April 13, 2008 -
When you cast your ballot for the next president, will the candidate's stance on video game issues decide your vote?It's a worthy question, and one that Bonnie Ruberg of Heroine Sheik asks herself:
The [presidential] primaries are front-page news even here [in France], and there’s a big election coming up in my home state of Pennsylvania, so French people always want to know, “Do you support Hilary or Obama?” Truth is though, I honestly don’t know...
When I try to explain my dilemma to a French person though, I always find myself falling back on the “Hilary wants to censor video games” angle though. And what do I get in response? Awkward stares that say, “You wouldn’t really vote for someone on the basis of video games, would you?”
The question is, would I? ...I really do think Hillary’s approach could be detrimental to our art form–especially if she’s the leader of the whole frickin’ country... Then again, Obama is no shiny light of tech positivism either. Al Gore, I miss you.



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Re: Bonnie Ruberg Ponders Whether Video Game Issue Will Decide
if hillary wins shell fuck up and if she dont get impeached after tht then if she messes with videogames all hell will break loose literally cause her kids will hate her, any other kids or teens who play games will hate her, hell game companies will call her a bitch everytime they see her, you fools on here thk video games arent important damn it accounts for our fuckin economy being fed money face it Hilary you dont know shit bout Americas needs
in the immortal words of Stan Lee
NUFF SAID
Obama, while stating that he did think that video games are a waste of time, made no indication that he'd seek an outright ban. It rang more of opinion than trying to mandate a fact
I know one of the main reasons I'm not voting for Hilary is because of the video game "angle" Its incredibly important to me and I wouldn't have any problem telling someone that was the sole reason I wouldn't vote for her, whether it was or not.
It pretty much shows she is just like any other two faced politician, doing whatever she can to get elected and in this case hiding behind the age old protect the children/ family values platform. "Why wont anyone think of the children?!"
I say vote for McCain.
How about 'All mangled and killed'
That would be a great option for some elections.
Yeah, protecting the world from ManBearPig.
As far as the video game issue goes, feel it is a very good reason for voting if it is a reason that affects you, which, in this case it seems to affect Bonnie. The problem is all the "video games are evil, Jack Thompsons" who are going to vote FOR her for the video game reason, but on the other, anti-game angle. I bet the amount of the anti-game public who would vote for that reason far outweigh the amount of the voting age who are voting against her because of her stance on games. She doesn't support the outright Ban of games, which is a positive. But she does support a Ban to minors, which, though against the first amendment does keep our antagonists, like Jack T, at bay, and would lighten the load on the issue. She is pretty liberal about the other issues I care about.. but alas, not a resident of the U.S.
I know, it's ridiculous. Ron Paul is an amazing constitutionalist and libertarian, but because he is against the war, the republican party won't nominate him.
I don't want another President who regards the Constitution as nothing more than an inconvenience.
As for the issue at hand, voting on gaming issues goes beyond gaming. It's a barometer for several, more important issues that the general public does care about. If a canidate is against gaming legislation, then it says of them:
--They aren't looking for scapegoats to societies problems in the media
--They are somewhat savy on modern technological issues (like video games as adult entertainment, internet related issues, etc)
--They are for protecting the First Ammendment, even when it isn't popular
And a canidate for legislation is basically the opposite, and pandering to frightened parents.
GP: Who gets to decide, for example, whether content is “dangerous”? What does that mean, exactly? Does violent content make media dangerous? Is Manhunt 2 dangerous? Call of Duty 4? Saving Private Ryan? Beowulf? The Bible?
If Hillary was headlining her campaign with video game regulation, and claiming it was the very first thing she would address in office, and there was nothing else more important than video game regulation at this time in America, then I'd be more concerned. But she is not.
I'm just trying to understand why, aside from the obvious fact that there's politics & games involved in the story, this is deemed significant enough to post since there's doubtlessly thousands of other politics+games posts floating around. Many of the comments on GP stories spring to mind and not just those made by me...
Aliasalpha, it is not about her, exactly, but the question she brings up. which is a good one. Would we really vote for a candidate based on their video game stance? If a neo-nazi, for example (godwin's law, I know) came up and supported games, would we vote for him/her for it? How about someone who supported games but was determined to reinstate a draft and stay in Iraq for years to come? Or supported the RIAA? Or had other really negative policies, but supported games?
