
Embattled anti-game attorney Jack Thompson, already awaiting a referee's decision regarding his possible disbarment, got an additional spanking from the Florida Supreme Court on Tuesday.
A docket entry posted by the Court, and forwarded to
GamePolitics by Thompson himself, reveals that the controversial attorney has been hit with a
show cause order for allegedly "abusing the legal system:"
02/19/2008 ORDER-SHOW CAUSE TO: JOHN BRUCE THOMPSON It appears to the Court that you have abused the legal system by submitting numerous frivolous and inappropriate filings in this Court.
Therefore, it is ordered that you shall show cause on or before March 5, 2008, why this Court should not find that you have abused the legal system process and impose upon you a sanction for abusing the legal system, including, but not limited to directing the Clerk of this Court to reject for filing any future pleadings, petitions, motions, letters, documents, or other filings submitted to this Court by you unless signed by a member of The Florida Bar other than yourself.
GP: I've not yet seen the complete text of the Florida Supreme Court's order so I am unable to fully address what behavior on Thompson's part may have provoked the show cause ruling. A request to Thompson to explain the situation went unanswered, as did a request for a copy of the full show cause ruling.
As he typically does, Thompson has tried to bluster his way through this latest setback, writing in an e-mail:
This is the single greatest gift that any court has ever given me in my 31 years of practicing law. I shall now, through a new federal lawsuit, deconstruct The Florida Bar...
Thank you, Supremes! You have given me the weapons I need.
Commenting on the show cause order, Florida attorney Norm Kent, a longtime legal adversary of Thompson's, told
GamePolitics:
This is game, set, match for Mr. Thompson. The Supreme Court gave him a warning last April. Now he is going to be barred from even arguing or pleading his own case. And once the Supreme Court does this, other jurisdictions will follow suit. Looks like his only venue will be Fox News and gaming site blogs...
Meanwhile, Thompson has forwarded a response to the Florida Supreme Court. Again, more of the bluster (why does he see this as a winning tactic?):
This court’s panicked threat against Thompson... has wonderfully proven not just that Thompson has no “adequate state remedy” but that he has no state remedy at all. This court threatens Thompson if he even files this pleading.
This is a brazen attempt by this court to repeal the absolute right of every citizen, under the First Amendment, to “petition the government for a redress” of grievances...
The [Florida] Bar threatens a whistleblower with retribution because he dares to keep blowing the whistle? This court has threatened Thompson. He does not threaten back. He hereby informs this court that he will see it in federal court. This court has just thrown Brer Rabbit into the briar patch.
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The Bar taking away his license will certainly be one of the greatest things for any of us.
Did he seriously just say he wasn't going to threaten them back, then threatened them that he'd take them to federal court? Thus is the reason why Thompson is crazy.
I could see it now...a T-Shirt with Jackie Boy's face on it saying "The Court threatens, but I inform!"
Ah. It's refreshing to watch this loon stab himself in the foot. It's the highlight of my day.
I wonder if anyone's going to print up "Jack THompson got disbarred and all I got was this lousy T-shirt" shirts. >.> Anyone? I'd buy one... Or two... Dozen.
AgnostoTheo:
I'll take the 1,000,000 - 1 bet for $1. If the unthinkable happens, I'll be a millionaire. If it doesn't, I'd buy that for a dollar.
And his retort is alogn the lines of "nyah nyah, don't have to!!!"
Like trying to beat an F22 Raptor using an Ultralight
OMG that is nearly EXACTLY what JT said when Take Two sued him! Guess what? TT and R* are still here.
Truly the rantings of a mentally handicapped "man".
It's a parody of a Family Guy joke.
Anyway, on the subject of his wife, I wonder what her thoughts are on his actions? Does she support him or not? And why hasn't she forced some sense into him by now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Smirnoff
It's nothing to do with Family Guy. Have a read.
Now, he'll get what he had coming for 31 years (since I saw no successful cases in his records).
"Florida Bar 1[IMHO 9+], Jack Thompson 0 GamePolitics.com ? Blog Archive ?"
When I look at JT's current antics I don't take joy in it anymore because of how many times he's done it. At this point, the man could dress up as Jesus in Full costume with full self-inflicted stigmata and set himself on fire in the street and I wouldn't surprised by it.
His situation right now reminds me of the old WWII anecdote that ended up in Saving Private Ryan: A bunch of allied soldiers take down a group of Nazis and purposefully leave one alive. They make the live one dig graves for the bodies of the dead he's killed until he loses count of how many holes he's dug. When his captures tell the Nazi he's finished, he instantly realizes he's dug one hole too many at which point the Allied Soldiers shoot him in the head.
JT is not one of the Allied soldiers in this analogy.
Yes, he's that desperate that forging your own signature is now a criminal offense that should force you to lose your job.
This means Jack might have to find a REAL lawyer to help him?
Crap, he just might win.
Unfortunately, you're probably right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb7BJQ7LAlo
Also, make sure you close your tags. I think that if you don't close your tags on this board, the following messages will be stuck in the tags. I could be wrong, but it looks like the previous people got stuck in a quote tag.
Does this work?
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"What is the tage for quotes?"
I normally use italics but "blockquote" is probably what you're looking for.
