunned that, by some cruel cosmic trick of the universe, I am pulling for EA.

Kudos to the CEO of EA!

EA's got the bucks to throw down against Fox, now let's see if they've got the balls.

Knowing media types, Fox's likely response will be to hem, haw, and hope people get bored until the threat goes away.

@MacBoy:

Actually, ignoring it might not be a bad thing. The comments that they're making are obviously false and could be considered defamatory and/or slanderous. If they don't offer a retraction, then EA might sue them. That would be a real shot in the arm for the VG industry if they sued for slander and WON.

@ MacBoy

Sadly, they will probably try to "spin" it (I still call BS on that whole "no spin" crap they talk about..they must keep the whole building rotating so they don't notice how bad it is) and try to make it look like either we are fighting to keep porn in kids hands, or as a bunch of kids throwing a fit. They will NEVER give an apology or even admit that they lied. Sad but probably true.

If you haven't see it yet, many gamers are voicing their outrage in the review section of her book on amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1599211793/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

It's only fair. She "reviews" a game without ever playing it (or doing any form of research on it), and so we "review" her book without reading it.

I haven't posted anything on Cooper's books on Amazon and I don't intend to. If I were a leader in the gaming community I'd probably say somethign publically about making a good example and how it's not the best idea.

But I'm not a leader, and just another of the rank and file... and I find those "reviews" hilarious.

More graphic in the sex scenes than Family Guy? Not even close. No show on TV has more sexual references than Family Guy. None.

Faux, you just got SERVED!

its ON!

Someone ping me when there is an actual response to this letter by Fox News. Given their record thus far I don't expect anything intelligent out of them.

Oh, and I just started playing Mass Effect myself. It is one thick piece of "Space Opera" (and I mean that in a loving way). I would expect any "sex crazed teenage boy" to have fallen asleep hours before the sex scene occurs.

As to the game having negative female stereotypes, I seriously wounder what game this woman was thinking of. Thus far all the female characters I have run into are strong, intelligent and skilled in their professions. The female human who is in my party has earned my respect for single handedly comforting a man who's wife had died in the line of service. If anything I would accuse this game of bening too positive in it's depictions of women thus far! Come on, we can be slime balls too!

While spamming the reviews for Cooper Lawrence's book is immature, it's worth noting that many reviewers who don't have an axe to grind because of her gamer baiting also don't seem to like the book. Reviews rated "helpful" have been universally negative and given her one or two stars, and practically nobody has given her a positive rating. I don't think Cooper Lawrence is in any danger of becoming too popular with the general public.

Incidentally, the tags are kind of hilarious albeit also very appropriate: ignorant, hypocrite, bigot, hack, garbage...

On another note, it's been suggested that EA should go to one of the competitor networks in order to get a story aired about Fox's false statements. The problem is this will only allow Fox to play the "we're being persecuted by the liberal media" card again, and Fox viewers generally aren't going to be curious or discerning enough to figure out the truth. And if CNN or MSNBC wanted to do a story on Fox's journalistic lapses, they'd have thousands of better examples to pick from.

I too am a bit disappointed with the "This is not a legal threat," line. Kind of takes the teeth out of the whole argument. Considering you've got people like JT suing game companies left and right for any real or imagined transgression, it's high time the game companies responded in kind. I've always agreed with Yuki on that.

By saying that, it takes the pressure off Fox to issue an apology. So don't hold your breath expecting one. Why should they if they know there'll be no consequence? Even if there's no chance of it ever going to court, it would show that EA would be willing to fight if it came down to it. In effect it's like saying, "Please don't say any more mean things about our games Mr. Big News Corporation."

They didn't even have to threaten to sue. They could have just left that line out of the letter and left it ambiguous. It still would have made them think twice.

I do hope, though, that if Bioware themselves and more companies speak out, eventually the pressure will get to Fox and they'll issue a retraction just as we were able to do it to Kevin McCullough on a smaller scale. EA's rebuttal was a good start, even if they wimped-out at the last minute by not threatening to back up their actions.

@Grifter

They are all full of BS. I thinkly, largly due to Fox being unabashed about it and being rewarded with ratings, but none should be viewed favorably. If it's something I'm interested in, I have to go with a wide range of reports to get any idea of the real story.

If you take a single story, and really compare several news sources, you'll notice distinct differences in each of them. Each network tends edit things to fit their angle, each trying to make the news seem more interesting for whatever target demographic they are looking for.

Whenever a pundit is allowed to do a reporters job, just assume from the get go that it is utter crap. Network doesn't matter there.

