This is the second part of an investigative series that Miami attorney Jack Thompson apparently doesn't want you to read.
The game industry nemesis today threatened GamePolitics and its parent company, the Entertainment Consumers Association (ECA) with legal action over GP's detailed coverage of Thompson's recent trial on professional misconduct charges by the Florida Bar.
Thompson's view seems to be that we can't print selected excerpts from the trial testimony, but rather that we have a legal responsibility to report on the testimony of all witnesses, including Thompson, who himself testified for five days.
That's nonsense. That would mean that GP's First Amendment rights are null and void, that we don't get to determine what we print, but rather that Jack Thompson does.
To put it mildly, that's not happening.
Besides, there are good reasons to print selected excerpts. Space is obviously a consideration. In addition, some of the witnesses against Thompson don't have any connection to video game issues. We're skipping them. The transcripts we've obtained from five game-related witnesses run to hundreds of pages. Excerpts are a necessity. What's more, the excerpts don't just include allegations against Thompson. They also include some of Thompson's objections as well as his cross-examination of the witnesses. In addition, we've made arrangements to acquire Thompson's closing argument (although not from him; he has declined to provide it) and will feature that as a stand-alone.
By way of introduction, part one ran yesterday and provides much of the back story of the series. In today's update, GamePolitics presents excerpts from the testimony of Alabama Circuit Court Judge James Moore. As longtime GamePolitics readers will recall, on November 18th, 2005 Judge Moore revoked Thompson’s pro hac vice (visiting) right to practice law in Alabama. The drastic action by Judge Moore essentially removed Thompson from Strickland vs. Sony, a wrongful death lawsuit seeking $600 million from a variety of video game industry defendants, including Grand Theft Auto publisher Rockstar Games.
Judge Moore began his lengthy testimony on November 26, 2007 and completed it the following day. Indeed, the transcripts of his direct testimony and Thompson's cross examination exceed 300 pages. The following excerpts represent only a small portion of Moore's testimony:
(GP: Under questioning by Florida Bar prosecutor Sheila Tuma, Judge Moore detailed his reasons for revoking Thompson's pro hac vice status. As alleged by Judge Moore, these included: failure to disclose material facts in Thompson's application; extra-judicial comments made by Thompson; and violating rules of conduct. We note that Thompson disputes these allegations. In the excerpted transcripts, MOORE is Judge James Moore. JT is Thompson, TUMA is prosecutor Sheila Tuma and DT is Judge Dava Tunis, who is presiding over the case)
TUMA: ...You indicated to that Mr. Thompson violated various rules in Alabama. Can you explain to the Court what conduct Mr. Thompson engaged in when he violated those rules?
MOORE: (following a lengthy objection from Thompson which was overruled): One was an ex-parte written communication to me in an attempt to interject himself in the Court's management of [cop killer Devin Moore's] criminal trial; also his conduct towards opposing counsel... [saying] repeatedly that the [video game industry] corporate defendants and the [video game industry] counsel are lying...
(later Thompson objects that he is being subject to an ex post facto Florida Bar regulation that didn't exist at the time of his alleged offense; Judge Tuma overrules his objection, however...)
JT: Judge, Judge, for heaven's sake. They're citing a rule that didn't exist and they're citing that rule as authoritative against me for something I did prior to the rule's coming into existence... and this Judge [Moore] is not competent to testify as to whether or not I violated any Florida Bar rules. He's not licensed in Florida...
(After revoking Thompson's pro hac vice status in 2005, Judge Moore directed Thompson not to contact his Court any further. Thompson allegedly did not comply with the order.)
TUMA: Judge Moore, after you [revoked his pro hac vice], did you indicate to Mr. Thompson not to contact you any further since he was out of the case?
MOORE: Yes... Because he was continuously sending documents to my office; three, four, five times a day, easy... plus, when he would send his media alerts out... when he sends them to these media people, then they call my office. We got calls from all over the world about this, and it was extremely disruptive... my staff is one lady. That's it. She's it. We preside over three courts in three counties... it was very disruptive.
TUMA: How would you receive the correspondence?
MOORE: Fax...
TUMA: Can you just maybe try to explain briefly why you determined to file the [Bar] complaint...?
MOORE: Because his actions were outrageous...
JT: Excuse me, Your Honor, I move to strike his answer that I was outrageous. That's not really responsive.
DT: Overruled.