Andrew Eisen
"You may or may not be aware that the controversial Floridian Lawyer Jack Thompson is claiming that your paper supposedly verifies the "fact" that the Virginia Tech mass murderer CSeung-Hui Cho played the PC game Counter-Strike. I do recall reading that in your paper, but I also recall the point vanishing from the story soon after. As everyone except for Mr. Thompson is now aware the point about Counter-Strike was proven false by the official Virginia Tech report.
Was this point officially retracted on this point, and if so what is the Post's opinion on Mr. Thompson falsely claiming your paper as a reference on this erroneous point to other news agencies?"
FFVI reference for the win.
Jack's pulling out all the stops with the empty threats now. The threats smack of "conspiracy theorist". He's probably thinking it's all a big conspiracy again!
He's treating his whole career like a game. Or in his words, "Jack is in a hyper-reality situation in virtual reality."
But the point of Counter-Strike I've not been able to find in the Post's archives. Ergo, its a point they may no longer support.
It's a Blog by various legal professionals in Miami. I spent all day yesterday just browsing and my mind is officially blown at his demeanor.
I'm finding a lot of stuff for some reason that I missed before.
you are not a whistleblower. whistleblowers do not post pornography in the docket
whistleblowers do not make claims such as " This court has just thrown Brer Rabbit into the briar patch."
and most importantly, whistle blowers do not refer to themselves as christians, yet claim Thank you, Supremes! You have given me the weapons I need. when chrisianity is a monotheistic religion.
your just crashing and burning and clawing at the walls to try and stop your fall.
? Enter room
Jack Thompson enters the court room. It is dark, he can hardly see anything. He is likely to be eaten by a gr...The Florida Bar.
Chosen One: I'm sure on some planet your style is impressive, but your weak link is: this is Earth.
Wimp Lo: Oh yeah? Then try my nuts to your fist style!
I thank that sums JT up perfectly.
I seriously ought to just make a calm rant about him in my deviantart journal and send him a link to it in an e-mail. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he threatened to sue ME, like the child that he is.
Right, because his federal appeals have worked GREAT so far... ;)
I've always wanted to see what happens when a lawyer gets slapped for "filing too many inappropriate filing..."
I'm sure getting his license taken away will top this for 'greatest thing' the court has done to him.
Heh... so true. He's quite the optimist.
Crazy +10
Seriously, his responses are purely delusional, and I wish I could come up with an analogy for it but I cannot possibly concieve anything mindbendlingly absurd that would match the lunacy, except maybe for Hitler's insistence that he was still going to win the war even as the Russians were knocking on his door.
Maybe Thompson has Parkinsons and is a meth addict as well?
On another note "including, but not limited to directing the Clerk of this Court to reject for filing any future pleadings, petitions, motions, letters, documents, or other filings submitted to this Court by you unless signed by a member of The Florida Bar other than yourself."
Isn't his wife a member of the bar? In fact didn't someone say she was on the disciplinary board for it as well? Couldn't he just have her sign whatever nonsense he wants to push through? She obviously hasn't had a problem with his shinanigans so far.
a) All of Thompson's bluster doesn't change the fact that he is not prevented from petitioning the government for a redress of grievances - he just has to go through a (sane) attorney.
b) This is potentially bad news - it forces him to retain actual legal counsel, something he has been sorely in need of for years.
I do believe Uncle Frank from Home Alone put it perfectly: "You be optimistic, I'll be realistic."
He's digging himself deeper and deeper with this foolish bravado. Keep it up, Jack!
Or it could be bad, in that the ruling will come back in his favor, and they're still just trying to shut him up for all his douchebaggery.
Here's to hoping!!!
He has more than a touch of megalomania, me thinks. At the very least, he's a self-absorbed ass with an ego at least as large as the stacks of nuisance filings he produces.
Every time you have said that a legal setback was a blessing in disguise, you have been shown to be wrong. What makes this situation any different than the others?
Prediction: IMMEDIATE NEWS RELEASE: Florida Bar Begs Thompson For Mercy Following Thompson's Massive and Total Victory
I believe it is as game-set-match as it can be. If Mr Thompson tries theatrics at the show cause, well, let's just say that alternate career paths may have to be explored.
I would admire Jack's "I reject your reality and substitute my own" mentality if he weren't so incredibly wrong about pretty much everything.
"(1)Isn’t his wife a member of the bar? (2)In fact didn’t someone say she was on the disciplinary board for it as well? (3)Couldn’t he just have her sign whatever nonsense he wants to push through? (4)She obviously hasn’t had a problem with his shinanigans so far."
1.His wife is a member of the bar (I think).
2.I dont think she can sit for the disiplinary actions of her husband. Something about having ones preception colored by intimatly knowing the accused.
3.See point 2 for why she cant sign whatever he wants to do.
4.We dont know that.
He really has been practicing for years. Shame he never got to actually go out there and try the real thing. Ah well, there's always Judge Judy for him to look forward to!
he seriously wants to see himself as a martyr sacrificing himself for the children (although i suspect actually he just wasnts the money and publicity) as a 'whistleblower'
And then he makes out like the judges are all gamers who want to 'silence' him, but he'll keep on taking the hits for the future of mankind.
