Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

May 16, 2008 -

"It's fun that can turn foul, in seconds..."

That's the intro from a video report by Roanoke's WSLS-10 which frets about bad language used by players during Xbox Live Halo 3 matches. Anchor John Carlin (left), who pulled his own son's XBL play into the story, says:

[We placed] a microphone in Tyler’s headset.  The conversation was x-rated from the first shot... In another clip, clearly a young child was among the players.  His language as bad as theirs... And the kids aren’t just hearing the bad talk—they’re speaking it.  Racial slurs and homophobic comments as well.

GP: Did we mention that May is sweeps month?


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Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

Many of you people put forward childish arguments.

The root cause of this problem is bad parenting; severely bad parenting. Lawyers and the fact the closer technology has brought us together globally the further apart we are becoming locally has a lot to do with it as well. I have lived in the same place for 5 years and I don't know any of my neighbours; granted I don't know many people on the internet either, but that has to do with the fact that most people suck rather than any severe character flaw of my own! Even so, the fact that I don't know any of my neighbours does not stop me from telling the neighborhood kids right from wrong, or telling them to be carefull if they are in danger.

When I was a kid and someone in the neighborhood saw me up to no good or possible putting myself at risk they would tell me to stop it. Try telling a kid to stop doing something bad these days and your met with threats of legal action. It's so bad that teachers are afraid to discipline kids. Somehow between the time I turned 21 and now I am near forty, kids got rights. I had no discernbable rights as a child living under my parents roof and I see no bloody good reason for any of the brats today to have them either!

Seriously, we have to start giving a crap about one another a little more, I'm not talking about neglecting to keep score at little league games though I do believe that an extreme competitive nature does breed a severe lack of empathy towards people. It is how you play the game.

I've noticed in life it is better to lead by example. As independent as kids think they are today they are little more than "monkey see-do". If they are cussing up a storm it's because those in 'positions of authority' are doing it and no one is explaining to them, rationally and CALMLY, that this is wrong. I bet that most of the 'elders' on Live encourage the behaviour while chuckling out bong hits.

And as some have pointed out anonymity=a$$h0l3

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

This story is ALMOST as bad as the half investigated story I saw from FOX 9 in Minneapolis about a kid that brought his PSP to school (when they were still $250 a piece) and jacked into an unsecured and unfiltered WiFi AT the school and surfed the web for porn for him and his friends. The news story called it the "PlayStation Pornable." To summarize what was left out of the story is that there was NO investigation done to find out WHY the SCHOOL left a WiFi connection OPEN and UNFILTERED or why the PARENTS let their child bring a $250 videogame system to school. I wonder what the conversation was like in the newsroom, "Let's focus the story on just the system's capabilities and NOT the failings of the people responsible! That's a great idea!!!"

Oh yeah, and the story was done during sweeps. However, this is not the first time I've seen these "professional, unbiased journalists" (more like "sensationalists with agendas") skew a story for ratings over at FOX 9. Oh yeah, after the story got around the gaming circles, they pulled down the story from thier website and apologised. Although I think you can still read their gem of a write up on a cashe site somewhere.

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

if they think this is bad, lets hope they stay away from Counter-Strike

they do have a point...the language from the Halo community is a bit over-the-top, and they're well known for being immature. but its nothing to worry about if you mute the incoming sound.

This just in...

There's porn on the internet, the sky is blue, the Earth is round.... etc.

I didn't want to be among the posters who only make sarcastic comebacks, but i'm at a loss of a logical explaination for this one.

Maybe gamers are just a little bit too sarcastic?

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

Perhaps the newspaper should publish all of the letters they get and let us know how it turns out.

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

does anyone have a link to the video

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

<sarcasm> Oh no!  How dare videogames allow foul-mouthed people who curse at sports and their families to carry over their everyday offensive language to Internet competition!  What could be worse than videogames permitting children whose parents haven't effectively conditioned them to avoid nasty language to speak the way they would irl?

