According to a report on The Consumerist, Microsoft's Xbox Live has mandated that a gamer/customer of the online gaming venue change his GamerTag due to a gay reference contained in it. From the article:
Reader Grant says that his gamer tag "theGAYERgamer" was recently banned by Xbox Live. He hoped that a call to customer support would sort things out but all he received was a confusing explanation from an Xbox Live supervisor. According to the supervisor, it wasn't that she found the name offensive, but it was the "greater Xbox community" that found it offensive...
The Consumerist wonders why the Xbox community gets to decide, and whether the decision has homophobic overtones.
GP: Interestingly enough, we just logged onto XBL (GamerTag = GamePolitics) and noticed that the similar-sounding account "gaygamer" is active. We checked that one because of the well-known website of the same name. So it's unclear whether "theGAYERgamer" was singled out for some reason or if there is more to the story.




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Re: Report: Xbox Live Says GamerTag with Gay Reference is
As has been said, it seems the issue is not one of "homophobia" or of MS pushing any particular agenda but of them enforcing what would seem to be a quite legitimate rule regarding Gamertag names: that they not refer to anything sexual.
Now, I can't say whether they apply this principle effeciently and universally (clearly their system for banning those who abuse the voice-chat system is less tightly policed), but I for one see no problem with this. As a gamer, I play XBL and other online-games to get away from all the sexual, ideological, political and other heavy stuff that I have to deal with everyday.
I remember one day while playing City of Heroes I got grouped with a female avatar with a decidedly pro-choice name and theme who would, in addition to having a Battle Cry about a woman's right to choose. spend considerable time debating the finer points of Roe v. Wade with other party member. Understand, I have no problem with her position - I support it. But when I plug in the PC or console, I don't want to have to deal with all of that. I suspect - and hope - that a similar desire is behind MS's treatment of this Gamertag issue: they want to create a fun environment as far removed from contentious, real-world issues as possible.
What if the gamertag was...
TheSTRAIGHTERgamer. Is that a sexual gamertag? If so, would it be treated as such? If a person says they are straight or gay, IT'S NOT A FRIGGIN' COME ON! I can agree that I wouln't want some political preacher jamming their views down my throat, but if that's the problem, they need to say it, instead of parading this claim that it is a sexualy explicit tag.
-GRIZZAM PRIME(c)is property of the U.S. Marine Corp. Wetworks Dept., and also The Incredible Hulk-GRIZZAM PRIME is not to be associated with GRIZZAM 512 or any other GRIZZAM entity under penalty of law, so sayith ZARATHOS.
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Well "GayGamer" is still up, otherwise I'd think it was both sad and hilarious that they'd label gay people possibly making gay gamertags as offensive but not even bat an eye at the swarms of 14 year olds who continually bark "faggot" at each other while playing teh Haloz.
Damn kids!!!
Remember the "I WANT CHOCOLATE MILK!" kid? Seriously, the problem is that parents aren't teaching their kids not to be assholes. Now my ma instilled a sense of shame in me at an early age. If I acted like that, I'd be fucking embarrassed. Not to mention I'd not be playing my X-Box for quite a while. Damn kids.
(I know, I'm going crazy with these friggin' smiley faces...)
-GRIZZAM PRIME(c)is property of the U.S. Marine Corp. Wetworks Dept., and also The Incredible Hulk-GRIZZAM PRIME is not to be associated with GRIZZAM 512 or any other GRIZZAM entity under penalty of law, so sayith ZARATHOS.
Re: Report: Xbox Live Says GamerTag with Gay Reference is
His name was reported as having an offensive name. And to be clear, he was not banned from Live, he just has to change his gamertag, which they let you do free of charge if they demand you do so. MS is extrememly strict when it comes to gamertags that have been reported. For example, I had a friend whose gamertag contained the word "flaccid". That had a sexual enough connotation for them to force him to change it.
Since changing a GT usually costs $, we've reported people who wanted it changed enough that XBL forced them to change, free of charge.
