Tivo Alert: Jack Thompson on Glenn Beck Show Tonight
Tivo Alert: Jack Thompson on Glenn Beck Show Tonight
May 1, 2008
We've just had an e-mail from Miami attorney Jack Thompson (left) to say that he would be on the Glenn Beck program on CNN Headline News this evening at 7PM & 9PM Eastern (second one is a repeat)...
GTA IV will be the topic, along with, apparently, Thompson's issues with the Florida Bar.
Thompson will also be on NPR's Talk of the Nation at 2:40 PM Eastern.
UPDATE: It's on as I type this. Adam Sessler from G4TV is leading off... Now a guy who played GTA IV for 28 hours straight... Now Thompson, who says that he is portrayed in the game and claims that gamers vandalized his house last night.
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Posted 07/04/09 at 09:24pm
PHX Corp: For those that want to know what i watching it's called man vs cartoon(a.k.a fixing Wile E. coyote's Mistakes one trap at a time by EMERTEC)
PHX Corp: For those that want to know what i watching it's called man vs cartoon(a.k.a fixing Wile E. coyote's Mistakes one trap at a time by EMERTEC)
Posted 07/04/09 at 08:20pm
GoodRobotUs: Went out for my Mum's 65th Birthday, which is the only relevance 4/7 has in the UK for me ;)
GoodRobotUs: Went out for my Mum's 65th Birthday, which is the only relevance 4/7 has in the UK for me ;)
Posted 07/04/09 at 08:18pm
Andrew Eisen: Beach + fireworks + root beer + strawberries, blackberries, raspberries, whipped topping, and pound cake = my Fourth of July!
Andrew Eisen: Beach + fireworks + root beer + strawberries, blackberries, raspberries, whipped topping, and pound cake = my Fourth of July!
Posted 07/04/09 at 07:58pm
GoodRobotUs: Which seems to be the only point Jack proved, that some people find some games offensive. i.e. Nothing.
GoodRobotUs: Which seems to be the only point Jack proved, that some people find some games offensive. i.e. Nothing.
Posted 07/04/09 at 07:57pm
GoodRobotUs: The discussion was supposed to be whether games were dangerous not 'Do you find some games offensive'...
GoodRobotUs: The discussion was supposed to be whether games were dangerous not 'Do you find some games offensive'...
Posted 07/04/09 at 07:55pm
GoodRobotUs: Some agreed, some didn't, but it was their choice to make, not the governments.
GoodRobotUs: Some agreed, some didn't, but it was their choice to make, not the governments.
Posted 07/04/09 at 07:55pm
GoodRobotUs: By asking the audience their opinion, he more or less proved that it's a matter of personal choice
GoodRobotUs: By asking the audience their opinion, he more or less proved that it's a matter of personal choice
Posted 07/04/09 at 07:55pm
GoodRobotUs: Meh, he ended proving Mark's point for him
GoodRobotUs: Meh, he ended proving Mark's point for him
Posted 07/04/09 at 07:26pm
Erik: Jack if you are reading this you are a LIAR. There is no legal weight to the MPAA's ratings.
Erik: Jack if you are reading this you are a LIAR. There is no legal weight to the MPAA's ratings.
Posted 07/04/09 at 07:24pm
JDKJ: I still think my buddy the midget who rides a unicycle backwards while juggling four bowling pins would have been a much bigger hit with that crowd. And he can make up statistics and misinterpret studies, too.
JDKJ: I still think my buddy the midget who rides a unicycle backwards while juggling four bowling pins would have been a much bigger hit with that crowd. And he can make up statistics and misinterpret studies, too.
Posted 07/04/09 at 06:33pm
Alyric: Of course, Mark falls into the common trap about Columbine, which had nothing to do with bullying, etc. See: http://slate.msn.com/id/2099203/?GT1=3256 for a more thorough explanation.
Alyric: Of course, Mark falls into the common trap about Columbine, which had nothing to do with bullying, etc. See: http://slate.msn.com/id/2099203/?GT1=3256 for a more thorough explanation.
