congrats Jack on the closest thing to a victory you will ever achieve.

I still don't get this whole "No Mature game advertisements where kids can see them", if the ad itself is like the GTA IV ads, completely innocuous in and of itself, I don't understand the whole concept that it will suddenly turn kids into consumerist Zombies, if there's nothing offensive in the ad itself, why pull it?

I'm sure nobody will know about the game now. With absolutely no coverage on this little known game, it's likely to be over looked entirely... just like the last one.

I'm positive they did it because they where worried about their max machines and email servers.

protective * custody

Take Two should wait until Jack is Disbarred before they take any action against him. That way he will have to actually hire a lawyer out of his own pocket.

Then when he loses he will be penniless.

@zerodash

entirely off topic but ill bite for the sake that im bored....


No that assumption is incorrect,however the number that are turning away from religion as they hit college and start learning about FACTS(you hear me benn stien?)of basic geology,biology and genetics.

With those Facts in hand they can start to deconstruct all the myths their parents handed down to them replacing them with how the real world works,however some never bother to learn this and just take the path of least resistance/laziness aka religion.this is where current generation fundamentalists keep coming from as their entire argument is "if I don't understand it and it doesn't fit what the bible says It must be wrong".

good example of this is the evolution debate in which general religion fanatics attack evolution as if it is not true.This tactic is the incorrect way to approach it as we all know changes over time is a fact,the theory part of it is how it works(much how like gravity is a fact but how it works is a theory...science has a hard time playing absolutes as you can see)The creationist debate is everything poofed into mid air with all features intact but have no evidence to back it up,nor any testing to even point to that thesis to begin with.example:

scientific method=observation>thesis>testing>hypothesis>testing>observation>do everything possible to disprove all previous work>theory>testing>theory>testing>theory>and finally pass it along to repeat until the community feels its a fact.

religion=observation from a book>theory>no testing>do everything possible to prove it correct>plug ears during debate>continue to spew unverifiable thesis>profit

Religions a whole works on the same wavelength of talking out its side while ignoring everything else in order to self propagate its control of the minds of those who follow them.JT works in the same fashion,blurt BS out to get his way while ignoring any and all facts.

Personally i would love JT to show up on GTA4 release day just to see how badly the lynch mob tears into him...

Whoop Dee Fucking Doo.

So what? GTA's so popular that Jack Thompson can't stop the sales from skyrocketing. If anything, they'll be more buyers who will buy it just to spite him.

JT's tactic will only work if said game was an indie title that desperately needs recognition.

So JT took down the bus ads. Big deal. Like those things actually work.

Wow, another of Jack's amazing "victories". Pity it will have no effect on the game or it's sales whatsoever. Anyone who plays games know it's coming out, as do everyone else due to the amount of promotion and airtime it's getting given by the alarmists and people who want to do your parenting for you. How many of the people on this site ever bought a game based soley on the fact that they saw an ad for it on a bus?

Him crowing about an achievement here is like a person boasting about stopping the tide because he has taken a spoonful of water out of the ocean. But that's Jack for you, the King Canute of modern times, railing and screaming at the tide while it pays him no attention and continues on it's way.

Why does this guy keep referring to himself in the third person? At best it's mildly humourous, at worst deeply, deeply arrogant and infuriating.

Which sort of sums up Thompson entirely really...

I'm becoming more and more worries about the games industry, why are the consumers having to protect it? When are they going to start protecting themselves? It's not like they don't have enough money or lawyers.

C'mon, I was obviously joking. Seriously, would he be OK if the game only allowed you to kill criminals? I doubt it.

Congratulations, Mr. Thompson. Contrary to the ass-backwards fairyland you live in, this is your only true victory over Take-Two EVER.

You took down some ads. No one cares.

Jack actually victorious? Someone check the temperature in hell. Methinks it's mighty chilly down there.

Hey guys,does he realize he's bringing more publicity to the game by trying to ban it?

Miami-Dade transit obviously can obviously afford to miss out on the advertising revenue generated by the GTA4 posters...but two cities out of dozens or hundreds is Pyhrric victory at best.

