On Monday GamePolitics reported on a brewing video game controversy at Rensselaer Polytechnical Institute in Troy, New York.
The dust-up centered around objections by RPI's College Republicans organization to a planned exhibition by a visiting artist. Wafaa Bilal (left), an Iraqi who is on the faculty of the Art Institute of Chicago and whose brother was killed in the current war, was scheduled to present a hacked version of Night of Bush Capturing, an al Qaeda propaganda game at the campus.
Bilal's exhibit, however, has been canceled by RPI administrators over terrorism concerns as well as protests by some students and alumni. As reported by the Albany Times-Union, Bilal said:
It feels like a military camp, not an educational institution.
Bilal maintains that the intent of his exhibit is to show how U.S. strategy in Iraq has helped al Qaeda recruit new members.
Alumni Christopher Lozaga was among those who objected to Bilal's appearance:
So long as RPI sponsors these kinds of events, giving absolutely no consideration to military alumnus, friends and family of the university, I will not contribute a dime to the school.
On Wednesday Bilal was removed from an RPI classroom by administrators during a meeting with students. Said media arts professor Branda Miller:
It was very unsettling for me and my students. It would be unfortunate if Wafaa Bilal's art exhibition remains closed. The whole point of art is to encourage dialogue.
Bilal told the Times-Union that RPI officials, on orders from school president Shirley Ann Jackson, questioned him about the game mod and whether it portrayed an attack on President Bush. He was also told that federal law enforcement agencies, including the FBI, were planning to attend his exhibit.
While not commenting on Bilal's case specifically, an FBI official said:
I can state that there are situations where it would be appropriate for FBI agents to attend events which are open to the public if the FBI believes that there might be information relevant to national security. FBI agents can attend these events even if an investigation is not opened. But they would only report on information which is relevant to a threat to national security.'
RPI VP William Walker told the Times-Union:
The university is considering various factors relating to the exhibition, and has suspended it pending a more complete review of its origin, content, and intent. Rensselaer fully supports academic and artistic freedom. The question under review regards the use of university resources to provide a platform for what may be a product of a terrorist organization or which suggests violence directed toward the President of the United States and his family.
RPI student body president Julia Leusner added:
If Bilal was making a point about the vulnerability of Iraqi civilians to the travesties of the current war, I failed to see it, as did every other student I spoke to.
UPDATE: Newsday has picked up the story. Look for this to get some national attention. From Newsday:
"By taking [the exhibit] away, they destroyed the entire objective of it, which is conversation," Bilal said. "I think they're buying time as a tactic here, so they don't look bad. Let's call it what it is, censorship."
Bilal is no stranger to controversy. Some of his work was destroyed at an exhibition at the University of New Mexico, and he's also had government officials confiscate his work from an exhibit in Baghdad.
UPDATE 2: As expected, the RPI story has gone national. Here is Associated Press coverage in the Washington Post.
Comments
Well, "freedom of speech" squawking aside, I think this is where the controversy is. A lot of people are yammering and I'm not sure that more than a handful actually KNOW the content of the exhibit.
As i said, the terrorists have won.
It looks like she doesn't talk to very many people. Of all the people who said they attend school or had in the last article, most were supportive of hostign the exhibit.
So that is the real reason they pulled it. They were threatened with a loss of funding from donaters. I love that. Money rules high at RPI. Ooh. I should put that on a t-shirt.
Couldn't agree more.
Sad but true.
20 years ago, they would be sipping their wine, and nodding at his boldness in addressing a hard issue. Instead they're afraid he's a loose cannon...
I agree whole heartedly and have been saying that since 9/11. The Patriot Act is the perfect example of how the terrorists have won the war on terror.
For some reason, I really want to play this game now. Just because the government tells me I can't see it.
Well as much as soem may not like him, Carlos Mencia said it best.
"You may as well go ahead and mail your balls to them with a letter that says "Hey Mr. terrorist, you won, I'm terrified"
What this guy is saying isn't anything new, its just common sense and fact... it was seen in Northern Ireland back during the troubles there, it is seen still in Israel/Palastine on both sides, and its been seen in every country invaded for any reason, ever.
If you see your family killed, regardless of the reason, you will become angry.. human nature demands revenge.... and if someone offers you a way of getting it, you might very well take it.
The "War on Terror" is really just another form of this, a bunch of people got killed, so lets go to war to try and solve it.. doesn't work, didn't work in Northern Ireland, won't work in Israel, and won't work here.
RPI on the other hand is being kinda slimy and playing the 'We're not liberal! really! see! we love our troops and our beloved president!' card.
Excellent observation. The FBI, the freakin FBI for Pete's sake, are acting level headed in this situation, while an educational institution is way over blowing this deal.
As it has been for a while, prestigious and beneficial institutes such as hospitals, private schools, and colleges are businesses (and run as such).
You better believe they are pulling his exhibit, and not because he is a threat to National Security. His presence and work, which is good or bad by opinion only, can only result in the loss of money for RPI.
Business first.
Artistic appreciation, differential dialog, reputation, and dignity are in a distant last place.
If it were a matter of National Security, then someone is ignoring the most important principle from Sun Tzu:
"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle."
Anyone else think that "Night of Bush Capturing" sounds like some sleazy Japanese hentai game?
It's true that terrorist have terrified America, but have they truly won? Have we given up the fight to protect our boarders? Have given into Islamic extremist and given up our religion and way of life? No, I say no. We are still American's who fight for our rights and freedoms including free speech and expression as well as freedom for religion. Who are you to say they have won when the war has only just begun. I'm a former solider who fought in Iraq. I didn't fight to come home to a bunch of wimps who don't care about their freedoms.
N Thomson
Solider
Gamer
Student
A lot of you are complaining that the school is only concerned about money. Well, that is the school's business. Without funds the school will shut down, teachers will lose their jobs, and the students will lose an institution of learning. Haven't we advocated using your pocketbook to protest and censor rather than the government?