Posted 07/04/09 at 06:32pm
PHX Corp: Read this http://www.destructoid.com/sgc-09-liveblogging-the-jack-thompson-debate-138502.phtml#ext
PHX Corp: Read this http://www.destructoid.com/sgc-09-liveblogging-the-jack-thompson-debate-138502.phtml#ext
Posted 07/04/09 at 05:54pm
PHX Corp: JT is afraid of such ban then advocates it That's what i call a total Hypocrite
PHX Corp: JT is afraid of such ban then advocates it That's what i call a total Hypocrite
Posted 07/04/09 at 05:50pm
PHX Corp: AE: JT is a -Bleeping- Jackass
PHX Corp: AE: JT is a -Bleeping- Jackass
Posted 07/04/09 at 05:07pm
Andrew Eisen: JT "knew it would be a good audience." Not what he said on Tuesday.
Andrew Eisen: JT "knew it would be a good audience." Not what he said on Tuesday.
Posted 07/04/09 at 05:01pm
Andrew Eisen: VG cause violent behavior. VG companies influence behavior to get sales. Yeah, that makes sense. (To be fair, the Twitter feed makes deciphering JT's point pretty tough.)
Andrew Eisen: VG cause violent behavior. VG companies influence behavior to get sales. Yeah, that makes sense. (To be fair, the Twitter feed makes deciphering JT's point pretty tough.)
Posted 07/04/09 at 04:52pm
Andrew Eisen: Yes, it's been proposed but as far as I know it has not been passed. Big difference.
Andrew Eisen: Yes, it's been proposed but as far as I know it has not been passed. Big difference.
Posted 07/04/09 at 04:50pm
Cheater87: http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/formats/xbox360/all-violent-video-games-be-banned-in-germany-$1301757.htm
Cheater87: http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/formats/xbox360/all-violent-video-games-be-banned-in-germany-$1301757.htm
Posted 07/04/09 at 04:49pm
Andrew Eisen: Far as I know, Germany has not banned all violent video games.
Andrew Eisen: Far as I know, Germany has not banned all violent video games.
Posted 07/04/09 at 04:44pm
Cheater87: Jack wants the US to follow Germany's total video game ban.
Cheater87: Jack wants the US to follow Germany's total video game ban.
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That is all to common. Apparently the only way they are stop a game from selling is to make people tried of hearing about it. I have learned to hate games I never played just because even after the game stops being popular there will be some group that will bring it back up just to bash on it. Toss in JBT who never knows when to quit and.... well you can pretty much figure out the rest.
You forgot one thing:
11) I lost my train of thought.
also.. if he goes on tv and openly criticises GTAIV, and perhaps (predictably) calls for sales of it to be banned.. isnt hat infringing the agreement hehas with take two?
@GP
can you possibly attempt to record this and post a link to it when available?
Fail
Also, @Gaddez, you fail on multiple levels.
evidently Glenn Beck thinks GTA IV is a kids' game. Ironically enough, he wrote a book with this tagline:
This will be GREAT TV for "moral crusaders" everywhere.
So he is likely ti discuss the Florida Bar eh? Figure he is going to try to make them look high handed or criminal. Show how Judge Tunis is against him and should be stripped of her robes (before she can do anything to him). Sad the things that draw news.
1.) I was on 60 minutes.
2.) I wrote a book.
3.) Buy my book.
4.) I predicted Columbine.
5.) I represented families in Kentucky, Alabama etc.
6.) Cop-killing/murder simulators.
7.) These kids are are training, quite literally, to kill.
8.) V-Tech shooter was gamer/fan of Counter-Strike.
9.) These "murder simulators" are marketed to kids.
10.) The Florida Bar is persecuting me because I am a Christian/whistle blower/Batman "Christ" Revere in a briar patch.
There, that will be JT's "interview". Hope that saved everyone some time and brain cells.