This is ridiculous. I just e-mailed Miami-Dade Transit with this:

"I will first say that I am shocked that the Miami-Dade Transit would pull advertising for a video game simply because some shrew of a lawyer, Jack Thompson, threatened legal action or bad publicity. Thanks for putting up a good fight. Maybe next time, MDT might actually bring courage and integrity to the ball game. Does the MDT even realize the kind of misconduct Mr. Thompson is being sanctioned for by the Florida Bar? The MDT allowed an asinine lawyer, who once submitted pornography in a court docket (viewable to the public), to censor an ad which contains no obscenities. How does that happen?

Now that I've expressed my feelings about this decision, as a public citizen, I want to know the specifics. I want to know exactly what county ordinances the ads violated. Obviously, the advertisement was deemed suitable upon submission. What caused this decision to be overturned? I sure hope that MDT has a pretty damn good answer otherwise, it might just look like MDT bent over for some hackneyed ambulance chaser."

I'm sure everyone here wants to know what city ordinances the ads violated.

Why

Why did they give this man a victory?

The fire was almost extinguished. Almost. It was almost gone guys. ALMOST GONE!

But now, now an oiltanker has fallen on top of it.

I already feel sorry for myself. Sorry for the pain I am going to feel in the future when the results of this hit me.

I read the following somewhere, and Thompson needs to read the second sentence:

The right to free speech and free press does not include the right to subject unwilling individuals to sexual utterences, materials or displays they find obscene. Such unwilling persons, however, cannot deprive access to others who welcome such.

I find the Bible obscene, but you don't see me confiscating JT's copy

I think that, without doubt, a letter-writing campaign to express one's views might be positive. I include relevant E-mails below. Remember, your letter will be MUCH more influential if it is *cordial* rather than explosive.

mayor@miamidade.gov : Mayor
hch@miamidade.gov : Transit deputy-chief
hkapoor@miamidade.gov : Transit director

What about the massive GTAIV ads in game shop windows ten feet from the bus stations? I went for a little walk through my local shopping area today and saw no less than seven different shops proudly advertising the game to anyone who cared to walk by.

It's all very easy getting the advert removed from places which aren't going to make money from product sales. God knows it happens in the UK often enough. But you'll never stop game shops from announcing they have the latest must-buy title, will you?

So wait.. These ads are now pure evil just because someone can LOOK at them? What the hell? It's an M rated game, but that adds don't show any violence, sex, or drugs, and you're telling me that the transit system needs to lose ad revenue because a teen or younger may see the ad?

Here's to hoping Florida and all its stupidity sink into the ocean a lot faster, now. This is beyond retarded, this is just pitiful.

So what happens to the money that was paid to the Transit authority for displaying those posters? Will they try to keep it while also pulling the posters thus negating the whole purpose the money was paid for anyway? Im betting trying to get them to return the money will be like trying to get Jack Thompson to have some ethics.

This is all an exercise in redundancy and ineffectiveness. Ads? Who frackin' cares about ads for GTA IV? The game has such celebrity, that ever if Take Two completely pulled every ad from every source, the game would still sell better than any other game this year. People already know about, they've known for months now. Internet, FTW!

Even more fun, all those public "announcements" warning parents about GTA IV is free advertising.

So the GTA ads are bad but the Sopranos ads which feature an arm sticking out of the trunk of Taxis iplying that a body is inside are perfectly acceptable. http://www.adverbox.com/the-sopranos-hbo/
No double standard there at alll...

We can all say it doesn't matter, but the fact is at the whim of a nearly disbarred overzerious scumbag who is the laughing stock of his proffession got completely suitable for children posters taken down desptie having no images that could cuse offence.
If GTA is so powerful as to ruin kids by seeing a poster in that "lawyers" eyes then he should be sectioned. And prefferably shot.

Wow.
Jack, we are witnessing your future. After you get disbarred, you'll turn into a crotchety old man who resorts to "get those damn kids off my lawn" tactics such as this and believe it to be holy vengeance brought down on the wicked.

What's next for you? Getting rid of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue throughout the state of Florida? It's important to have goals.

Seriously Take Two, get off your asses and file a damn LAWSUIT. This is textbook "content based regulation" of free speech. It's UNCONSTITUTIONAL on its face. Make Jack get into a court room and actually argue Constitutional law.

think rockstar got their money back?

Are we actually sure the response to their removal was because he complained or not someone else? I mean his claim of victory in this situation is that he complained and then they were removed, there's a whole lot of things in the middle missing there. And with his prior experience in claiming to do something but not actually going through with it, I would question if he actually complained at all as well.