JT: That's a characterization.
DT: Overruled...
(later, Judge Moore is asked to discuss a 2005 communication from Thompson...)
TUMA: Can you tell the Court what that is?
MOORE: That is a copy of an e-mail from Mr. Thompson dated November the 7th, 2005... It's addressed to me....
TUMA: Please slowly read that paragraph.
MOORE: "I was in your courtroom, Judge, and I felt like Alice in Wonderland must have felt. It's okay for [video game industry attorney] Mr. Smith to act like a Mafia thug, but it's unethical for me to point out the thuggery. What in hell - literally - is going on here? This is utter, utter nonsense and you're watching it, Judge... it is open season in your Courthouse and courtroom on Christians who think that there are such things as decency and sexual material harmful to minors and murder simulators and so forth. This has got to stop."
(Judge Moore is subsequently asked by prosecutor Tuma about Thompson's case-fixing allegations concerning Alabama lawyer Clatus Junkin...)
TUMA: Can you tell the Court what you understand about Mr. Thompson's statements about a fixer being involved in this case?
MOORE: Yes... he set out these allegations in there about Clatus Junkin saying that he could fix the case with me, that he had control of me... or something to that effect.
TUMA: And at any time, did you have any discussions with Clatus Junkin that you would allow him to appear in this case and that the case would be fixed because he was appearing?
MOORE: No.
(GP: Judge Moore is then asked to read letters sent by Thompson to high-level officials of the state of Alabama. One letter asks for a criminal investigation of Clatus Junkin regarding the alleged case-fixing before Judge Moore.)
TUMA: Judge Moore... Can you tell the court how the receipt of all the documents you received from Mr. Thompson affected you?
JT: Objection; irrelevant.
DT: Overruled.
MOORE: For one, as I testified, it was really disturbing to the operation of my office. That, I think, is the main thing... You know, the other thing, it's just terribly frustrating to me as a Judge in this situation that he can publish these things to the press, unfounded, completely untrue, and I believe they are - they are very hurtful and harmful to the Court and the way this Court operates.
I can't operate or any judge can't operate until the public has confidence in us and he attacks that confidence and its just absolutely baseless.
NEXT: Jack Thompson cross-examines Judge Moore.
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I was raising a cost concern for those who haven't obtained a transcript but would like to do so. Dennis already has his transcript in hand.
400 pages. But the true count depends on whether it's a "manuscript" (one page per page) or a "minuscript" (four pages per page). Minuscripts are a means of reducing the full cost of a manuscript's reproduction to a quater of that of a manuscript because the reporting services charge per page reproduced.
Overruled.
Objection!
Overruled.
JT is getting his ass handed to him.
That quote sums up so much about the damage Thompson does.
SUSTAINED!
Aww man we're gonna have a blast doing this "overruled" and sustained!" comments
So yeah, good going JT. You're making a mockery of yourself at your own trial. A winnar is U!
You got a good defamation case. And Thompson -- well, the Thompsons -- have deep pockets. And once the Supreme Court rules that he was in fact reckless in his disregard for the truth of the injurious statements he's made about you, the case can only get better. Gimme a call. I'll take it on a contingency basis. And, unlike Jack Thompson, I don't lose my cases.
Holla atcha boy.
Peace.
Yeah I wish I had that kinda power over him... wait you didn't mean me huh? (more convenient for most people to call me that online :P)
@Rodrigo:
LOL yeah Nielsen would be perfect for the part, aren't parody movies his specialty? (Naked Gun, Spy Hard, etc... I think he's in Superhero Movie too... )
@unrated:
Nah... I wouldn't give that d-bag the time of day either now or after he's out of a job. (But I'm all for the 'Muffins for Tunis' campaign if she comes through for us.)
@Anon:
GP's probably just using the 'wrong ones' (i.e. the ones that make him look bad...)
Perhaps because in this case he might have to stand up straight and solemnly own up and apologize using his "professional" demeanor? I mean, if he could get away with going all full-goose-bozo like we've seen in the past, he'd probably have already sent out the closing arguments to GP and every other major media outlet. But straight professional statements that may include apologetics? That may be a court transcript he'd rather have sealed! ;-)
in jts case yes
Am I the only one thinking that when the decision comes down, Judge Tumis shouldn't declate him guilty but rather declare him "Totally pwned!"? Oh and sentenced to play GTA3 for 6 hours a day, just for the irony.