Lol JT do yourself a favour, these judges keep on telling you you are an idiot, not because they are on the game industry payroll, but because you are an idiot. simple. They are bringing up your errors as MATTERS OF LAW. I am of the opinion you ABUSE THE LEGAL SYSTEM (they also said so) and that wastes taxpayer cash. It also irritates the heck outta everyone. your like a gnat buzzing around somebodies head, repeatedly bashing into them like your puny weight will do anything. Well sooner or later people get tired of that , and they will swat you like the meaningless parasite that you are.
Oh and after all the comments on the samuel jackson blog, JT returned to post just one short sentence. 'you gamer idiots'. hahah mature, and professional. wow.. and you wonder why people think you shouldnt be a lawyer when you say things like that.
AT LEAST WE DIDNT POST TO SAMUEL L JACKSON ON AN OBVIOUS SPOOF BLOG (LIKE HE WOULD EVEN HAVE TIME FOR YOU!) , NOW WHO'S THE IDIOT!
I would never have guessed.....
And there are [i]still[/i] no American tanks in Baghdad, apparently.....
Hopefully this is a good indication of how the court is going to decide. It's clear now that they've had enough of him and are probably embarrassed that they've allowed for him to practice law for a long as he has. I believe disbarrment is the only logical route they can take, and hopefully his latest antics regarding NIU will give them more reason to lean in that direction. Even a suspension would not be enough for them at this point.
Optimistic isn't he? Now let's see how he gets barred from practicing law in Florida.
Even when he loses horribly, he still somehow wins!!
Unfortunatly I think he needs to be commited by a psycologist's prognosis not a judges, and unfortunatly jack has a habbit of acting in sutch a way during the evaluation that they say he's a devout man but not nuts. Yes (I think) they have to examin him before hes commited (unfortunatly)
So basically, the court's saying that because JT's been 'allegedly' abusing the legal system like a red headed step child (which he has, I'm sure GP has more than enough examples of this on record), that the court wants to see how they aren't actual abuses (even if they are).
In summation, JT's painted himself into a corner of his own legal making. Good going JT. A winnar is you!
I think it doesn't matter what the court where going to decide, Jack's own actions have more or less made up their mind for them, so even if he would have got away with just a slap on the wrist for his previous behaviour, he's let his tantrum throwing persona loose somewhere outside just the Internet, and helped make up their mind for them.
I suspected when this first all came down that Jack would face a few months suspension and a written warning, a lawyer has to seriously screw up or break the law to be disbarred, but I honestly think Jack took that chance and ripped to shreds all by himself with his own actions, he's a thorn in the bar's side, but not in the way he thinks he is, not because they are worried about him, but because he gives them a headache, much like a 6 year-old screaming in a Supermarket because he didn't get sweeties.
To quote fake Sam L J on Jack, 'I know you got some cool in there, it just ain't nowhere near a public got-damned forum'.
It's like watching a VW-Beetle with NOS driving down the train tracks towards an oncoming locomotive.
It's like looking at an eight year old trying to be an adult, it's cute.
But then I laugh.
:/
In Bizzaro world, Jack is an excellent lawyer.
or
In Soviet Russia, Florida Bar sues Jack!
Seriously.. spill the beans already GP, this JT character has been a riot and deserves his own skit on a G4 show.. maybe he can be the voice over for Ninja Warrior. Squid Man will win it all next time!
There's two big reasons why she probably wouldn't if she cares about her career. One, it's obviously a big conflict of interests. From what I know of professional ethics (which is some, I'm studying for a professional exam these days) you want to avoid any situation that even presents the possibility of a conflict of interests.
Second, the purpose of making JT pass his filings through another attorney is so that the other attorney would not sign off on JT's crap, thereby helping to decrapify the courts. If JT's wife used her position as a bar lawyer to let him keep filing the lawsuits, she'd be jeopardizing her own status as a member of the bar and may expose herself to sanctions.
There's no Florida in Russia..
A man is driving down the freeway when he receives a cell phone call from his wife. He answers, and his wife says, "Honey, have you been listening to the news? Apparently there's one crazy guy driving the wrong way down the freeway!" To which the man replies, "One guy going the wrong way? Dear, I see hundreds of them!"
I dunno...I think the "stupidity" or "mistakes" poster would be perfect for Mr. Thompson. Furthermore, is there a lawyer in the state of Florida that will sign off for him after seeing what he has done?
Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and other insane christian activists were/are surely real people. Lyndon Larouche is a real person. If kooks like them are real, then believing JT is real isn't too far of a stretch.
I've worked with legit mental patients back in college, and some worked under similar "logic" that JT does. He's perfectly believable.
When the whistle blows at a deafening volume non-stop for days on end, then yeah, I'd want retribution as well.
"The [Florida] Bar threatens a whistleblower with retribution because he dares to keep blowing the whistle?"
This has absolutely nothing to to do with his whistleblowing (read: quest for self promotion), but is regarding his SPAMMING of the docket with motion after motion after addition and correction. Hardly a day goes by without one or two extra motions thrown on there and frankly the court has had enough. Whether they believe he is using it as a stalling tactic, or that he is trying to bury the original charge under so much paperwork that it will fall over, they want answers and this Show Cause motion is intended to get them. Unfortunately, Jack cannot understand this and sees it as an attack.