@Pixelantes Anonymous:

It reminds me of that crappy M&M's racing game "APPROACHING THE SOUND BARRIER!" as the speedometer reads 20mph.

remember Jack it's just the ads that are being removed, not the game itself.

@Matriculated

If that is indeed true, then yes, Jack's royally boned himself now! Like I say, the Karmic chicken always comes home to roost. ;)

Even if not, like I was trying to say before, Jack may have won this battle, but he's ultimately going to lose the war.

Everyone needs to remember that this is the weekend. Come Monday, if no legal response comes from T2 or R*, then we should get angry and tell them to grow a pair.

Jack Thomspon, scourge of Fax Machnies and Bus Stops.

http://www.local6.com/news/15773787/detail.html

I'm not sure I'd want to move to a State where a fair percentage of Teens think that drinking bleach prevents HIV and that smoking weed is a contraceptive to be honest ;)

Ah... protecting the children from reality, what damage it does...

Let's pretend you're 12-years-old and somehow, you have never heard of Grand Theft Auto before.

Would seeing a bus stop advert of a guy standing there and the words "Grand Theft Auto, April 29th" be that big of a draw to you? Would you suddenly think, "My God! I must have that!"

No, probably not. In fact, if you've never heard of GTA it probably wouldn't even register as a game advert unless you looked closely and saw the 360 and PS3 logos.

Now, let's pretend that you're a 12-year-old who has heard of GTA. Do you honestly think that bus stop add being there or not is going to influence your desire for the game in any way?

No, probably not. If you want it, you're going to want it whether you see that ad or not. If you don't care about GTA, that poster sure as heck ain't going to change your mind.

So, exactly what's the point of getting these ads removed?


Andrew Eisen

(sarcasm) Stopping the bus ads is surely going to prevent minors from wanting this game. Since that was Take-Two's only advertising for GTA4. (/sarcasm)

It was true:

http://gamerush.zoomshare.com/files/news/002565_Jack_Thompson_sends_lett...

"Dear Mrs. Zelnick:

Your son, as you may know (or maybe you don’t know), is Chairman of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc., whose most popular video games are the Grand Theft Auto murder simulator games banned in some countries but sold to children here.

Your son last week was reported to have said the following about Grand Theft Auto IV, due to be released Tuesday, April 29: “We’ve already received numerous [GTA IV] reviews, and to a one, they are perfect scores. My mom couldn’t write better reviews…” Taking your son’s thought, I would encourage you either to play this game or have an adroit video gamer play it for you. Some of the latter gamers are on death row, so try to find one out in the civilian population who hasn’t killed someone yet.

What you will see in your son’s game, if this iteration of GTA is anything like its predecessors, is incredible interactive violence aimed at police officers (whom you can shoot in the head and see the blood spray), innocent bystanders (whom you can run over with your car just for the heck of it), and of course the plentiful female prostitutes you can have sex with and then filet with a knife or stomp with your feet in order to get your money back. Experts note that the recent plethora of cop killings is caused in part by your darling son’s entrepreneurial energy. There are three policemen dead in Alabama because of Grand Theft Auto. I was on 60 Minutes about it. I hope Strauss has provided you with a flat screen tv to see the grief of the bereaved families that fills the screen.

The pornography and violence that your son trafficks in is the kind of stuff that most mothers would be ashamed to see their son putting into the hands of other mothers’ children, but, hey, your son Strauss has recently assured the world that he is “a Boy Scout, everybody knows that.” I’d love to see the merit badges that Scout Troop handed out. Is there a Ted Bundy merit badge? If so, your loving son deserves one now. It should be red and green, for obvious reasons.

With Passover having just come and gone, it is appropriate to note the following from the Old Testament, Proverbs 22:6:

“Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.”

Mrs. Zelnick, did you train up your son, Strauss, to make millions of dollars by pushing Mature-rated video games to children? Any kid can go right to little Strauss’ corporate web site and buy GTA IV with no age verification. Strauss is even marketing the new Grand Theft Auto IV on World Wrestling Entertainment tv shows seen by millions of kids. If you trained up Strauss to do this, then shame on you.

But maybe the explanation for your son’s corporate sociopathy is to be found in Old Testament Proverb 29:15:

“The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.”

