Jack Thompson Gets GTA IV Ads Yanked from Miami-Dade Transit

April 26, 2008 -

A complaint by Jack Thompson has prompted Miami's transit authority to remove ads for Grand Theft Auto IV from local bus shelters.

Miami thus joins Chicago as the second major US city to pull GTA IV ads from its public transit system in recent days.

GamePolitics reported on Thursday that Thompson had complained about the GTA IV ads to Miami Mayor Carlos Alvarez. The GTA IV ads were apparently removed sometime on Friday afternoon. Hugh Chen, Miami-Dade Transit's deputy director of operations, told GamePolitics on Friday evening, via e-mail:
 

The posters were removed after a review of our approval process and contract... Be assured that the circumstances around placing and removing  these specific posters were reviewed before action was taken. We are governed by our contract with our shelter contractor and County ordinances.


A spokesman for GTA IV publisher Take-Two Interactive said the company was still reviewing the situation. A spokesman for the ESA referred inquiries back to Take-Two.

For his part, Thompson wasted no time in crowing about the removal of the ads in a news release:
 

...Jack Thompson has today persuaded the Miami-Dade Transit System to pull all advertisements for the Grand Theft Auto IV cop-killing simulation game from its bus stops.


 

In the wake of this success, Thompson is proceeding to get all GTA IV ads pulled from all US transit systems since such ads clearly violate promises made by the [ESRB], found right at its web site, not to place “Mature-rated” game ads in venues that will be seen by teens. 


However, Thompson's contention about the ESRB appears to be incorrect. An ESRB spokesman told GP on Friday, "Considering the overwhelmingly adult demographic profile of mass transit riders... the placement of GTA IV ads in these types of outlets would typically not be in violation of [Ad Review Council] guidelines." Nor do the advertising guidelines listed on the ESRB website appear to support Thompson's contention.

Thompson may be confusing the ESRB ad guidelines with a 2002 report on the marketing of media violence by the Federal Trade Commission which addressed limiting the advertising of M-rated games in media where children constitute a specific percentage of the potential audience. The FTC report notes that the video game industry has a self-regulatory standard prohibiting print ads when children comprise more than 45% of the likely audience.

In his news release, the embattled Thompson also alleged a conspiracy between the video game industry and the judge who presided over his nine-day trial on Florida Bar ethics charges last November. That judge's recommendation on Thompson's future status as an attorney is expected in August.

GP: Readers, don't forget to Send Us Your GTA IV Bus Pix (Before they’re all gone)...

Comments

More and more I see Jack Thompson's actions seem to be anti-T2 more than anti-gaming. There are so many overlooked games with very violent or risque content that Jack Thompson's missing on, because he's too busy focused on Take Two.

I guess if he tried to expand his focus, his efforts on stopping violent games will thin out from being ineffective to worse.

Nothing he can do, (or has ever done for that matter) has hindered thed sale of any of the GTA games.

JustChris.

thing is he does not give a shit.

this is about rockstar and it always has been.

its his vendetta.

Wow, big victory Jack!

It's like claiming a victory against someone who beats the crap out of you, but breaks a nail doing it.

Honestly, I am more interested is what ad will be replacing the current spot.
I hope it will be a good irony one.

Just waiting patiently 'till Tuesday.

We'll see what happens then. All I can say is, the more angry we get at Jack, the more fuel we add to his fire.

Why hasn't GP posted about the fact that JT wrote a letter to Strauss Zelnick's mother about how she should be ashamed that her son is selling pornography to children.

Also, I'm wondering the same thing JustChris is; why does Jack only go against GTA? It could just be Rockstar, and the fact that GTA DOES let you kill cops and hookers doesn't help, but still...

I mean, I love Monolith, they're a great dev. team, and the F.E.A.R. series has thus far been superb. It's also been more bloody and violent than anything I've ever seen/played in any GTA game. Monolith is working with Warner Brother Games now, so why doesn't Jack go after Monolith? He could attack the movie industry AND the gaming industry at the same time!

Again, I love Monolith, and I can't wait until Project Origin comes out :)
My point is that GTA IV isn't the worst game out there.

@ JustChris
And then there is the main reason Jack focuses on Take-Two's Rockstar, it is the only company that has made as much noise and gathered such attention from the media.

I mean no one has said a thing about Gods Of War, nor much about the lackluster Postal series anymore.

