God of War Banned in United Arab Emirates

April 17, 2008 -
The Sharjah municipality in the UAE has banned Sony's God of War, according to a report in Gulf News.

Government officials apparently felt that the game, rated M in the U.S. market, violated local norms. From the Gulf News report:
A UAE national said he was one of the people who was shocked to discover that the game was distributed in commercial areas...

"I knew that it was banned, but many of my friends were able to buy pirated copies from Dh5 to Dh10. I was shocked to see how much it contradicted Islamic values," said Khalid Bin Deemas, adding that it was dangerous as the video game was popular among children.

The permanent fatwa committee has instructed all concerned government departments to forbid the sale of such games and to confiscate them.

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“wait,islamic values?you mean treating women like 3rd rate citizens,advocating religious intolerance(aka killing all who are not islam in extreme cases)”

Nice ignorance. If this was true, every time I go to my cousins house, I would have to fear being killed, and my mom and sister would have to fear being beaten.

Also, according to Islam, women are allowed to divorce their husbands, and are allowed to do many of the things that the governments don't let them.

Backwards law enforcement by a backward people. This isn't news, it's simply a reflection of how Islam as a religion is still based firmly in the 17th Century. Someone should let them know that robes went out of fashion when Levis were invented.

the Islamic world had the best science going on of the time. ----

I wouldn’t say those are Islamic worlds. More like folk traditions.

also:

http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=383&report=60

and btw... did you guys know who makes part of the human right council? among it's member are:

qatar, egypt, saudi arabia, cuba, nigeria, jordan and china.

islam + human rights = division by zero.

"Islam as a religion is still based firmly in the 17th Century"

It's hard changing a firmly entrenched set of cultural norms. Look how long it took western Christianity to stop being such a stick in the mud... and that took gunpowder... ;)
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@Moko

You need to go back to the part where Jesus started teaching people. You know, the part that people are supposed to listen to. Reading the worst parts of X will not give you a good overall understanding of X.

@Dark Sovereign "Plus the extreme violence."

Multiple gods possibly, but I doubt it's the violence, I lived in an Islamic state for a few years (admittedly not the UAE but...) and graphic depictions of violence don't cause much, if any, out cry. By way of example, the news programmes would happily show any accident/conflict aftermath no matter how grizzly.

Gift.

It's a shame when something is banned years after it came out.

Lucky you guys are not Australians,

But yeah, I feel sorry for those gamers in the Middle East who have no Freedom of Speech and Expression to express themselves freely.

Also it is sort of Hypocrittical that even in the US, those "Extreme" Christians in Politics are trying to ban the 1st Amendment, the verry same 1st Amendment that protected things like Videogames, Movies, Music, Art and Literature (the passages of writing that comes from the Bible and the Koran)

Also knowing a bit about the Bible and Koran from my experience, the books are not in the wrong, it is more of how they are interpreted and how the words are twisted by those who preach hate and discrimination between people.

I guess many people did not realise that "The devil appears as an Angel of light" only to find out that it was talking about those who preach in hate, not love.

well that is what I interpret from that passage. But I could be wrong you know.

Banning art = bad.

All I have to say.

Islam(religion) is not the problem, take the bible and have stern waring tribes use it as their religion and you will have problems, its the infighting the and the warring tribal system that has kept most of Islam in the dark ages, without being able to easily evolve in mentality they cling to hard traditions because its all they know and all they have to keep them selfs, traditions are a security blanket on the way of life,with it one has to mature alil,and humans mature poorly at best.

Its a shame that Islam didn't recover from the crusades( IMO the crusades were justification to liquidate the disenfranchised members of society,at that time a war was needed to passfiy the masses, and what better way than a border dispute with someone you wanted to conquer anyway and was giving you some grief as well)......

@Jeff

The country is ruled by religion, essentially. If something goes against the religion of that country (which is Islam), then it must be bad, and therefore illegal. And I'm not sure if the UAE is like other Islamic countries, but women probably aren't allowed outside without a full shroud still. It's a difference in culture, no matter how backwards they may seem to us, and there's not much we can really do.

I think some webcomic described it as “the *promise* of a nipple is more enticing than the actual nipple…

That would be one of Penny Arcade's podcasts about the Mass Effect sex scene. XD

Other than that, not even gonna get involved in the religious discussion flying around here.