I'm not agreeing with this, but if the Alumni are threatening the school, they can either listen or declare bankruptcy.
The question is, what are the goals of terrorists? Have they managed to disrupt our way of life? Have they managed to convince our own government to restrict our liberties solely because of terrorist actions? Have they instilled in the American public a sense of fear that degrades their quality of life?
I think those are the ways in which people claim the terrorists "won" or "are winning". I don't see how those factors have anything to do with being "wimps", and it certainly doesn't imply that we "don't care about our freedoms".
I will say, however, that the current administration has absolutely done their best to amplify those feelings of insecurity and terror for their own personal gain. That's part of the problem, even while our government attempts to fight them militarily, it is simultaneously attempting to support them psychologically.
You're quite right, alumni influence should be a factor in the school's decision making process. I'm just disappointed with some of the (apparently vocal) alumni.
But without seeing the exhibit to judge its artistic value for myself, it's hard for me to decide whether or not I would want to support it, although my gut says that I don't want to see it canceled.
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We are still American’s who fight for our rights and freedoms including free speech and expression as well as freedom for religion.
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No, we don't fight for freedom of speech or religion. I guess those concepts aren't part of a "post 9/11 world". We fight only because we're still scared shitless. Because somehow meaningful political discourse in this country is a commercial with a menacing voice telling you to be afraid while your children sleep.
We lost when the government was granted unlimited and unsupervised power of surveillance on it's own people. We lost when an entire city shut down when mooninites caused mass hysteria. We lost when congress voted for a war without bothering to discuss the reasons why. We lost when we outlawed liquids on airplanes. We lost when we created the no-fly list.
We let fear get the better of us, and for that we lost. The only winners were politicians savvy enough to take advantage of that fear.
Besides, it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission.
I am not a "wimp". Icare about the troops and their families. I care about my freedoms and want to retain them.
Unfortunately the current admenistration has taken some of those liberties from me under the guise of the "war on terror". My fourth ammendment rights have been violated when the Patriot Act was passed. The government now has free reign to tap my phone and internet connection without judicial approval. I find that unsettling.
It is examples like that that show that the terrorists are winning the so called "war on terror"
Everytime Bush opens his mouth in defense of these bills and the war in Iraq, he tells us how we are going to die in terrorist attacks if we don't let him take those liberties away from us.
How is that not the terrorists winning?
I fail to see where in the constitution, or bill of rights, where it is said that you are garuanteed a platform for your views. RPI is perfectly with in IT'S right to deny Mr. Bilal access to it's facilities to show off his work.
Freedom of speech, is not freedom from the reaction to your speech.
Looking at 9/11 as a central event.. what effect has it had on global "western" society, beyond just America.
The world over, governments are restricting their people in the name of national security. Fear and paranoia is on the rise, and everywhere we are told to be on the look out and report anything we think might be strange. If we say that the goal of terrorism, is terror.. then they have certainly done a very good job. For whatever reasons, our own governments and media are only feeding this terror... be it because they truly believe we are in danger, or be it for their own gain, they are doing so.
But let us say that the goal of terrorists.. by which I mean the leaders, not the poor unfortunate souls who are so damaged by life and brainwashed by their leaders that they give their lives up and the lives of others in this way.. is not just to terrify their enemies, but to gain power.
If Power is their goal, and many would say it is, then they are also doing very well indeed.. and beyond just the obvious. 9/11 was the direct cause of the current war on terror.. the cause of the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, and of the current lack of support for a true process for peace in Palestine/Israel. Those who support these wars like to think that they will be able to destroy the terrorists, but it is just not that simple.. every father, every son, ever mother, every brother, every loved one that dies, has a chance of leaving behind someone who loved them and is now alone.. and each of those is a prime target for recruitment, in their grief and rage at the loss of somebody they loved.
This is why we will never defeat Al Queda by invading countries or killing people.. quite simply put, we cannot win the war against terror with traditional military tactics, not even with trade and financial measures.. this is a war of ideology, and it will only be won by changing the minds of those who the enemy traditionally recruits, by politics, by alliances and talking... and, as much as we hate to admit it, by careful surgical strikes that nobody ever knows about.
@ Lumi
I did say that they did make us scared, but that doesn't mean because we are scared we act solely out of total retaliation. We have given up some things to improve others, but didn't we do the same thing or something similar when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor? But yes there has been a couple of generations between that and now. Plus being in a Post 9/11 era doesn’t mean we have given up those freedoms. They maybe suspended on those who are suspected of terrorist activity. But other wise the rest of America isn’t much affected. We still have news papers printing there version of the story Fox News televising their view. We still have people going to Churches, Synagogues, and other places of religious gatherings. We still exercise the rights of speech and expression here without fear of Uncle Sam arresting us because we said or wrote something they didn’t like. But if you are in fear of that your just paranoid. Granted paranoia is more common since 9/11 but we shouldn’t let it run our lives.
N Thomson
Solider
Gamer
Student
Technically you're correct, but I think the real question is whether or not their decision was justified. Was there really anything in the exhibit to warrant canceling it? Did he really deserve to be pulled out of that classroom?
I think it's pretty obvious that the CRs never saw this exhibit before raising all this fuss.
"Who are you to say ... "
Yeah... that pretty much sums up the whole justification of the war right there.
Pretty much the usual "We're over there fighting for your Freedoms so SHUT UP! You don't have the Right to speak in opposition of what's going on or being told by the 'approved" messages of the government."
Yep. This war really makes sense. :/
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
" Rensselaer fully supports academic and artistic freedom. "
These two comments are in direct opposition to each other.
Hey, I agree that the reason this exhibit got pulled was probably financial. I just wish they'd stop pretending they supported freedom of speech in the same breath.
I'm afraid you miss the fundamental contradiction in your post. You claim that America still has it's rights of free speech and freedom of expression. Yet you admit that the freedom is restricted to those suspected of Terrorist activity. saying, "But other wise the rest of America isn’t much affected. "
I take it 'The Rest' means the non-arab, members of america?
