Rhode Island Attorney General Issues GTA IV Warning

May 4, 2008 -
The attorney general of Rhode Island has warned parents about the mature content in Grand Theft Auto IV, according to Legal Newswire.

Of the best-selling, highly controversial game, A.G. Patrick Lynch (left), a Democrat, said:
As video games become more realistic and in many cases, more violent, parents must become more vigilant before buying them or letting their children use them.

Also, retailers and salespeople have a responsibility to better inform parents how violent these games actually are. Grand Theft Auto IV is obviously rated 'M' for a reason, and parents need to keep a game like this away from their kids.

In August, 2007, GamePolitics reported that Lynch had joined with the ESRB in an effort to educate parents about the video game industry's content rating system.

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@Ian Cooper

The ultra sheltered kids could have a meltdown as they have no idea how to handle something.

Hes cool at least he doesnt want to ban it.

Here's an interesting question: Which would be more disturbing to a little kid: The original Texas Chainsaw Massacre or the movie 300? Ask yourself if the context of all the violence is a factor. Now when I was a kid, I didn't give a shit if Superman beat the ever-livin' shit outta Lex Luthor, but seeing like, Lex Luthor snuff out innocent people, that's always rung as fucked up. If a movie or something ever got to brutal for me, I'd leave the fucking room. It was that simple.

"Grand Theft Auto IV is obviously rated ‘M’ for a reason, and parents need to keep a game like this away from their kids."

Yeah, except you have the parents who don't care about their kids. Look at those two deadbeats who left an infant in their car while they watched the Kentucky Derby at some betting place in NYC. And of course the ones who can't smack the hell out of their sexually out of control teen daughters due to child services getting involved and claiming abuse.

Good to see a public official simply saying, "Don't buy this for your kids. It's not for them." and leave it at that. I'm sure there's temptation to add their own moral opinion of the game and decry it, but that's not what this is about, nor should it be. It's a game made for adults. There's a rating on it that says so. Full stop.

It probably isn't Jack. But if it is, I'd really like to know how he thinks this game is being marketed to kids? The ads don't show anything that would make it appealing to kids a la Joe Camel. Gaming magazines are read by a broad spectrum of ages; adults of which I'm sure comprise a good chunk. As for his assertion of it being adverstise on the likes of WWE, well it's been pointed out before how much of a contradiction that is. I'd like him to prove how Zelnick is trafficking porn. Oh, and to please stop breathing, too.

I'd also like someone to explain to me how his idea of having companies like Take Two refuse to let retailers sell their games doesn't make any sense either from a business or economic stadpoint. I mean, I know most businesses in a capitalist-based economy don't work that way, but could someone please give me specifics? The reason I ask is I will probably be discussing this with my family in the near future over dinner and I want to be able to know what I'm talking about.

Ian, my point was, anything in excess is unhealthy in some way. I was being general in what i was saying. If you feel your young daughter can handle that, that's fine, i'm just saying.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!

We ARE making progress, but damn! By now we should not even be having these "warnings" from politicians. Think of all the things this guy could have done while he was doing this. On the grand scale, videogames are as irrelevant as irrelevant gets in politics. Or at least they should be.

Patrick C. Lynch, age 43. that's what wikipedia says.

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I like what he's doing. It's respectable and not bull crap.

Yay, a politician is looking at games as something other than a murder sim, small step for man, gigantic leap for politics. On a sidenote, is that really Jack Thompson or is someone masquerading as him to increase his infamy stats?

I bow to this guy.

Simple, to the point and effective. Thank you, sir, have a nice day. Now lets have some others follow suit... Though I won't point fingers. They know who they are.

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Papa Midnight

@Christophe Janson

He did label himself an attorney and didn't have any unwarranted slashes in his writing, so I think it's a fake.

Yay Rhode Island! We're all a little nuts here, but in a good way.

But you know, I can tell you from first hand experience you can tell parents its extreme adult content, even go as far as to describe to them in detail the content, but for some of them no amount of talk will convince them.

Or it will convince them, and then their kid says "but I own other M rated games!" and they decide to buy it anyway. What exactly can retailers do at that point?

"Also, retailers and salespeople have a responsibility to better inform parents how violent these games actually are."

Every time I hear people at my local Gamestop try and tell ignorant parents what GTA IV contains all I hear from the parents are "Shut the fuck up and ring me up. I don't need to be told how to parent." or some variation of the sort. The ESRB has a website that parents can go too and look up information on a game their kids want, and the information is also printed on the back of the game's box.

You cannot educate parents who do not care in the first place, yet then again these are the some parent who blame everything under the sun other than their crappy parenting when their child does something wrong.