I see the scene:

GP members: You actually do something good?
Jeff Brown (imitating Jack Sparrow): We do that alot, but you peoples are always surprised.

Jokes aside, it's a very good move from EA to seek a public apology.

NW2K, It's too bad they don't sue right now, but I do really think that it's a good move. Because if Fox doesn't apologize and that EA sues afterwards, Fox won't be able to play victim since EA can prove they asked them beforehand. And if they DO apologize (which I can doubt considering all you said about Fox), they'll lose a LOT of credibility among their viewers AND they'll probably understand that sensationalism doesn't pay on a news network. So in either way (except if I overlook something), it's a win-win scenario.

I DO think that giving bad reviews on that book based on that experience makes us just as hypocritical as the others. Fighting libel with libel won't go anywhere. On the other hand, I found some GENUINE reviews that shows their dislike of the book.

Spot on for EA, kudos.

Thanks for covering this GP

GJ EA! Fox News has to realize that researching before blabbing is probably a better option

@Ethan

WOO!

im psyched!

anyway... back on subject

I still don't have much respect for EA because of how they buy good developers and turn them into shit. Or how they put ads in most of their games. Or how they're ripping off TF2 with Battlefield Heroes. Or how they're just greedy fucks.

This is something that I can get behind. You have an award winning game, one which does not just cater to lowest denominator by having the blood and gears (Geth) flying all over the place. It has good characterization, nice plot, and a brief love scene that I have stated from day one could have made it on network TV without editing (however, if Fox ever aired the clip, you can bet your bottom dollar that 50% of the screen would be pixilated in order to make you think you were missing out on something hot).

I don't want to drag Family Guy into the mud because I really like that show, but I think a quick montage of contributing to the deliquency of minors (I am being nice about this one), incestual themes (pop up occasionally), sexual slave trade (Quagmire), and general perversity (too numerous to count) in what Fox would describe (if they didn't run it) as "a cartoon marketed to children." In reality it is a pretty funny animated show for adults.

I think the main thing is that a number of the news outlets are starting to find out gamers aren't the nerds they used to pick on in school. They are now much more then that. Things like "constituants," "voters," and "consumers." When you insult a political opponent, you generally insult some of your viewers, but a third will agree with you, a third is so stupid they will accept whatever you say, and a third will violently disagree with you but keep watching to see what esle you might say that they disagree with.

However, now, you enanger people who don't watch your show, you have made no advertising dollars from us. And in general, we can make things happen. We can logically argue you on points. We can submit evidense. We can discuss this with your advertisers. You start loosing viewers and advertising dollars by saying the stupid stuff, and hopfully you'll start learning from your mistakes and realize that more of the population is playing games then ever before.

If they keep this up I might just have to like EA.

Damn, Amazon already erased all "reviews" from Cooper´s book. I wanted to copy them, they were pure gold.

I have to congradulate EA on this one. It's about time sombody started sticking up for their game and fighting back against all this crap Fox News pulls.

-Auto

Wat EA is saying is. we know you are losing audience and are figting us to retain what you have but it we are watching you and we won't give ou an easy target so you might as well change your strategy.

In the words of Early Cuyler.....

Hot damn, baby! WHOO!

Finally, someone in the industry who isn't afraid to stand up against this kind of crap. Usually they just tend to keep quiet.

@Ren

actually, some people do and will believe whatever any news organization says,so letting them get away with it isn't a good idea

@ folks decrying the negative-book-review-retaliation:

It's inevitable that some people are going to (have already) post inane, non-constructive drivel that will indeed reflect more poorly on our community than on the idiot we're trying to shine the light on.

However, there are definitely some "reviews" there that are open and honest. Mine own included, many specifically come out and say "I have not read this book, but I feel the need to point out this author's blatant hypocrisy in other media, such as {example}", which is really the most effective thing to do.

We're NOT stooping to her level, because we're not lying about the content of her book(s). We merely pointed out that she was willing and enthusiastic about offering a completely unqualified opinion, as an "expert" on a subject she knows nothing about, about a product she was unwilling or unable to even bother playing once, let alone devoting the proper research to before speaking about.

These are all facts, and ones worth passing along to others. Honestly, if she's willing to do this on television, what's to say she isn't doing the same sort of thing in her writing?

@lumi
Amen.

Let's keep up the pressure on her. She recently set her MySpace account to private (It was not set that way eariler today). And get this, her Wikipedia page has been blocked by administaitors. There's got to be more netroot options to take.

@Dog_Welder
You are correct about CNN and MSNBC. Our gripes about Fox, or at least my gripe, is how Fox News did not even bother to check the facts about the game and completely sensationalized the story.