You would think that if you had GTAIV, you would be playing it instead of reading this...
I don't own it myself, but it might interesting to see how this interview will turn out.
(so he already has no idea who JT really is.)
Guys, this will be about as balanced and fair as the Alamo.
Can we talk about something other than GTA IV now?
Seriously.
JT: "Tunis recently asked for an extension on the deadline for her verdict. This is unfair because i won't be able to spend time with my wife. She has cancer you know.
???: "Didn't the proceedings end in December?"
JT: "......I was on 60 minutes."
???: "That's... nice, Mr. Thompson."
I can't see any serious peoples seeing this trash. Jack won't get any more audience that he got with Fox News.
He's going to just ask JT questions out of the "Questions JT wants to be asked" handbook, agree with everything he says wholeheartedly, then claim afterwards that he asked tough questions and got real legitimate answers based on facts.
I wrote a comment to him asking if he'll discuss the many John Bruce quotes available on his wikiquote page. Or if he'll mention that GTA IV was not designed for children etc. I was very respectful.
You forgot:
11) I drafted a law that unanimously passed.
It is important for us all to be paying attention to this. With the popularity of Second Life being a political arena now, the idea that video game releases are now being considered potential cinerama box office money siphons, and how much publicity that games are getting (TV shows, news segments, constant coverage on the interwebs etc), the importance of us watching this and respond is undeniable.
We have to speak up for our hobbies. As sad as it is that these people let so much fear, and snobbish attitudes rule their lives, we have to be able to listen.
I'll be tuning in.
He is kinda over the top when it comes to culture issues, but he's not as bad as Michael "Movies with smoking should be rated R" Medved. On politics, he really does have a lot of common sense, but seriously, if games really were training kids to visit prostitutes and then kill them, how come it never actually happens in real life? There are an incredible amount of gamers in the country. I don't know how many so I won't speculate, but if they really were "murder simulators", how come there isn't rioting?
I was just going to say that. The people that watch shows like Glenn Beck and have people like Jack Thompson on have alreayd made up their minds and will agree. There is nothing we can do to change their minds.
Secondly, In a few months when JT is disbarred who is going to want him on TV?
no way glenn rips into him. Glenn totally agrees with jack. according to the discussion they put on glenn's website today. he things games alone are the single cause for the depravity of our culture.
In addition to what other have predicted he'll say, chances are he'll also talk about how all of us gamers are "morons" and that Dennis and the ECA are "industry shills."
Fortunately I take solace in the fact that Jack continues to lose credibility with each passing day and he won't be a lwayer for much longer. At this point, people are starting to get wise to Jack. People are now seeing that after several GTA games, civilzation has yet to collapse, regardless of Jack predictions of how the latest game will put people "in the ground." :P
Yes, please. Both of you write a letter to him. You can honestly say you were fans of his show and can couch the language in such a way that he will understand where you car coming from. I'm afraid that if I tried I would come off as being critical, contradictory, and offensive. Just reading his show excerpt on it I wanted to scream. There are three people and two of them think the game is fine, but of course it is the host who is sure he is correct even though he is in the minority.
For the record, I'll be giving this a pass. I think that watching that would give my blood preasure more of a rise then getting hit with three blue shells right before I would have finished Star Road with tripple starts on the 150cc class.
I, personally, would love to believe that there is a conspiracy against him because then he would have something to do besides trolling all news sources for tragedies around the world he can blame on video games.
I am just waiting for something big to happen like a tornado hit a nuclear plant and it explodes. Jack Thompson jumps into action (on Fox, of course) and immediately starts blaming Sim City because it teaches people who to control the weather to destroy facilities like nuclear power plants and that it is a civilian killing simulator.
I am surprised we didn't see him on Fox talking about every hunting arcade game on the planet when Dick Cheney shot his friend while hunting. Maybe his wife wasn't sick at the time and had the strength to prevent him from looking like a complete ass.
