Angered by GTA IV Cuts & Price, Aussie Gamers Turning to Imports

April 16, 2008
Sucks to be an Australian Grand Theft Auto fan these days.

Not only will GTA IV be watered down in order to bypass government censorship Down Under, but fans will pay more for the lessened experience.

Naturally, game consumers are finding a way to get a better, fairer deal - and perhaps a bit of revenge - by importing non-Aussie versions of the game. As the Syndey Morning Herald reports:
Many Australian gamers have cancelled their [GTA IV] orders.

Already angered by the price of the blockbuster in Australia - $120 compared to $US60 ($64) in North America - gamers have reacted with outrage to news... that developer Rockstar has edited the game for Australia in order to obtain an MA15+ rating.

Many gamers said they cancelled their orders with Australian shops and will import a cheaper, uncut version, flouting the law.
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I'd do the same, I think, if I were an Aussie and planned to play the game. A price hike AND the content cut? No thank you.

A watered-down version AND a massive price hike? Wow, just wow...

I can't blaim Aussie gamers for importing their copies. I would do the same. It's as if there was a conspiracy to try and turn as many people off from playing the game as possible.

The Aussie government is just shooting itself in the foot over this one. Not only do they come off as a little tyrannical but they are also just hurting their economy by doing this.

for a country that was established by British criminals, they sure are conservative.

IANAL but I though that Australia essentially bans the import of games that aren't rated, thus making it illegal to bring them in. While GTAIV itself is rated, that's only the watered down Aussie version. If someone were to import a copy from say, the US or Britain, then they would essentially be imported an "unrated" copy, and possibly subject to some criminal penalties.

@GP

So why did the Sydney Morning Herald say it was illegal? Average mistake?

Does anone know of a site that will import the xbox 360 version to Australia? I've tried play.com and amazon.uk but they don't deliver here, and play-asia only stocks ntsc versions of the game.

Any links would be very much appreciated...

@Nathan Cocks: Everything you say is true enough, but at least some media coverage in something like the SMH does tend to make some people think .... even if it is just between bites of their Tim Tam during the morning coffee break.

Quite frankly, if I lived any where close to oz, I would be arranging a boycott right now, I can understand censorship in its own little way, at times it can be useful, like not letting little kiddies buy 18 rated games, but however this censorship is madness even if it well meant, however one thing I cannot understand, is the price hike, seriously what justification can the distributors have other than "we want me more money lol" and honestly, double the price for less game? *pulls hair out*

What I would like to see come launch day, is lots of stores with GTA:VI cut version in row upon row, not selling a single copy.

That would send a message.

Importing isn't illegal, but selling/advertising the uncut version in-country is.

Consumers should do this more often to deal with anti consumer regions and companies....

@Internet Hate Machine

You are an ill-informed, reactionary little fucktard.

It is NOT illegal to own an unrated game (or video, for that matter) in New Zealand!!! It is illegal to *sell* a game that has not been classified, or to own one that has been classified and found to be objectionable. Otherwise, you are quite entitled to import whatever you want. This information comes, by the way, direct from Bill Hastings. You know, the Chief Censor that you blasted for absolutely no cogent reason?

Oh, and $NZ150 for GTA IV? Where the FUCK are you buying yours from, then: "Discounts For Retards"?

The censorship is bogus, but worst of all is the price, and it's not localised to GTA every game is overpriced. Then not only on the consoles, PCs take it in the rear too, get this it costs US$88 to download COD4 on steam, thats more then in the shops FOR A DOWNLOAD! Frice fixing i say, but the ACCC which is our consumer affairs is to busy pretending to watch fuel prices... I own a PS3 and am already getting everything from play-asia.com region free is the way to beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[...] wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptSucks to be an Australian Grand Theft Auto fan these days. Not only will GTA IV be watered down in order to bypass Down Under government censorship, but fans will pay more for the lessened experience. Naturally, game consumers are finding a way to get a better, fairer deal - and perhaps a bit of revenge - by importing non-Aussie versions of the game. As the Syndey Morning Herald reports, Rebellious players import GTA IV because our censors still think games are child’s play, writes Jason Hill. Many Australian gamers have cancelled their [GTA IV] orders. Already angered by the price of the blockbuster in Australia - $120 compared to $US60 ($64) in North America - gamers have reacted with outrage to news… that developer Rockstar has edited the game for Australia in order to obtain an MA15+ rating. Many gamers said they cancelled their orders with Australian shops and will import a cheaper, uncut version, flouting the law. [...]

Alright, so what version will the Escapist get for Yahtzee?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Sorry, but this just makes me laugh.

I mean, doesn't the Australian government realize what it's doing? It's as if they actually want their citizens to undermine them in order to entertain themselves.

You Aussies really need to get yourself some Freedom of Speech.

Cool. Fuck the rules, FIGHT FOR AUSTRALIAN GAME FREEDOM!

GP: There is something deliciously ironic about gamers being forced by their government to turn to illegal means to acquire a crime game…

What part of importing is illegal in Australia? The importing itself or the uncencored Grand Theft Auto part?

I love the United States!

@FAMAS
I believe it's the uncensored GTA part but I'm no australian lawyer.

So essentially one is not permitted to own certain works of fiction in Australia?

Wait my Assuie brethern must pay 120 bucks for a water down? I would boycott but I already threw down 90 bucks for it.

Could someone from Australia come and explain that please?

Not Ebonheart's comment, but the import thing.

Remember not to be angry at R* for the watering down... if the Aussie government weren't so fascist and draconian in their game rating system then there would not have had to be any watering down.

As far as the price, I'd love to know what justifies the 100% markup... and who ordered it.