If so, don't you realise that by making one rule for one segment of the country's population you've already sacrificed the freedom of your citizens?
Also what exactly is a Solider? is that some sort of adhesive polymer agent? or was spelling not a high priority on the US Army entry exam?
And this is where I believe the controversy should be. Over whether his work constituted an eminent threat, whether his work is 'art' that NY state and RPI wished to fund and give a platform to, NOT about the "freedom of speech" that people think is an all encompasing right to say what ever you want with-out reprisal.
Freedom of speech is about letting you say what ever you want with out criminal charges being applied, not about preventing people from hating your guts for saying it.
"you are technically correct, the best kind of correct." - futurama
"We have given up some things to improve others, but didn’t we do the same thing or something similar when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor?"
If you're going to bring up Pearl, at least make sure the reaction was the same.
The US government is behaving more like during the McCarthy era. "Are you or have you ever been a Muslim?"
The point of terrorism is to use a country's public against them. In that essence, the terrorists HAVE won. You're willing to give up certain freedoms in order to achieve the illusion of safety from the terrorists. But the terrorists know that all they need to do is yell "boo", and your country practically wets itself in the dive for cover. So really while you're safer from the Reids, and other small-time, wannabe, ineffective idiots who do things like bring guns to the airport, you're no safer from the "real" terrorists, the competent ones who spend 5-10 years putting together sleeper cells to pull off 9/11...
This is a classic example of public panic. The mere mention of art that examines the issue of the vulnerability of Iraqis to recruitment, and suddenly everyone's running around like it'll cause 9/11 times 100 (that's 91,100 btw... ;) TA:WP ftw!)
Character assassination is not particularly attractive
"Over whether his work constituted an eminent threat, whether his work is ‘art’ that NY state and RPI wished to fund and give a platform to, NOT about the “freedom of speech” that people think is an all encompasing right to say what ever you want with-out reprisal."
You're right. It's not freedom of speech. It's about an educational institution (or more importantly, it's financial backers) that claim to support artistic freedom, clamping down on an artist.
It's the principle of the thing. Educational institutions are supposed to be places where artists can push the boundaries without being told they are going "too far". Obviously the alumni have forgotten this.
@ all
Thank you for your correction of the spelling of Soldier, but none the less your missing my point to enforce the security of our freedoms and rights sometimes we have to give them up to get them back. Yes we still have them. I'm not making this a religous bias or racial bias discussion, that's not the point here. The fact that he is presenting a hacked version of a game regaurdless of who made it and it's content is a large concern. Would you as a board member of a school allow one of your professors of your school allow some one to make a presentation with illegal owned software. Would your ethics as a board member allow you to let it continue? Mine would not reguardless of what is being presented.
N Thomson
Soldier
Gamer
Student
Also, it looks as if this is a travelling exhibit , which means the content of the work would have been visible before getting to RPI.
The exhibit sounds, to me, like a way to see through the "enemy's" point of view. Now I put "enemy" in quotes like that because as we know quite well, defining the "enemy" at this point in time is like trying to contain a fart in a jar.
It's not like back in World War II where the enemies were the clearly defined Nazi (or is the plural "Nazis") of Germany? They had uniforms, insignia, and were damn proud of being who they were. Granted, they were also damn proud of purifying the human race to meet their warped belief system.
I had an interesting discussion with people on another forum who do not believe in the concept of "Evil". They believe that what Evil can not exist as a "True Evil" because what may be Evil to us, is another culture's Good. Case in point, the Nazi (Nazis) believed that they were doing the greater good by following Hitler and exterminating all other non-aryan races. In this case, the Radical Muslims (and I do mean Radical as not all Muslims think this way) believe that what they are doing by fighting America is for their greater good.
Now from what I can tell, the whole notion of this exhibit was to give us, the people of the USA, a chance to see things from the Radical Muslim's point of view and try to understand WHY they thought they are fighting the good fight and why they think they are fighting for truth, justice, and the non-national way.
BUT NOOOOOOO!
Apparently some people got a stick of patriotism so far shoved up their bum that they can't be bothered to think what other people think. It is too much of a challenge to their beliefs that if they were ever to doubt our own "goodness" that their entire society would crumble and the terrorists would win.
To this, I reply with a smack across the head, a smack across the back of the head, a good shaking, and a loud "GET OVER IT!" I would then proceed to take them to the exhibit for a chance to widen their horizons.
Now as far as the FBI are concerned, they just want to make sure there's no sensitive information in this exhibit. Stuff such as actual real life pass codes, blueprints of real world buildings, detailed plans to take down our government, or build bombs.
That stuff is illegal for a reason!
But say I make a game where I'm a super-cyborg or robot with an unlimited supply of ammo and Secret Service agents all happen to drop missiles that are automatically loaded into my missile turret once I step on said dropped missile. I go on a rampage, blow away planes, hell let's say I have rocket boosters that let me fly. I single-handedly decimate D.C., blow up the White House with a couple missiles and bullets, and then grab W. with a mechanized robo-arm and crush him while doing the "I'm crushing your head" bit.
A game like that is pure fantasy and in no way related to anything in real life. It may just be one person's way of venting at the current administration by imagining to be this near-invincible robot who single-handedly blows everything up.
The controls are "Up, Left, Down, Right, Jump, Shoot" with up and shoot launching missiles. Except in flying levels where missiles are infinite and smart bombs that wipe out the screen are finite.
Oh sure, this will teach terrorists how to build a super robot and go on to destroy D.C.! (Sarcasm)
Finally, I do not deny that there is propaganda out there. Whether it be "enemy" propaganda or Patriotic propaganda, it's still propaganda, and by STUDYING said propaganda, we LEARN from it, see through the eyes of others, and gain a level of clairvoyance.
I say let the exhibit go and just let bygones be bygones.