On the other hand, perhaps he understands only too well, but knows as well as we do that there is no defense for his spamming of the docket with ludicrous and spurious claims. Such childish behaviour is unbefitting and adult, let alone an attorney in his practice.
Thank you, Supremes! You have given me the weapons I need."
So JT is Anonymous?
"Isn’t his wife a member of the bar? In fact didn’t someone say she was on the disciplinary board for it as well? Couldn’t he just have her sign whatever nonsense he wants to push through? She obviously hasn’t had a problem with his shinanigans so far."
Yes, his wife is a member of the bar, and is on the disciplinary board. However, due to conflict of interest (natch) she'd have to sit out on any decisions regarding his fate.
She *could* sign his stuff for him, but methinks that at the very least, the number of lunatic filings would decrease, and perhaps even the spelling and tone would improve. While she probably tolerates him filing such nonsense, I suspect she'd have the good sense to at least review them before attaching her own John Hancock to any slew of documents he threw at the court.
The gay porn incident, I believe, would be a prime example of something that would have been handled differently. She would likely have applied for a sealed submission, for one...
Great, now he's trying to quote Anonymous.
On January 22, 1987, the day of the ruling, Dwyer held a press conference on live televsion. After making a speech reiterating how he had been a victim in this whole situation, he reached down and pulled out a .357 Magnum! He stuck it in his mouth, pulled the trigger and blew his brains out. All with the cameras still rolling.
We're all familiar with Jack's martyr complex as well as his quest for fame. It seems to me that he's heading in this direction given the way things are going. With the loss of his license, he'll have no other way really to continue that and his recourse may be some final, desperate act of grandstanding that will make him seem like a martyr while at the same time giving a big "Fuck you" to his enemies. His ego's certainly big enough I think to do that. So a public suicide would be a possibility.
Read Budd Dwyer's wikipedia entry for more.
Now he's sent out that message about how he's going to "destroy" the Florida Bar I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in front of an ad hoc committee next week.
Ain't Karma a bitch?
Great idea! Head over to Zazzle, and start designing. I'd buy one.
In this case, we'd argue that video games caused it.
We're witnessing history here folks, soon John Bruce will have no pedestal to stand on to spit his "brilliant thoughts" because it'll be kicked out from underneath him.
A good read
He is the don quixote of the Florida legal system and of the video games debate.
"Nice knowing you but it's time to get the hell out."
http://www.lolcats.com/view/10241
Fixed Temorarily maybe.
I'm beginning to think someone's screwing with the code. We've had the site down twice in three days, this happens and the internet's probably going to explode tomorrow.
Now if he can just get his hands on some Magicite . . .
Utter moron. The soner he looses his license, the better.
That's the definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result.
I think it goes more like:
This court has just thrown my career into the toilet.
I beleive we do know that she has no problem with his goings on. As a mother, or at least a good one, if she didn't beleive he was doing right she would have put an end to him useing their son as a pawn in his game after the first time.
The order isn't effective yet, and in fact they *are* telling him to file a response to that order. Responses are not motions. Of course he's yet to actually comprehend the "show cause" bit in his blustering response, but I suspect he'll get something in at the 11th hour that actually states his case and tries to show cause. It happened with his gay porn filings (he more or less apologized) and it's likely to happen here.
Not that it'll save him. He's racking up even *more* egregious ethics violations against him with the latest round of accusations against Judge Tunis and others. I'm curious how one "forges" their own signature, anyway.
JT still has an active practice in the medical malpractice field, so his career is still going. I don't know about going strong, but still going. No doubt he's got a career waiting as a Fox News wonk after he's disbarred...
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It works even less when you're in the real world and those "bullies" are superiors trying to put you out of a job.
He has never suffered a setback, and has won every case, even if it only seems so to himself, rather then in a technicaly "real" sense.
If he looses his license, he will be on Faux News claiming that it was his crusade against immorality that was the cause, and this is all proof.
The only question is, will Faux News support him or not? For one, he will seems like a martyr that wants to raise family values. However, they should know that the more they reveal about his "crusade" the more it will show that their expert has issues. Will they continue to back a horse once it becomes apparent he is losing?
As a Lawyer, he should know that this new lawsuit has no chance of suceeding, in any way shape or form. I don't believe that this is the first time this has happened, and no one is stopping him from bringing a lawsuit, he just can't do it by himself anymore. What is amazing is he doesn't see the irony for filing a frivolous lawsuit against punishment for filing frivolous lawsuits. And I wouldn't count on his wife signing everything for him either, or it could have the same punishment for frivolous lawsuits.
The one bright side to this is that if he figures he will file suit against them in a federal case, then it also means that he isn't going to try and show cause why they shouldn't do what is is suing them for doing....
If Jack had a real understanding of the legal process, had any reading comprehension skills at all, he would understand that they're asking him to explain himself and all of these crazy filings. (NOTE: if Jack had a real understanding of the legal process, he would not have even come CLOSE to being in the situation he's in now, but let's just go with the flow here.)