Maniacal shootings.
Diabetes.
BLAME THE GAME.
Excellent excellent testimony and coverage of this. Gamers across America should be celebrating.
Although we all think JT may be nuttier than squirrel shit, do not for a minute
think he's stupid....
Sun Tsu states that you should never underestimate the other side. Just because he is obnoxious, over the top, and a 1st class media whore does not take away from the fact he has a Juris Doctorate.
Most lawyers end up as sleazy, steaming piles but you gotta be smart and shrewd to last that long.
Damn I just enjoyed the "overruled" statements. I died laughing each time... I would enjoy replying to JT's comments with "overruled"
Nevertheless... I really would enjoy to see the entire case against him, though I do understand the reasons for holding it back.
Man, it must be comedy gold...
Clever
So yes, I wouldn't be surprised to find that a good 75% of the reason that many Consumers of computer games decided to unite under the ECA was because of Jack Thompson. The fact he cannot get his head around the idea of of people deciding to unite against his actions without being 'industry shills', but purely because he is an obnoxious git who insults everyone who disagrees with him.
The gaming community is finding a voice, and I think it would have been happy to sit back and let the ESA deal with simple legal challenges, which would have left them weaker, but Thompson managed to offend gamers to the point where they put their 'my PS3 is better than your XBox360' argument to one side and agreed on something instead.
Thompson managed to offend gamers to the point where they put their ‘my PS3 is better than your XBox360? argument to one side and agreed on something instead.
Pfft, the PS3 people are only saying that because PS3s suck
It is a good point, it's rare to get people to agree on anything. Usually there's a wide variety of opinions.
PC vs Console: Fight
PS3 vs Wii vs Xbox360: Fight
Strategy vs FPS: Fight
Half Life 2 vs FPS that doesn't suck: Fight
Light Machine Gun vs Assault Rifle: Fight
Sanity vs Jack Thompson: Unanimous vote for Sanity
The most positive thing I've seen said about Thompson is words to the effect of "If only he was rational and discussed things rather than ranted"
True, there will always reasons for the ECA to exist, but I can't help thinking that Thompson's incredible behaviour was (to use a Babylon 5 quote of all things) 'the glue that holds us together'. Had he not eagerly garnered attention by insulting as many denominations as possible in the gaming community, something I am pretty certain he did purely to get that attention, a lot less people are going to be keeping up with the world of Game Politics I think. From a purely political point of view, him continuing his campaign after disbarment would be a massive advantage for the gaming industry, people will still rally round to defend it, but if Thompson goes, to be blunt, so does 90% of the 'lulz' factor.
I will admit, however, that as long as groups like Fox News keep playing the same tune, you will see the same response, but deeper, more technical issues such as Net Neutrality and Copyright Law will be, I think, much harder to maintain interest in.
Subject: RE: Drinking Game
Rules:
1. Do NOT use alcohol (soda works just fine)
2. Every time he makes an Objection, take 1 drink(s).
3. Every time he uses profanity (or if profanity is found in quotes of him), take 2 drink(s).
4. Every time his Objection is "OVERRULED!!!", finish your drink and refill your glass, cup, etc.
5. Every time his Objection is (miraculously) "SUSTAINED!!!", take 1 drink(s) and spray it all over your screen. Remember to clean it up afterwards.
6. If you finish your drink before number 4 is accomplished, All I can say is... "Game Over, man. GAME OVER."
These are the (UNOFFICIAL) Rules of "The Jack Thompson Bar Trial Drinking Game"
NOTE: Apologies to Dennis McCauley if this infringes upon any rules of the Comments Policy. This was made just for fun. Though a real Drinking Game would be really fun.
Let me guess, for fear of succumbing to alcohol poisoning?
Where did you get that information? I read both articles so far, but I guess I missed that.
I wouldn't be surprised if Dennis has a minuscript. I doubt he wants to spend more than he has to, and that would probably be easier to organize. Thanks for the info.
A domain he registered himself on Feb. 9, 2006 but never did anything with?
His threat is nothing but a lame reverse-psychology ploy, the truth is he doesn't want the whole thing published because it will show people something he doesn't want them to see.
The truth about himself.
JT: 2+2=5
Us: No, it's 4.
JT: 2+2=5! 2+2=5! 2+2=5! 2+2=5!
Us: If you say it ten times, it doesn't make it true!
