Police Fret Over GTA IV's Drunk Driving

May 2, 2008 -
If you've experienced the "drunk driving" aspect of Grand Theft Auto IV, you know that it is pretty annoying. It makes it very difficult to control your ride.

Beyond that, it's not a requirement. Nor is it a something that furthers your progress in any way.

But, as GamePolitics reported earlier this week, Mothers Against Drunk Driving have called for the ESRB to re-classify GTA IV as "Adults Only" based on the DUI feature.

Savannah, Georgia TV station WSAV-3 reports that the Traffic Commander of the Savannah-Chatham Police Department is also concerned. Lt. Scott Simpkins told WSAV:
How many people are going to go 'hey if I can master this, I can go out and instead of having a glass of wine or a beer with dinner, I can have 2 or 3 because I've been training how to drive intoxicated'? So these are the things that I have to worry about when stuff like this hits the market.

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Re: Police Fret Over GTA IV's Drunk Driving

 <sarcasm> COOL I just found out through my awesome new training device called GTAIV that I can go on a killing spree, ram into a bunch cars, and when I get bored I just my cell phone and dial 2675550100 and the police will no longer chase me. I'm off to try out how well my GTAIV training has taught me guys. </sarcasm>

also.. if i can do all these things in games with no consequence... then why would i actually do them in real life i mean seriously...

surely if i do it in a game and think 'this is cool' (driving DUI, killing people whatever), and (allegedly by every critic) there is a complete lack of consequence, WHY OH WHY would i make the move to real life?

Apparently its 'SO REALISTIC' and 'HARD TO DISTINGUISH FROM REALITY', so to that end, WHY would i ever make th move to commiting the acts in reality.

I have a choice.. do it in a game, do it in real life.. both are Equally real (according to the critics) but one has a lack of consequences (acording to critics) and one has severe consequences.

So surely this game wouldnt in any way encourage people to do it in real life. They have a sand box where they can do it free from prosecution or actual harm.

They cant have it both ways.

I once played Defender while drunk. And I did pretty good. Obviously this means that if the Earth were invaded by aliens, I could have an extra couple of drinks before going off to save the world.

"So these are the things that I have to worry about when stuff like this hits the market."

People of GA: Please remember this in the next round of sheriff's elections and vote for the guy who 'worries about' about domestic violence, home-made drugs and high unemployment rates.

...you're an idiot. See my comments from the MADD post - officially endorsed programs designed to prevent kids from drinking and driving ALREADY DO THIS (simulate drunk driving so kids will understand how much alcohol interferes with your ability to drive).

Now a video game is doing what these programs are already doing, but because it's a video game it's BAD instead of GOOD?

"How many people are going to go ‘hey if I can master this, I can go out and instead of having a glass of wine or a beer with dinner, I can have 2 or 3 because I’ve been training how to drive intoxicated’? So these are the things that I have to worry about when stuff like this hits the market."

Jesus Mudder Fkn Christ. About as many people who think after flying the harrier in San Andreas that they could pilot a real vtol aircraft. Shoot this guy please for the sake of the gene pool.

Really, do these people think you turn into an idiot if you happen to play videogames? If you're old enough to drink and drive (pun not intended) you're usually wise enough to realize that there's a difference between fictional worlds and the real one. Apparently this Simpkins guy is an exception...

Besides, driving drunk in GTAIV is a bad idea as the cops tend to get on your ass. That and you can't see/drive worth shit. So if anything it discourages you from drunk driving.

Drunk driving.. hell just being drunk in GTA is such a pain in the rear that I dont bother trying to drive drunk. I wait until i can actualy get a damn taxi to stop and take it back to my safehouse or to whoevers place I was out with.

Master it? honestly. you cant hope to Master it. its random as hell

I don't know why, but some time
after completing Crackdown, I go
in to a "search mode" whenever
I hear a humming noise. Oh wait...
there it is again. I'll be back in a moment...

guys, does anyone know how to get blue sparks in my car i keep trying but no shoulder button on my steering wheel

I wish these people would learn to tell the difference between reality and games.

Or maybe players will realize how hard and stupid it is to drive drunk and take a cab or walk home. Both choices offered in the game.