Sheesh!
~Otaku-Man
"It’s the principle of the thing. Educational institutions are supposed to be places where artists can push the boundaries without being told they are going “too far”. Obviously the alumni have forgotten this. "
Funny, I thought they were for-profit institutions devoted to providing education to a paying customer.
The students and the alumni are voting in the most dirrect way they can, their donations.
Why aren't they allowed their freedom of speech in saying "We do not support this?"
Why aren’t they allowed their freedom of speech in saying “We do not support this?”
They ARE allowed their freedom of speech. They have every right to say, when they give money, this money can't fund this or that. The thing is, the school invited the artist to do lectures and if he's invited he should be given the freedom to lecture as he sees fit, no matter what groups it offends.
"The fact that he is presenting a hacked version of a game regaurdless of who made it and it’s content is a large concern."
Are you seriously trying to twist this discussion into a discussion of the LEGALITY of a MOD?
You have got to be kidding me.
Irregardless of the way he produced his piece, the fact is they are objecting to the subject matter, not the means. If he had produced this game by hand, from scratch, you can bet the Republican students union would still have their panties in a knot about this...
He could have animated it with pencil and crayon, and they'd still be screaming about it.
"Funny, I thought they were for-profit institutions devoted to providing education to a paying customer."
I guess that would depend on RPI's stated goals, especially the stated goals of it's art department.
Is it an institution where the only goal is to churn out educated members of society ready for the workforce? Or is it an institution that has among it's goals the encouragement of radical thinking towards advancing fields of thought?
If they're going to get pissy about what kind of art gets produced there, why bother having an art department?
I couldn't dissagree more.
This is exactly what I've been saying. He's angered their paying customers, who have said "We will stop paying you, till you stop presenting this matereal."
If RPI wishes to continue because they believe the message is important enough that they're willing to lose paying customers, that is their RIGHT. Not their obligation as many are suggesting.
"Honestly I fail to see how this is ‘Art’ or how he contributed to the discussion. He put his face in a game that someone else made. Wow. The original product brings up serious questions about the war and public relations from opposite sides of the conflict. Sticking his face in it does not add to this, and attempting to justify it by saying that he’s attempting to bring up commentary on the suffering of average Iraqis doesn’t hold water to me."
Serious question: have you seen the exhibit? Do you know what's in it?
"Funny, I thought they were for-profit institutions devoted to providing education to a paying customer."
Part of that education they're supposed to be providing is the atmosphere of the campus, the opportunity to experience and be exposed to things they couldn't get elsewhere. Students can get "an education" at any of countless colleges and universities; they choose their schools based on many additional factors, not the least of which includes the attitude of the school at large toward important issues.
"The students and the alumni are voting in the most dirrect way they can, their donations."
You're correct, but I think that people are overlooking the fact that there are probably at least as many students and alumni who will be voting the opposite way with their donations as well.
@ N Thomson
"The fact that he is presenting a hacked version of a game regaurdless of who made it and it’s content is a large concern."
Why exactly is that?
"Would you as a board member of a school allow one of your professors of your school allow some one to make a presentation with illegal owned software."
Illegally owned? How do you figure that?
"Would your ethics as a board member allow you to let it continue?"
I can tell you that in 2005, one of the games at the RPI Game Symposium was a Half-Life mod. I can also tell you there are a HELL of a lot more copies of Half-Life floating around that campus than there are registration keys for it. Should the gaming curriculum fail them for using a pirated copy (illegally owned software) to create a mod (hack) as a part of their class project, regardless of the educational or artistic value of said mod?
"They ARE allowed their freedom of speech. They have every right to say, when they give money, this money can’t fund this or that."
As I said, it kinda betrays the principle of the institution. If you are attaching conditions to your donation, then you don't really believe in the principle most educational art institutions are founded on.
Funding the arts is tricky that way.
I can understand not wanting your donations to fund the art department, but if you agree the money can be used for art, then really it seems a rather sad restriction to limit the kind of art, or the range of ideas allowed to be expressed...
If we had just ignored them after cleaning up New York, we would be a freer, happyier place. Terrorists don't attack to kill people, they attack to incite fear, to create change. To fight them would mean refusing to change, refusing to fear. Instead we have enacted a ton of new laws, beefed up check points in our airports, and regularly are reminded by the government about how scared we should be, "We are now at threat level tangerine, report your neighbor if he has excess facial hair!"
I won't say the terrorists have won the war, but they certainly won that battle. They have a whole country quaking even though they don't have many weapons, not much of an army, or indoor plumbing in their caves.
I'm not afraid of the terrorists anymore. I'm afraid to fly because of the airlines. Airports and airlines might as well be another country, seeing as how laws are different there, you have to pass through customs, and they hate foriengers (to be clear about this, I'm not talking non-Americans, I'm talking non-Airliners).
"As I said, it kinda betrays the principle of the institution. If you are attaching conditions to your donation, then you don’t really believe in the principle most educational art institutions are founded on.
Funding the arts is tricky that way.
I can understand not wanting your donations to fund the art department, but if you agree the money can be used for art, then really it seems a rather sad restriction to limit the kind of art, or the range of ideas allowed to be expressed… "
Eh, it is really, REALLY a stretch to refer to RPI as an "education art institution". RPI is an engineering school; the art department has seen HUGE advances in just the last few years, since Shirley Ann took over. In a nutshell, the whole art thing is new there.
That said, I'd have no problem with someone making a donation and saying "this is only to be used for math" or "this is only to be used for electronic art" or "this is only to be used for purchasing akido mats for the union club that meets every Monday and Thursday night" (though at that point you should probably just buy the mats yourself and donate those). But there's a ton of room between "you must use this money for this" and "you may use this money for anything except for an Iraqi art exhibit".
Earmarking donations is a really common thing, it doesn't bother me too much, really.
"Are you seriously trying to twist this discussion into a discussion of the LEGALITY of a MOD?"
