Researcher: Violent Video Games Do Not Lead to Criminal Behavior
Researcher: Violent Video Games Do Not Lead to Criminal Behavior
May 15, 2008
A researcher at England's University of Essex says that there is little evidence to suggest that video games are harmful. Patrick Kierkegaard, writing in the current International Journal of Liability and Scientific Enquiry, adds that, in his view, games do not lead to aggression.
He also suggests that previous studies linking games and aggression are biased.
As reported by Science Daily:
Kierkegaard explains... there is no obvious link between real-world violence statistics and the advent of video games. If anything, the effect seems to be the exact opposite and one might argue that video game usage has reduced real violence.
As others have done, Kierkegaard cites declines in US juvenile crime at the same time that video game sales are increasing:
Violent crime, particularly among the young, has decreased dramatically since the early 1990s. With millions of sales of violent games, the world should be seeing an epidemic of violence. Instead, violence has declined.
Kierkegaard said that the inherent bias found in many studies indicates a need for more details research on video games and their effects on youthful players.
Comments
Violent crime, particularly among the young, has decreased dramatically since the early 1990s. With millions of sales of violent games, the world should be seeing an epidemic of violence. Instead, violence has declined.
More ammunition for use. Of course this won't shut certain people up...
Jack has his ears plugged with his fingers and is singing "Yankee Doodle" as loud as he can at this time.
Therefore he will be completely oblivious to this research in the future. That is all.
Can I feel smug and be arrogant for awhile now? Maybe I should even take credit for this study. Hmmmm....
Nah, I'll behave.
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Obviously games do not manufacture killers. People with unstable mental states lose contact with reality. They begin to have irrational behavior and unorganized thought processes. Because these people don't experience reality in the same way as other people they begin to withdrawal from social norms and often seek out a way to enact their fantasies or find a place where their irrational thoughts become rational. So it would not be hard to believe a crazy person with the ability to kill to enact killing people in a game or even watch a movie with lots of killing.
However these people experience the game differently. Instead of realizing the game is fiction and doesn't exist due to their experiencing reality in a distorted way, may find the game realistic and enjoy their actions in a way a normal person will not.
Bottom Line: Games do not cause people to kill other people. People who kill other people look for media in which their psychosis is norm.
Forgot to say: One of the reasons games is often blamed in situations where a person snapes and kills people is because they are normal. They dont have the ability to comprehend the actions of the killer. This is because the killer was mentally disturbed where as normal people are not. So because they can't comprehend why somebody would do these things they look for a way to explain it.
However, unfortunatly it seems that they don't use much rational themselves while picking their scapegoat. For now it works, the older generations dont understand video games and are therefore easy to convince. But what are people going to blame when the video game generation takes control of the country?
Sadly, as good as this report is, it'll fall onto deaf ears to the ones that really need to read this. For us this report is stating what we already knew. But if a debate ever came up with JT or Leland this would make great matierial as it flies in their face of what they are constantly attacking.
@Mirrikat45
Kinda makes you wonder if(or what) our generation will scapegoat, the whole video games are bad thing will get blown over when our generation fully takes control, but what pop culture media form will we put on the spot. Almost every generation has done it to something, or will the combination of realization and the internet(or mass communication in general) be enough for us to look at the facts before pointing fingers.
Nice try asshole. The FBI's stats on crime still prove youth crime is down. Brain scans aren't crime stats.
Oh, and don't forget that the Flat Earth Society was founded on Christian beliefs. Those are YOUR people.
You really suck at this, Thompson.
First of all, there are no video game violence brain scan studies out of Harvard. I've been asking you for years to cite one and you've consistently failed to do so. Maybe I've overlooked it but until you can back up your claim, I will firmly believe you are wrong or have the wrong school.
Indiana State: This study used an MRI to look at the difference between the brains of normal kids and kids with disruptive behavioral disorders when playing violent games. It concluded that kids with DBD have less activity going on in the frontal lobe (decision-making and behavioral control) when playing violent games. The games used? A racing game and a James Bond game.
A more recent study from the same school had about 44 kids play Need for Speed: Underground and Medal of Honor: Frontline for 30 minutes. It concluded that the ones who played MoH had more brain activity in the emotional arousal area.