IMO, nothing homophobic about it. MS is strict with all names that imply anything sexual, whether it be straight or gay. If you get reported enough, they are even more strict.
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That's not really cool on on Microsoft's part. But I can see how this might have happened.
Admittedly, most gamertags with the word "gay" thrown in there are most likely to be offensive and deogatory in some way. Still, I don't think this one should be banned.
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I personally think it's the use of the "er" in "gayer" that makes it more innappropriate. Saying "straightergamer" would probably be offensive to some gays afterall.
simply "gaygamer" is just stating that that gamer is gay. "gayergamer" has an undertone that suggests he's trying to offend someone.
Re: Report: Xbox Live Says GamerTag with Gay Reference is Unsuit
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First, there seems to be some confusion over what happened. He was not banned, he was made to change his gamertag before he could log back into XBL. (A service that usually costs 800 live points, BTW.) Microsoft doesn't monitor Silver and off-line GamerTags, they only enforce improper names for Gold Accounts that can play online. Meaning that this guy was playing games, online, with other people, most likely strangers, strangers that could be any age.
Everybody that is defending this seems to be stuck on the 'gay' aspect of the gamertag, (intentionally, it seems) ignoring the fact that it says GAY-ER. As in, more than. As in, more gay than potentially other gay gamers. The problem isn't that he is gay, because Microsoft doesn't care who you are as long as you're giving them money. (Heck, you could be a purple transexual and from the moon, and Microsoft wouldn't care as long as you paid for the gold subscription.) The problem is that the gamertag is BAIT. There is no innocent intention here, he clearly meant for the name to be provoking.
XBL is a lot like YouTube as far as GamerTags are concerned. Microsoft rarely monitors the names themselves except for a few key terms that they'll ocasionally search the database for. They're mostly dependant on community self regulation. The reason why he was made to change his title was more than likely because enough folks in the community filed a report on an inappropriate name. And just so everyone is clear, it takes A LOT of people complaining about your gamertag to have Microsoft intervene. Not just a single 12yo playing Halo3, or a small group of homophobe jerks playing Rainbow6.
Also, of all places to declare your sexual preference in life, your XBL gamertag is not the place to do so. What? You're going to pick up dudes on XBL? Srsly.
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"Everybody... ignoring the fact that it says GAY-ER. As in, more than. As in, more gay than potentially other gay gamers."
That's assuming quite a bit. It could just as easily be that that user wanted to be called "TheGayGamer", but that tag was already taken (or disallowed), and so that slight alteration was used.
Re: Report: Xbox Live Says GamerTag with Gay Reference is Unsuit
I'm sure MS doesn't like it either when this website makes references to their games. It's offensive to gay gamers!
www.gaygamer.net
Xbox Live Says GamerTag with Gay Reference is Unsuitable
By the greater Xbox Community, they mean that enough people used the XBL feedback tool to say that the persons username was offensive. If enough people claim it's offensive and there's a questionable word in the name MS will send them a notice asking them to change their handle.
In this case people theGAYERgamer played with complained. The guy with the gaygamer handle hasn't received the same complaints. Nothing to do with Microsoft being homophobic or not.
from what i previously read,
from what i previously read, when the guy called Xbox support, they didn't find it offensive, but enough people "complained" that they "had" to make him change it.
so if enough ignorant little shits on Halo don't like you, they can dictate policy.
Here are we -- and yonder yawns the universe.
Re: Report: Xbox Live Says GamerTag with Gay Reference is Unsuit
Re: Report: Xbox Live Says GamerTag with Gay Reference is Unsuit
I dunno...
Stupid double post
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Game systems are meant for
Re: Report: Xbox Live Says GamerTag with Gay Reference is Unsuit
@Monte
It is neither of those. The ToS on Xbox Live clearly say that there may be no sexual innuendo or sexual reference in your gamertag. So announcing yourself as "gay" is breaking the rules, plain and simple. You are also not allowed to announce that you are straight. Your sexual preference just has no place on a system designed for young children.