I suggested no such thing, I said that I don't believe he added any meaningful benefit to the discussion with his work. I was commenting on his 'art' not the legality/acceptability of his exhibit
I also agree that it is important to make folks outside of military circles (read: the public) aware that military action of any kind is NOT cut-n-dry simple work. I think that it is important that the general public understand the delicate and difficult position that this (not just Bush) and several previous administrations have put the US into.
Overall, I do think that his core message should be heard. However, it sounds like the way that he's delivering his message is flawed at best.
"If Bilal was making a point about the vulnerability of Iraqi civilians to the travesties of the current war, I failed to see it, as did every other student I spoke to." --RPI student body president Julia Leusner
That statement is where my concern lies. We all know what Bilal is saying his message is, but is that the same message that is actually being delivered? We can all argue about supposed slights to a person's freedom of speech, about how it's just another case of 'the man keeping the little guy down'. But really, has anyone considered (at least for a second) that maybe Bilal might have intentionally or unintentionally misrepresented his work?
Just tossing some questions out there that looked like folks aren't asking.
Stop throwing around the Free Speech argument, both sides.
This isn't about free speech. They aren't banning the game, they aren't burning or deleting all copies. They simply said "Sorry, you can't hold your exhibition on our private property." He still has his freedom of speech.
And the other side, claiming that disagreeing with their closure was suggesting violating the freedom of speech of the people funding that school. That is so off base it isn't even funny.
This is exactly like that idiot who was losing his talk show for being an idiot, and people were saying that it violates his freedom of speech to take him off the air.
Please, before the next person starts waving the freedom of speech flag, look it up. Understand that freedom of speech doesn't mean you have a right to anothers venue or medium. You freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to express yourself by painting over someone elses masterpiece, because that doesn't belong to you. You are allowed to express yourself, but there are limits. For example, you aren't allowed to carve your manefesto into the skin of random people. You can't jsut start cussing or stripping on live TV. You will get prosecuted.
Exactly. It's up to RPI to choose what they want to present as part of the education, because that is their right. Not their obligation.
One thing that they find frustrating is american's generally completely miss the point of the entire terror champain. Terror is the weapon, not the end goal (in the same way killing people in a war is generally the method to win, not the original goal, unless it is a champain of genocide of course). While rhetoric might include 'kill americans! kill america!' that is little more then speeches and pep talk. Think about the equivalent 'I'm gonna go kill some commies!' from the cold war.
Their end goals usually include things like ending US support for Israel and removing US military bases from Saudi Arabia. As long as both of those conditions are not met then the terrorists have most defiantly not 'won' in any real sense of the word.
Well, the game is about people recruited to kill Bush. Baiscally, a game about being a terrorist. This guy put his head on that character. The message seems pretty clear that he easily sees how he himself could become a terroist. Seems pretty clear to me.
If my brother were killed (as his was), I could see having the same attitude. What I don't see is who killed his brother. If his brother was collateral damage from a direct US strike, or killed in the general lawlessness following the invasion, one could reasonably hold the US responsible. If it were me, and I had a chance at revenge against the the offending party, I would certainly consider taking it. That's your family. Family is more important than country, that's for sure.
I think it's pretty obvious that for every Iraqi killed, there is a whole family of potential terrorists / enemies. Making this point should be pretty much common sense. I don't see anything even controversial about it. We wanted blood after the twin towers attack, why should we find it somehow controversial that anyone else would react any differently to their loved ones being killed? By putting his head in the game, I think he would make that point pretty plainly.
The only controversy here is that it does shed light on the fact that we are responsible for killing many civilians in Iraq, and are responsible for the creation of some terrorists. To me that all seems like common sense, something we should expect to happen if we choose to go to war. That is something that should have been well known and discussed in the open before making the vote to go to war.
Why there is any controversy here confuses me. We can go to war, kill people, yet we cannot talk about the repercussions of doing so? Seems like we are forcing our own heads into the sand here.
"I suggested no such thing, I said that I don’t believe he added any meaningful benefit to the discussion with his work."
Whoops! Sorry, I must have had a brain fart there. I think I was trying to respond to the "contributed nothing new, questioning whether it's art" train of thought, and then got derailed by the legality of the mod comment N Thomson made.
@lumi
"That said, I’d have no problem with someone making a donation and saying “this is only to be used for math” or “this is only to be used for electronic art” or... But there’s a ton of room between “you must use this money for this” and “you may use this money for anything except for an Iraqi art exhibit”. Earmarking donations is a really common thing, it doesn’t bother me too much, really."
I think that's the core problem though. People have made donations, and were going to make donations, in general, to RPI, under the understanding that some was to go to the art department (or they would have earmarked it differently), but they're stuck in the "I support the arts, but not THAT kind." So they really *are* saying "you may use this for anything except an Iraqi art exhibit". And I think that's a sad way to support the arts.
@Artifex
"That statement is where my concern lies. We all know what Bilal is saying his message is, but is that the same message that is actually being delivered? ... But really, has anyone considered (at least for a second) that maybe Bilal might have intentionally or unintentionally misrepresented his work?"
Does it matter? He's trying to convey an idea. Is it no longer art just because some members of the audience don't "get it"? Granted he should tweak his delivery a bit (maybe it's a bit too obscure to understand without explanation?), but I don't think that's a valid criteria for deciding whether it's a valid statement or not.
1. Private people stopped donating to a college because they didn't like a piece of art on display there.
2. Students didn't want to see a particular piece of art on display at their college.
People donating to a college stopped because they didn't support something. Okay, I can see that. If I'm donating money to a place, and that place starts creating art that goes against my values, whether they be religious, political, moral, etc, I would stop funding it. That's easy. Sure, it may be economic censorship, but it's not the people's job to get airtime for a cause they don't support. So the first issue isn't that people stopped donating. It's a little less complex than that.
The issue lies in whether or not the donating parties have seen the art. If they have, and they withdraw their money, all right then. You're going to have to find a new venue.