Michigan: A look at the brains of 13 males who played an unspecified violent game showed a "brain activity pattern that may be characteristic for aggressive thoughts."
Not a damn one of these studies proves anything Thompson claims they do.
Oh and while the APA did release a resolution in '05 that recognized the possibility that violent video game play may increase aggressive behavior (and made suggestions like teach kids media literacy and do more research) it absolutely did not find what Thompson often claims they did.
All you have to do is read the info Thompson cites to see he's full of it.
Andrew Eisen
Darling Eisen: The brain scan studies out of Harvard pertaining to violent entertainment, and the brain scan studies out of Indiana University and Michigan State deal with video games. John Murray is the key guy in the Harvard studies and one of our experts in the Alabama case. The Harvard studies apply to video games as well, Murray says, who is repeatedly published in peer-reviewed science journals. If you, you jackass, can\'t find any of this on the Internet, then you are even more inept than I thought you were. Do your own research, which, of course, you don\'t want to find. By the way, get a dose of honesty. Or get some help from the American Psychological Association, which found the causal link between these games and teen aggression in August 2005, or are you unable to find that report as well, Andy?
Jack Thompson
Thanks for the hint. I'll look up John Murray and his Harvard brain scan study later.
In the meantime, of course I can find the APA resolution. I can also read it. What's more is I can understand it and it does not say there is a causal link between teen agression and violent game play.
Buy hey, don't take my word for it.
Yale University's Dr. Dorothy Singer, who co-chaired the study committee, told GP via e-mail that claims of the APA finding a "direct causal link" between games and actual violence are "...wrong and misinterpreting the statement... nowhere do we make such a claim in the resolution, nor does APA... Our studies cited were correlational... there is a difference."
Dr. Elizabeth Carll (left), who chairs the organization's Interactive Media Committee added in an e-mail to GP yesterday, "There was no reference to direct causal link in the APA Resolution on Violence in Video Games and Interactive Media. I scrolled through my email and saw Dorothy Singer's response as well and we are in agreement."
Andrew Eisen
care to comment? Or do you have the minerals to do so?
John Murray is a Kansas State University professor, not Harvard.
His big brain scan study was done in collaboration with the Mind Science Foundation and at the University of Texas Sciences Center, not Harvard.
The study itself had 8 kids (ages 8 to 13) watch less than 10 minutes of either National Geographic or Rocky IV. The study concluded that violence is arousing and engaging to the brain. Said Murray:
“In the results of our initial, and very limited study, of children's brain activations while viewing entertainment video violence, suggest that the violence is arousing, engaging and is treated by the brain as a real event that is threatening and worthy of being stored for long-term memory in an area of the brain that makes 'recall' of the events almost instantaneous.
This is as 'scary' as it gets; even more than an "R" rated slasher film. Here, we see normal children storing away violent images in a manner that could be used to 'guide' future behavior. Naturally, this is only the beginning of the story and we need to conduct much more extensive research on neuroimaging and violence, but we have identified the reasons why parents and politicians, people of all political persuasions, should take action to reduce media violence.”
So, unless you’re referring to a different study or a different John Murray, you’re still citing studies that do precious little to support your position.
Andrew Eisen
Edit: Links removed. Spam filter doesn't like them.
Doesn't Jack ever tire of being wrong? On the simplest of points? Like with what univeristy John Murray is associated? If he can't get the plain and simple facts straight, then what hope has he on the more complex facts like the meaning of the results of Murray's neurological study? Hopeless.
Storing away violent images sounds like a good thing to me. It could be handy should a person ever be in a dangerous situation. Seriously, none of that sounds bad or "scary" as this researcher claims. That all depends on what a person does with his or her knowledge. Broad generalizations and a failure to cite a positive application.
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Hey, while Eisen explains why your wrong about the APA study, and while we are on the subject of APA studies and the concept of proving a link between media and violence you may want to take a look at this:
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2007/02/27/new-research-sees-correlation-bet...
Short version, instead of using video games they used the holy bible! and the results shown an "increase in aggression" for those who read violent passages as well as passages that say God condoned the violence...