MSNBC and CNN do have a liberal slant (I once called CNN a complete political opposite of Fox). At least MSNBC and CNN, however, are more cautious about their reporting and do check their facts. When they are incorrect, they apologize on-air.

In 2006, Bill O'Reilly, in an interview on his show with retired 4-star General Wesley Clark, got his facts on the Malmedy massacre during World War 2 insanely incorrect (topic of interview was about the Haditha incident). He said that American troops killed Nazi forces that surrendered to them. It was the other way around. Nazi troops killed the American soldiers that were surrendering. Bill O'Reilly got his facts on the Malmedy massacre sompletely opposite. He never apologized for it.

I remember a make out, almost love scene in scrubs...that was pretty intense. It's good to hear that the industry is fighting back against these claims. I was worried there for a while that they wouldn't do anything.

"Bill is just sad, isnt he? Gotta give the Colbert Report credit for making fun of him…time and time again.
Remember when he went after that open forum website? Calling them all Nazis and what not."

Could you show me how tall a Great Dane is?

Lol that cracked me up.

i really like how the EA guy brought up the Prime time fox shows that show the same things as in mass effect

I found a new place to write a review, at walmart.com. Here's the link
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?9999999997&product_id5706112&s...

thelink@xradionetworks.com

Let the Link Radio Network (host of Miss Cooper's radio show) know what you think of their "expert".

Sorry, another broken link :(
But the phone numbers should work.

GP seems to be lagging a bit n the news lately.. this happened yesterday afternoon and was all over other sites, now there is an update with Fox blowing off EA with a rather short 1 line text message.

@Gamer Dad

Good to see you! Welcome back ^_^

@ Everyone

It's good to see this community coming together like this. Fox is dead wrong and finally EA, one of the largest players in the industry, is taking them to task.

To all those berating individuals who made comments about this $(#*@$ woman's books, drop it. If Fox will not come out and admit their rediculousness and falsehoods written off as "fact" then by all means she should be shown up as the charlotten she is. Why? Simple. No one learns until they find out there is a cost for stupidity. Darwinism at it's finest. However, I agree that the comments should be listed and noted as a protest against the offer and her "expert" opinion.

We as a community should be her shadow now as we have against JT should we not? Why should we inform those who have JT as an "expert" and not every media she uses? Let's keep our focus and make certain that all who claim falsehoods against gaming are held accountable.

*puts away soapbox*

Good on you EA,

Now we need Bill Gates to sue Fox News for their trashing of Mass Effect, because as you all know Mass Effect was on the XBox 360, and that Microsoft is still owned by Bill Gates and he has enough money to sue anyone.

Oh thank you EA
finally a company puts a bucket around the medias mouth to filter all the shit that comes out of their mouths

Is EA being a little tin-hattish with the (conjectured) allegation that Fox News is making games look bad in order to stem the masses abandoning TV?

@Mad_Scientist
Agreed. Stunts like that are what 4chan (more specifically /b/) is known for; a reputation like that is the absolute LAST thing the gaming community needs right now!

If anyone want to setup an interview with her you can do so via:

cooper@cooperlawrenceshow.com

For More Info:

PUBLICIST / TV APPEARANCES
Susan Blond Inc.
Jaime Cassavechia
Associate Vice President
Fifty West 57th Street
14th Floor
New York, NY 10019
T: 212.333.7728 ext. 108
F: 212.262.1373
jaimec@susanblondinc.com

I want to see Jeff and her one-on-one (no pun intended) discuss the merits and demerits of games such as ME and the sex factor it brings to the table for teenage boys who cant tell the difference from reality and all that other vile bigotry FOX unleashed on the public.

I bet I know what the folks over at Fox News were thinking. "Oh shit, I never thought those cretin game developers would call us out on our obvious lies and un-imformed bullshit!"

@ Zephyrus,

Dont forget to thank them for the other things they do right such as raping IPs to force people to move onto something new and giving youngsters in the industry a nice formation.

EA should sue for slander

Yes I read the 'right to lie' suit but from what I understand, the 1st amendment gave them the right to lie, and the FCC didn't have a rule against it (fucking FCC, if you're going to protect us from the 'scary' curse words at least purge the 'news' of liars). But the 1st amendment doesn't cover slander and libel.

@saprtan

You mst be new here, we've all heard this BS before (and we've all heard lies coming from the PTC), but these bills ALWAYS fail to pass on constitutional grounds. The ESA defends these bills and defends them well, and then they charge the states for the legal fees (which are sometimes in the hundreds of thousands).