However, if the donating parties have not seen the art, and they withdraw on reflex, that's the problem. You need to see what you're (not) funding before deciding how to sort your contributions.
For the students who are complaining, I have a really simple, easy-to-understand answer: If something offends you, don't go. Really. I doubt exposure to a game is going to turn the entire student body into terrorists. If that's all it took, I'd have Rambo'd my way through most of North America by now.
To sum up my opinion on this...
1. The investors in the college need to see the art, so they know where their money is going. If they refuse, then they are the people we should be mad at. If they see it, and still don't donate, then bummer. The guy is going to have to find a new place to show his art. I'd suggest the internet.
2. A group students shouldn't be able to chase someone off campus. If they don't like something, they can just not go.
3. The feds don't really have anything to do with this, except that their actions have created the environment we live in. To be honest, the FBI are the most rational about this: "We'll check it out and investigate if there's a problem."
I'm sure I've over-simplified this to some extent (Yay for understatements!), but I spent the morning reviewing recursion. Feel free to point out my foolishness in trying to make a molehill out of a mountain.
I totally agree. Others don't. They've decided that they don't like his 'art' and don't want their tax, and tuition, money funding it.
I personally think the game itself is worth exploring and talking about. His 'art' of sticking his face in the game seems like taking Casablanca and dubbing your voice over one of the characters and saying you've created something people should talk about. Art? Maybe. Interesting and thought provoking? Not so much.
Unfortunately, we have degenerated, once again, into the ridiculous right/left, right/wrong, hippie/warmonger tripe conversations again.
An institution makes it's own rules, and money talks. So what? The guy gets more publicity for his silly reskinning of a crappy game, and gets his message out all the same. So what? I amazed that this issue got even a raised eyebrow outside of this campus. National issue, I think not.
N Thomson, I want to thank you for your sevrvice to our country. I want to make sure you understand that I appreciate, and support my military in any way I can. A few of my close friends are actively on duty in Iraq and Afganistan. My opinion of the war comes from the high regard I have for those indivuals, and what they tell me they accomplished.
But, please understand that not everyone who doesn't support the current war is a terrorist sympathizer who hates our country and troops.
Also, the idea that citizens should EVER relinquish freedoms to our government is 100% contrary to what this country was founded on. And is opposite to what we are currently fighting for. We have given Iraqis a taste of freedom at the cost of our own blood. Why? Because our freedoms are worth dying for. I refuse to accept that our government is taking away freedom while fighting to protect the very same.
Way to go RPI! What are you going to censor next?
“Who are you to say … ”
Yeah… that pretty much sums up the whole justification of the war right there.
Pretty much the usual “We’re over there fighting for your Freedoms so SHUT UP! You don’t have the Right to speak in opposition of what’s going on or being told by the ‘approved” messages of the government.”
Yep. This war really makes sense. :/"
QFT
"your missing my point to enforce the security of our freedoms and rights sometimes we have to give them up to get them back. Yes we still have them."
I completely disagree with that. The facts are that we have lost our rights, specifically our fourth amendment right protecting against search without warrents and probable cause. There is no denying that BushCo has set the nets extremely wide, and hasn't bothered getting the necessary legal proceedings to back it up.
Once rights are given up, they are much harder to get back. That is why we must safeguard them so carefully in the first place.
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security - Ben Franklin
smeagol23
Navy Vet
Gamer
Engineer
I.)Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
to be honest i have zero complaints about this stance on the mater, if the person has complaints about the exhibits it's fully his right to voice them and withdraw his funding, he is voting with his wallet, obviously several other people also complained and the school closed the exhibit
"I think that’s the core problem though. People have made donations, and were going to make donations, in general, to RPI, under the understanding that some was to go to the art department (or they would have earmarked it differently), but they’re stuck in the “I support the arts, but not THAT kind.” So they really *are* saying “you may use this for anything except an Iraqi art exhibit”. And I think that’s a sad way to support the arts."
Well, I seriously have to wonder if this is just a case of the minority being very loud. One alum is quoted as saying he's withdrawing funding. How much funding was that one alum providing? And one group, the College Republicans, expressed dissatisfaction with the school's decision to host the exhibit.
Again, without having any numbers, my gut says the majority of the RPI community had no problem with this, but isn't bothering to say so.
He has that right, certainly. I think it's just a matter of people disagreeing with his reasoning for withdrawing his donation.
Yeah... that makes absolutely no logical sense... except to the oppresors who will be allowed to say whatever they want. But it's the oppositon who must "give them up". After all, it's the ones in FAVOR of the war who are the ones telling others to give up THEIR speech. The supporters' speech is "approved" speech.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
The thing is, you can't fight terror with ignorance. The best way to fight terror is through education. We don't have to agree with it's message but we ought to at least have the right to hear it.
What exactly is the fear here? If I see this game, will I realize that what my government is doing is abhorrent. If so, then the problem is not the game but the government, and we have more effective methods of changing our government than blowing people up.
Terrorists recruit from the poor and opressed. Do we have too many poor and oppressed in this country? If so, again it's the fault of our government.
I'm sorry, but I see no moral reason why this exhibit should be banned, especially by an institution that claims to believe in the freedom of speech.
And as for the comments made about cutting some freedoms to protect the people, I believe Chavez is using that same line as well as several hundred other dictators throughout history. It sounds reasonable, but it always ends the same.
"Well, I seriously have to wonder if this is just a case of the minority being very loud. "
A valid question. If it's true, one wonders if RPI can be swayed by one minor vocal group. I mean they canceled the exhibit. So either they put a lot of stock in what minority groups say, or they're terrified (ha!) that this will spill over to other investors/benefactors.