"The Deseret News reports that the researchers believe their findings are consistent with other studies which show correlation between aggression and violent movies, music and video games."
And it seems that one of the researchers was Dr.Bushman, the same psychologist from the APA study you constantly misquote. Essentially, the study says that books, including the holy bible, can yield similar results as those that the APA study shows for video games...
Frankly, when it comes to media resulting in making people violent, i do not say EITHER study proves such a thing... These are correlation studies, not causation; very big difference... not to mention there is a very strong difference between aggressive thoughts and translating that into real world violence anyway. For instance, if a person gets mad/frustrated at something, or if they start getting highly competitive, i'm sure those would result in "aggressive thoughts" but NOT become violent because those are normal human emotions...
Though i guess if you back up the APA study so much and use that as "Proof" agianst video games, then i guess you except that books including the holy bible can also have a casual link to teenage aggression
Did you also see how they noted that parental involvement nagated most of that?
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Yeah, the APA study. The one I read through and performed multiple text comparison scans and found not a single claim of yours is supported by it. That study...
You are in serious need of your own advice, learn to tell the truth, and get yourself checked by a certified psychologist. Your sociopathic actions along with your pathalogical lieing does not help anyone, nor does it set a good example for the "kids" you supposedly are trying to protect from the evils in this world.
I'll be checking pubmed for publications by John Murray and reading them as I get the time to. Without having read anything of his, I'm still confident that nothing he's published actually supports your views. I've seen your type of tactics far too often with the fanatically religious, including the Creationist/ID and anti-vaccine groups. You simply quote-mine an article, and lift the parts you can twist into your own meaning when taken out of context, then claim the entire article supports your views even when the article in full context completely disproves your statements. I'm getting rather sick of seeing crap like you claiming anything and pointing to articles like this, which at best is morally wrong and contemptable. My suggestion, as it always has been, is either change your ways or get some SPF 10,000 for your afterlife as you're current actions have you on track to goto a place where warm doesn't even begin to describe it.
Isn't it interesting that Jacko makes these claims with no real proof to support it? For your viewing perusal:
http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/04/gaming-real-vio.html
And
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/viortrdtab.htm
The numbers do not lie...unless the Justice Department is conspiring with the video game industry, just like the DoD. >_>
Also, since this is turning into an 'OMG MY EXPERTZ DISAGREE' war, I feel I must post this. Enjoy, Jacko.
http://cad-comic.com/comics/20051012.jpgNo, no, if you're bringing up comics, *this* is Jack http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20050808.jpg
That is a BLATENT lie, and even if it were true, which its NOT youth crime has been on the decline for 20 years, funny enough the same time games have been on the rise, so even if it DID go up, (which it didnt) that still wouldnt mean anything. Hell I could say something fantastic like, that is proof that video games brought out the best in humanity the world has ever seen and the youth crime statistics from the past 20 years prove it, and now its just peaked so there is nowhere to go but back up.
But A: only you would say something so insane based on so little.
And B: its STLL more credible a connection than any pitifull not even as good AS anecdotal trash evidence you have ever supplied to your biased choir.
Here it is, ace. Read it and weep:
http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/070718/d070718b.htm
The crime rate among young persons aged 12 to 17 rose 3% in 2006, the first increase since 2003. The rise was driven by increases in mischief and disturbing the peace. The rate of young people accused of homicide was the highest since 1961, when data were first collected.
And the researcher\'s source is what, Hal Halpin of ECA?????
Jack Thompson
Good Job JT, except thats Canada's statistics and a year old at that.
Mr. Thomspon, perhaps you didn't notice the NEGATIVE SLOPE at the end of that graph? That means a decline.
Plus the fact this study is less recent than another person posted, let alone what this article gave.
Was there really a need for the caps lock in that other comment, Mr. Thompson? We're not six years old, Mr. Thompson, you know this.
Unfortunately...
"The property crime rate dropped 4% from 2005, as the rate of break-ins fell 5% to its lowest level in over 30 years. The rate of motor vehicle theft also declined, down 2%" (isn't a big part of GTA stealing cars?)
