I'm thinking their motivation is still towards their bottom line. If they win this case, they get to put more music into video games, and I'm assuming (correct me if I'm wrong here) they get some cut of the sales their music goes into.

@ beacon80
As a fellow resident of California I must answer:

ITS FOR TEH CHILDRUNS!

Roads are for grownups and who reads anymore?

Yeah, like nightwng said... it was all cool, until the RIAA showed up. Still... nice to see someone who isn't responsible for video games, defending video games.

Its amazing there is court case with RIAA involved and I wasn't immediately filled with a sense of disgust. Seriously though I is nice to see that all of those different media groups understand that even this small step toward censorship could have repercussions for them down the line. It only takes one little piece of precedence for these sort of things to begin to snowball on you.

I feel it necessary to post this again:

"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." - Someone smarter than you, and me, and pretty much any living person today

"I’m thinking their motivation is still towards their bottom line. If they win this case, they get to put more music into video games, and I’m assuming (correct me if I’m wrong here) they get some cut of the sales their music goes into."

Does it really matter though? While they may be protecting their own interests, they're a *very* powerful group, and they're part of the "old" media that's more accepted.

I think that's the most positive thing out of this, is that we're finally getting the "old" media behind us...cuz they're right, if this passes it's not as much of a stretch to try and say that violent graphic novels should be banned or subject to fines for sales.

Do books have parental ratings???

Guessing they don't for fear of the rating that would be applied to the Bible.

IllegallyMindedJohn
Even if books were rated most religious martial would get a pass, so would documentaries and a few other genres.

I think we could rated all mediums and keep adult/mature media out of the hands of minors but...its like ending poverty and other good intention plans, humans will cock it up they always do.

MPAA made X it was baned changed to NC17 it was snubed, ESRB made AO its snubbed and baned by the industry, the BBFC,ect bans stuff by inaction or snubbing it.

only a sane society can bind media to the sale of minors and make it work without snubbing sanity.

IllegallyMindedJohn (interesting ID),
Technically, no.

But the Library of Congress, especially the National Library Service, has been putting some content labels in descriptions for audiobooks that they loan out.

While I have a wide reading range, sometimes, and I freely admit this, I DO look for books labeled "Explict Descriptions of Sex".

What? I'm an adult.

Do I think there should be a ratings system for reading material (books, newspapers, magazines, etc), sometimes I DO think so. A voluntary one like the ESRB or MPAA, but still one that Parents can look at and make their own decisions if they want to let their child read a particular book or not. On occasion, a Parent might want to give their child a more advanced book, and while searching books they aren't familiar with, at least a set of content descriptors would be helpful.

It would also help me track down the really perverse books to read/listern to... uh, did I say that out loud? ;)

I think some people, though, are afraid to go that route because of some of the outright blunt descriptors that would appear on some very well loved text. Like religious text for example. After all, how many would want their religious text labeled "Adult Only". And how much of an uproar would there be if one religion's text were described "negatively" while another was given the "soft touch"?

And even outside of religious text. Some excellent written text would, or could, be given some rather nasty descriptors.

Remember, the individual making such decisions has their own beliefs and even the general public could influence what is or is not described.

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software

Because things can be complicated, but helpful sometimes Calviin Nya.

@DeusPayne
I believe that quote is from Benjamin Franklin, but I could be wrong.

@Deyuspayne

“Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”

I would like to throw in this quote:

"The complexity of our modern civilization is subject to diminishing returns. Complex systems collapse when they have no way to get simpler other than collapse."

"The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less."

I agree seeing RIAA on anything that makes sense is a slightly strange set of events, but thankfully it's for a good thing. Alliteration aside, I think this could be a good sign for things to come and a warning for other lawmakers that look to do something against video games. Mess with the little guy, and his large group of large friends might mess with you.

Hopefully, this will encourage more organizations to realize that while this may start with video games, it could also head their way as well.

I don't like seeing the ECA and RIAA in the same sentence.

@Grizzam

you know come to think of it is does seem more like the apocolypse around here the signs have all been there.

Jack Thompson DOESN'T jump on the Mass Effect band wagon.
People who usually hate each other have come together to support Net Neutrality
The RIAA is actually on our side.

Anyone else think it may be a good idea to be on the lookout for four horsemen.

Whilst most of the Media industry cannot agree on how things should be done, there are a few facts on which they are all united. The RIAA know that any law like this would be a 'foot in the door' for censors. Whilst I don't agree with a great deal of the RIAA's practices, they could not realistically NOT oppoise this law. It is, however, interesting to note that the MPAA are somewhat missing from the form complaining about a law being appealed by Arnold Schwarzenegger. Anyone wan't to make any bets on why that might be? ;)

Seriously though, I'm quite pleased with the opposition to the bill. It's nice to see the old and new working together.