We're going to have to do something to squash these freedoms of expression that allow the people of the United States to abuse language in every aspect of their daily lives, and the easiest fix is to destroy the freedoms on the Internet and in videogames rather than teaching respect.  Because the American people just might be smart enough to see the illegality of using law to enforce the teaching of respect in homes, but we believe they're still stupid enough to vote against freedom of expression in other forms. </sarcasm>

Why is this more important than working to repair the economy, the public perception of the U.S., the failure to provide for our returned soldiers, and the handling of everything from the mistreatment of poor disaster sufferers to the Constitution?  Oh, right, those problems are hard to fix and all they need to garner votes is some stupid buzzword issues like protecting the children.

 

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

OMG, you mean kids actually swear! It's obvious these people have never been on a elementary school playground during recess. Personally i don't find swearing that big of a deal unless it's done recklessly and excessively (which i will admit happens alot in online play).

When i was a young kid me and my friends used cure words alot amoungst ourselves but we knew when to use them and when not to (not in front of parents or other adults). Also it's not just kids who swear online in video games, in many cases it's adults (those in their 20s and 30s) who are swearing excessively, and using racial/homophobic slurs. It not like someone suddenly and miraculously becomes mature the minute they reach some arbitrary age limit, and stops excessively swearing/useing homophobic/racist slurs when playing online.

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

OMFG really? no seriously...really? This is news? I remember this happening with Halo 1 and Mechwarrior on the Xbox. And to further my point is this little Gem:

http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20060821

 

^_^

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

I-Love-That-Comic.

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It's okay to kill stuff, as long as nobody says a bad word.

It's funny that he's fine with his kid playing a game in which the main gameplay element is shooting space aliens, but God forbid there be the uttering of a single word which on it's own doesn't even express an idea. If he saw a pixilated nipple...oh God...his head would explode.

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Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Uh.....

SHITFUCKPISSFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK. If that dosent give him a heart attack, i don't know what will.

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

I guess his reaction when he heard those things was probably like this:  ZOMGBBQ, CUSSING ON XBL AND ON A M-RATED GAME?!  In my opinion this guy apparently has been living under a rock from day one.  I pretty much don't care for the 360, but this little puff piece on gaming has been too little too late. 

Every time you cuss, a demon stabs a baby's eardrum

Now, while I aknowledge that it sucks too be around assholes, if your kid is so effing sensitive that he/she freaks out at the slightest F-bomb, well that is a little much. Me, I learned how to cuss properly at an early age, so I never ran into those kinds of problems. Mother f*ckers. -GRIZZAM PRIME(c)is property of the U.S. Marine Corp. Wetworks Dept., and also The Incredible Hulk-GRIZZAM PRIME is not to be associated with GRIZZAM 512 or any other GRIZZAM entity under penalty of law, so sayith ZARATHOS.

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

 Also, digg it.

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

 I invite you to examine John Gabriel's fine theory on the matter.

This really isn't a new

This really isn't a new thing by any stretch of the imagination, back when I played counterstrike and Team fortress classic a great deal of the chat was racist homophobic and profane, it was just text instead of a voice.

@ frost

From the xbox site "and the Underground zone, where anything goes (and where Family zone gamers probably don't want to go, if you catch my drift)." So that is really to be expected if your playing someone who has underground tagged in their profile

Re: This really isn't a new

Oh, I pretty much got that. I'm just woundering if anyone else noticed the same trend. You see, for me, it's gotten to the point where this has happened so frequently that I now stereotype all gamers in the Underground Zone has a bunch of hooting, tea-bagging assholes unless they prove otherwise. And don't get me wrong, I not directing this at Undergrounders as a whole, because I've seen some gamers in the Recreation, Pro, and even Family zones do this crap as well. I'm just pointing out that (for me at least) the majority of gamers who act immature are Undergrounders.

 

But yes, I agree, this issue of trash talking kids is really nothing new and the fact that it took anchor John Carlin this long to come across this is just plain stupid. Theres is nothing else I can say about it that hasn't already posted here. And as I type this, I realize how obvious the topic I posted is. I was just woundering if any else noticed, and not just me.

