Hillary, Obama, McCain Pander to Wrestling Audience

April 22, 2008 -
Politics, as the saying goes, makes strange bedfellows.

And there could be none stranger than seeing Hillary Clinton, who has long decried violence in video games, cozying up to the pro wrestling crowd with a tongue-in-cheek campaign promise that, if elected, she will deliver "the people's elbow" when things get rough.

Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain all appeared in taped WWE promos last night. Obama seemed uncomfortable, cracking only a "Do you smell what Barack is cookin'?" joke toward the end of his remarks.

Clinton's video was more enjoyable, if for no other reason than because it was such a departure from her normally aloof public persona. But, "Call me Hillrod?" A bit much...

John McCain's performance was funny ...and a little scary:
You want to pull out of Iraq? Well I say, no surrender... I'm gonna introduce Osama bin Laden to The Undertaker... [Americans] watch WWE because wrestling is about celebrating our freedom...

Watching these videos brings a few video game-related points to mind:

First, will we ever see major candidates making official appearances within a video game, or even at a video game event?

Second, why is WWE, with its real-life violence, steroid abuse issues, and hyper-sexualized "diva" wrestlers an acceptable venue for presidential candidates while video games are, apparently, not?

Finally, if one of these candidates goes after video game violence in the future, whether as president or as a member of the Senate, they need to be reminded of their political pandering to the wrestling audience.

Comments

@sqlrob

If you did even five minutes of research or hell, actually finished reading that article you would have seen that the "wrestling defense" used in the Lionel Tate case was 100% BS and that Lionel Tate had before he murdered that girl and continued to have a history of behavioral problems, none of which had to do with WWE or prowrestling in general.

You guys have something in common with Hillary now, GG.

@PhoenixZero:

Gee, exactly like games. Fancy that.

Another funny thing about this:

The vast majority of WWE's roster are Republican, IIRC.

@ RobertHMayfire

Plenty of politicians use war, that's just as violent and sexy.

@ sqlrob

It's this kind of thinking that gets us into trouble. When a news source or politician says "Hey, videogames are violent!", gamers line up to say "Hey, so is ____". Usually they go straight to movies, but some talk about books, wrestling, or a number of things. What we should be saying is that videogame violence has no proven harmful effects, and that M rated games shouldn't be sold to children.

Throwing another form of entertainment doesn't help, no matter how much you may or may not like it, especially if that form of entertainment is available in videogame form. While many people scoff at wrestling, and at wrestling videogames, those willing to sit down and play them dispite their bias often find something that's quite enjoyable. Wrestlmania 2000 and No Mercy were favorites of my group of friends though there were only a few wrestling fans among us.

Remember Rob, if we say 'hey, wrestling's just as bad' and they decide to do something about it, are we any better than they are?

Oh no, this is just retarded.

And to add insult to injury, Hillary won Pennsylvania! Get under the biggest damn rock you can find, the Devil's comin' to town!

@NeW SpEcTrUM:

You make it sound like it was a surprise that Hillary won Pennsylvania... but I doubt she won it by enough.

Obama out-spent her on campaign ads 3 to 1, but she still came out ahead. That is a bad sign.

This election has so many wierd things to it, don't vote for Obama your racist, don't vote for hiliray you hate woman, vote for the republican you apprently love the Iraq war and people dieing.

Will there ever be an election ever be about issues and not left vs right?

@Ragnaar

Can't say I'm surprised, but it hurts all the same.

...Damn, do I sound melodramatic.

Would this have even been posted if this was done at a NFL football game that shares all three of those issues? Probably not.

Not surprising to see the next line of political puppets and douchbags parading with more hypocritical bullshit.

I hope the world ends soon :(

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TechnogeekIf the developer were male there wouldn't have been a "conversation" in the first place.10/19/2014 - 2:27am
Montetrolls are just at their absolute worst when it comes to women and feminist. You could bet good money that if the developer were male the trolls would be silent and the conversation would actually focus on the journalism.10/18/2014 - 9:18pm
MontePapa: Not the first time we've had a journalism scandals before, but the harassment never got close to this level; the difference with this scandal is that feminists are involved. Without the feminist angle, their would be A LOT less harrassment10/18/2014 - 9:15pm
Papa MidnightMonte: That's honestly rather short-sighted. As has been proven with other persons who have been targeted, if it wasn't Quinn, it would be someone else.10/18/2014 - 6:26pm
AvalongodI think that's part of what gives an esoteric news story like this real life...it taps into a larger narrative about misogyny in society outside of games.10/18/2014 - 3:29pm
Avalongod@Monte, well the trolls made death threats that came to police (and media attention). I think this is tapping into a larger issue outside of games about how women are treated in society (like all the "real rape" stuff during the last election)10/18/2014 - 3:28pm
WonderkarpZippy : Havent tried the PS4 controller. might later.10/18/2014 - 2:37pm
MonteSeirously, If Quinn was not involved and GG was instead about something like the Mordor Marketing contracts, the trolling would have never grown so vile and disgusting. There have been plenty of movements in the past that never sufferred from behavior..10/18/2014 - 1:57pm
MonteWe have seen scandel's before but the trolling has never been as vile as what we see with GG. Trolls usually have such a tiny voice you can barely notice them, but its like moths to a flame whenever femistist are involved.10/18/2014 - 1:53pm
ZippyDSMleeWonderkarp: You might be able to if you had a PS4 controller.10/18/2014 - 1:00pm
MaskedPixelantehttp://store.steampowered.com/app/327940/ Night Dive starts charging for freeware.10/18/2014 - 12:21pm
Matthew Wilsonthe sad thing is there are trolls on both sides of this. people need to stop acting like their side is so pure.10/18/2014 - 12:19pm
MechaTama31So, only speak out on a scandal that hasn't attracted trolls? I wouldn't hold my breath...10/18/2014 - 10:49am
MonteI feel like GG just needs to die. The movement is FAR to tainted by hatred and BS for it to be useful for any conversation. Let GG die, and then rally behind the NEXT gaming journalism scandal, and start the conversation fresh.10/18/2014 - 10:33am
quiknkoldand we dont have a Dovakin to call a cease fire10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
quiknkoldThe whole thing is Futile. Both sides are so buried deep in their trenchs that there isnt a conversation. Its just Finger Pointing, Name Calling, Doxxing, Threats. there needs to be a serious conversation, and GG isnt it.10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
quiknkoldI thought it was a good article. Jeff is right. I feel like GamerGate did destroy its message. I am for Ethics in game journalism, but man. so much hate. and its on both sides. I've seen some awful stuff spewed on twitter. Its a big reason why I exited..10/17/2014 - 7:34pm
Matthew Wilsonwhile he focused on gg, he did call out both sides crap.10/17/2014 - 7:18pm
Papa MidnightThat was a damn good read offered by Jeff Gertsmann.10/17/2014 - 7:17pm
Matthew Wilsonhttp://www.giantbomb.com/articles/letter-from-the-editor-10-17-2014/1100-5049/ deferentially a nice write up.10/17/2014 - 6:44pm
 

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