"A valid question. If it’s true, one wonders if RPI can be swayed by one minor vocal group. I mean they canceled the exhibit. So either they put a lot of stock in what minority groups say, or they’re terrified (ha!) that this will spill over to other investors/benefactors. "
I emailed one of my professors there earlier today when I first read this article to ask him about it. He said that it wasn't canceled; in fact, he said it "went off without a hitch". He also said that Bilal being "removed from an RPI classroom" was just a brief conference in the hallway during which he was asked some questions. It's not like he was cuffed and led off campus amidst shouts of "And don't come back!"
I don't think this was actually as big a deal as it is being made out to be, at least from what I heard.
"I emailed one of my professors there earlier today when I first read this article to ask him about it. He said that it wasn’t canceled"
Is there a campus news site that has covered this? Or are we just relying on the Albany Times-Union?
I did a search of the campus newspaper's online archives, and browsed the most recent edition manually, but I found nothing. Not sure who else may have covered it.
Apparently teachers were permitted to take their students, but the exhibit was "closed to the public" by order of RPI's President.
http://chicanafeliz.com/vlog/?p=508
maybe should update it too
“It is entirely seemly for a young man killed in battle unrecognized by a bomb blast. In his death all things appear fair.” - Neo Homer
I remember not to long ago a video was create where you can assassinate Saddam Hussein and that was accepted but as soon as you start playing the "Bad Guy" its all wrong.
I am heavy critic of Media, mainly looking at the communicative abilities of the media. There are 2 great and well know movies that are similar in store line (from what I have read), The Last Samurai and Dances with Wolves. The main difference between this story and those movies are the foreign factor.
In Dances with Wolves and Last Samurai, So one from America goes and visits a society that is losing its culture, land, people, and way of life. In Dances with Wolves, it was the Native Americas; in the Last Samurai it was the Japanese.
For those that do not know the plot synopsis, The foreigner (American) down on his luck some how gets Assigned to a far off outpost. Some how gets integrated with society of the people in that outpost. Learns their way of life, culture and etc. Then learns stands up for them and willing to fight in their battle against the people the foreigner's former associates.
I dont know about you, but if I were an American and saw that person doing that my immediate though is traitor. But then during the course of the movie they provide context to the point where the audience does not believe traitor. They are left with the belief that the foreigner is doing the right thing. But was it really? It all depends on what side of the fence you stand on.
The main difference I see in this game, is that the person is not a foreigner but of the culture and of the culture and willing to fight against those that killed his brother. Is he right? Again it all depends on what side of the fence you are on.
And for those who say it is the schools right and that they will lose money, well I say this what is the purpose of a school? Is it to turn a profit? Or is to educate, provide a place for discourse, and to learn?
Yes a school cant run without money but if the schools objective is turn a profit, they might as well stop calling it a school but a business. If I go to a school that is for-profit, they better be paying me to attend when they start to claim what I do there as theirs.
side note
I am just wondering when the Movie about the Iraq losing its way and having some foreigner help them out. I am surprise that made it about Japan especially after all the propaganda in WWII.
Gift.
And as I stated in the comments of the previous article, I (just like the Student President Julia Leusner) failed to see how the mod was relevant to the "message" Bilal claimed he was making. If the mod was anything close to what the original game was like, then it wouldn't have highlighted the atrocities the Iraqi people face in this war. The original game was mostly just a run-and-gun involving killing US troops and reaching the President. Did Bilal mod in scripted scenes of Iraqis suffering? Or did he just say, "hey, my brother was killed, time for revenge!"
Opinion pieces are fine, and it's great to generate awarness and dialog, but it really should make sense. Freedom of speech works a whole lot better when you use common sense to create your message.
The event was canceled and the Times Union was notified via a press release at 5:18PM yesterday, some of which was included in the article you are all referencing.
Actually, despite what the press release said (about investigating the intent of the game, etc.), a large reason for canceling the exhibit after the major event was because of the conversation that had been generated following Mr. Bilal's presentation and unveiling of the game.
As for the FBI part, much of that stemmed from something Bilal said; I believe it was that he had a "suspicion" there were "undercover FBI agents" at his presentation. So far, no one has been able to substantiate this. Also keep in mind that Bilal's only other major, controversial artwork involved him getting shot by a paintball gun repeatedly for a month while he stayed on one room (go to YouTube and put in a few key words, like his name and "Paintball Project" if you want to see any videos from it)--and he has recently admitted to reporters that ever since he did that, he has not been able to sleep at all and needs to take medication anytime he does. That paintball project happened back in July. I mention this because while I might not be an artist, I'm pretty sure it doesn't entail injuring yourself to the point of causing permanent damage or ripping a computer game off of a terrorist organization (without changing the basic point of the game) who hacked it from an American student.
As for the student body President--she was right about there being little or no student interest; I know she asked one of my friends and he had no clue that event was even happening, not to mention RPI students aren't all that into art. The auditorium was about half full, but I know some students were required by their professors to attend for a specific class, and a good amount of the people in attendance weren't students.
A final point that may be of interest to you guys--RPI and the State of New York were funding Bilal to visit for over a week...my guess would be that his plane ticket, board, meals, additional travel expenses, and possibly an honorarium (usually several hundred dollars), were covered, and that can get really costly. At least some of this money originated from tuition paid by RPI students.
I hope this helps clear up some things. If you have any specific questions, I might be able to answer them. The campus newspaper here isn't known for doing any kind of investigative journalism...or journalism at all, really, so I'm not surprised you didn't find anything, lumi.
The only thing I have to say, is that I'm sad that the RPI admins decided to nix the whole thing. It's a real shame. Not that I don't understand their position, but it's still a shame.
Eh, the Poly is what its current staff puts into it. There was some noteworthy journalism during my four years.
What was it about the post-presentation conversation that unnerved people so? There's a great dearth of first hand knowledge here right now, which is frustrating (at least to me).
"The 1st amendment is freedom of speech as it pertains to being stiffled BY THE GOVERNMENT. Keep that one in mind at all times folks thank you for playing."