Given that the average gamer is 34 years old (I am 32), I should be more concerned about adult crimes... But they are down... hmmmm...
Also, good analysts, like me!, never use one data point to prove a trend. For example, mischief is DOWN 6% since 1996. Disturbing the peace is up overall, but then what is the definition? Noise complaints? Yeah, I am really worried about that!
Next, Criminal Code violations are down 16% since 1996. Hmmmm..
Last, "Since the introduction the Youth Criminal Justice Act (YCJA) in 2003, the proportion of youth formally charged by police has dropped from 56% in 2002, pre-YCJA, to 42% in 2006" Wow! So there are more laws to charge people with, but the rate is DECLINING.
Stats are actually really cool Mr. Thompson, but as my boss would say: "Giving metrics to stupid people produces stupid interpretations". I would love to see your ANOVA analysis of the crime information Statistics Canada has.
JohnnyD - Proud Canadian - Senior Metrics Analyst
Come on Thompson, you're not that stupid so stop acting like it.
These stats are for Canada, not the US. Even so, the 3% increase is an increase from an already low point. Just look at the graph in the article you linked to. See the downward slope from 1993 (about the time people started complaining about violent video games)? Yeah, overall youth crime has been on the decline. A slight uptick (again 3% up from the previous year's already low point) does nothing to prove your point. Especially when said uptick was caused by "increases in mischief and disturbing the peace" and not violent crime.
Also, I'm not really impressed by a high rate of kids accused of homicide.
Andrew Eisen
Edit: Spelling
Jeezus titty f#cking Christ, it's like you're trying to get us to pitty you...dumbass.
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HERE ARE THE FACTS, YOU LYING LOSERS! THIS \\\\\\\"RESEARCHER\\\\\\\" CAN\\\\\\\'T EVEN GET HIS CRIME STATS RIGHT! UNBELIEVABLE. SOMEBODY GET DENNIS MCCAULEY A DARVOCET:
WASHINGTON (AP) — Increasing violence among teenagers and other youths appears to have contributed to a nationwide crime spike, the Justice Department said Tuesday.
Gangs and gun violence are partly to blame for the rise in crime that is on pace to increase for the second straight year, says Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in a prepared speech.
In response, the Justice Department is pledging to spend nearly $50 million this year to combat gangs and guns, and will push Congress to enact new laws to let the federal government better investigate and prosecute violent crime.
FBI data from last fall show violent crimes, including murders and robberies, rose by 3.7% nationwide during the first six months of 2006. Those findings came on top of a 2.2% crime hike in 2005 — the first increase since 2001.
Ok this just proves that gangs are a problem, not video games. Ok crime is up, I'm seeing nothing pertaining to video games as the reason for blame here. Last I checked gangs are usually formed from a bad home life and constantly being out on the streets doing no good in the first place anyway, not cause they were sitting at home playing video games or "murder simulators" as you call them.
Headline even says that "serious violent crimes committed by juveniles has generally declined since 1993."
1993, by the way, is the same year Mortal Kombat first came out. I agree, it's still too high, but there's not even a correlation with video game sales, much less cauation.Wow, Mr. Thompson, you are on fire today. Anyways, the text you are showing us doesn´t even name any for of entertainment. No books. No music. No movies. No games. Nothing.
Just gangs and guns. You just proved to us videogames has nothing to do with real life crime.
Don´t cry...
Yes, if you compare today with yesterday then violent crime is indeed on the rise. However, if you were an intelligent human being, you'd look at it in the proper context and examine the crime rates over the last several years. If you did that, you'd see that the general trend is a decline and a quite steep decline at that. The upticks you are citing are upticks from an already low point.
I'm not saying an uptick in violent crime isn't a concern but it certainly does nothing to back your claims.
Andrew Eisen
You guys keep giving him leeway with the lie that youth crime even went up in the first place, many examples have been given so far to disprove his entire argument that youth crime is on the rise in the first place! I love that even if what he is saying WERE true, which it isnt, then we could still disprove it, but we shouldnt even be getting that far, we still havent gotten past the lie that youth crime is up at all.
