The United Arab Emirates has banned Grand Theft Auto IV, according to a report in The National.Monte: trolls are just at their absolute worst when it comes to women and feminist. You could bet good money that if the developer were male the trolls would be silent and the conversation would actually focus on the journalism.10/18/2014 - 9:18pm
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Monte: Papa: Not the first time we've had a journalism scandals before, but the harassment never got close to this level; the difference with this scandal is that feminists are involved. Without the feminist angle, their would be A LOT less harrassment10/18/2014 - 9:15pm
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Papa Midnight: Monte: That's honestly rather short-sighted. As has been proven with other persons who have been targeted, if it wasn't Quinn, it would be someone else.10/18/2014 - 6:26pm
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Avalongod: I think that's part of what gives an esoteric news story like this real life...it taps into a larger narrative about misogyny in society outside of games.10/18/2014 - 3:29pm
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Avalongod: @Monte, well the trolls made death threats that came to police (and media attention). I think this is tapping into a larger issue outside of games about how women are treated in society (like all the "real rape" stuff during the last election)10/18/2014 - 3:28pm
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Wonderkarp: Zippy : Havent tried the PS4 controller. might later.10/18/2014 - 2:37pm
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Monte: Seirously, If Quinn was not involved and GG was instead about something like the Mordor Marketing contracts, the trolling would have never grown so vile and disgusting. There have been plenty of movements in the past that never sufferred from behavior..10/18/2014 - 1:57pm
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Monte: We have seen scandel's before but the trolling has never been as vile as what we see with GG. Trolls usually have such a tiny voice you can barely notice them, but its like moths to a flame whenever femistist are involved.10/18/2014 - 1:53pm
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ZippyDSMlee: Wonderkarp: You might be able to if you had a PS4 controller.10/18/2014 - 1:00pm
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MaskedPixelante: http://store.steampowered.com/app/327940/ Night Dive starts charging for freeware.10/18/2014 - 12:21pm
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Matthew Wilson: the sad thing is there are trolls on both sides of this. people need to stop acting like their side is so pure.10/18/2014 - 12:19pm
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MechaTama31: So, only speak out on a scandal that hasn't attracted trolls? I wouldn't hold my breath...10/18/2014 - 10:49am
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Monte: I feel like GG just needs to die. The movement is FAR to tainted by hatred and BS for it to be useful for any conversation. Let GG die, and then rally behind the NEXT gaming journalism scandal, and start the conversation fresh.10/18/2014 - 10:33am
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quiknkold: and we dont have a Dovakin to call a cease fire10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
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quiknkold: The whole thing is Futile. Both sides are so buried deep in their trenchs that there isnt a conversation. Its just Finger Pointing, Name Calling, Doxxing, Threats. there needs to be a serious conversation, and GG isnt it.10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
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quiknkold: I thought it was a good article. Jeff is right. I feel like GamerGate did destroy its message. I am for Ethics in game journalism, but man. so much hate. and its on both sides. I've seen some awful stuff spewed on twitter. Its a big reason why I exited..10/17/2014 - 7:34pm
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Matthew Wilson: while he focused on gg, he did call out both sides crap.10/17/2014 - 7:18pm
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Papa Midnight: That was a damn good read offered by Jeff Gertsmann.10/17/2014 - 7:17pm
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Matthew Wilson: http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/letter-from-the-editor-10-17-2014/1100-5049/ deferentially a nice write up.10/17/2014 - 6:44pm
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james_fudge: I think Evan killed it. He's a great guy and super smart.10/17/2014 - 6:38pm
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Comments
i live in the middle east and youre assumption is utterly wrong.
but i do agree about the retard issue here.
its fine for them to sell slasher movies but not 4 games.
sly? yes pathatic? very 4 a reason? a shamless one like the one that belong to a fantic whos name start with j.;)
May 5th, 2008 at 12:02 am
Bastards dont deserve to play our games.
oh great! now were bastard?
man youre quite deep in thought are you?
Ignore what he has to say. Those of us who don't jump to conclusions sincerely appreciate your input on the subject. Especially considering a lot of us have never actually been in the UAE.
Thanks for taking the time out of your day to address the issue.
'Bastards dont deserve to play our games.'
'Who gives a damn about those people? They encourage violence on women and on the west. Screw them.'
'It’s the UAE. Who gives a shit?'
Yeah, so what, you guys don't have the slightest fucking clue about the UAE obviously. Granted, I'm not a national of the country, but honestly, we're more civilized than you are. Easily. Sure, they're a little eccentric when it comes to some things (like video games in this instance) but we've all come to terms with that. It's not like we don't have them, and if the UAE police ever saw me walking down the street with a copy of GTAIV they wouldn't go out of their way to arrest me. It's just what they do to enforce their religious beliefs and whatnot. Again, thanks for the hate an all; I'm glad you fuckers are so happy about yourselves - It's not like we can't even buy it here anyway. Go into any videogame store and they'll sell it to you, they just won't show it on the racks or anything.