These are two "qualities" I don't want in somebody
These are two "qualities" I don't want in somebody running the vast majority of the western world.
/b
Obama 08' I hope, if only I could be American for a day...
Or you could argue that someone stupid enough to really believe videogames cause violence couldn't be trusted to make any choices about our country.
Or you could just use the fact thats she has already lied to us so you can't trust her.
Sinbad watch out! theres a sniper behind that little eight year old girl hunging the first lady!
Curse you no edit feature!
@ Bonnie Ruberg(I'm pretty sure she'll be reading this eventually):
Al Gore isn't and wouldn't have been any better, considering that when he was running for President against George W. Bush, he was heavily promoting that he would legislate against all entertainment(all while collecting their campaign contributions, making him a hypocrite), while Bush was saying he'd work with the entertainment industry.
Plus, Gore had Lieberman(One of the industry's biggest critics at the time) as his Vice Presidental candidate, and Gore's wife, Tipper, was one of the people whining about heavy metal music in the early 80's, and Al himself held a Congressional hearing on the music industry(the famous one with Frank Zappa, John Denver, and Dee Snider defending the music industry).
"Apparently there isn’t a republican running this year… "
That's not really important at the moment, because McCain is "locked in." What's interesting right now is who he's going to be running against. Obama, or Clinton?
Besides, McCain is not a good choice from a gamer's perspective. He opposes making Net Neutrality official, and believes that the telecoms have a right to parcel up the internet into fast and slow traffic if they want to (or even block content if they so choose). Meanwhile, Obama and Clinton favor Net Neutrality.
Now that I think about it, Ron Paul would probably (I don't know) be against any bills for Net Neutrality himself, if what I know of his stances are any indication.
Dee Snider, wasn't he with Twisted Sister?
There are ACTUAL fucking issues you dipshits. Like health care, the economy (FYI it's not doing too hot because for the last half century, rich assholes have been mismanaging it to maximize their profits), oil (y'know, that stuff we rely on for nearly everything right now? well that's running out), climate change, war.
Weather or not a candidate is going to be pissy and impotent about regulating video games is WAAAAAY the fuck down on the list of things you should be wondering about when you're looking at a candidate for president.
The other problem is that video game legislation is costly, unconstitutional, and potentially a slippery slope. Worse yet, this type of legislation draws attention from the real problems America's youth faces today, and the real sources of criminal behavior: poverty, low life chances, drug neighborhoods, and domestic abuse, to name a few causes. I see video games as an issue that definitely affects most Americans whether they want to believe it or not.
I mean come on, look at the huge numbers who voted for Bush because of the gay marriage angel.... and that was an issue that didn't even effect the ones voting for him.
I mean come on, look at the huge numbers who voted for Bush because of the gay marriage angel…. and that was an issue that didn’t even effect the ones voting for him. "
Because equal protections and rights are SOOOOOooooOOOO unimportant.
Hillary is pro-censorship on all levels and anti-Constitution.
I ment that the people voting for bush (and thus against gay rights) were generally people not effected by the laws.
Yeah, I'd say those are all pretty important.
I'm not a huge fan of McCain, but I'd choose him over Clinton or Obama. Clinton is manipulative, phony, and lacks experience. Obama not only lacks experience, but he also has poor judgement. Look at the people he associates himself and his family with. Plus, he did virtually nothing as senator. He opposed the war from the start, sure, but he did not vote against it, making the point that he opposed it totally moot.
McCain really isn't my choice, but taking a look at who we have running, I'd choose him. But only because Paul won't get the nomination.
Just because he is against making it official does not mean he is opposed to it. As a republican, he believes that each state should make their own decision on things. Obviously, he wants the states to have a say in it.
I honestly don't think that the president will be spending that much time on video games, whoever it is. Notice that video game legislation tends to be more at the state level. I am voting for Obama, and I am much more concerned about bringing my friends who are serving in Iraq home safe and sound.
If we vote based only on this one issue, then we are no better than the people that vote only on abortion and gay marriage. I like to believe we are better and more intelligent than that. I have always been and always will be a vocal supporter of free speech, but that is a battle that I believe will be fought on the state level, not on the national stage.