So jack, I have a question, when you were going around to schools playing the debate game, how come you werent calling them losers and jackasses? Was it because they had auditoriums full of people including the parents you so frequently lie to? TV cameras? What was it?
Or was it because your entire "crusade" is a complete facade, and you are just a collosal hypocrite.
Jack,
Your 1st grader argument style must win you lots of points in court. Oh, wait! You lose every court case!
First off, your link to statistics are from CANADA, a place that is, at best, fictitious.
Here's a snippet from a link from the United States:
SOURCE: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cvict.htm#summary
(See how easy that is? I just destroyed your argument with 2 minutes of fact checking on an official government site.)
Jack,
Your 1st grader argument style must win you lots of points in court. Oh, wait! You lose every court case!
First off, your link to statistics are from CANADA, a place that is, at best, fictitious.
Here's a snippet from a link from the United States:
SOURCE: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cvict.htm#summary
(See how easy that is? I just destroyed your argument with 2 minutes of fact checking on an official government site.)
This is why we never let him post, he gets really abusive and really childish, very quickly. I'm more or less amazed why Dennis even let him post given his past track record with us. We try to have civilized debates with him but this is what it degenerates into.
In short, Jack Thompson is a troll.
your name goes into the name field, not the comment.
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
You know, in the 16 years I've been raising my boy, not once has he displayed any negative traits that could be blamed on video games.
However... every time he reads something about Jack Thompson online or sees him on the news, he becomes a bit foul-mouthed and extremely angry, generally going on a tirade about people who have no clue trying to force him to fit into an invalid stereotype.
In general, Mr. Thompson (and I am 100% sincere about this)- you have actually been the cause of more extreme behavior from my son than any video game ever has.
Of course, I just credit his sense (and warn him to be sure he's using appropriate language in the appropriate venues), but it gives one food for thought.
If that's the case, then video games could be indirectly causing your son's anger! Video games make Jack Thompson angry, which causes him to act like a whackjob. Thompson's whackjobbery elicits angry outbursts from video gamers! Clearly it's this middle man that is the crucial causal link! People play video games and are perfectly fine, but everyone in contact with Jack Thompson develops violent tendencies!
Ban Jack Thompson! For the Children!
HAHAHAHA! Dude, you're effing awesome! This shit is better than TV!
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Once again Mr. Thompson, you accuse any accredited dissenter of being paid off... by who? The evil underground legue of video games makers? The military? The FBI?
Anyways, Kierkegaard (for a moment I thought he was the existentialist) is not saying that your brain scans and studies never took place. He is commenting on their BIAS and questions their scientific validity.
I noticed this too, my intial reaction was "the philosopher?"
Quite frankly I am not impressed by either side of the argument, crime goes down when video game sales go up, its reminds me of now infamous research that stated that shark attacks went up when ice cream sales went up. Conversely I find it hard to believe that video games cause violent crime based on the evidence of statistics alone. In general I am uncomfortable with what is social science being touted as hard scientific facts.
remember kids, a correlation is not a causation.
I was waiting for someone to play the devils advocate, to some extent I agree, although I believe this is much more close than ice cream sales/shark attacks, I see your point, but THAT is just silly.
I still do believe that video games had to have had SOME effect, and I think its a large one, on youth violence declining, even if im playing the devils advocate game to the fullest extent, are there other factors? Of course, are video games neccasarily the cause of the decline? Maybe not, but at least it works to somewhat debunk the theory that they cause youth crime rates to rise.
Either way, its SOMETHING.
IMMEDIATE NEWS RELEASE – MAY 15, 2008 VIDEO GAME DEFENSE HELPS SAVE NORTH CAROLINA KILLER FROM DEATH PENALTY Today a North Carolina jury sentenced a 22-year-old murderer to life in prison rather than imposing the death penalty. http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=294067 Part of Stitt’s defense was his obsessive play of the Grand Theft Auto video games, and it was obviously persuasive. It was put before the jury in a very clever fashion, and it worked: http://news.spong.com/article/15391/Murderer_Tries_GTA_Mitigation_to_Avo... Miami attorney and anti-video game activist was on CBS’ 60 Minutes three years ago asserting that this particular game franchise, Grand Theft Auto, has figured in many other murders, including the deaths of three Alabama policemen. See this 60 Minutes story with Thompson at http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/04/60minutes/main678261.shtml Thompson was right then, and the sentence in North Carolina proves it. Increasingly, the criminal defense bar will be using the “video game defense” because of the video game industry’s aggressive and illicit marketing of adult games to minors. Contact Jack Thompson for more information at
there is a "report spam" link
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
All this post needs is a shameless plug of his book, and you've got the groundwork for virtually every Jack Thompson statement ever.