[...] wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptIf you’ve experienced the “drunk driving” aspect of Grand Theft Auto IV, you know that it is pretty annoying. It makes it very difficult to control your ride. Beyond that, it’s not a requirement. Nor is it a something that furthers your progress in any way. But, as GamePolitics reported earlier this week, Mothers Against Drunk Driving have called for the ESRB to re-classify GTA IV as “Adults Only” based on the DUI feature. Savannah, Georgia TV station WSAV-3 reports that the Traffic Commander of the Savannah-Chatham Police Department is also concerned. Lt. Scott Simpkins told WSAV: How many people are going to go ‘hey if I can master this, I can go out and instead of having a glass of wine or a beer with dinner, I can have 2 or 3 because I’ve been training how to drive intoxicated’? So these are the things that I have to worry about when stuff like this […] [...]

from everyone i've spoken to, drunk driving is not only annoying, but can be very nauseating in the motion-sickness sense.

most of my acquaintances said they tried it once and won't again because of those ill effects.

So... there's a feature in the game that makes it clear how much driving ability is affected by drinking... and the suggested response to this educational tidbit is to ban/restrict the game?

Idiots.

Yes, because video game driving is just like real driving.... *pounds head against wall*

I can train for DUI on a videogame? How wonderful is technology!/sarcasm

Bear in mind, this guy probably has never seen the game and is just going on what his opinion is of 'a game that lets you drink and drive'.

Then again, he may just be a close-minded fool. Who knows for sure?

How many people are going to go ‘hey if I can master this, I can go out and instead of having a glass of wine or a beer with dinner, I can have 2 or 3 because I’ve been training how to drive intoxicated’?

Ummm.... I'm thinking no one!

With this game, you can train yourself to play a racing game while drunk!

Again, they're looking at this wrong. How come they can't view this as a deterrent instead? Everything I've read about the drunk driving aspect of this game suggests to me that it would people even less inclined to drive drunk than more. IMO, this has probably been the best anti-DUI PSA ever made!

Then again, these criticisms are as always coming from people who don't play video games and don't understand how they work. It's foreign technology to them and they fear it.

get a clue, old people

After playing Super Mario Galaxy, I think "hey, if I can master this, I can can go out and instead of being able to jump 8-10 inches high, I'll be able to jump 12 feet high. Hey, there's a striped mushroom! Bumblebee mode is go!"

''So ho many people are going to say hey if I can master this, I can go out and instead of having a glass of wine or a beer with dinner, I can have 2 or 3 because I’ve been training how to drive intoxicated’?''


um none

because gamers are the ones who know that video games cant train you to do jack shit.

I can also drive a car off a 10 storey building in gta, do a 360 flip bounce a coupe of ties, n then drive away.

Am i going to try that in real life.... gee.. what do you think

Considering more than a few police anti-drunk driving programs (and I've covered a few as a photojournalist) involve simulating drunk driving to high school students in some way--like, the drunk goggles, for instance. (I think there may be actual driving simulators as well.)

Arent they guilty of the same thing? And in the schools, no less!

Using the same twisted logic of the the police quote in this piece--if some high school kid finds that he can function in spite of wearing the drunk goggles, isnt that encoraging him to develop these 'skills' for real?

If he was actually worried about that kind of thing then someone should point out to him that it's actually WAY better practice to play Gran Turismo while drinking. As someone who spends a LOT of time drunk, I can safely say that the simulated drunkenness in GTAIV isn't even close to realistic.

It's almost like the police got together to think out this whole Anti-GTA campaign..

"You know how people $%*#ing hate us already?"
"Yeh, Sarge"
"Well.. we need more bad press. We need to give it 110%"

Someone in our community should put together a group of people who's sole purpose is to go around and educate people on what games, like GTA4, are really all about. Just to show people there is really nothing to fear and perhaps inspire people to create art/media/what-have-you, they otherwise would not have been inspired to create.

There is way too much misinformation being spread by those who don't understand and don't really seem to want to understand.

I think Yoda said it best:

"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."


J.T. is a "textbook" example of this.

-He fears something he knows little/nothing about.
-His lack of understanding has caused him to lash out at us and games.
-His actions have goaded us to do things that would normally be out of character for us (well, at least the vast majority of us) and has come to hate us and the games he does not understand.
-And as a result of all of this, it has caused him a fair (if not huge) amount of suffering, all of which is his own doing.
-From our perspective, it would seem that he has already gone "dark side" or is very close to doing so.

It all could have been avoided if he had the will to just do a little research. Of coarse there are many other factors at play: his obvious obsession with money, attention seeking, possible problems/trauma suffered during his upbringing, etc.

As being someone who picked himself up out of a bad downward spiral, it makes me sad to see other people who choose to live in fear, or are incapable of doing otherwise.

I have this overpowering instinct to help him, and others like him, aquire a life where they do not live in fear and achieve a state of inner-peace, but the catch is they have to want it. It appears most of them do not.

I am saddened . . .