I guess he will talk about all the violence in the history of the world and how it was all based on primitive video games and how the illuminati has plans to kidnap him to help increase their profit shares with the Take 2 EA deal and they won't stop prank calling him until he does.
Why anyone would give him a spot on national tv, let alone the time of day (looks a little pedo... ish in his picture there) to spread more propaganda is beyond me.
I can't wait to have him disbarred and have the Jack Thompson spam engine brought to a screeching (and probably kicking) halt. It will give him the opportunity to see what a real lawyer does during work hours.
he tried that once, and he couldn't explain it.
one time he called into a radio station, and got so angry he hung up at one other time :D
you leave Iron Man out of this. Him, Professor Xavier and their illuminati have nothing to do with J.T. looking like an ass....or do they?
1) Jack complains about GTA4, he gets some cable air time, and convinces some t.v. hosts with no real minds of their own that he is right.
2) A month goes by.
3) Everyone forgets what Jack was complaining about, GTA4 keeps breaking sales records, and nothing has changed.
satin? Or Satan?
Cheater, I can't listen to it here, what's going on with Adam Sessler?
Nothing I'm interested in seeing or hearing.
Gift.
I'd love to be the satin of anything. Satin is nice, soft and shiny.
I think you meant Satan.
Glen Beck:Videogames are bad!
JT:Totally!
GB:Wow! We have so much in common!
JT:Let's take off our shirts and kiss!
GB:What?!
JT:Ugh...nothing, nothing...
"Jack ended with “I’m done? Oh, well I’ll go play the game now. *click*”"
Not surprised by that one, everyone is running their mouths off without at least seeing what they are allegedly bitching about...
"claims that gamers vandalized his house last night."
Oh, how is he sure it wasn't Rockstar or the Florida Bar? Even the government is out to get him, so maybe the FBI decided to have a little fun...
1. How does he knows gamers were the ones that vandalized his house? Did they do it in 1337 speak? Was it done with pixel art?
2. What does that ahve to do with the game? Does he feel the murder simulator made them vandalize his house?
3. Has anyone gotten to the supposed likeness of JT yet? Is it anything like him? I didn't see anything on the warning label about horrific imagery...
Oops, I forgot, that was in Jack's head along with other various stories like how he single handedly fought off Napoleon, Genghis Khan, Cobra, Skeletor, and a pack of evil Amazonian Pygmies while winning a poker championship match on a steamboat speeding out of control, upstream, on the river stix.
Pathetic.
Truly Pathetic.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
Did the ECA get Adam to do this, or did he do it on his own? Or was it just Rockstar's doing? Whoever it is, they do need a round of applause for taking the incentive, especially if it is the ECA for putting someone with the facts against the lairs & misinformed.
Like the ECA admitted in the past, their problem was ignoring such issues and letting "massacre chasers" take over.
Thompson's response was a petulant, "I'm not telling you."
SS or it didn't happen.
Seriously, SS, please. I just want to see it =)
I don't think you will get fair and balanced reporting from any source that has made up it's mind about the story before they investigate it.
I also doubt the veracity of Jack's statement, as we all know he loves to play the victim/martyr card (as most Born Agains do) and will take any opportunity to make us gamers look bad.
If true, however, it only continues to demonstrate how dense Jack is. The notion that he has brought all this trouble on himself because he has acted like a total dick to just about everyone he has met continues to escape him.
I know every time I try to spray paint graffiti on someone's house, that damn cord gets in the way.
It should be available around 6pm EST today.
The NPR one will be posted on NPR's site around 6pm. I'd give ya a link, but prior posts where I've done such today are jammed in the spam filter.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
That list of 10 things you wrote, maybe you can turn it into a drinking game with GP buddies. Every time Jack Thompson does one of his "trademark quotes" you take a swig.
While I am in no way condoning the actions of anyone, gamer or non-gamer, who vandalize someone's house, I will be quick to point out that this is why you're completely retarded if you put your personal information out on the internet. Jack calls people cowards for not doing so.
Wouldn't we die from alcohol poisoning?