@mogbert

It depends whether it is punishable to practice any religion other than the official one promoted by the government. In Iran it probably definitely is punishable. But in UAE, I'm not so sure. They're more relaxed as far as Muslim states go.

isnt pokemon banned in most muslem countries as well?

Religious people = love violent books, hate violent video games

the US is going to be a theocracy, either under the house of "lord" or PC nazisboth have eaquly dated and moronic themes.

About the "Islamic values" argument....

Islam was once more liberal than the west. It had better science during this time. This was during the Crusades and the Islamic Golden Age. A significant part of why this happened was because there was a HUGE plurality of Islamic opinion, there were 135 schools of Islamic jurisprudence! Many of these were very liberal in nature and non-fundamentalist.

Europe at the time had one Church (the Roman Catholic), and dissent was punished with death. Only when Aquinas got his hands on Aristotle (via a Muslim philosopher called Averroes) did the Roman Catholic Church have to deal with increased internal debate, eventually the debate and disagreement reached a level whereby schizms formed (the Reformation) eventually splintering Christianity into smaller groups which eventually got less and less powerful over time, allowing secular thinkers to thrive, ushering in the Enlightenment (and its result of science, reason and secular freedom).

Islamic civilization went backwards when one of the Caliphs banned all but 6 schools of Islamic jurisprudence, tightened up the laws etc. Then later comes Arab Nationalism, then after that Islamic fundamentalism. And now the West is being attacked by Christian fundamentalism which is trying to do the same.

Correlation: Religious Fundamentalism of any religion = stagnation, poverty, agony, killing, dark ages

Therefore, the problem is not "Islamic values" but FUNDAMENTALIST religious values (fundamentalist Islam and fundamentalist Christianity hold the same basic values, the difference is the means that both sides are using to enforce them (terrorism for Islam fundies, political activism for Christian fundies)).

Yes, and in 2-3 years they may ban God of War 2! Oh noes! lol I love how contries ban games years and years after they come out and have become greatest hits and are now in the discount bin at your local game store. =P

wait,islamic values?you mean treating women like 3rd rate citizens,advocating religious intolerance(aka killing all who are not islam in extreme cases)and treating any science like its anothe r excus e to go on a witch hunt.

Cause we all know god of war is so amazingly bad when compared to stoning kids in the village square because they brought ninja turtle comics and acdc cassettes to school/sarcasm

didn't god of war 2 come out quite some time ago....ya think it would be too little too late...

"wait,islamic values?you mean treating women like 3rd rate citizens,advocating religious intolerance(aka killing all who are not islam in extreme cases)"

I wouldn't say those are Islamic values. More like folk traditions.

"and treating any science like its anothe r excus e to go on a witch hunt."

This I haven't heard of. I don't know about today, but I do know that during the Medieval period, the Islamic world had the best science going on of the time.

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@Orange Soda

"This I haven’t heard of. I don’t know about today, but I do know that during the Medieval period, the Islamic world had the best science going on of the time."

I haven't heard of this either. I think most westerners assume that just because more conservative Christians seem to have an aversion to science, that conservative Muslims must too...

I believe during the Islamic "age of enlightenment", back in the medieval times, it was almost considered an act of worship to try to better understand Allah's creations. In fact, the scientific method bears remarkable similarity to some passages in the Qu'ran that talk about exploring nature. This is apparently because the guy who developed the scientific method, studied at Arabic universities in Spain...

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-119627462.html

Islam seems to lump both physical and metaphysical knowledge, so it seems to have a much easier time dealing with the idea that science and religion are separate but non-exclusive.
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The Quran: The World's Bestselling Guide To Censorship.

Yeah, like the Bible isn't... /rolleyes

It's not the book, it's how people with an agenda "interpret" it...
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Thought crime! Thought crime!

ie. blame NOT the religion, but the whackos who abuse the religion.

The troubles rampant in the Muslim world (freedoms, women's rights, etc) are a stark reminder why we have to fight christian agendas in the western world.

The christian zealots are trying to create a taliban-esque society for the US and other nations.

@Zerodash

That's actually a good point. For every person who jumps on this as evidence of how backwards and stupid Islam is, remember, every single one of the US bills was put forth with full support from Christian "we know what's best for you" morality groups...
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I haven’t heard of this either. I think most westerners assume that just because more conservative Christians seem to have an aversion to science, that conservative Muslims must too…---

actually they're the same thing.

this is just one example.

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1684.htm

all conservatives and radicals reach the same point.

They sure seem very selective about cracking down on which pirated games are sold.