Maybe you, Mrs. Zelnick, were so taken by your handsome son that you spared the rod and spoiled the child. That would explain why he has brought you, by the way he presently acts, “to shame.”

There’s another mother you would do well to talk to. Mrs. Crump in Alabama had a son who was a police officer. He’s now dead because a teenaged boy unwittingly trained himself to kill him on Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. She has a grief she carries every day that only a mother can know.There are other such mothers in the heartland of America whose inhabitants your son simply sees as commercial targets.

Your son, this very moment, is doing everything he possibly can to sell as many copies of GTA IV to teen boys in the United States, a country in which your son claims you raised him to be “a Boy Scout.” More like the Hitler Youth, I would say. Happy Mother’s day, Mrs. Zelnick, which this year is May 11, two weeks after your son unleashes porn and violence upon other mothers’ boys. I’m sure you’re very proud.

Sincerely, Jack Thompson"

Serously: that man is a real asshole.

Rodrigo Ybáñez García,

To clarify, Thompson did not send that letter directly to Zelnick's mom. Although the letter is made out to here, he sent it to Take-Two.


Andrew Eisen

SUE HIM! SUEHIMSUEHIMSUEHIM! SUE SOMEBODY, GOD DAMN!

@Rodrigo Ybanez Garcia

He really said that? Jesus Christ, what a $#!$##$$$**bag! I love the "unwittingly trained himself to kill" line. Unless he was already intent on killing, why would he use this so called "training"?

What a great point that Mr. Thompson's complaints just give the games he campaigns against more publicity. I also think that he uses these "crusades" for his own personal gain as well.

@Kincyr:

I'd ask to take a look at it, you'll probably find the Ten Commandments replaced with 'I CAN DO WHATEVER THE F*** I WANT, AND SCREW THE REST OF YOU! HOOAH!'

Hahahaha, what an utter failure you are Jack!

Getting the game's tame posters removed for a highly publicized game that gets released on this Tuesday accomplishes nothing.

Hmmm, didn't the last time something like this happen the courts ruled that the mass-transit was being hypocritical in allowing advertisements for R-RATED movies and "mature" TV shows? And someone remind me, didn't Rockstar get their money back on it, maybe even to the extent the advertisements ended up costing them nothing?

Here is to looking forward to more LOLs in the upcoming days/months...

Like this is going to stop millions of people from buying this game... Cue JT claiming victory in 5...4...3...2...

Why does he refer to himself in the third person? That is some creepy shit.

I would like to propose a challenge to everyone who lives in these cities. Find the highest-resolution GTA4 poster you can, and print it out on multiple sheets of paper. Glue these pieces of paper together on a piece of plywood, and apply some sort of clear laminate or varnish.

Post this board somewhere on your property.

The Florida Bar has disbarment proceedings pending against him anyway, so hopefully he won't be sending idiotic letters and vague threats of litigation for much longer. I know even that probably won't completely shut him up, but at least he won't be able to do so acting as an attorney.

And I second everyone's opinion: The man is a total asshole.

But I'm really looking forward to picking up my copy of the murder simulator du jour on Tuesday.

@PHOENIXZERO

hence the medication =p

I'm at work, I'm bored, you know what I would like^ To read Thompson's press release. The alleged conspiracy he suggests between the video game industry and the judge must be a good laugh.

@Andrew Eisen

So basically he just pulled a "stop it or I'll tell your mom"

A truly infantile jerkass.

@PHOENIXZERO

The power of not being insane compels you! The power of not being insane compels you!

"In the wake of this success, Thompson is proceeding to get all GTA IV ads pulled from all US transit systems"

Today, the Miami-Dade Transit System. Tomorrow, the world!

this is not acceptable.

take two needs to stop this before it becomes a trend everywhere .

What the hell? What the GOD-damned hell? No ruling on this cretin's career foolishness until August? What the HELL is this Judge Davis thinking? What happened to MAY? All this dragging everything out, is only giving him what he wants...

Put a bloody END to this garbage, NOW, Judge.

Is somebody going to have to leave this control freak Neanderthal, out in the wilderness, without a RIDE, just to get him out of our hair? It can bloody happen, if that's what it takes.