There hasn't even been much attention made to those games he has attacked, like Mortal Kombat's Create a Kombatian(I think it was?) character creator allowing people to make characters in whatever likeness they want, some flash games, Halo 3, and probably a few other recent "not Rockstar" title related objections I can't recall off hand.

I couldn't even trigger any other examples, but browsing GP's previous stories, I find the following claim that T2 was in trouble over Bioshock:
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/19/jack-thompson-shocked-by-bioshock/
Big trouble is on the way for Take-Two
Hmm, I think we have heard that one countless times before.... Especially the WRESTLING bit.

The only "main stream" thing he has managed to say something besides their GTA/Manhunt/etc games, was about "Valve's" Counter Strike. Yet even that isn't getting him much main-stream attention these days, almost like the media realized the games were not really the "sims" others made them out to be... Then again, these days people are more interested in the "cartoony" TF2.

I agree with JustChris. How many other games have come out that have been way more violent then GTA. How come when Kane & Lynch (think what you want to about the game, but I liked it. Yes it had it's flaws but all and all it was decent) came out he didn't say a goddamn thing? In that game you get to kill cops and it's chucked full of "F" words and all kinds of shit. How come he doesn't say anything about the God Of War series (which has tons of nudity), True Crime 1 and 2 (which is really violent) or anything like that?

Oh Jacky baby.

You have just given Rockstar the biggest amount of advertising money just can' buy.

You Dickhead.

What the hell? Have we been all drawn into the Dark World, or has JT's competent Dark World counterpart finally come forth and replaced the JT we all know and hate? AGAHNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM!!! (Based on "KHAAAAAN!" by Jim Kirk)

This post is a reference to Zelda 3. IF you don't understand it, play the game.

T.O.S. KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!

Shadow: KNOCK IT OFF!!!

[...] Plenty of updates about the predictable hysteria over the impending release of Grand Theft Auto IV over at GamePolitics. Note, for example, that someone in government actually listened to Jack Thompson, so now Miami-Dade’s bus shelters are safe! Plus, various organizations issue warnings that GTA IV is not for kids. But really, what’s the target audience for that? Is there a group of parents who are so clueless that they don’t read the boxes of what they buy for their kids, but still care enough about exposing their kids to cartoon violence and hookers that they’d listen to an organization with an acronym? [...]

@Anon

Found the comment itself, but for some reason I can't post links:

http ://gamepolitics .com/2007/08/15/dr-phil-invited-me-says-jack-thompson/#comment-144717

Did you do something, Dennis?

What gives GTA more exposure:

1) Ads on buses; or
2) Endless reporting in all media outlets as to why said ads were removed from busses.

Even when GTA 'loses' they win. Win all the way to the bank.

Genious.

You know, I didn't see that letter that Thompson wrote to Zelnick's mother earlier. Clearly, Thompson has stooped to a new low with this. Folks at this site have done everything they can to keep family out of the debate, but you know that if someone sent Jack's wife a similarly-worded letter that Jack would blow a fucking gasket over it.

@Dog Welder

He'll file a harassment suit against that someone. Sadly, if he did, I'd have to take his side. I pray it never happens.

On my previous post, can see Pen Gun's point as well. Jack Thompson is already doing a crappy job attacking Take Two. It would be sensible to think that attacking multiple companies would just make his already bad game even worse.

@JustChris

Gives me an idea. When he's disbarred, send him an e-mail saying only two words. Two words that gamers everywhere have always despised seeing.


G A M E
O V E R

I think the classic Willy Wonka sound byte would work better.

"You get NOTHING. You LOSE. GOOD DAY SIR."

@ Shadow Darkman, Anti-Thesis of Jack Thompson

Give me his e-mail address and I'll do it. That would be funny as hell

God damn. I see worse when I visit the local gas station. Hell, Barns and Noble magazines have suggestive imagery! There was nothing wrong with this ad.

"In the wake of this success, Thompson is proceeding to get all GTA IV ads pulled from all US transit systems since such ads clearly violate promises made by the [ESRB], found right at its web site, not to place “Mature-rated” game ads in venues that will be seen by teens."

I'll add this too: Considering that selling Mature games to minors is NOT illegal, this is a pretty moot point to make. The video games industry takes it upon itself not to sell M games to minors - it's in no way illegal, so they have every right to do it.

@Shadow Darkman

@Adam

I only have his ComCast and it does not work. I already tried to e-mail him.