No they wouldn't. They're too damn calm and forgiving from playing videogames. :D
That's where you bring in escaped cons. They have nothing to lose, and they'd be doing us a favor by taking out Jack permanently.
Kindly stop proving Jack right about psychopathic gamers who want him dead.
Wow, I guess he never played Fahrenheit.
Also, priceless when they shut him down at the end and you can hear him actualy slams the phone down.
Riiight.
Better not tell him about all those adult games for kids coming from our friends in Asia....
Or maybe we should
"That list of 10 things you wrote, maybe you can turn it into a drinking game with GP buddies. Every time Jack Thompson does one of his “trademark quotes” you take a swig."
My only concern is that people would die from alcohol poisoning :o
@Waffles and cppcrusader
Arrgh! Can't believe I missed those two!! Well, let's tally it to twelve and if you're gonna do the JT Quote Drinking game please be safe about it :)
Seems that the audio is up.
If my previous posts appear later, I appologize for the double posts.
I only own two DVD's... and that is one of them.
I personally think it is the all-time best Fantasy-themed movie made. It just works too well in too many ways, and never takes itself really seriously, but still provides an awesome story :)
Props to Adam for handling most things very well. Only catch was he was too eager to expose Jack's comments.
Some props to the reviewer who was 28 hours into the game. He was able to provide some info on the contents.
No props to JT, who phailed. Came off as fairly offensive. What is funny is that the game only has a label for partial nudity, which is likely either a thong or a fleeting glimpse of the buttocks. And yet it seems to be the hardest (hetero) porn that JT has ever seen. Why does this not surprise me?
Was pretty disappointed in the one caller who called in with the collectors edition. He sounded pretty bad. Just sounded like the stereo typical fan boy, complete with speach impediment. He didn't help the image and his responses were more damaging the JT's, I feel.
As for Amy who was upset at her husbang playing the game... have you talked to him about it? Have you had a conversation asking why he found things funny which upset you? Is this the games fault, his fault, your fault, or just a case of miscommunication?
[/DrPhil]
I actually am waiting for the hype to die down, but it will be some time before people stop blaming games.
Look up "Glen Beck" and "Iranian video game" on youtube to hear his one-sided represention of the Iranian student-made game responding to a campaign in the game "Kuma War" (he never mentioned why the Iranian students made the game).
His recent rant a few months back complaining about the war between HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray. He was angry about how geeks determined the hi-def format and connected to how the PS3 having a Blu-Ray drive (he was angry about the gamers role in how Blu-Ray won the format war). He got many facts wrong in his story (Transformers used to be HD-DVD exclusive, instead he said that it was Blu-Ray exclusive).
In my own opinion, it really not surprising to hear that John Bruce will be apearing on his show.
Read the update at the top please? They're not talking about the CNNHN thing. They're talking about the radio appearance.
I'll show this to my non-gamer and gamer friends to prove his citizenship of "retard-nation"
He must love when violent or controversial games come out, because now it means he'll be all over the net and on TV. A master of self promotion.
"Popular game, serious problem
The new "Grand Theft Auto" video game is out... projected to sell 9 million copies by the end of the year. That's possibly $450 million in revenue for a game that teaches our children to lie, rape, and murder. Glenn weighs in.
Tonight, 7 and 9 ET."
Sessler took no time about laying into Jack's arguments with no mercy. Had Pity that Beck interceded, I would have liked to hear some real verbal sparrign between JB and a games industry rep who knows his stuff and is prepared to meet him eye to eye.
Not surprised, that seems to be his usual tactic when he can't take over and run the whole show.
Remember the G4 debate?
@ mogbert
And yet it seems to be the hardest (hetero) porn that JT has ever seen. Why does this not surprise me?
Considering the fuss he made about Bully's not-hetero kissing, I'm not surprised either.
Now that I think of it, if he is pushing the "porno games sold to kids" angle, he has to go this route because the "corruption of a minor" is the only thing he really has left.