I do agree though, that kids (especially US kids) are incredibly racist and homphobic over the voice coms in games like COD4 and Halo3. But that is what voice banning is for ;)
-- mostly harmless
Re: Report: Xbox Live Says GamerTag with Gay Reference is Unsuit
This isn't Homophobia - it is a valid a violation of the TOS
Taken From Stephen Toulouse's Blog:
"We received a complaint on the Gamertag and determined that it did indeed contain sexual innuendo. Granted, there could be an argument that the text is not pejorative to homosexuality and should therefore be allowed. But there is no context to explain that. Gamertags are visible to everyone and it would be hard for me to defend to a parent of a young child who saw it that the name did not contain content of a sexual nature.
We do not take action based off the number of complaints, or how often people complain in a given day. Whether it's one complaint or 20, we will look at it the same way.
To answer the question another way, yes 'TheStraighterGamer' or 'TheHeterosexualgamer' would have gotten the same treatment and would have been found to be in violation and forced to be changed. We've actually done that to tags like that before. Racism, hate speech, bigotry, homophobia, all these things have no place on Xbox Live and are in violation of our Terms of Use and Code of Conduct."
As for why the GayerGamer was banned but GayGamer was not, I can only assume that no-one has complained about the"GayGamer" account. They will only ban you if they receive at least one complaint.
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Re: This isn't Homophobia - it is a valid a violation of the TOS
Re: This isn't Homophobia - it is a valid a violation of the TOS
It is not that it is derogatory, simply that it is a sexual reference. Positive or negative in its implication, it is not allowed.
EDIT: Just to explain further, I think that what he means when he says "pejorative to homosexuality" is that it could mean "happy" and not "homosexual". But since it means "homosexual" too, it must be changed. You wouldn't be allowed to have "ILovePussy" either, even if you were talking about your cat.
-- mostly harmless
Re: This isn't Homophobia - it is a valid a violation of the TOS
Re: This isn't Homophobia - it is a valid a violation of the TOS
Re: This isn't Homophobia - it is a valid a violation of the TOS
Re: This isn't Homophobia - it is a valid a violation of the TOS
Definitely :)
They work on the "must receive at least one complaint" basis. If they receive a complaint and there is absolutely any sexual innuendo - the user is forced to change their gamertag. It's not like its a big deal to choose a different name anyway...
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Re: Report: Xbox Live Says GamerTag with Gay Reference is Unsuit
Re: Report: Xbox Live Says GamerTag with Gay Reference is Unsuit
I think that's a bit of a misconception. The problem is, people remember the one asshat that yells out the "N word" constantly and calls everyone a "homo"...what they dont' remember, is the last 25 people they played with who didn't.
What the problem probably is here is that some people are just a little overzealous. When you see dozens of GamerTags with sexual references, racial slurs in them and god knows what else, can you blame them? If he got enough feedback from players about they name, they'll usually automatically ban it.
The fact that the other one is still up is just a coincidence. Perhaps he states clearly in his profile that he's actually gay or something, or perhaps he's already been through all this with XBL support and didn't see fit to make a news story about it...who knows.
Regardless though, it's not MS that banned the name, it's other players complaining. Yes, they fix it, but the fact that it got banned in the first place shouldn't reflect badly on the guys that run XBL.
Re: Report: Xbox Live Says GamerTag with Gay Reference is Unsuit
Nothing to do with XBL mate, thats the internet in general...fag! (JOKE)
Perhaps MS doesn't mind gay people as in men who have sex with men but they object to gayER people who act like rampant queer eye stereotypes?
Sorry about the repost.
I'm having some trouble running this page on my old 2005 Dell. Sorry, guys.
In response to the previous statement (Twin-Skies): that's because most XBL members (at least the ones that play Halo 3) have a southern drawl or are too young to drive (take from that what you will).
A problem, but not the worst I've seen...
Meh. I think it's just a misunderstanding, really. I mean, I don't think Microsoft is homophobic, it's just covering its bases in terms of what is deemed 'offensive'. Maybe if 'theGAYERgamer' changed some of his letters to numbers...?
But I digress. If he (or she) is unwilling to do this, then I can sympathize. Best of luck to him/her.
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