What about regional locks? will aussies be importing american consoles too? or is australia and US considered the same region?

Depends on how you interpret the law though eh? Is it Just illegal to buy or sell the game? You can own it without that being illegal? Or is the mere presence enough to soil the children of Aussies?

Cue the Australian government demanding Microsoft create region locks for their games in 3..2..1..

The pricing is nothing new - we're a country ruled by media distribution monopolies. Example, we have ONE telecommunications company. That's it. All of the others rent their lines at exhorbitant rates so even when the competition does good they do even better. It's funny that even games that are quite shite cost upwards of $30 even though they've been out since the Playstation 2 was something to look forward too. For whatever reason it costs me less to import from ANY country than it would for me to scoot down to JB-HiFi and pick up a new copy of GTAIV that didn't cost Rockstar an extra couple grand to get their staff to change. This is why I don't vote.

I'm still confused as to what the government is afraid will happen if we get an uncensored version of this, what I suspect is fabulous, game. Rioting in the streets? Or missing out on several million dollars that could be brought into the local retailing industry instead of hemorrhaging out to other nations...

It's times like this that I'm glad that I live in the US. First Amendment ftw

Keep fighting the good fight, Australian gamers!

Hehe.That was a delicious blast of irony.

@Clever

Wow, that really blows. I'd write to your politicians and demonstrate to them how much revenue their missing out on by allowing such things to continue. Maybe that'll get them off their asses.

"GP: There is something deliciously ironic about gamers being forced by their government to turn to illegal means to acquire a crime game…"

Does Australia make it illegal to bypass region encoding? I know they ban imports of non-rated material, but what other laws are Australian gamers going to be violating in order to obtain/play copies of GTAIV?
-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...

As a side note, if the Australian government starts locking people up for importing uncensored versions of GTA IV, I'd like to invite all Aussie gamers to move to the U.S.

I support breaking the law to force change in fucked up, paranoid governments. Enjoy GTA you guys!

Gamers pwned australian goverment. Good job! Do it for the lulz and GTAIV!!!!!

@MaskedPixelante:

I'm guessing he'll probably just have the Escapist ship him a copy at their cost. They'd probably do it for him too, just to see how he pops off about the 'reduced' version being sold for all that money. Oh I can't wait to see that review. :)

Dunno about the PS3, but the 360 apparently has an optional regional lock -- and I'd wager wombats to wallabies that Rockstar "accidentally" leaves it out so that Aussies can get the version they want from wherever they want (presumably Europe since they share the PAL format.) Nothing illegal about it unless there's an import law I don't know about, like the one Sony used to shut down that PSP-importing outfit a while ago.
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Triple price and censored? I would have had a fit.

@jaotne

I don't think they're the same region. However, if you have a PS3, it doesn't matter what country the game is from. The PS3 is already region-free allowing anyone to play ANY region games. Definitely a smart move by Sony on the whole.

Not sure what the options are for 360 owners though...

@Salen

Hey, yeah, I forgot about that. Yahtzee will be furious. :)
-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...

PS3 is region free for the games (Best decision ever, why I got a PS3, well done Sony).

Xbox360 is 50/50 Region free. There is region protection there, but there are usually PAL, NTSC and region free versions of each game. You just need to be careful.

Wii is the only fully region locked console, Bastard Nintendo. Hopefully they don't break FreeLoader.

Also, the PSP (for games) and DS are region free if anyone is interested.

Anyway, As you can tell I did a bit of research on the matter awhile. These days I only import because being a PAL gamer is crap in general, but we just got an extra handful of crap rubbed in our faces in this case.

Which kind of makes me feel terrible, I work as a programmer for a company that develops games that is based in Australia. But getting watered down games at double the price bull-crap.

-Twixn-

@Jabrwock:

Oh yes, he'll be furious alright. If there's one thing that Yahtzee knows, its being furious. Heck, he's already mad enough at how Australia gets games 3 months later than everyone else, kidding a 'slimmed down' version of GTA4 is gunna be beautiful cannon fodder for him.

So yes, I'm sure the Escapist will personally fly a copy of GTA4 to him on that winged marshmellow from the sherbert kingdom, if nothing other to see Yahtzee explode while their hit counter learns whole new levels of math to calculate the number of hits they get.

wouldn't be surrpised if this was a Xantos Gambit played by Rockstar. Though that could just be because I visit TVtropes too much.

It should be like, 15% or 20% off.

@Jabrwock

Well, I think the Aussie Gov't would consider the ESRB M-Rated version of GTA4 to be "un-rated", and thus importing it would be considered illegal.

$AU120? Is that all? Over here it's $NZ150 ($US118.56)! And we're getting the censored version! If that weren't bad enough we can't even get the real version legally because it's 'unrated'. *spits*

Fuck you (NZ chief censor) Bill Hastings, and fuck you Aussie censorship board! Your lack of balls is killing my gaming.

OOOoo!
New abbriviation IANAAL!
I Am Not An Austrailian Lawyer

When games are outlawed, only outlaws will play games...

Arcade = Wretched hive of scum and villany.

Err i meant double, not triple :S

Can't blame them. I'd do the same thing in there shoes.

@Internet Hate Machine
So what is stopping New Zealand people from importing their games the same way the Aussies do?

I should get into the import/export business. Buy games in the US, sell them to people down under for a small profit.

Even without knowing the specifics of Australian law, importing is very, very likely NOT illegal.

It might be illegal for Australian ships to sell games to anyone under their respective limits, but it's not illegal for people to buy whatever version they want.

Some with some countries in Europe that just buy the original versions from the UK or local importers.
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