Deutsche Welle reports that German officials may ask retailers to switch off game console displays during school hours.
Authorities there are concerned that the game demos are attracting truant students:
The newspaper Welt am Sonntag quoted Udo Nagel (left), state interior minister of Hamburg, as saying the idea was among 22 recommendations on fighting juvenile delinquency prepared ahead of a meeting of state interior ministers this week.
"Truancy can be the beginning of a criminal career and that's why we have to intervene," said Nagel. "Not every truant becomes criminal, but criminals skipped school at one time or another."
German interior ministers will discuss the proposals, including the game demo restriction, at a conference later this month in Brandenburg.
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But asking stores to shut down thier displays is st00pid.
Like seriously, if kids are skipping school, why would they be playing game demos for hours at a time? Skipping school is either to cause mischief or to have fun, neither of which can be attained by playing a game demo at a store.
But otherwise, I don't know what kinds of rights retail stores in Deutschland have, so it's an iffy thing in the rights point of view
Oh, thats right, its the hip, popular thing to do at the moment. It doesn't have to make a lick of sense. What was I thinking.
Also:
Are they also going to look at reasons why kids maybe skipping school to begin with and try and fix those issues or are they just in the "cart before the horse" mentality?
But anyone who's ditching class to hang out at EB and play demos deserves to fail out and become a bum.
Am I the only one here that thinks the line being drawn between game demos and truancy is a rather thin one? I'd like to see some proper figures indicating that there is direct link between these two.
That, and I'm more interested in seeing what the other 21 recommendations are.
That's my two cents, anyway.
Wouldn't this only apply to German developed games from German developers like Piranha Bytes and the like? And isn't it the publishers who decide when to release demos and such PR material to the public? And isn't nearly all publishers these days international companies ? Or at least based in the US?
The point I slow getting at wouldn't this suggestion be kind of a moot point since all publishers will use the US time zones, not the European time zones which means that shcool's out when most demos get released, whether they are developed by a German or US or even Canadian based game developers...
The argument about truancy and criminal activities seem to be a (very) thin one, at least to me. It's true, of course, that some or maybe all? criminals have skipped school and then got involved in criminal activities. However, last time I checked playing a game demo 1 or 2 times a year and skipping school to do so is not a criminal activity (but maybe it is in Germany?)
I would rather have the politicians took notice of the boys&girls that skipped girl a lot instead of again singling or nearly singling our videogames as the bad guy...
"Germany, Cause facisism was such a great idea the first time around"'
Come on folks, get over it and actually put your effort and resources to getting something constructive done.
Another point they left out is that some of the greatest criminal minds were great students who didn't skip school.
I, myself, never skipped school willingly. In mine, they DID made attempts to make it less boring (they worked). Guess some schools need to evolve.
You're right, Hitler didn't skip school.
In 1967 Charlie Chaplin stopped making films
In 1968 Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King were assassinated.
Therefore, a lack of Charlie Chaplin must directly correlate to assassination.
I would have loved to learn about important things. Credit cards, loans, how to change a tire, how to jump start a car, CPR, how to eat healthy. Apparently it was more important that I learn about World War II 5 years in a row.
I think maybe they're looking in the wrong place for a cause.
Now, if there were legal matters involved in this, it'd be a different story. But there aren't. I think we can leave our pitchforks and shovels in our barns.
For now.
Criminals at one time drank water, so we should ban water.
SO thats why they died
I thought it was Johnson
...Granted, stupid people still exist here. But at least our Constitution basically tells these people to go fuck themselves. Though, I don't know much about German law. As far as I've heard, gaming in Germany is hell.
Now...
I really, really hate flawed logic like this:
...Criminals skipped school at one time or another.
So? People have skipped school before, they've never turned into a criminal.
What is the point of having demos turned off, anyway? Do they think that German students ditch school so they can go play some short demo at a store? Yeah, and if this was to pass... Congratulations! You gave the kids one less thing to do!
Hell, for most kids who ditch school, gaming isn't even on their mind...
Hooray for scapegoating!
Why? What's that going to accomplish? The most time I've seen somebody at a demo is 10 minutes.
Oh television, all television MUST be banned during school hours! No brainer!
Okay, seeing stuff like this just annoys me. What the hell's the point of making World War 2 references in regards to VIDEO GAMES for God's sake? I know my share of Germans and they're no different from us, they have stupid politicians and smart ones. Turning off game demos is hardly the same as slaughtering the Jews. You can't even get your metaphors right.
This is exactly the reason gamers are discriminated against and believed to be immature/irresponsible, because the most vocal of us are also the rudest, dumbest, and most intolerant. Congratulations on becoming the same as your enemy.
It is also indeed true that you see a lot of kids hanging out in shopping malls playing on public displays (which usally - by the way - offer you the FULL game to play and not just Demos... guess this is a translation error) during school time. Thus the idea behind this is not as far fetched as one might imagine.
Nevertheless it is just another sad attempt of.. lets say "blame and ban something totally not the reason for the problem" or basically just "ban what you do not understand". The conclusion that banning public displays will stop these kids from ditching school is just plain (I beg your pardon) fucking ridiculous. Instead of searching the real cause for this problem (e.g. obsolescent teaching methods and material in schools, misguided parenting... just to name a few) they just blame it on video games as it seems to be modern nowadays (like whenever something involing guns happens you can bet that there is going to be at least one newspaper asking "Did Counterstrike make them do it?"). Reason might be that it is of course a lot easier to pull a publicity stunt instead of really doing something that makes sense. In addition many politicians still seem to think video games are something just for kids...
But what annoys me the most is the fact that my generation had the same trouble and (most likely) for the same reason. Or in other words: 15 Years ago you might have seen me on one of those displays (in those days of course equipped with NES or Sega's Master System) during school time. Why? Because the "computer class" we had in school was not more than a complete joke and this was one way to get in contact with a new evolving technology instead of sitting in class hearing yet more about WW2 (not that this bad, but if you hear it more than twice a year it's enough). In fact I ditched school a lot and not because it was to hard (meaning I was an A-level student) more because it did not offer anything interesting to somebody interested in new media. So I went on and learned about that stuff on my own while ditching school.
And guess what: I graduated high school, I gratuated college and today I WORK in the gaming industry. Guess it was not that bad after all. Huh? ;)
Of course not all kids are like me, but what I am driving at is that nobody actually makes the affort to talk to these kids and find solutions based on the real problems.
He's calling for this because of kickbacks from the newly formed arcade lobby. They're upset at the death of arcades, and want all free games shut off so the truant kids have no choice but to return to the pay-per-play palaces!
I mean, it's not like anyone really believes kids won't cut class if you turn off the game demo kiosks... do they??
And while I understand a certain desire for freedom to run one's business without interference, as I see it, demo kiosks are increasingly unimportant. If lawmakers want to target something that's already on the downturn, who cares? Maybe it'll keep them out of important issues for a while.