The only thing that surprises me is all that gay porn he went through and submitted....
@ Jonnyboy
Fffft on that "teaching children" bit, my only reply is that so do easily accessible R-Rated & UN-rated movies.
Hmmm, wonder what he feels about CSI and court-room drama shows...
Someone call the lawyers.
Three small-minded nutjobs agree with each other for five minutes
As for jacks typical arguments:
"I appeared on Ed Bradley"
"Devin moore trained on GTA"
"Cho trained on counter-strike." (One of the lies I mentioned)
"The ESRB is lying"
yadda yadda yadda. I'm suprised he didn't plug his book.
So the classic sihlouette on a target was the granddaddy of video games? You're still shooting the sihlouette in REAL LIFE, not on an electronic piece of plastic with buttons!
And Jack... where'd all the 'oral and anal sex' bullcrap come from? What, because it's what the prostitutes SAY they're going to do? SAYING IT and SEEING IT are two completely different things.
This is just... oye...
shall we leave feedback?
anyone want to read a duffy rant go down to the shrink dude story who doesnt understand why adults play gta...hope everyone is chill
Glenn Beck: "Rev. Wright says parts of his speech were taken out of context. Good!!! They sound much worse than they actually are when taken out of context!!!!!!!! Also Mexicans!!!!"
hour 2 downloadable audio available.
I also like how he only referred to men playing. Because we all know that no women play videogames.
Host: "What law inforcement agency's are you working with?"
John Bruce Thompson: "I'm not going to tell you."
Host:"Then it was nice having you on the show."
John Bruce Thompson: "I'm done?"
Host: "Your done."
Best ending to an JT interview yet. Jack's ego just got him the boot.
He was always biased against video games.
Still, Mr. Beck should expect to feel the wrath of gamers everywhere in the wake of this, regardless of what he thinks of them. I have a feeling what was done to Kevin McCullough over Mass Effect seem tame in comparison, so he ought to brace himself for what's coming...
"The thousand nations of the Gamer Empire descend upon you!!!"
It really says that? Good lord, what a damn liar.
Basically, it was just a rant. They all repeated the same lies and bullshit we've been hearing for years.
I'm behind your statement about the whole Gamer Empire thing 100%. I have a feeling that this whole thing will be even more epic than the Fox News-Mass Effect debacle.
I want you and everyone else know that you can upload a video email through CNN.com to Glenn Beck. The instructions are on the Glenn Beck section on CNN.com. It's under "Tell Us What You Really Think". I would send out a video mail, but I don't have the necessary equipment to do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzr138ijmaQ
And here's part 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqSCLrtioEI
Yeah, I'd definitely say flooding his mail is in order, as well as clogging the phone lines of his radio show. Let him know how much of an idiot Jack is and that he's about to be disbarred. But above all, as angry you may be, be intelligent. Not that Beck will be inclined to listen. From his attitude, he sounds like the kind of person who would dismiss out of hand any difference of opinion soley based on who it was coming from. But a flood of articulate rebuttals as well as denunciations of JT will be ought to show there are plenty of well-spoken gamers out there and we're not all a bunch of "losers" like he thinks.
The only people that watch Glen Beck are people too stupid to form their own decisions anyway.
Oh well. He'l always have a place on Fox News when CNN fires his ass.
They wouldn't want to do that. He's their "See?, we're not liberal biased! We got both!" guy. Also, despite the idiocy, I still like him waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy more than that freaky broad Nancy Grace.
No surprise here.
Show us a photo of it, Jack, if you don't want me to call B.S. on your claim.
T.O.S.: LIES!!!
Shadow: Who's lying? Me, or him?
T.O.S.: Who do you think?
Shadow: I think it's him, yet I'm very suspicious of it being me.
I will never get that image out of my head you asshole
Quite possible the most EPIC PHAIL in the history of the internet
@Black Manta
ALL HAIL HALO, ALL HAIL GTA, ALL HAIL MARIO!!!