Oh well, at least he's more fun when something actually happens rather than the recent 'Jack Whines from his Typewriter' stories ;)

Edit: Sorry, Judge Dava Tunis, not Judge Davis.

But seriously, if we aren't going to put this control-freak Mama's boy down for the count, we should all just move to Communist China... As long as you don't bother anyone or have female children, the govt there is too busy murdering your neighbors to be arsed with what you're doing, Let's just move over there, be quiet, and see what happens to Jack when he sends the courts photos of gay porn, and offends and sues the judges.

Go for it Jack, go to China and do your shit. See what it gets you.

And don't bother with your wasted, idle, sissy threats on me; you can't touch me legally, and have way less power over me physically, I mean WAY less.

If you want to be your mother so badly, just go for it, but leave the rest of us out of it.

Chard,

4d) Kid ends up playing the game somehow; nothing bad happens.


Andrew Eisen

Jack Thompson: Super-douche.

@kurisu7885

Seriously, they should make a show!

I must also add that I'm enraged and offended by this bullshit that Jack has bestowed upon us. But this man disgusts me far too much. I can't even bother...

Its embarrising to be in Florida.

I still say T2 and R* need to send Jack a big royalties check for all the advertising he's done for them. He's no doubt single-handedly boosted sales for all of their titles through his actions by a noticeable extent.

And this is why simply ignoring Jackie-poo won't work.

Seriously, he's helping more than hurting. I feel like Rockstar should cheer him on. ;D

You know, Jack is only using his Persuading Language Tequniques like ...

"Cop Killing Game"

And

"Breaking the ESRB's advertising laws"

as a means of hyping up sensationalism and getting what he wants.

Only us as gamers know what he really wants, and that is to limit the exposure of GTA 4 adds to kids.

But really, if a parents does not want to buy GTA 4 for their kids, all they need to say is NO.

Advertising is only effective when people say YES to it and with their own choise.

I feel that the Bus Transit companies should be aware of who Jack Thompson really is, and to know that his Lawyers Lisisnce is soon to be suspended from the Florida Bar.

Also the Videogame Industry needs to stand up and fight for it's own right not to be pushed around like this.

If they do nothing, that just encourages more people to be just like Jack Thompson knowing that the industry would just do nothing and they get away with this.

I could just imagine Jack Thompson going to a GTA 4 midnight sale with a horn speaking alot of nonsense to the people waiting to get GTA 4 and end up on the news.

I would watch a video of that just for entertainment.

Hey Jack, You're not going to stop GTA sales by taking down bus ads you stupid cunt.

How stupid could these kind of people be. Like the politics. If they stir up controversy for a game more people will buy it. Like Resistance fall of man, and grand theft auto.

@ Zerodash

Actually the trend is the opposite, church attendance among young people is up. More young people today say they believe in God and have at least some spiritual faith than at any time in the last 20 years or so. The high point of agnostic, atheist youth actually came in the mid 1970's.

What IS down is the number of (Thank God) is those who ascribe to JT's "my way or the highway, if you don't believe exactly as I do you're going to burn in hell" fundamentalists.

I guess its the difference between having FAITH And spiritualism and adherence to dogmatic religion.

''Strauss is even marketing the new Grand Theft Auto IV on World Wrestling Entertainment tv shows seen by millions of kids. If you trained up Strauss to do this, then shame on you.
''




lol... what...?

Its wrong to advertise GTA in wrestling ad breaks... wrestling...

grown men slamming each other into the floor, hitting each other with chairs, planks of wood etc to the amusement of a large crowd in the name of 'entertainment'...

so he has no problem with REAL HUMANS actually being violent toward each other... but the bare advertisement of a game that contains violence is innappropriate (no violence is actually shown in the ads, just that the full game does include it)..


the only defence he can possibly have is the 'well wrestling isnt real, so its not reaaaaaal violence...'

yeah fictional violence.. and GTA is what... oh yeah.. fictional violence. Except 10 times more fictional and 10 times less suggestive because it contains polygonal models rather than humans...

man JT infuriates me with his bizaare logic and 3rd person talking.

[...] Link [...]

I really hope that Jack Thompson gets messed over in court so the game company would not have to deal with him. Video games is one of the things that I really enjoying playing and I want JT to back off when there is a million worse things in the US to deal with. Violent video games actually help keep people out of trouble by both keeping them busy and having them let their aggression out. To be honest I really hate JT because he lies so much about people training on games that I like when there is no evidence. I just have a feeling that tomorrow will be a big day for a certain person to be on the news.