Let's take a look at his response:
[i]This court’s panicked threat against Thompson… has wonderfully proven not just that Thompson has no “adequate state remedy” but that he has no state remedy at all. This court threatens Thompson if he even files this pleading.[/i]
Jack now believes the federal courts MUST take his case because the state is threatening him. This is not so. The SCOFLA is not saying he can't respond (in fact, they're asking him to respond), but they are threatening him with sanctions if his response isn't good enough.
[i]This is a brazen attempt by this court to repeal the absolute right of every citizen, under the First Amendment, to “petition the government for a redress” of grievances… [/i]
This is not the case at all. The SCOFLA is just saying Jack will need to get another Bar member to sign off on his craziness. Jack is still able to "petition the government for a redress of grievances," but he'll just have to do it like a normal person does, i.e. through a sane lawyer.
[i]The [Florida] Bar threatens a whistleblower with retribution because he dares to keep blowing the whistle? This court has threatened Thompson. He does not threaten back. He hereby informs this court that he will see it in federal court. This court has just thrown Brer Rabbit into the briar patch.[/i]
Jack says he won't threaten, but then does just that. He just doesn't know when to shut his own piehole and will end up digging himself in deeper (if that's even possible at this point). He's got the federal courts already ticked off at him, now he's going to go after the SCOFLA again? Jack has already been told that the federal courts will NOT step in while there is ongoing legal action. Guess what? There's ongoing legal action here!
It amazes me that Jack was able to graduate from a legal school and manage to pass a Bar Exam.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
mmm...schadenfreude
So now he's going to sue the florida supreme court for ordering that he prove he's not abusing the court system? Am I the only one that smells irony? What a douche.
gg Jack, but you're as good as disbarred.
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Thanks for the link. It *IS* a good read. I especially love the bit where JT responds to the Show Cause Order, by responding that the court has no jurisdiction since they all failed to sign their loyalty oaths (or forged them, as he claims with Judge Tunis, although his signature "expert" is a man who was criticized during the JonBenét Ramsey case for being unreliable, uneducated, and uncertified. He has also has questionable "credentials" apparently... see pg 7)
If Jack's wife is in the bar, what is their relationship like at home.
For one, her employer is trying to take away Jack's license.
Jack is trying to take the Bar down.
I wonder if they have fights about this. Maybe she supports him fully. Maybe she's humoring him because she believes he is doing the impossible. In a way, though, he is threatening her job. Shouldn't she be mad about that? Did she quit for Jack? Maybe that's why Jack is doing challenging people to debate him for money. Perhaps, he is now the sole provider for his home and needs that extra cash to make ends meet. Poor guy.
Jack quit defending hospitals against medical malpractice lawsuits more than 20 years ago.
From the looks of the docket that was linked to earlier in this thread it seems like the sanctions mentioned may only be for that spefic case. In other words if they sanctioned him it would mean he'd need another lawyer to sign off on his filings for THAT case, but he wouldn't be barred from making all sorts of crazy motions and filings on other ongoing or on future cases.
Can anyone tell me this is the case or not?
I love that link, it brightened my entire day. My absolute favorite part was this:
FILED AS "VERIFIED SUPPLEMENT TO PLAINTIFF'S PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDAMUS [WARNING: THIS PLEADING HAS BEEN PREPARED AND SUBMITTED BY A LAWYER THAT THE FLORIDA BAR ALLEGES IS INSANE]" (DENIED, SEE ORDER DATED 10/10/07)
Seriously, it seems he tries to send in new paperwork as to why no judge is worthy of him several times a week., up to three times a day (like, just yesterday).
I'm bookmarking that docket. I think I'll pull it up whenever I need cheering.
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@Cobvious I wouldn't know if it is for that one case or all of them, it may even be that that one case is the important one.
Ah, thanks for the clarification.
It is certainly within the Court's authority to require co-counsel's signature for any filing by Jack with the Court in any and every case before the Court. Actually, I believe it is unlikely that the Court would indeed limit such a sanction to a particular case.
Thanks for the clarification.
Just finished reading the dsimissal of Baggetts testimony in that trial. That is the 'expert' Mr. Thompson got to 'verify' the signatures? Hell, the last court said that he couldn't even pass the daubert test. Like an open-handed-across-the-face-what-the-hell-are-you-thinking slap.
Why on earth would you use an 'expert' like that? Also, where did you hear that this expert was the one Mr. Thompson picked up? I am curious to see what legal circles these gents travel in.
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The Washington Post article in question originally featured the following sentence:
“Several Korean youths who knew Cho Seung Hui from his high school days said he was a fan of violent video games, particularly Counterstrike, a hugely popular online game published by Microsoft, in which players join terrorism or counterterrorism groups and try to shoot each other using all types of guns.”
I don’t think the publication would have a problem with Thompson citing an early draft of its report. What it may have a problem with is Thompson using that single sentence as proof that Cho was an obsessive Counterstrike player and rehearsed on it to perform the VT massacre.
That Cho played CS when he was in high school is probably true. That he was obsessed with it and trained on it to commit murder is Thompson’s conjecture, nothing more.
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ohh, another one. Wheeler v. Olympia Sports Center (2004). Testimony thrown out due to not passing Daubert. This gent has a history. Apparently he was one of the 'handwriting experts' that fingered Karr as the killer of JonBenet Ramsey. Karr was later released due to a lack of corrabative evidence.
http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/21/florida-supreme-court-comes-down-hard...