EDIT: @DavCube

Input that as well as Grandpa Joe's response, the "you're a monster" one. Those two lines are why I never have and never will like that movie. Regardless, directed at JT, those work very well.

@Shadow Darkman

@Adam

I only have his ComCast and it does not work. I already tried to e-mail him.

EDIT: @DavCube

Input that as well as Grandpa Joe’s response, the “you’re a monster” one. Those two lines are why I never have and never will like that movie. Regardless, directed at JT, those work very well.


EDIT2: OMFG 2 strokes of inspiration in a row! PLEASE FORGIVE THE MULTI-POSTS, DENNIS!!!

@DavCube

Dude! Also have the Grinch song, "You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch!" because that would be neat! Plaster JT's face over top of Jim Carrey's Grinch-Make-Up Face! Someone make a YouTube video of that!

i hate jack thompson i see his name on internet all the time cus hes complaining about grand theft auto.. the guy needs to grow up im sick of hearing about him

Re:

I have to sme the same thing. Congratulations to him. I am sure that this is what he has been waiting for since he first started this whole work. And I would also like to add a little piece of advice. I think he could ever make things even better by accepting the help of payroll services.

 
 
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Michael ChandraSo really the guy's own words strike me as "wah! How dare you disagree with me!" behaviour, which is the sort of childish attitude I am unfortunately not surprised by.10/20/2014 - 2:17pm
Michael ChandraCorrect AE, but then again the owner's own words are about "wishes", not about an order. No "we told him not to", but going against his wishes.10/20/2014 - 2:16pm
Matthew Wilsonyup. sadly that has been true for awhile.10/20/2014 - 2:10pm
james_fudgewelcome to 2014 politics. Increasingly fought online10/20/2014 - 1:54pm
E. Zachary KnightIt is honestly a shame that anyone has to publicly state they are against such vile behavior, but that is the sad life we live.10/20/2014 - 1:46pm
E. Zachary KnightDecided to publicly reiterate my opposition to harassment campaigns. http://randomtower.com/2014/10/just-stop-with-the-harassment-and-bullying-campaigns-already/10/20/2014 - 1:45pm
Andrew EisenMichael Chandra - Unless I overlooked it, we haven't seen how the directive to not talk about whatever he wasn't supposed to talk about was phrased so it’s hard to say if it could have been misconstrued as a suggestion or not.10/20/2014 - 12:35pm
Andrew EisenHey, the second to last link is the relevant one! He actually did say "let them suffer." Although, he didn't say it to the other person he was bickering with.10/20/2014 - 12:29pm
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Andrew EisenNeo_DrKefka - "Attacking"? Interesting choice of words. Also interesting that you quoted something that wasn't actually said. Leaving out a relevant link, are you?10/20/2014 - 11:04am
quiknkoldugh. I want to know why the hell Mozerella Sticks are 4 dollars at my works cafeteria...are they cooked in Truffle Oil?10/20/2014 - 10:41am
Neo_DrKefkaAnti-Gamergate supporter Robert Caruso attacks female GamerGate supporter by also attacking another cause she support which is the situation happening in Syia “LET SYRIANS SUFFER” https://archive.today/F14zZ https://archive.today/Wpz8S10/20/2014 - 10:18am
Neo_DrKefkaThat is correct in an At-Will state you or the employer can part ways at any time. However Florida also has laws on the books about "Wrongful combinations against workers" http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/448.04510/20/2014 - 10:07am
james_fudgehe'd die if he couldn't talk about Wii U :)10/20/2014 - 9:16am
Michael ChandraBy the way, I am not saying Andrew should stop talking about Wii-U. I find it quite nice. :)10/20/2014 - 8:53am
Michael Chandra'How dare he ignore my wishes and my advice! I am his boss! I could have ordered him but I should be able to say it's advice rather than ordering him directly!'10/20/2014 - 8:52am
Michael ChandraIf GP goes "EZK, do not talk about X publicly for a week, we're preparing a big article on it" and he still tweets about X, they'd have a legitimate reason to be pissed.10/20/2014 - 8:52am
Michael ChandraIf GP tells Andrew "we'd kinda prefer it if you stopped talking about Wii-U for 1 week" and he'd tweet about it anyway, firing him for it would be idiotic.10/20/2014 - 8:51am
Michael ChandraLegal right, sure. But that doesn't make it any less pathetic of an excuse.10/20/2014 - 8:50am
ZippyDSMleeYou mean right to fire states.10/20/2014 - 8:50am
 

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