Rant over, so please be more considerate when offending other people - especially as a whole, we're all individuals
And wow, I'm surprised by the ignorance of many people here... Read up on UAE, or take out a map and learn the difference between Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE. They might be in the same region, but so is USA and Cuba... And i read that Cuba just legalized computers... That must mean they're still illegal in the US?
Get educated before posting non-sense comments - keep in mind the News or media as a whole is not a good source. If that were the case then I would have to believe that the US would 'have' be the unsafest place on earth considering all the murders and psycho's running about - but clearly in reality it's not as bad as the news/media portrays it.
Also keep in mind that every country has it's own traditions/culture, etc, one may disagree with certain aspects - but critisizing and calling names just shows the lack of respect and understanding. Now no matter how hypocritical or illogical a country's political agenda may be - and yes every country has - including the so-called 'free' countries. The authorities here in the UAE have their reasons for banning the game - although currently still unclear to me why have they have done so - and yes to me it is illogical.
They also banned GTA III here, needless to say that both GTA III/IV are still widely available and on display in Abu Dhabi, the capital.
If there are no set restrictions on the timing of action movies here in the UAE as compared to other countries, please don't jump to a conclusion and state that they 'love violence' here.
You're a journalist - do your job! - correctly!
lol
Nothing of the ban mentioned in any of the other major newspapers. As previously commented, the game is still widely available.
We're living a great life, yes we have to respect some censorship for the normal, polite and organised Muslim population, who don't believe in terrorism or acts of extremism. Muslim religion teaches peace and friendship.
As for most of the comments above which I am sure are from Citizens of the US! believe me, we live in a far more pleasant world than you do right now. We have freedom to earn tax free, we get to socialise with cultures and people from all over the world with really interesting varied backgrounds and oppinions, we don't have a Warmonger for a President, and we're part of a country which is building up to something great. You guys are all hanging in there thinking you've got the best lives, well believe me you don't! I've spent many months in the U.S and I love the place! But it isn't the only place on earth. Get those maps out, figure out where the UAE is, and then do some research into all the great things going on here. It'll make you feel quite depressed with your normal lives and rising unemployment alongside your economic slump! But heh, I guess more unemployment means more time to play GTA IV!! So you'll all be happy anyway.
Why not try understanding the world instead of just talking trash about things you are ignorant to?
and btw GTAIV is the best game i have ever played.God of war too
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whAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE CANT U RESPECT OTHER COUNTRIES I WENT TO UAE IT WAS A LOVELY LIFE THERE & IM FROM THE USA .. THEY BANNED THE GAME BECAUSE THY ARE MOSTLY MUSLIMS & THE GAME IS FULL WITH SEXUAL ABUSES & VOILENCE & KILLING EACH OTHERS & GOD OF WAR IS A STUPID GAME .... U FIGHT GOD IN THE GAME WAT THE HELL !! IM NOT A JEW OR SOMETHING BUT I KNOW THAT THE GAME IS SOO STUPID PPL GET A LIFE HERE & RESPECT PPL'S COUNTRY .... THE ARAB PPL WERE SO NICE EVERY TIME THEY WALK BY YOU THEY SAY HELLO OR ALSALAM ALIKOM & DO U KNOW WAT THAT MEAN IT MEANS WE WISH PEACE WITH YOU .... ARGH ..!!! WAT IF PPL SAY THAT TO OUR COUNTRY (USA) WOULD U PPL LOVE IT WAT IF THEY BANNED THE GAME FOR SOME REASON HUH HUH ??!! & IN THE UAE ALL PPL RESPECT EVERY 1 ...RIGHT DOWN ON GOOGLE UAE,DUBAI ULL SEE LOVE & PEACE & KIDS RUNNING AROUND SOO HAPPILY !! GOOD BYE
IM 12 AND I THINK I HAVEA LIFE & U ADULTS DONT !
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Arabs I swear when it comes to violence and wrong things they shound it even utter a word about it cause in ancient times they were pretty disturbing even today they do some stupid shit
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Fuck canada. Sorry couldnt resist.
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hello I am american working in Duabi , alot of your assumptions about the country are totally off the wall dont beleive everything the media says about the u.a.e. and the middle east i've been working in the middle east for the apst 5years and i would have to say beside Iraq and some other places the middle east is pretty chill. especialy in U.A.E AND KUWAIT I can only speak for those country which i been. the crime rate is way low, drugs are a minor issue here in this part of the orld almost all the expats are employed and making good money here. but there are some liberates and freedoms that haven reach here, one would be the freedom of speech, but others such as freedom of religion are excised here. Dubai i would say is the future for the middle east so you would see changes in dubai before any other country in the middle east,. So before getting all ignorant American do some research and know what you are talking about before you make a ignornant comment about something you make yourself look like a ass.
Damn, i have been to
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read my comment at the end it is written on august 9 2008 it will help