He brings up Ted Bundy defending himself in court for crying out loud.
As for his wife, I think she must work in *a* bar, not *the* bar. I know I'd be drinking 24/7 if I had to be married to that.
Thank you, Supremes! You have given me the weapons I need.
He still thinks this is a first amendment issue, and that he is going to win?
What happened to being responsible for one's actions? The court told him to cut it out or face the consequences, which Jack chose to ignore and continue despite several warnings.
I don't see where the free speech issue is in all of this, Jack chose to ignore their requests and procedures, and is now being called by the court to DEFEND his abusing the legal system. So all Jack has to do is respond with a good reason why what he is doing isn't abuse....
That being said, people need to realize that freedom of speech doesn't mean the freedom to waste everyones time, nor does it mean people have to listen to you! And just because you have first amendment rights, it doesn't mean it will excuse you out of everything you do or say.
GP:(why does he see this as a winning tactic?):
He probably learned, like with his previous fight with the Florida Bar, that ticking people off is a good way to to get out of being responsible for his actions and failing cases.
For a good example of this, see the Bully case.
Jack: He does not threaten back
Now we all know that is a huge load of BS... Like I said before this "lawyer" needs the toy(i.e. the legal system) he loves to use & abuse taken away from him.
With luck, this won't be italic...
http://jweb.flcourts.org/pls/docket/ds_docket?p_caseyear=2007&p_casenumb...
01/09/2008 PETITION-AMENDMENT/SUPPLEMENT
01/09/2008 PETITION-MANDAMUS
01/11/2008 LETTER FROM RESPONDENT TO GOVERNOR CRIST REGARDING RESPONDENT'S COMPLAINTS AGAINST THE JUDICIAL BRANCH
01/22/2008 PETITION-AMENDMENT/SUPPLEMENT
01/22/2008 PETITION-AMENDMENT/SUPPLEMENT
01/28/2008 PETITION-AMENDMENT/SUPPLEMENT
01/28/2008 PETITION-PROHIBITION
01/28/2008 REQUEST-ORAL ARGUMENT
02/01/2008 PETITION-AMENDMENT/SUPPLEMENT
02/07/2008 ORDER-RECUSAL
02/07/2008 PETITION-AMENDMENT/SUPPLEMENT
02/11/2008 PETITION-AMENDMENT/SUPPLEMENT
02/11/2008 PETITION FOR WRIT OF PROHIBITION/MANDAMUS FOR RECUSAL, DISMISSAL OF ALL CHARGES, OR DE NOVO PROCEEDINGS
02/13/2008 PETITION-PROHIBITION
02/15/2008 PETITION-PROHIBITION
02/19/2008 PETITION-PROHIBITION
02/19/2008 MOTION-REHEARING ON MISC
02/19/2008 MOTION-STAY (FSC PROCEEDINGS)
all of these motions were either to "force" recusal of judges, dismissal of referees, or otherwise clutter the system with busywork.
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So it looks like his career's 'stay of execution' is finally over, huh?
The real Jack Thompson is a competent lawyer trapped in Bizzaro's parallel dimension!
Wow... You can talk to impotent 15-year-old gamers over the internet like that, but that's not a wise way to talk to a judge. Careful, Jack, your crazy is showing.
Florida Bar/Video Game Industry/Gamers/Etc. 222, Jack Thompson 0.
It's in the bag.
I lost count of how many times he has used that line by simply changing the name (Rockstar seems to be leading though). Never has his so called "good fortune" helped in in the slightest (or rather say he has hurt himself more). It as reached a point now beyond pity or humor. Again I am lead to ask how the name of the gods he passed a mental examine and was shown to be sane (and none harmful). Ah well, soon it will be over but the faded shouts (could just hear JBT asking for a "do over").
“But the point of Counter-Strike I’ve not been able to find in the Post’s archives. Ergo, its a point they may no longer support.”
Not necessarily. According to a Joystiq interview with the Washington Post staff writer who reported that factoid, it was removed “to make room for more recent, more relevant information.”
Andrew Eisen
Thank you, Supremes! You have given me the weapons I need."
What are you, a legal masochist?
"The [Florida] Bar threatens a whistleblower with retribution because he dares to keep blowing the whistle?"
You're only 'blowing the whistle' as much as the homeless guy on the street corner with a 'THE END IS NIGH' sign around his neck, and thusly, they care just as much. Meaning they don't give a crap about baseless arguments.
"He does not threaten back."
Didn't you JUST say "I will destroy the Florida Bar" several HUNDRED times in the past years?
You're not worth they're time. Or our time. Or ANYONE'S time. Goodbye and have a nice life, Mr. Thompson.
Yes but the underlying point is that just because one newspaper says it doesn't mean it is fact.
"i read the news today oh boy"
“Yes but the underlying point is that just because one newspaper says it doesn’t mean it is fact.”
Doesn’t make it false either. There’s really no reason to doubt that high school acquaintances of Cho’s did indeed say he played Counterstrike. After all, a short passage in the New York Times indicates that he played games at one point.