JT: I only said it five times! You are wrong! Therefore, I am right! Therefore, 2+2=5! I win!
Video games.
Video games games games.
JT made more sense in that video than he ever has in real life.
Taken under advisement. Thanks.
"Left Behind for eternity in a wasteland of dessicated atheist retiree corpses.. In Florida."
ohh well im really sure hes not gonna weasel out of this one this time.
DT basically wants JT to sit down, shut up, and let Moore speak.
whenever any of us sees a post by JT we should reply to it by posting:
OVERRULED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that should trigger something hilarious
its like Britney spears trying to sue the popperazi for slandering her left and right.
honestly she'd have more of a case than JT.
he needs to give in, he's lost and thats all there is to it.
ok, in the same sentance he states both that the rule does not exist, and that it shouldn't apply to him since the dispute happened before the rule existed, which is it Jacko? does it exist or doesn't it?
Why?
Just stop talking about him till his trial in Florida is done..
GD.
GP: His trial in Florida *is* done... it ended in December. But, for such an iconic figure in the world of politics/games, there was precious little coverage of the trial. We only knew what Thompson himself let out, plus a limited amount of digging GP was able to do.
So, when the person who has really come to symbolize the mainstream view of games-as-bad is placed on trial over his actions, many of which relate to the game space, that's news, my friend.
He never said that it doesn't exist, only that it didn't exist (i.e. past tense).
Thank You Jack for making me feel intelligent, you fluffy huggable razor blade of narracasism you!
I'd hug you but I'm sure you'd try to sue me.
Sustained!
They must make a movie of this... a comedy: The Trial of Jack Thompson, with Leslei Neilsen as Jack...
Maybe we should ask GP to post a picture or two.
dont worry bout the train at all worry bout the little car stalled on the tracks =p
(figuratively speaking of course) (i had to throw that in)
OVERRULED!!! >:D
Doesn't this sound a bit like JT's personal own "Untergang"? :D
Jmaes Moore has a courtroom to run. This case was supposed to take a coupel days of his time, yet Thomspon seems determined to make it his entire job through clogging up the system with filings and the general harassment through the press.
No, he wants to clogg the system to stall his inminent disbarrement as long as possible.
Your OVERRULING is OVERRULED!!!!
Jack sounds really unprofessional. Of course, when you're a looney, I guess being professional is kind of at the bottom of the list of priorities.
Your overrulling of an overule is SUSTAINED!
Don't like it? Don't read it. The rest of us find this too freaking entertaining and important to waste time listening to the "Don't give Jack coverage" crowd. I'm not going to reiterate all the reasons that that point of veiw is foolhardy. Instead I'm going to remind you, and the rest of the crowd, that you're more than capable of ignoring the stories that involve Jack.
So again, and this time to the entire collective or numbskulls that dislike Jack Thompson stories:
If you don't like the story, don't read it. The rest of us are interested in the downfall of one of the most visible, vocal, libelous, inflammatory, vicious, and worst of all, most PUBLIC anti-game critics since Joe Lieberman.
AgnostoTheo.
Eat it Jack! EAT IT!
but if violent games can cause people to commit murder.
and games can incite people to pick up hookers and commit rape.
if we give JT pheonix wright he may actually become a lawyer, do we really want that?
Here's how it works, Jack Thompson, Attorney Not:
You must first object that the response is unreponsive or nonresponsive. Then if, and only if, the court sustains your objection, can you move to strike. Think: horse and carriage.
I fear that the folks at Vanderbilt are now having a serious discussion about retracting the Juris Doctor they gave you. They should.
No, but at least he'll shut up for 5 minutes assuming he'll play it.
Has the ruling come in yet? Though we were still waiting on that..
Btw, its become pretty apparant that JT bears some striking similarities to Fred Phelps, they both feed on the attention you guys give them, and when his license is revoked you KNOW he's going to play the matyr card..
GP: It's not my issue whether he grooves on the attention... Perhaps he does. My issue is to cover news related to games & politics and this certainly qualifies. I actually think this series is one of the more significant JT stories we've ever run.
i certainly remember my math grades getting better after i started playing dungeons and dragons (stupid dm trying to shortchange me on the dice rolls), also im good at remembering patterns because of all those memorize the sequence minigames. And finally my spelling and vocabulary grew from playing lots of rpgs and the like.
Of course im not discounting other things like my mother´s parenting, and other factors. However if games were as bad as they say id be a wreck.