I'd just like to say something...

Is it just me, or is '08 going to be the year of Electronic Revolution?

oh hell yeah somebody is finally telling it like it is. :) take that fox and what ever company who is ignorant.

I'm so glad there was payback for when they made fun of me during my appearance on one of their newscasts. I DID NOT SNIFF THAT CRACK OFF THAT HOOKER.

Great stuff from EA, and I'm surprised that more people haven't picked up on this but listen to the original broadcast, where Keighley asks Lawrence if she has ever played Mass Effect.
A reasonable question, right? You're shalling out hardcore criticism towards this game, have you had first hand experience of what has provoked you?

According to the transcript, Lawrence replies '(giggling) No.'

Listen to it and take in what she meant through the tone of her voice, it's impossible to pick up through a transcript, but the audio tells us that she meant 'What? No, why would I play that? It's exclusively for teenage boys! I'm only slandering it on nationwide TV, why would I need to do something as disgusting as picking up a gamepad?'

It sounds hysterical on my part, but I ask you again to listen to it, it's clear this this so-called 'journalist' does not care a jot about understanding what they set out to harm. Genuinely disgusting.

I say EA should get Fox to air a retraction and apology. If they refuse I think suing them for libel or slander or whatever its called. The fact is that a representative of Fox News went on national television ans told flat out lies that defamed the character of EA. Its about time that someone with some financial muscle actually held Fox accountable to the truth. Go for it EA. I would imagine the vast majority of the gaming community would be behind you.

Do you know what? I've just had one of the most significant epiphanies I have EVER had. So strong is it that I'm going to copy this post (originating at Gamepolitics.com under the article about EA's response to the FOX News story about the game "Mass Effect") and I'm going to post it to several other blogs. Moreover, I'm going to email this post to several individuals, including Dennis at GP, Hal Halpin at the ECA, and even Mr. Brown at EA. Will anything come of it? Maybe. Maybe not. But I'm going to do it anyway.

Here's the thing. This FOX News report... it was a GOOD thing. Do you know WHY it was a GOOD thing? Simple: we get to cram it down the throats of a number of high ranking and out spoken individuals, organizations, and government groups who DIDN'T comment, let along CONDEMN the quality of the news report.

We've heard time and again from politicans such as Leland Yee (CA) or Senator Burrell (LA), and many others from Utah to NY. Organizations such as the PTC (Parent's Television Council) or the CSM (Common Sense Media) or even NIMF (National Institute on Media and the Family). We've heard from the self-righteous such as John Bruce "Jack" Thompson or the conspiracy theorists such as Lyndon LaRouche.

We've heard them all say how the ESRB does not properly research the games they rate. That the ESRB doesn't properly inform Parents so they can make appropriate choices for their children. We constantly hear how harried Parents are and how they supposedly don't have the appropriate resources to make wise decisions. We hear condemnation upon condemnation against the gaming industry. We hear condemnation upon condemnation against gamers themselves. We hear condemnation upon condemnation against reviewers and game news sites. We hear the cry of moral superiority over everything that is computer and video games. We hear claims that only the government can make the appropriate decisions for Parents as to what is or is not appropriate, whether it's in regards to video games or media in general.


But, WHERE ARE THEY NOW??? FOX News knowingly and INTENTIONALLY aired false information. Everyone at FOX News knew it. Proven just by the few statements allowed by Geoff Keighley, Cooper Lawrence had, in effect, openly lied. And other panelists aided in those lies. But where is the condemnation by politicians against FOX News for knowingly and intentionally LYING TO PARENTS who watched that story? Where is the condemnation against FOX News by the organizations and the self-righteous individuals?

They are all silent. Someone claims that video games are responsible for a crime, and the chatter from politicians, organizations, and the self-righteous never ends. FOX News lies to Parents about video games... and you could hear immortal crickets chirping on the moon.

I say this should be the battlecry. Not simply us screaming about and to FOX News and Cooper Lawrence. But us screaming "WHERE ARE -YOU-!" to those politicians, organizations, and self righteous individuals who've remained silent so far. I say if they have so much condemnation for us and our interests, then maybe we should have condemnation for their SILENCE.

I say not only should individuals be sending intelligent, respectful CONDEMNATIONS to their politicians, those organizations (and others) mentioned, and the self-righteous individuals mentioned (and others not mentioned), but so should our organizations such as the ECA, the VGVN (who until now has appeared as nothing more than a mouth piece), EA, even the ESA, among others.