“When Mr. Cho entered Virginia Tech, which is crouched in the Blue Ridge Mountains of southwest Virginia, his parents drove him to school with guarded expectations. Perhaps he would no longer retreat to video games and playing basketball alone the way he did at home. Perhaps college might crack the mystery of who he was, extract him from his suffocating cocoon and make him talk.”
So, what we have here are two newspapers reporting that Cho played video games before college. However, nowhere in either publication does it say or even remotely imply that Cho was obsessed with violent games or trained on them to murder people.
Andrew Eisen
I m thinking we throw him a LAN Party or Better yet we throw him BYOG (Bring your own Games) party. Who knows Dick Chaney, George Bush, Jed Bush, and Samuel L Jackson might show up.
Now who are we going to get to provide the consoles and the TV? Circuit City? Best Buy?
Remember that gay porn thing and how he mangaged to wiggle out of that one. Alot of people thought he was done for by then.
*DOOM... DOOM... DOOM...*
He cannot get out. There is no escape.
LOL, then the real Jack Thompson (trapped in Bizarro World) is the more coherent and rational man alive and always wins his cases, is humble and never accept money for interviews or debates. In fact, the real Jack Thompson believes videogames are good for children
Master Tang: Pay no attention to Wimp Lo, we purposely trained him wrong... as a joke.
Master Tang: Please forgive Wimp Lo. He is an idiot.
Wimp Lo: I'm bleeding, making me the victor.
[Chosen One kicks Wimp-Lo in the face. Wimp-Lo does a pose]
Wimp Lo: Ha! Face to foot style, how do you like it?
Chosen One: I'm sure on some planet your style is impressive, but your weak link is: this is Earth.
Wimp Lo: Oh yeah? Then try my nuts to your fist style!
Ling: Please, stop. Wimp Lo sucks as a fighter, a child could beat him.
Wimp Lo: If you've got an ass I'll kick it!
Wimp Lo: Knock, knock. Who's there? Your butt that's about to be kicked!
If he's disbarred, he loses all usefulness to them. I mean they can put a shrink on the air and they just have to say shes a shrink. They let the viewer assume she knows whats shes doing. But you put Thompson on the air post disbarrmen and the only hook they got is "Author". Of what? a book that came out years ago and bombed?
Who's got a time machine I can borrow!?
I don't think you're correct. Fox News doesn't currently identify him as a lawyer anyway; it seems to like "school shooter expert."
Anyway, if he gets disbarred, Thompson will just play the role of martyr and claim that the powers that be are too in love with their money to listen to his warnings and are trying to silence him so they can continue to profit off our children.
Andrew Eisen
I don´t think he is our worst enemy. He is just an attention whore with luck, and that luck is about to end.
He is just way too fun and mainstream media like Faux Noise knows it and uses him because scandal brings big ratings rather than a rational and normal guy.
I don´t even think Fox News take Jacko´s videogame vendetta seriously.
Oh well :)
Jack Thompson, just stop breathing. You're wasting our oxygen.
I paused over it. Wasn't quite sure how to take it. It could be seen as a zing.
I dont think Norm Kent zinged us, I think he meant that Jack Thompson only outlets are Fox News and Gaming Blogs (well actually all blogs), since well Fox News are ready to interview him as soon a massacre occurs, and Gaming Blogs, rather All Blogs, since we all know that Jack Thompson frequently googles himself to find any story related to him just so he can post his "agenda."
Hmm thinking about I m cringing at the thought of him creating his own blog, or youtube channel, then again I doubt he has the knowledge to do so, but if he does it will probably be like his Book on Amazon.com.
Ha maybe Jack can start debating people via youtube videos, but of course he wouldnt get paid so he wouldnt do it.
I wonder what his job will be after this? anyone want to take a guess?
McDonalds Employee?
Circuit City Employee?
Best Buy Employee?
GameSpot Employee?
Airport Security Bathroom Checker?
Janitor?
The guy on the street with a sign "pay me to tell me off"?
I mean, it's us and then FOX news that'll give him any thought, and we can't do much against FOX.
My God, someone else likes Kung Pow! For some time I was actually thinking "is this the time to use a Kung Pow reference to make a comment about Jack Thompson" and you beat me to it!
I wanted to add, what Ling said about Wimp Lo, "Your confidence is disproportional to your abilities!" Fitting quote to say to Jack Thompson.
Are you referring to the Mayan, Christian and Nostradamus belief that the world will end on Dec. 12 2012(4 years till the end people sin to your heart's content then repent! THE END IS NEAR)
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Wait so Jack is stating the Supreme court doesn't want him filing cases when in fact they're just telling him to get another lawyer to sign off...how will this exaggerated response(read: threatening to sue after saying he won't threaten them) allow him to "deconstruct the Florida bar" rather than dig his own grave deeper...you know so its actually in the magma core of the planet. Well time to start prepping the victory party for his now inevitable disbarment and a quote from portal: Remember when the platform was sliding into the fire pit and I said 'Goodbye' and you were like (deep male voice) 'NO WAY!' (normal voice) and then" you burned to death XD (not a death threat just a joke)
I would guess the court knows that JT has nothing to show and are assembling a set of sanctions that will effectively castrate his ability to practice any meaningful form of litigation for a long while. He has every bit of it coming.