Trauma Center allows training as a surgeon... I wonder if this guy would get operated by someone who has mastered the game?

I think I'll go play some NHL 08 and become a professional hockey player. I could use a $10 million contract. If that doesn't work I'll just sue the media for telling me video games are excellent training tools. I'd be nice to win a multimillion dollar lawsuit.

I wonder if I could get Thompson to represent me. He's all about using games for training...

I found walking more fun, just to try and keep Niko balanced.

Anybody stupid enough to think they're "trained" to drive drunk on GTA should probably not have a license to begin with.

I've played Burnout Paradise, i guess that means I'm trained to drive 100+ miles per hour, run people into walls, and take my car off some sweet jumps. Yay!

"How many people are going to go ‘hey if I can master this, I can go out and instead of having a glass of wine or a beer with dinner, I can have 2 or 3 because I’ve been training how to drive intoxicated’? So these are the things that I have to worry about when stuff like this hits the market."

It seems that this guy can't tell the difference between a video game and real life. You can't train to do things in this game. Anyone who thinks you can learn to drive, shoot, have sex, be drunk,etc, is the one out of touch with reality.

- Warren Lewis

"How many people are going to go ‘hey if I can master this, I can go out and instead of having a glass of wine or a beer with dinner, I can have 2 or 3 because I’ve been training how to drive intoxicated’?"

Um...none?


OK, shooting rampages are one thing, but are they SERIOUSLY going to try to pin drunk-driving on GTA!? What kind of crap is that? Its like no one is acknowledging the fact that people got behind the wheel intoxicated pre-GTA release...

really? wow . . .

Will law enforcement ever acknowledge that gamers can tell the difference between real life and a game? If what those bozos said is true, I should be performing limit breaks on everyone

This is utterly retarded. There is no way to simulate drunk driving realistically apart from inebriating the brain by introducing depressants that'll slow the reaction time of a normal human being by split seconds to full seconds. At most, the drunk driving within the game just makes it blurry and difficult to turn I bet.
In real life, drunk driving has reactions delayed and this causes devastating results because of how much ground one can cover in a vehicle before reacting to a stimuli. This is what results in accidents. Lt Scott is an idiot, especially since people can simply enjoy a silly practice in a virtual reality game, where no actual victims will result in it, as opposed to them wanting to try it in actuality.

"I’ve been training how to drive intoxicated?"

I really wish people would do some research before saying such stupid things. Buy the game, see how hard it is to drive drunk, see how fast you get pulled over, and then talk about it "trains" you to drive drunk...

Except that they'll probably crash dozens of time before mastering GTA drunk driving (if it's even possible) and won't be stupid enough to try it in real life. Honestly, we're gamers, not idiots. We know that drunk driving in a game isn't real, and we know that it's stupid in real life.

EVERY cop I have (unfortunately) been friends with (3 of 'em) would drive drunk in their free time- because they believed themselves to be above the law. These guys told me that many of their peers did the same. Perhaps police leadership should be looking into that stuff instead of fretting over games.


Oh, and since when did the driving in GTA become a simulator?

I have got to stop reading these posts. Stupid makes my head hurt soo bad!

Wow, apparently, you can "train" do anything if you play games...

So if I happen to play a female character in a game, does that mean I'm "training" for a sex change? (That /is/ a rhetorical question, just so you know...)

"How many people are going to go ‘hey if I can master this, I can go out and instead of having a glass of wine or a beer with dinner, I can have 2 or 3 because I’ve been training how to drive intoxicated’? So these are the things that I have to worry about when stuff like this hits the market."

The thing you need to know is that... who is actually THAT impressionable from a video game, regardless of whether they're between the ages of 16-21 or 21-30?

In the spirit of MADD's mad take, I want 'The 40-year-old Virgin' movie to be re-classified as 'NC-17', for its amusing depiction of operating a vehicle while intoxicated.

Are these the same people who played Ace Combat and then thought themselves qualified to pilot an F-16?

. . .

Am I the only one who remembers the Boomshine mission in Vice City back in 2002? This is ridiculous.

....sigh..... Another town I spent a good 7 years in. And it's ignorance is shining through. See i go the other way, I get drunk in real life to hone my drunk driving skills in the game.

Well, you guys do remember back when GTA III launched, when all those teenagers tried to ramp their cars off bridges 50 feet high, thinking they'd land unharmed.

Oh, wait a minute.... that didn't happen. Maybe becausemost gamers know the difference between a game and the real world.

You know, I really love Savannah. I love it. I went to college there and plan on some day spending the rest of my life on Hilton Head Island off the coast.

..But damn I hate ignorant people.
 
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