I say it's time we pointed a few spotlights on those who failed to condemn FOX News' actions.

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software

Oh, this is interesting.

FOX News is claiming they invited EA reps to show up on Live Desk and that EA gave no response.

http://kotaku.com/348791/fox-responds-to-ea-invites-onto-news-show

And they think we'll believe them... why?

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software

My point; when a large corparation (like Time Warner or News Corp) has any kind of issue marketshare-wise, it effects the paycheck of the guy at the very top to the janitor that cleans up after said guy at the top. Marketshare is one of the main factors in why old-media has been going on a assult on new-media as of late.

If any game publisher was willing to accept a deal with them, News Corp would probably have the deep pockets to at least buy out some of the "competition" and knock down video games by acquiring their properties. But since no publisher is ever going to allow them to do that, Fox just sets them up for bad rep down the road.

I would REALLY like to see EA sue fox, because they've got a pretty damn good case.

nice work EA, Fox news should not able be able to broadcast those blatant lies about mass effect.

If a news channel has share holders, it can lie and probably does.

Ironically, didn't EA make the Simpsons game?

I know that EA advertise heavily on Sky One here in the UK, sister channel to Fox.

@C'tri

Rules 1 & 2. You are the cancer that is killing /b/.

Hmmm... I must have missed something.

Anyway very nice posts Nightwing. I fully agree with your sediments.


I hope EA takes Faux to task and more importantly I hope the entire gaming industry rises up and makes itself know for once.

Oddly enough I'm starting to reconsider my opinion about EA and I never thought I would ever entertain such thoughts - the humanity of it all.

@ MR.B

If that is the case, then they should have had not problem leaving in the watermarks. It would have only been fair.

Don't let people like Cooper make a reputation as being an "expert" by simply thrashing a game they haven't even bothered to research, or it may become a trend to gain publicity.

Getting on another station (as well as FOX) would be preferable to entering a debate on FOX.

I beleive that Fox should apologize, then play
mass Effect. It is indeed like shows on fox network....Fox should eat their words.

@jarrod: It's cable unfortunately, oy.

Le sigh. They tend pull off this bullshit on every major news network at some point in time. It's ridiculous.

I sent an emial to Ann via her webpage one of the links above sends you to the page. This is what I wrote, I am by no means an English Major, however I did the best I can and feel that this issue needs to be addressed.

Ma'am after watching you aper on the Fox News show The Live Desk, I feel that you have no sense of journalism. How can you speak so openly about something without any research, sources or first hand experience? I am talking about the Mass Effect segment where you presented yourself as an expert on the subject, when clearly you had no information. You should actually look up the facts about a story before you start to report on it. Many of the things you stated as facts were clearly wrong. Not only do kids not have access to these kinds of games but if they do gain access to them, it is not the industry's fault but the parents fault. This is a game that was reviewed by the ESRB (Entertainment Software Rating Board) as a Mature game and should only be played by adults. Kids do not have the ability to buy this game unless they have an adult purchase this game for them. Ignorance on the parents fault is not an excuse to denounce the game. This only shows the kind of parenting that needs to be addressed. The sex scene that you stated was full of nudity was only 2 minutes long and showed no nudity. It would be in your best interest to apologize to EA (Electronic Arts) and Bioware for slander and misinformation. If you do feel strongly about your opinion on the game, please do the research first before you state that you understand the topic at hand. I do side with your opinion that children should not play mature video games, however the Video Game industry is a form of entertainment and protected under the first amendment. Television is also a form of entertainment that does show violence and nudity. The industry does have a right to publish games such as Mass Effect. I would like to hear a response from you and would like to hear a more accurate defense on how Mass Effect is a threat to children. Please though get the facts straight.

lol, people probably were watching the news and were like, "Snap, i gotta get me that game!" but it's still dumb how they just throw info out like that...kinda propaganda like...oh yeah, thats right..

EA gets some Kudos for that. Fox Loses Kudos for every minute it takes them to state that they were wrong. I think thats a fair deal... now we wait... ... ...ok thats long enough, Fox doesn't care about this issue, so they'll never cover it.

Why are we still talking about it?

Everyone who should know that Fox is full of B.S already knows that Mass Effect does not feature "Pornographic" content. Anyone who doesn't know that Fox is full of B.S is going to stand by their views because Fox told them that if they didn't they wouldn't go to heaven. Considering that Fox tells those people what their views consist of, I see no reason to talk about this any further.

EA said what needed to be said and Fox is going to ignore them.

If it didn't come from Bill Oreily's words, it is not holy. (Sarcasm*)

-nate