But in law he's shooting a Quintuple Bogey... Sorry Jack, no Mulligans for you this time.
It's a tricky course, it's all straight and uncluttered and you know how jack is, he gets dizzy if he tries to walk in a straight line...
Take that damn shovel away from him.
Does Jack know what "abused the legal system" means? Jack, you know that this is bad right?!
There needs to be a voice of dissent. Like it or not, even if Dennis doesn't report on Thompson Fox News WILL. And without news such as this people might actually think that Thompson is a "School Shooting Expert".
just for the record, Christians dont think the world is going to end on that date, just the Mayans and Nostradamus.
Shovel? the man has been digging longer, and deeper then a shovel alone can handle. the tool's he's probably using is a jackhammer, a shovel, and a front-end loader.
Maybe here on Earth, but that's doesn't seem to be how things work in Jack Thompson land, where this man apparently resides.
@Erik
Indeed, if we ignore him he won't simply 'go away'; however if this latest news is any indication, he should be about out of juice to power his spotlight for the alotted 15 minutes anyway.
Kind of like I miss Van Damme films: Sure, most of them sucked and Van Damme often can't act a cents worth, but there was a certain trashy flare to most of his movies that just made them hilariously funny (although he probably didn't want that), and thus entertaining.
Jack, with all the crap he's spewing forth, is pretty much the same: It's so outragously funny most of the time that I can't help thinking that this man may in fact be a comic genius... sort of like the Andy Kaufman for all things computer games.
Oh well, with Jack gone, maybe Van Damme will create some more comedy...
"I am Jack's complete lack of surprise"
Who's selling popcorn?
He plays a "school shooting expert" & a "violent video game expert" on TV. Lets give credit where credit is due.
Actually, that's just people overreacting... those calendar were created centuries ago, correct? 2012 is just where they... stopped writing.
http://justicebuilding.blogspot.com/2008/02/rule-shmule.html
He's filed an FCC complaint and threatened (who I believe is) the guy who runs junsticebuilding.blogspot with a subpoena:
"By the way, any additional libels of me here will result in Rumpole's getting a subpoena"
and
"This is my formal complaint against the NBC Television Network and all of its affiliates (in Miami its affiliate is WTVJ-TV) for airing Jane Fonda's use of the word "c**t" in its Today show telecast on Valentine's Day, of all things, February 14, 2008, outside the "safe harbor" for such indecent comments."
The guy just never stops. This is classic.
hopefully they´ll take his licence away, and we´ll never hear again from him. but this news defenitely made my day!
I LOVE that movie!
"Wake me up... when you see... a Radio Shack." :D
http://justicebuilding.blogspot.com/2008/02/rule-shmule.html
"Thompson is a competent lawyer with 31 years of continuous good standing within The Bar who has a string of victories against powerful corporate interests—the very interests who filed these SLAPP Bar complaints."
Did this quote make anyone else fall on the floor, and begin uncontrollably laughing for 30+ minutes? Because I sure as hell did. My sides are beyond any levels of "pain".
I'll take that bet. I don't believe anyone sane can take JT's place, it's a kind of special position, like a special white room with padded walls. If there were a sane and competent lawyer out there who was anti-video games I think he would've done something by now. I think even with JT throwing a tantrum and all, that a competent lawyer winning an anti-gaming case would draw all the attention away from JT and distance whatever lawyer managed to do so from all JT's craziness.
The reason we've not seen such happen is because there's no one out there who's sane, able to file such cases, and actually believe they should file such cases. There's only room for one crazy at a time up in JT's position and if another lawyer is going to follow JT's footsteps he's going to be crazy enough that they will have to wait their turn for the spot.
Maybe it's just because I've been reading Eisenhorn recently (WH40K book with an inquisitor as the main character), but I would love to see the court read the judgment like a statement of Diablous Extremis. Something along the line of "John Bruce Thompson, in the name of the whole of the Florida Bar, we find you guilty of xyz (everything he's done wrong and got caught for). In accordance with this ruling your license to practice law is now forfeit and you are hereby banned from continuing your personal vendetta against gamers, game producing companies, and stores that sell these games until you can provide evidence sufficient for this court that you have a real case against them signed and upheld by a competent lawyer. I declare this before the lady, blind though she is, may her scales always rightly weigh the wicked and the just forever." Granted the Diablous thing basically reads that you're an enemy to humanity and will be hunted to death, so the above is quite changed. Still the sort of grave ceremony attached to it might help drive the point home to JT. Then again maybe we can just get a time portal and pull Eisenhorn through time and space to do the real deal for JT.
You really should go read the whole story. That crazy f***er still seems to think he's got the upper hand, threatening and blustering against the Florida Bar Association like he's God f***ing Incarnate....
I'm curious to just what cases he thinks he won.
Also, did I miss a reason as to why his emails switch from first-person to self-narrative at random?
It's something all news agencies have but the question is will they throw his number away, ESPECIALLY after what happened with Mass Effect and EA with the people apologizing to EA and the creators after FINALLY looking at the the clip in question (not on air but still)
Every once in awhile, the legal system actually does something right. Bye Jack. We'll miss your shenanigans.
I cant accept the supreme comes down.What i suggest this case will be reconsider to court.
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