Y'know, if you're so damn concerned about videogames, it's not at all hard to familiarize yourself with the rating system. The damn thing's been around for long enough that there's no excuse for people to need "educating".

You know, the ESRB has been around since 1995 of so, so that is almost 13 or 15 years for parents to get themselves informed.

Also M 17+ means that while it says not suitable for those under 17, that is only a recomendation and opinion of the ratings system that is the ESRB.


In the end, it should be the parent who decides when it comes to an M17+ game if their teenager is 13 or 15 or in their teens.

But it MAY not be suitable for those under 17. NOT something that says it isn't allowed for those under 17.

First we as gamers and game industry must get rid of that fear of Videogames making people turn into killers until we can see parents starting to understand to rating system, because it is clear that for years of school shootings and people who never played videogames yelling about Videogames making people turn into killers that is the real problem and is one of those reasons why some parents are hostile to those trying to inform them because in their mind, a retailer trying to inform them about the violence is no different than a politician shouting anti-gaming slogens.

well that is just my own opinion of what might be the problem.

It is not up to any politician or government to set standards for what kids can see or do, that is the role of parents.

It has been proven countless times in court rulings that the courts believe parents not government or industry should set the standards over what comes into the home, and that the research purporting to prove negative effects on children are not credible.

Games are just like movies and books. Video games have pictures, graphic design, concept art, sounds, music, stories, and narrative and are entitled to a similar protection. There is no evidence to support the claim that video games are more harmful than TV because the player controls the action.

Until there is evidence I recommend all these politicians who are obviously only after their 5 mins of fame concentrate on the real issues affecting their constituants. Not non-issues like this.

Reason and understanding in a politician??


BLASPHEMY~!!!!!

I agree with Ian to an extent, I don't believe that that children need to be "kept away" from this game. Chances are if your kid is old enough to know about it(And I don't know of many very young kids who are aware of it unless they go on internet game sites) then they probably can handle it...as long as an adult is there to put it into proper perspective. Once a kid reaches middle school, I think that's when they should be allowed to play things like this as long as mom or dad is there to talk to them about it afterwards. If you put it into proper perspective than it won't affect your kid but if you tell them that they aren't allowed to have it, chances are they will want to play it more and will play it without an adult to put it into proper perspective. Once the kid reaches high school....I think there are probably worse things to worry about then what games they are playing.

I like this guy. He didn't tell parents they couldn't buy the game for their kids, he merely warned them to be aware of what they were buying. Alos, while most salesclerks will tell a parent about the contents of a game, there are a few out there that would lie in order to make another sale.

I see nothing wrong with this public statement. Kudos.

Thank you guy. Remind the parents to be vigilant, don't run around like a jackass screaming "BAN IT! BAN IT!"

It's because that ignorant parents think "Video games = Children" and they don't understand the full extent of the video game culture. They want violent games to be banned so that they could just grab any game off the shelf and buy it so they can get the hell out of the store.

@Chopperlink

Actually most everybody knows not all games are for kids. But they want them to be. There are a lot of people who want everything made kid friendly so they don't have to put any effort into parenting. You get what you put in, dickbags.

@ Grizzam

Yes I agree thier are people like that like the Parents Television Council. Moralistic prudes like that want everything to be family friendly even if it's obviously intended for mature audiences. Here's a good example, they went after shows like Nip/Tuck and The Shield which are obviously intended for adults and wouldn't really appeal to kids. Hell I started watching "The Shield" after I heard them bitching about how bad it was.

@MasterAssassin

Isn't that the best part? That most kids aren't even interested in these shows until these "family" groups start mouthing off? HAHAHAHA! It's so damn ironic!

well, he seems low on hysteria, but high on the obvious, but at least hes not bashing the game

the game is graite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many lawyers do you need to make sense?

One apparently.

Thanks guy! 'Preciate it.

I appreciate what this guy is doing.

Me as a gamer-parent fully appreciate the fact that someone out there really appreciates games and is concerned about our children at the same time.

Now lets hope that non-gamer parents will cooperate with the fact that this is a MATURE CONTENT game and shouldn't be taken for granted. Its tonnes of fun, but children might misjudge it - or worse get influenced.

Thanks, because parents are idiots and they have no idea what they want for their children and they need guys like this to tell them what to do. Every body worship Mr. Rhode island attorney!

Yay! Someone from the law who's smart! And he's from my state!!!! Whoooo!

Even if he is saying the true (I´m glad for that), why is an attorney talking about GTA4?

I think it is only a political stunt, even he is not bashing anything.

@ Cheater87

Because parents are dumber than politicians.
 
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