T2 should sue...after he's done pimping their game. :)

More and more I see Jack Thompson's actions seem to be anti-T2 more than anti-gaming. There are so many overlooked games with very violent or risque content that Jack Thompson's missing on, because he's too busy focused on Take Two.

I guess if he tried to expand his focus, his efforts on stopping violent games will thin out from being ineffective to worse.

JustChris.

thing is he does not give a shit.

this is about rockstar and it always has been.

its his vendetta.

Honestly, I am more interested is what ad will be replacing the current spot.
I hope it will be a good irony one.

Why hasn't GP posted about the fact that JT wrote a letter to Strauss Zelnick's mother about how she should be ashamed that her son is selling pornography to children.

@ JustChris
And then there is the main reason Jack focuses on Take-Two's Rockstar, it is the only company that has made as much noise and gathered such attention from the media.

I mean no one has said a thing about Gods Of War, nor much about the lackluster Postal series anymore.

There hasn't even been much attention made to those games he has attacked, like Mortal Kombat's Create a Kombatian(I think it was?) character creator allowing people to make characters in whatever likeness they want, some flash games, Halo 3, and probably a few other recent "not Rockstar" title related objections I can't recall off hand.

I couldn't even trigger any other examples, but browsing GP's previous stories, I find the following claim that T2 was in trouble over Bioshock:
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/19/jack-thompson-shocked-by-bioshock/
Big trouble is on the way for Take-Two
Hmm, I think we have heard that one countless times before.... Especially the WRESTLING bit.

The only "main stream" thing he has managed to say something besides their GTA/Manhunt/etc games, was about "Valve's" Counter Strike. Yet even that isn't getting him much main-stream attention these days, almost like the media realized the games were not really the "sims" others made them out to be... Then again, these days people are more interested in the "cartoony" TF2.

Oh Jacky baby.

You have just given Rockstar the biggest amount of advertising money just can' buy.

You Dickhead.

[...] Plenty of updates about the predictable hysteria over the impending release of Grand Theft Auto IV over at GamePolitics. Note, for example, that someone in government actually listened to Jack Thompson, so now Miami-Dade’s bus shelters are safe! Plus, various organizations issue warnings that GTA IV is not for kids. But really, what’s the target audience for that? Is there a group of parents who are so clueless that they don’t read the boxes of what they buy for their kids, but still care enough about exposing their kids to cartoon violence and hookers that they’d listen to an organization with an acronym? [...]

What gives GTA more exposure:

1) Ads on buses; or
2) Endless reporting in all media outlets as to why said ads were removed from busses.

Even when GTA 'loses' they win. Win all the way to the bank.

Genious.

@Dog Welder

He'll file a harassment suit against that someone. Sadly, if he did, I'd have to take his side. I pray it never happens.

@JustChris

Gives me an idea. When he's disbarred, send him an e-mail saying only two words. Two words that gamers everywhere have always despised seeing.


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@ Shadow Darkman, Anti-Thesis of Jack Thompson

Give me his e-mail address and I'll do it. That would be funny as hell

"In the wake of this success, Thompson is proceeding to get all GTA IV ads pulled from all US transit systems since such ads clearly violate promises made by the [ESRB], found right at its web site, not to place “Mature-rated” game ads in venues that will be seen by teens."

I'll add this too: Considering that selling Mature games to minors is NOT illegal, this is a pretty moot point to make. The video games industry takes it upon itself not to sell M games to minors - it's in no way illegal, so they have every right to do it.

@Shadow Darkman

@Adam

I only have his ComCast and it does not work. I already tried to e-mail him.

EDIT: @DavCube

Input that as well as Grandpa Joe’s response, the “you’re a monster” one. Those two lines are why I never have and never will like that movie. Regardless, directed at JT, those work very well.

EDIT2: OMFG 2 strokes of inspiration in a row! PLEASE FORGIVE THE MULTI-POSTS, DENNIS!!!

@DavCube

Dude! Also have the Grinch song, "You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch!" because that would be neat! Plaster JT's face over top of Jim Carrey's Grinch-Make-Up Face! Someone make a YouTube video of that!