Saying that this a violation of his constitutional right to freedom of speech is different than saying that the institute does not support freedom of speech. The concept of supporting freedom of speech is the idea of allowing others to say what they want to say; the best way to put it "i may not agree with what you say but i will defend to the death your right to say it". RPI in this case is not allowing the artist to say what he wants to say. No laws have been broken, the constitution has not been violated, but the concept of "freedom of speech" has still been slapped in the face. If you don't like what is being said then don't listen, but you should not stop the artist from speaking... cover your ears, not their mouth
"Opinion pieces are fine, and it’s great to generate awarness and dialog, but it really should make sense. Freedom of speech works a whole lot better when you use common sense to create your message."
Unfortunately when it comes to art, the difference between crappy obtuse art and refined often comes down to how much effort the audience is willing to put into interpreting the piece. Build enough status or personalty cult around an artist and anything they produce will be hailed as high art ^_~
"If you don’t like what is being said then don’t listen, but you should not stop the artist from speaking… cover your ears, not their mouth"
Well, they're not stopping him from speaking, they're allegedly saying "we don't want you speaking on our private property". Which is their right. RPI was only one stop along a tour he's apparently making with this exhibit.
I agree that it isn't a denial of freedom of speech.
They invited him, because some people wanted them to, but when they realised that they would have to fire some teachers and cut some classes do to the outrage of their paying customers and donors, they decided that canceling his apearence now would lose them far less money than if they had let him present his content.
Personally I don't see how his mod is bad, but I haven't seen it. It could be harmless or it could be incitement to harm a the president...I don't know till I see it, which I intend to as soon as it is available...
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This has nothing to do with free speech being killed or terrorist winning or losing, all this has to do with is that our country is owned and run by businesses and corporations and bleeding hearts...
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That is a bad thing, but it has nothing to do with most of the issues raised above....
It's like when people on the internet get mad at a forum admin for locking a thread or deleting a post. The forum is paid for by someone, and that someone has the right to regulate what is shown on their site. It's really no different for art exhibits and the like.
And let's be honest here. There are only a handful of colleges in the US that would seriously censor anti-war sentiment. At my old college, they had a whole art exhibit which included several photographs of Iraqi bombed out buildings and citizens cowering before US troops with guns. The very atrocities that Bilal said he wanted to highlight. Those photographs were up for the entire two months of the exhibit, and nobody even blinked or said they were inappropriate. So it's not like there's a big "campus conspiracy" to quell anti-war rhetoric.
All in all, I don't see this as a censorship issue.
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Neeneko wrote:
"Unfortunately when it comes to art, the difference between crappy obtuse art and refined often comes down to how much effort the audience is willing to put into interpreting the piece. Build enough status or personalty cult around an artist and anything they produce will be hailed as high art ^_~ "
Aha! I knew it must be my fault somehow. I'm just not trying hard enough to "understand" Bilal's piece. ^_^
But seriously, I've always had a problem with a lot of modern expressions of art, because I've always believed that the best art speaks for itself. I mean, if Bilal wasn't there to provide the context for us, and tell us what we should be feeling about his piece, would the average person be able to figure it out? I honestly don't know what I'm supposed to feel when I hear he let himself get shot with paintballs for a month.
"The university has every right to decide who they invite or un-invite."
Agreed.
But they shouldn't expouse their belief in free speech with the same breath. If they came out and said, "We feel a responsibility to our community to spend our school finances on work we deem to have a greater artistic value." I don't think it would make people so angry.
@Jabrwock - I agree with your position.
@Smeagol - On the money brother.
@RPIer - thanks for the info.
And everyone has no problem
But he just displays an exhibbit highlighing a Videogame about the same issue, and he gets criticised and his exhibbit gets banned or gets FBI agents on him...
And it seems that everyone embraces Movies but everyone is afraid of Videogames...
Been there, done that....
Same old news...
true the greater point of terrorism is to change the average persons life in some way, anything after that s gravy.
The terrorists have given the US government everything they need to set democracy back 100 years.
"relevant to national security". more like "relevant to our upcoming police state"
http://warandvideogames.typepad.com/blog/2008/03/wafaa-bilal-int.html
On the other hand, he may have screwed up when trying to prove his point in his work.
"Programmed by a team from Al-Qaeda's Global Islamic Media Front, Night of Bush Capturing is in fact a modded version of an older, US-made game, Quest for Saddam, released by Petrilla Entertainment in 2003. Al-Qaeda's coders swapped out the artwork and textures of this earlier game - made with the Torque Game Engine - replacing the crude representations of Arab soldiers and anti-Islamic propaganda for equally crude versions of American soldiers and anti-American propaganda. This straightforward re-skin turned what was intended to be a rallying, pro-Iraq war game into a diametrically-opposed (but curiously symmetrical) attack on George Bush, his foreign policy and the nation behind his presidency."
TAKEN FROM EUROGAMER.NET > http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=128537&page=1
It's an intresting comment that neither the games politics artical nor that in the washington post made any refference to this.
As for the whole government stealing our rights, this isn't new. It happens every single time there is a major conflict. The government gains greater control over civil liberties, and they are eventually returned. It happened with Lincoln and the Civil War (who, by the way, exercised far greater abuses of executive power than George Bush has ever dreamed of), it happened with World War II and the Japanese internment camps, it happened with the red scare. Compared to rounding up thousands of our civilians, seizing all their property and jailing them for years or having the government censor all of the media to prevent anti-war sentiment from building up, or sending federal troops to disband a state legislature to prevent them from voting on a bill anything being done today is hardly calamitous. Already, some of the more ridiculously unconstitutional aspects of the patriot act were not renewed. The rights will return in time; they always have before, and I see no reason they will not again. Just my take on why I am not particularly worried. And as for the terrorists? Not particularly terrorized. We faced down the soviet union for decades with the distinct possibility of starting the apocalypse. These guys live in caves with no plumbing. Im not exactly quaking in my boots here. Its all a matter of perspective, and history.