What is even funnier is that he considered this 'winning' a while back.
I was wondering if it is possible to get a transcript of the trial?
I mean, either on a website, or download-able word/pdf document?
GP: I'm mulling that over. I've turned the 1st story into a PDF... and then I went back and realized that some 3rd parties who weren't a part of the trial but who were mentioned could be hurt... so I went back and redacted those names with my Sharpie redacting tool... and then re-scanned... but I'm trying to figure out whether it's a good idea to post the transcripts, mainly from a liability standpoint.
Not really, they just needed to tell everyone the truth, that the taught Jack Thompson wrong, intentionally. As a joke.
You know, for someone who claims they ain't interested, you do a lotta lurking.
either that or seeing as he owns stock in t2 this is one hell of an insider trading scheme!!
Why you ain't raise the most obvious defenses: mental retardation and insanity?
That wasn't very smart.
LOL!!
so... i guess that's a no then...
darn.. it would've made a good reading material
No, man, that´s gonna be like he is admitting his own mistakes. That can´t be old Jack Thompson´s style.
He has to blame videogames for his failure as human being and lawyer.
xD
Don't take my word for it, but I am fairly certain you won't find it on-line. It may be available through the Clerk at the Miami-Dade courthouse (11th Judicial Circuit). Or, if you can determine who the court reporting service was, you may be able to purchase copies directly them from (usually not cheap, if we're talking a many-paged transcript -- which we are).
Hope I'm not giving away GP's trade secrets.
JT: OBJECTION, everything they say is UNTRUE! OBJECTION to your OBJECTIONS! OBJECTION, you should go do the physically impossible! OBJECTION, I wanted a pony for my birthday! OBJEEEEEEEEECCCCTTTTIIIIIIOOOOONNNN, I WANT MY MOMIEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
And yes, I know it says he "cross-examines," but we all know he is going to do this...
Still, for a good laugh I would love to see the stuff GP isn't covering. But I can understand you not doing so, I mean, what beef does Jack have with "selected excerpts" from his court hearing? He uses "selected excerpts" all the time!
If GP wasn't covering this, then we wouldn't have anything. I know the wait is hard, and the possibility of this coming to an end within a short time of GTA IV's release, makes it all the more difficult to wait for the surely climatic conclusion to all this.
GP, keep up the great work, and do what you have to in order to protect yourself from legal threats.
He is completely ridiculous, and makes good reading. That characterization threw me for a loop since he brought up character evidence already. Hell most of this trial is about Jack's character and how he carries himself.
I hope that we can get a pdf version of the trial. Maybe it should be titled, "How Not to be a Lawyer"
I call dibs to write a movie using this transcript, and other Jack Thompson transcripts as the basis.
I say that Jack is starting to understand that the Interweb isn't his best friend...
When Thompson claims that you can’t print selected excerpts from the trial testimony, but rather that you have a legal responsibility to report on the testimony of all witnesses, including himself, please tell me you don't just summarily brush that ridiculous notion aside. You do have a little fun with him first, don't you? Like asking him, "What's your legal authority for that claim?" You know, kinda like a cat'll play with a dead mouse -- before eating it.
"Yo, Jack:
Why you ain’t raise the most obvious defenses: mental retardation and insanity?"
I don't think either of those pleas would help him dodge disbarment. Temporary insanity maybe. Too bad he doesn't qualify for the temporary part.
Is Mr Thompson really a qualified lawyer? He's going on like somebody you would see on Boston Legal.
Tomrrows headlines: Thompson accuses Judge Tuma of case fixing
Incidentally, I find it interesting and amusing that Jack refused to volunteer his own closing argument. We know the man never misses an opportunity to grandstand and that would have been the perfect moment for him to do so. Makes you wonder what he’s so afraid of.
Perhaps I’m being a bit premature; I’ve only read a bit of this and I’ll read the rest later, but it looks to me like Jack’s goose is going to be thoroughly cooked by the time all is said and done.
I'll put $20 it happens in May.
Because they're more like as-the-coffin-lid's-closing arguments than anything else.
quit reading ahead of the script =p
Just caught your post (tears of laughter clouded my vision). Well-said. And seconded.
*grin* I try my best.
"'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G.K. Chesterton"
I find that quote kinda scary. It an aphorism that sums up a crap-ton of things that I find wrong in the world.