Also, I heard that 22 year old murderer also ate carrots and watched FOX news! Clearly they contributed to his murderous rampage!
The Fayetteville Observer link only says that the jury unanimously voted for Life in Prison. It doesn't say why. I think it's more likely the guy's history of mental problems. As for everything else in that release, way to inject yourself into something that has nothing to do with you. Stuff like that is why you're called a massacre chaser.
Incidentally, this also has nothing to do with the news article above. Couldn't you have at least posted this as a reply to the article that actually IS about the Stitt case? Interrupting a conversation with something that has nothing to do with the conversation is rude, online or off.
All it takes is one juror who thinks execution is immoral and stonewalling the rest, the others giving in just so they can go home, or to prevent them from having to repeat the whole process.
And stop using your own quotes as evidence jack, I might as well say you learned law from watching TV and had someone forge your degree and bar liscense and then 5 minutes later say:
2008, may 16, Iliad, self proclaimed master of the universe and all facts pertaining to anything commented that: "Jack thompson learned law from watching tv and had his law degree and bar liscense forged from a crackhead behind the 7-11" Game politics reports;
OH MY GOD IT HAS QUOTATONS AROUND IT NOW, THAT MEANS FACT, FFAAAACCCTTTT
This is pathetic. You even can´t give a reasonable context to the links you are posting. Every link you posted counters every one of you statements. Even in the first link doesn´t mention Grand Theft Auto was a factor on the sentence.
You have the comprenssion reading skills of a retarded child.
Not surprisingly, nothing in the articles you link to say anything about the video game argument being persuasive. That's just you making an assumption. In fact, here's a direct quote from the second article you linked to:
Dr Artigues (' the last witness Stitt’s lawyers put on the stand Tuesday in their bid to save him from execution') actually, "did not suggest that there was a connection between the video game and the murders".
I'd say the more likely scenario is that not everyone on the jury (it has to be unanimous) was comfortable putting a young man with severe childhood issues to death.
Andrew Eisen
Jack Thompson invented the "Video Games Made Me Do It" defence which gives criminals lesser sentences. He isn't in favor of protecting the innocent, he's in favor of protecting the criminals.
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
Thanks for giving killers a scapegoat. Especially one that DOESN'T WORK! Was it the game, or his fucked up childhood that saved his ass? But seriously, WELCOME BACK, JACK!!
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You know, Albert Einstein once said "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." He also said "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."
So Jack, welcome to insanity and stupidity as all your arguements are the same ones from 5 years ago, with all of the same lame attempts to prove them right with your own concocted 'evidence', misquoted statements, and outright lies.
As a teacher I had once told me, best to have someone proof read your work before you submit it, that way they can find the glaring problems with it. In your case, have 2 dozen people proof read it.
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Querstionable that is even JBT. Even if it is most here know that they can make the perfect arguement and jackie will act the child and have a tantrum and refuse to admit he was wrong. As pointless as trying to shout down the wind. Better I think to avoid the wind by go indoors.
Or in short. Dont feed the Troll.
As for the study itself. As noted many times, those that do not want to see it will not. Though even jackie should remember that all his "studies" ever supposedly proved was increased agression and agression is Not violence. We use agression to get a job or to compete in any event etc.
If violent crime was down which I would have thought jackie, Yee and the rest would like rather then rant against, then their would not basis for this BS. Cannot "save us" when we are not in danger.
I never did understand the concept of "Don't feed the troll" simply because it doesn't matter. Trolls will come with or without provoking them. The reason for this is they don't care. A person like JT, if it even is the real JT, will come with our without us, so might as well burn him down.