Re: This really isn't a new

Oddly I tend to see it a bit more in the Pro zone, underground can be just as bad but at least in my experience the pro zone guys are the ones that are assumed to be assholes until proven otherwise. But yeah I find it the most there, although I have heard some really creative people from the family zone. I think at least part of it comes from the idea that putting undergound in your profile makes you "cool" and you need to constantly reinforce that. Back when I had live I was set to underground msotly because I tend toward really weird games, so I thought it was the best decriptor.

It's just weird to me that so many people can be shocked by this, I mean your in an enviroment where you are protected if you act like a total jerk and you don't have to worry about real life consequences. It's remarkable what people will say when they don't have to say it to your face.

Also reading this reminded me I need to get live again.

The Underground

I'm not sure if this applies to anyone else here, but for me, I noticed that the majority of trash talkers and Tea-baggers I get (especialy on Halo) all seem to be in the Underground game room. Does anyone else get that as well?

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

*GASP!*

People can swear at other people?!

HOW CAN THIS BE?!

We must stop it! For the sake of the CHILDREN!

Why it sucks:

It's not that they curse, it's that they direct it at people just to be assholes, knowing that nobody's gonna bust their fucking asses.

 

-GRIZZAM PRIME(c)is property of the U.S. Marine Corp. Wetworks Dept., and also The Incredible Hulk-GRIZZAM PRIME is not to be associated with GRIZZAM 512 or any other GRIZZAM entity under penalty of law, so sayith ZARATHOS.

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Why it sucks:

I think you just found the root problem. Makes me kinda sympatheise for the Comcast guy.

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Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

My solution to all the snot nosed brats who insist on swearing, tweaking the mic, or using racial slurs is silence, followed by my friends on the other team or myself team killing the twit the entire match until they drop out.

It's been quite successful so far.

I must say that XBL has more trouble because they don't have enough admins watching the matches.  All they'd need to do is monitor the lobby sections in Halo 3 matches and they could put the ban hammer in overdrive.

Hell, here's a solution I just thought of.  Don't ban these guys or cancel their accounts.  Just flag them as retarded and let them only play with everyone else who's flagged as retarded.

Problem solved.

-Loudspeaker
"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

Like cursing is anything new.  People swear all the time, perhaps more when relaxing to get the stress out of their systems but really, how long did it take them to realize that there is tons of swearing on XBL?

Huh?*

Huh?People curse while playing violent games?Why don't you people tell me these things!?

I rarely curse while gaming,or while I'm with friends.If I do,I'll usually put a star over a letter or two.

 

What decade is this dude living in,1860?

Re: Huh?*

People curse while playing violent games?

Well, I've cursed while playing non-M rated games...  Mostly due to the BS the companies threw in and their stupid design faults(i.e. RPGs where I suddenly can't save here at the end, I get "several" boss fights in a row with no decent save points, cut-scenes WHICH BY NOW SHOULD ALWAYS BE SKIPPED BY THE RARELY USED NOR MISTAKENLY HIT SELECT BUTTON & SUCH SKIP OPTION SHOULD BY NOW BE MANDATORY IN ALL GAMES!!!!!, etc).

Of course it is mostly to my self, in my head.  And the company responsible for most of that frustration is the same one always being billed as "kids friendly..."

GP comment system related PS: Glad you made the captcha more readable, the dinky letters/numbers version was horrible.

It Shows You Something....

People who cuss on XBL are pretty much showing their true colors. It shows what the majority of adults and kids are like. It's not Mircosoft's fault, it's the fault of people who do not evolve from the minds of stupid barbarians.

Re: It Shows You Something....

Generally I think of people who swear a lot to be of low intelligence, or maybe just not creative enough or good at putting words together without relying on vulgar language.


 

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

Oh Gods! Children use bad words!
Well I never...

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Okay, I did, but only that once...