Apparently, it's ok to steal the intellectual property from other countries, as long as it doesn't violate Islamic values.

It’s hard changing a firmly entrenched set of cultural norms. Look how long it took western Christianity to stop being such a stick in the mud… and that took gunpowder…---

religion is part of culture. by general rule the culture from those islamic nations is incompatible with let's say... the culture of norway or canada.

Yeah, like the Bible isn’t… /rolleyes

It’s not the book, it’s how people with an agenda “interpret” it… ---

both the bible and the quran are hate books... but the quran wins hands down. i know cause i've read the worst parts of both.

http://www.al-islam.org/Quran/

Ok enough with "islam this.." Islam that", Christainity WAS NOT ANY BETTER during the medival ages. And It doesn't surprise me the ban lags behind times, ever try to import into the Middle East, it's a pain in the ***.

And it DOES break Islamic codes of "conduct" for lack of a better term. In Islam you are not suppose to see a naked woman UNLESS she is your wife. God of war shows a lot of nipples.

@ Jabrwock

And 300 years of reforms.

Nice ignorance. If this was true, every time I go to my cousins house, I would have to fear being killed, and my mom and sister would have to fear being beaten---

nice ignorance of you. he said 'extreme cases'. go back to school and learn to read.

...Christainity WAS...---

that's one of the main points in the whole religion debate, Christianity WAS... Islam IS.

And it DOES break Islamic codes of “conduct” for lack of a better term. In Islam you are not suppose to see a naked woman UNLESS she is your wife. God of war shows a lot of nipples.---

ok, thx for claryfing that. that's the same thing in christianity and other religions too:

Female nipples = bad

Males nipples = Fucking awesome!

funny how those same religions that "don't like" female nipples denounce homosexuality.

what the hell has god of war storyline do with islam?

@Dante

It's not the God of War storyline, but what's in the game, like nipples.

Nipples... so much trouble over something so small :)

Seriously, given that the nipples in question are computer rendered polygons, and not pictures of an actual person, I'd expect that some of the more liberal Muslims might find the game acceptable. The sad thing of course is those people aren't making laws in the UAE, therefore their freedom to choose goes out the window.

It's a shame really, but until a society realises that censorship is a bad thing this is what you'll get.

Gift.

You need to go back to the part where Jesus started teaching people. You know, the part that people are supposed to listen to. Reading the worst parts of X will not give you a good overall understanding of X. ---

baby, i was raised in a roman catholic kinder with nouns, in a roman catholic Opus Dei high school -with only men-, in a roman catholic family, in a roman catholic neighborhood with a church 100 meters away from my house, in a roman catholic city and in a roman catholic nation. oh and i'am currently attending classes at jesuit university, and my grandma wants me to become a priest. oh of course i was baptized and all ;) .

i was talking about the worst parts of both. i've read most of the bible and cathesis and else. so please... don't tell me about the bible or christianity.

Oh dear mother of god NIPPLES???? ***Grabs his pitchfork***
"We got some witches to be burning Ma go get my brother (also known as your father, and my granddad) and we get this taken care of." (Do middle easterners have hillbillies?)

I also love its God of War, not God of War II but God of War ... I wonder if they have gotten around to banning Custard's Revenge yet?

@Moko

Don't call the Holy books a hate book. Are there hateful parts in them? Yes. Does the book overall advocate the hatred? No. I was reminded of the "hate group" comments from a while back, so that's why I reacted the way I did.

@All

I'm not sure, but I think that the multiple gods might have something to do with it. Plus the extreme violence.

Moko, for all the hate you claim is spawned by Christianity and Islam, you seem to be ignoring the fact that you yourself are being a hatemonger.

I never played GoW

what's in it that makes it so offensive to muslims?

@TheBird

Kratos is a Greek. The Eastern Orthodox Church does not get on well with the Muslim World.

This is of course, sidestepping the fact that you fight the Olympian Gods, not Jesus.

It shouldn't be Muslim vs. Christian, it should be people vs. religion. We are in an era when we realize the harmful psychological effects of both of these religions, why are we still arguing for either one? Argue against both, please.

@Seven

Why? We let the kill each other off, and we take care of the survivors.

Why does the title make it sound like as if it was banned today? I live in the UAE, and I know very well that the entire game series is banned a while after the first game was out.

@TheBird: It's offensive due to the nudity in the game.

@Seven

Care to name them? If you can, can you back up the claims?
 
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