British Commission Hears Grieving Mom's Criticism of Violent Games

May 15, 2008 -

A British government commission studying violence in urban areas heard a grieving mother blame violent video games and television programs for leading young people into ciminal behavior.

The panel is headed by Cherie Blair, wife of former Prime Minister Tony Blair. As reported by the Birmingham Post. Ann Oakes-Odger (left), whose son was stabbed to death during a robbery, said:

When advertising first became a medium on TV...subliminal shots... were banned... because it was considered to be interrupting the natural psyche of one's thinking. I believe video games and violent computer games have the same effect... We have a responsibility as adults to protect our children and the information that is input into them...We can't allow them to live in a twilight world of reality and non-reality...


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No it isn't

Adults role in the world is not to protect children, but to teach them toprotect themselves and think for themselves.


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Re: No it isn't

SPOT. ON.

-GRIZZAM PRIME(c)is property of the U.S. Marine Corp. Wetworks Dept., and also The Incredible Hulk-GRIZZAM PRIME is not to be associated with GRIZZAM 512 or any other GRIZZAM entity under penalty of law, so sayith ZARATHOS.

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Something that is kinda like iron...

Subliminal is a fairly accurate comparison I think - because subminal advertising has no factual evidence supporting that it does anything (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_message) and violent video games and media having a negative effect on peoples levels of aggression also has no factual evidence supporting them :)

So basically everything she says is based on fantasy.  It seems that maybe she is the one living in "a twilight world of reality and non-reality"

-- mostly harmless

mostly harmless

Re: Something that is kinda like iron...

Yeah, I see those Sprite commercials all the time and I still hate Sprite.

 

-GRIZZAM PRIME(c)is property of the U.S. Marine Corp. Wetworks Dept., and also The Incredible Hulk-GRIZZAM PRIME is not to be associated with GRIZZAM 512 or any other GRIZZAM entity under penalty of law, so sayith ZARATHOS.

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Geez, talk about a

Geez, talk about a manipulative image! Then again it could be a good caption contest.

"I can haz sympathies?"

"Bad hair, look how it makes your mum sad!"

 

The subliminal (or subliminablle to translate into Bush v2.0) thing is a poor anaolgy because unless my memory is failing me, the reason it was regulated was because a single frame of contrary data had a direct & measurable physiological effect & could cause seizures.

If there's one thing I can't

If there's one thing I can't stand, it's using a medical reason to further a political agenda, and this is (from the mother's side) a political agenda.

Re: If there's one thing I can't

I have to agree with you on that and I'd go so far as to say people who use deceased loved ones to get their 15 minutes of fame make me feel physically ill.

----Apparently our plan to just sit around and wait for all the stupid people to die isn't going so well

Although I have no faith

Although I have no faith that what she's saying has any basis in reality, it does bring up an interesting side thought: wtf is 'subliminal' advertising banned? It sounds like one of those buzzword hysterias that never got taken off the book once they realized inserting the word 'smoke' into 1 frame of lassie won't do jack.

Re: Although I have no faith

Good advertising (or bad dependent on your opinion) works on base desires and wants, basically advertising to the lizard brain. The goal is to put the message into your subconsious that you want the product because it's associated with things you find appealing. Mind you as you get older this gets harder and harder to do because people find more and more varied things that they find pleasant.

Actual sublimanal messages in advertising are pretty much non-existant. Even the stuff that gets trotted out like the smaoking ads to kids, were not sublimanal. Fred Flinstone actually freaking smoked and said how smooth lucky strikes were during the show. You can't get much blunter than that.

The legal stuff at the end of commercials wouldn't technically be sublimanal because they don't actually want that to go into your brain. Normally if your talking sublimanal messages the goal is to get the message across to you with your knowledge. If the car companies can help it they don't want you to know any of the legal stuff.

SMOKE

So wait did they really do that in Lassie? Or was that just a FG reference? :P

And I would feel worse about her situation if she didn't pin it on something that prolly had little if anything to do with it anyway...


Isn't any form of

Isn't any form of advertising these days have some form of subliminal advertising? I mean you look at a car advertisement and it's got all the legal mumbo-jumbo at the end for a good .5 seconds on a TV that doesn't have a signal with a high enough resolution to be readable.


---- There is a limit for both politicians against video games, and video games against politicians.

We can't allow them to live

We can't allow them to live in a twilight world of reality and non-reality...

Who wants to play Risk? Battleship, anyone? It's another one of those "BooHoo, my kid was killed and video games are to blame." stories. Don't get me wrong, the death is a very sad thing in the first place, especially during a robbery. However, I still have to wonder how exactly this will effect the study. Hell, if it is a study, then they shouldn't actually be hearing this woman. They should be studying the numbers and see if it supports their hypothesesis.

Scientific Method, people!

---- There is a limit for both politicians against video games, and video games against politicians.

haha I like how the

haha I like how the auto-title of your post looks like a threat

Lulz

Yeah, it does look like he's saying something different.
 
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