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Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

I've watched my husband play COD4, and people on there swear up a storm regardless of who it is, why should this shock people? My husband -- who plays under the name "A Buttmuncher," sometimes forgets that he's not playing with all adults when he chats with people on there. One guy asked how he could get into a particular group, and my husband made some off-color suggestion, whereas the person asked him what it meant. (That was when he realized that he was talking to a kid) He had another gamer in the game laughing so hard he had to hide somewhere in the game so he wouldn't be taken advantage of.

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

Clearly this is to be blamed on Halo 3. Because, I mean kids aren't vulgar in public, just when playing games...

-"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

And People complain that the Wii has no voice chat support. I am glad to not have to listen to this kind of trash.

E. Zachary Knight
www.editorialgames.com

 

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

I hear you on that...

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Papa Midnight

Stereotype much?

"drinks like an irish dockworker"

The Irish drink a lot because they can. We have a superhuman hereditary tolerance. If you meet a self-proclaimed Irishman who is obviously drunk, most likely it's really a Bostonian.

Re: Stereotype much?

 Are you kidding me?

 

a superhuman hereditary tolerance?

 

more like a genetic disposition to to be worthless potato fuckers.

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

Anybody knows people swear on XBox Live. Hasn't changed since it started with the original XBox.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=xbox+live+swears&search_type

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

If they think the people on Halo 3 talk poorly, have they tried playing GTA IV?  It's a thousand times worse.  I'm not concerned with the swearing, as I am guilty of it as well, but the slurs are a bit much.  I've reported people on multiple occasions for it, and will continue to do so.  I'm not going to let a few asshats ruin my gaming experience.

It's also why I usually go into a private chat with a friend if they're on.


Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

nothing to be surprissed...

*points to the angry video game nerd*

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

This is not new or news in that matter. You can easily go into the system and turn off the chatter from other players becuase most of them are doing this just to get a reaction out of the other players. There are more offensive things coming out of Fox News then Xbox Live lets go after them and not the gamers.

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

MORAL PANIC
*clap, clap, clap-clap-clap*
MORAL PANIC
*clap, clap, clap-clap-clap*
MORAL PANIC
*clap, clap, clap-clap-clap*

Go sweeps month! Get those ratings, seed that fear!

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

It's not the frequent swearing that gets me in these online games. It's swearing that comes from someone's voice that hasn't dropped yet.
And either way, I've seen far more offensive comments on YouTube.

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

Definetly agree, swearing? Not an issue, my mother swears and drinks like an irish dockworker, but GODDAMN those little pre-pubescent voices are like a thousand flaming nails on a thousand screaming chalkboards.

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

I work in a school (6-8).  Kids' mouths are just as foul in the hallways here as anything on XBL.

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

I hate to say it, but this is no revelation. Been like this since the days when you had to type in order to chat.

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...

There just discovering this now?

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

God damn I do hate sweeps.  I've theorized before that if you were to take all the crap stories aired during sweeps, and force a sane, rational person to watch them all back to back Clockwork Orange style that their will, in fact, implode.


If they think cursing in Halo 3 is bad, try playing a game of Uno in the middle of the day when you call off sick.  I ended up in a game with a bunch of bored housewives gossiping and talking, mostly, about breast feeding.  It was such an odd conversation.

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

I just tell any kid I hear on COD4 That I have a policy of not talking to anyone whose balls haven't dropped yet. That usually shuts them up and gets cheers from everyone else for shutting them up. All else fails? Mute.

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

are you kidding me? are they trying to blame language use on video games?? how stupid are these people, thats like blaming AT&T for someone swearing over the phone, god theres some stupid people out there

i am so glad i live in Canada

Re: Sweeps Month: TV News Shocked by Cussing on Xbox Live

Canada is just as bad, if not worse.. as much controversy as their is in america about this stuff, they havent actually been succesfull in passing any legislation, so its safe to say we still have it great compared to pretty much any other country, especially europe/middle east and some parts of asia.

Also australia/new zealand.

 

 
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