I just get this image of him slouched over a keyboard, drooling and snorting and just making these disgusting gutteral noises as he slaps his clawed, stiff hands over the key, just looking for anything, attempting, every hour to comment, every day as he scours Google like a hungry dog at partly-eaten carrion, just hoping he can get through his ban while talking in tongues to himself and the occassionally muttering of a intelligable words. "Naaaaa...evil games...prostitution...gay porn to Congress...phallic compensation...!" I should make a monster based off of him for D&D.
Who got fail all over Dennis' brand new site?!
Oh. Nevermind...
These are good arguements that we've spoken before, but now that it's labelled as "research".. hopefully it would get picked up on by someone else.
Now, if only we could get a MD or PhD attached to his name.
hey. does this not show up on the front page for anyone else here?
hey. does this not show up on the front page for anyone else here?
Hey Jack? I've been having some problems logging onto your website. Everytime I type in the URL,
http://www.jackandgoliath.com, I keep getting a "Coming Soon..." site that pops up. Is this the actual htttp://www.jackangoliath.com? If so, what does "Jack Black Skin Care" and "impotence" have to do with the issue at hand? I don't think you should be mixing personal issues with your (un)professional matters.
On a more serious note though; did you fail to read anything about James Stitt? Let's take a look at some quotes from the Fayetteville Observer shall we?
"Artigues said Stitt seems at times to live in a fantasy world and she wasn’t even sure that the version of the murders he described to her was the truth. He told a different story — in which Grand Theft Auto wasn’t mentioned — to his girlfriend, according to earlier testimony."
"Artigues testified that Stitt could be diagnosed with disrupted attachment disorder and childhood trauma disorder. People with these disorders have flawed development in parts of their brains, she said, which makes it hard for them to control their emotions, control their impulses or foresee the consequences of their actions."
Now Jack, I'm no psychiatrist, but these quotes make Stitt seem a couple cards short of a full deck, wouldn't you agree? It seems like you're really trying to grasp for straws here Jack. I'm surprised that you didn't try and help the poor guy out with his legal defense. Oh, sorry about that, I forgot that you can't represent anyone at the moment since you're already embroiled in a professional misconduct case against your good name. My bad.
Well Jack, it's almost summer time so I'd suggest laying down the vitriolic rhetoric and enjoying some beach time under the sun.I was looking at the WHOIS for that domain (http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=jackandgoliath....).
Can anyone verify that the email provided is actually Thompson's? If
so, Thompson might be funnier than I thought, or he is just sad and
pathetic, not sure which.
Yep, that's one of his older ones.
Andrew Eisen
Edit: Accidental double post. Please ignore.
Andrew Eisen
Y'know, there comes a point when you just have to have a certain amount of respect for a man who can stare at the sun and insist it's night time.
That doesn't change the fact he's a lying coward, why didn't he get pre-emptively banned in the new version? And did he need his son's help to bypass the spam blocker?
Y'know, there comes a point when you just have to have a certain amount of respect for a man who can stare at the sun and insist it's night time.
No I don't. A person like that either needs to be corrected and educated to be allowed into society or needs to be put away somewhere to protect society. Honestly would you join in the beliefs of a fool?
lying coward? i don't think so
deranged lunatic? most probable
Thats a good quote, mind if I use that?
One would think that a crusader against evil would have better things to do than abuse posters on a message board (especially ones that, by his own words, he believes to be children).
One would be wrong
I guess in that case, one could say that Jack also condones the mental molestation of minors as well as giving convicted murderers a break in sentencing because they play video games.
He admitted the latter and continues to prove the former.
This is a HUGE breakthrough! I never thought that all the hype might be bullshit!
-GRIZZAM PRIME(c)is property of the U.S. Marine Corp. Wetworks Dept., and also The Incredible Hulk-GRIZZAM PRIME is not to be associated with GRIZZAM 512 or any other GRIZZAM entity under penalty of law, so sayith ZARATHOS.
not if Dennis disables anonymous posting or sets up an IP ban
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
Jack, I like to ask you one question that would make my year. What is your response to the book "Grand Theft Childhood"
EDIT: Sorry for the double post, but I don't see a delete button.